Real-Scale Starcraft: Mass Recall - 01

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Жыл бұрын

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@eclairtleqaq4758
@eclairtleqaq4758 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I’m going to try to give some developer comment here. So Real-Scale Mass Recall. This is part of the Real-Scale 2.0 series, and all extra options in Real Scale 2.0, such as different scaling options, kill/death counters, unlocking extra units and all units, are also available here. I have also done QoL adjustments to the base MR campaigns, such as fixing the hotkey conflicts in base MR. I also made almost all cutscenes skippable. Cutscenes were not skippable by default because it actually takes work sometimes to make them skippable and clean up correctly. As such cutscene skips might still have bugs that need to be discovered. One big change I did was to drastically nerf Mass Recall’s difficulty. You always start with more and better stuff than in the original campaign, and the AIs could actually run out of money. Many missions have already been tested in brutal. They are still a bit harder than base sc2’s brutal difficulty, but definitely not as hard as original MR. Now to the specific things in this video. First you might notice that in mission 2, Raynor’s survival had become a bonus objective. Basically, in most missions if the heroes aren’t needed for the objective, you are allowed to lose them and continue the mission. In mission 3, I made the player start with a factory and spider mines researched to encourage the use of vulture. I also tweaked the vulture’s weapons to fire before turning to making them great kiting units like in SC1. The spider mine and sunken colonies display bonus damage vs Capital Ships, because they deal “explosive” damage. Since there was only 3 different damage types in Starcraft 1, I decided to make them consistent so that all explosive damage is doubled against capital ships. Essentially things like spider mines, sunken colonies, and siege tanks display bonus damage against capitals just for consistency, they do not actually fight capital ships. (By the way, the famous problem of corsair dealing low damage against mutas was not because of armor calculations, but because tag-based damage reduction stacked additively with splash runoff. This meant Corsair’s splash doing 50% of main target’s damage combined with small units taking 50% less damage resulted in -100% damage, meaning the splash damage always dealt a minimum damage of 0.5 to mutas regardless of armor. Base MR did try to make explosive damage the same way as SC1, but it was actually pretty tricky with splash and it seemed the MR team never really figured it out.)
@avitraangelica9278
@avitraangelica9278 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your awesome work! This is gonna be SUPER fun to watch and eventually play! ^v^ Changes here all seem smart amd well executed, which is already fantastic. Can't wait to hear about more on the later missions! ^v^
@fritslec1277
@fritslec1277 Жыл бұрын
Not a player, just a grant video enjoyer, but just wanted to thank you for continuing the real-scale legacy and the beloved work of people's favorite modders! I look forward to seeing your work in the coming grant videos :)
@JimRaynorRaider
@JimRaynorRaider Жыл бұрын
Plz tell me this will be added to base MR as a QoL mod? This fixes a lot of things with MR and it be a shame it be lock behind a mod
@drakewarrior1013
@drakewarrior1013 Жыл бұрын
​@@JimRaynorRaidersecond this. I would install your mod just to play "original" mass recall with your improvements, if you can disable the actual "real scale" stuff.
@michaelbarnard8529
@michaelbarnard8529 Жыл бұрын
So, why is the max range fore marines all of fifty feet? How is that “real scale”?
@PeterZaitcev
@PeterZaitcev Жыл бұрын
I've noticed one interesting but very important detail - instead of "Raynor must survive" main objective, you have "Keep Raynor in the Frontline" bonus one.
@GiantGrantGamesArchives
@GiantGrantGamesArchives Жыл бұрын
Great catch! Love to see it!
@Qchaos.
@Qchaos. Жыл бұрын
What can we say, he is a man of action
@MrRulet550
@MrRulet550 Жыл бұрын
It sounds less gamey like "Raynor can respawn" but also less punishing of "Raynor must survive"
@SoloNit
@SoloNit Жыл бұрын
@@Qchaos.Sounds like a plan. Time to man up !
@SoloNit
@SoloNit Жыл бұрын
We Death Korp of Kriegs now bois, shoot your commander if they aren't within 500ft of the frontline for COWARDICE !
@Mistersheeaun
@Mistersheeaun Жыл бұрын
Me seeing the title of the video in the notification: "YES THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!"
@MrDARKJAK
@MrDARKJAK Жыл бұрын
Legit my response “WHAT?! HELL YEA LETS GO!!”
@cjayhay
@cjayhay Жыл бұрын
17:57 - Grant's relationship with Starcraft begins to move in an entirely new direction
@svr7823
@svr7823 Жыл бұрын
It's me playing Devil May Cry 5
@eyeballpapercut4400
@eyeballpapercut4400 Жыл бұрын
Such collision courses
@Minithell
@Minithell Жыл бұрын
That was very sexually charged.
@HMSPrinceofWales
@HMSPrinceofWales Жыл бұрын
I liked the random combination of Grant: "I have an issue where", Firebat: "My Goose is getting cooked" into the Ultra appearing.
@roshango125ab
@roshango125ab Жыл бұрын
If that's what the base UltraIisk does, I'm scared to see what the torrasque does in "To Chain the Beast" in real scale. You won't have a whole cargo ship full of whoop ass, you'll be getting a full fleet
@HipomosJ
@HipomosJ Жыл бұрын
that plus 3 armor upgrade and 3 attack upgrade, an absolute beast
@JimRaynorRaider
@JimRaynorRaider Жыл бұрын
Look how the ultra does splash damage, torrasque gonna 1 shot groups of marines/firebats/medics and it's gonna be wonderful
@slorty4494
@slorty4494 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see Mengsk's battle cruiser fleet in that one mission.
@The-jy3yq
@The-jy3yq Жыл бұрын
Ok, ok, hear me out. _Nukes._
@petrowegynyolc7108
@petrowegynyolc7108 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, sheepyards are cool, but... Siege of Korhal opening in any scenario. That oughtta be EPIC.
@Neyuun
@Neyuun Жыл бұрын
12:50 Wow, it's WoL Real Scale all over again. Grant has a decently big army and pokes at the zerg, runs into his first ultralisk which proceeds to eat half his army and then gets swarmed by the rest of the zerg defenses and loses almost everything else. Also, if you want to really break your habit of moving your mouse to the edge of the screen to look around, you can just disable "mouse scroll" in options under "mouse and keyboard".
@Kai-K
@Kai-K Жыл бұрын
"If you are interested in more real scale mass recall, say so" SO SO SO
@elbro3667
@elbro3667 Жыл бұрын
Me: "Finally trying Mass Recall" Grant: Welcome to Real Scale Mass Recalll He´s always one step ahead of me, darn
@Taldaris
@Taldaris Жыл бұрын
Knowing how brutal Mass Recall can be, this actually might be scary, and cool! (Can't wait to see Eye of the storm)
@lonesometomb773
@lonesometomb773 Жыл бұрын
i was wanting to rewatch the mass recall series, but now this is coming out.
@abaddonarts1129
@abaddonarts1129 Жыл бұрын
I'm genuinely so excited to see this, it's going to be so intimidating in the later story when high tech units show up at large scale looking like SC1 models. Insanely cool stuff. (Also I love how readable Mass Recall is, because the SC2 scaling and movement looks so much better than the lower visual quality of the original)
@kampa7671
@kampa7671 Жыл бұрын
The only issue is that the lightning really interferes with readability. Sometimes it's really hard to tell what's actuall happening on screen, it's just too dark.
@Luckysquirrel1256
@Luckysquirrel1256 Жыл бұрын
That Ultra was actually scary at that size. Also hope you give Winter Assault another try, or at least the Good Campaign.
@artemis_fowl44hd92
@artemis_fowl44hd92 Жыл бұрын
Grant, a great tip to unlearn edge panning is that you can deactivate it in the options. Afterwards, when you get forced to use the middle mouse, it's just a matter of playing a few customs to make your brain get used to it.
@RoyalCommando1996
@RoyalCommando1996 Жыл бұрын
Hey Grant, Please take a secound to place your Spidermines with intention. They deal friendly fire and like the 3rd spider mine blew 20 others streight to hell. Interesting in the series btw.❤
@inductivegrunt94
@inductivegrunt94 Жыл бұрын
2:20: Great job, Grant, perfect Spider mine placement. 5:10 And just like that, Infested Terran got even more terrifying. 12:53 My goodness that is so freaking terrifying! Yeah, love this mod already. I seriously can't wait for air units to come in, especially Battlecruisers and Carriers. Those are gonna be massive.
@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin
@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin Жыл бұрын
Yo, this is awesome! Can't wait to see how they handle SC1 big boys like capital ships and ultras in those classic SC1 corridors and canyons.
@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin
@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin Жыл бұрын
That ultra on the bridge gives a great indicator, spooky big boys! O.O
@jika327
@jika327 Жыл бұрын
I know that the damage values are going to be different from their vanilla counterparts but I still hope that the mod makers fix the math error in Mass Recall's upgrades. In SC1 explosive damage deals 100% to large, 75% to medium and 50% to small. However, weapon upgrades give a fixed increase against all unit types, so +1 damage is one extra point of damage instead of MR's +1/+0.75/0.5 damage, Similar thing goes for concussive damage (firebat, vulture and ghost) though it's 100% to small, 50% to medium and 25% to large.
@garret4075
@garret4075 Жыл бұрын
All I can think of is the Dylarian Shipyards…
@sindrisuncatcher653
@sindrisuncatcher653 Жыл бұрын
This is a thing of beauty. Eclairtle is my hero.
@T.F.BlackStar
@T.F.BlackStar Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the Science Vessel.
@bass-dc9175
@bass-dc9175 Жыл бұрын
Also remember: The terran fleet in SC1 uses the Behemoth Class Battlecruiser (as opposed to the minotaur class ones in SC2). And they are bigger. The hyperion is a Behemoth Class Battlecruiser.
@T.F.BlackStar
@T.F.BlackStar Жыл бұрын
*This is where the fun begins.*
@sssddd4812
@sssddd4812 Жыл бұрын
@@bass-dc9175What about the Overmind? Wouldn’t he just be a giant, capital ship sized building in the middle of the map?
@thundersoul6795
@thundersoul6795 Жыл бұрын
@@sssddd4812 "Real scale" doesn't do real scale buildings because you can't do real scale maps. Kinda amusing how StarCraft 2 isn't built to even have the possibility of full real scale so it looks like a boxing match in a sandbox. Kinda sad that nobody finds this whole "real scale" thing worth the effort of bothering to use SupCom, the game built with real scale as the point, as a base.
@The-jy3yq
@The-jy3yq Жыл бұрын
@@sssddd4812 Overmind is, like, Mothership-sized No, chief, they ain't reworking Eye of the Storm to be Eye of the Swarm
@zapdragon23
@zapdragon23 Жыл бұрын
I was afraid something like this wouldn't happen, glad to see sc geetting the real scale treatment
@LoneWolf-kw3ol
@LoneWolf-kw3ol Жыл бұрын
through this whole video youve got this silly grin on your face, like this is bringing out the kid who became hooked on the og Starcraft and i love it. I cant wait to have all 3 campaigns in the SC2 engine with real scale, what a time to be alive
@jarrakul
@jarrakul Жыл бұрын
Grant just casually mentioning he hangs out with Scarlett. :P I mean it was probably an RTS consulting thing but still.
@lazarusfitness3892
@lazarusfitness3892 Жыл бұрын
I am not sure what the economic cost would be or if the modders you employ would be willing... but have you considered employing a good amount of them to actually make a true polished Complete SC1 campaign in the Starcraft 2 engine? That actually is balanced and high quality and even get the two-three player coop treatment? SC1 on your channel is truly an untapped resource. I binge anything you put out SC1 related. Would love to see SC1 get a mod treatment it truly deserves as well as provide a huge amount of content to your channel. That is multiple new massive series between a polished version and potential coop playthroughs with Jay or Ace. While Mass Recall has been a breath of fresh air in terms of just being able to have it.... we really need a true version to do it justice...
@BladeWinters
@BladeWinters Жыл бұрын
Wow, that's awesome, someone actually made a mass recall mod, mod within a mod, mod-ception
@whatguy05
@whatguy05 Жыл бұрын
This is what I suggested so long ago when you did your playthrough of regular mass recall! So glad to finally see it!
@kylebutler9865
@kylebutler9865 Жыл бұрын
This series is fascinating! I never played mass recall, but your series was really fun. A revamp seems awesome!
@Lumberjane37
@Lumberjane37 Жыл бұрын
I’m really excited to see more of this series!! Thank you for doing what you do by the way ^-^
@AaronJonMorgan
@AaronJonMorgan Жыл бұрын
I haven't even watched this and already know this will be the greatest thing. Thank you so much for making it
@ernestoiparraguirre2745
@ernestoiparraguirre2745 Жыл бұрын
You know, something I would like is a SC Original and Brood War story campaings but with modified missions and bonus objectives, so it works more like SC2. Samples to get zerg and protoss tech for research, credits for completing objectives and upgrades to buy, things like that
@AstreaHTT
@AstreaHTT Жыл бұрын
It will be cool to see the changes that has UEDAIP in this Mod of Mass Recall
@durgun8247
@durgun8247 Жыл бұрын
petition to call this Starcraft: Mass Real-Scale
@vaderdudenator1
@vaderdudenator1 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking how awesome this would be but assumed it was too obscure to happen. Im hype!!
@sangy80
@sangy80 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see more of this, it seems pretty fun
@JimboMcBrostein
@JimboMcBrostein Жыл бұрын
Excited for Starcraft 2 Real Scale Azeroth Reborn Mass Recall Footmen Only Deathless!
@sturm9087
@sturm9087 11 ай бұрын
Didn’t expect a halo joke but I appreciate the “this is not a natural cave formation” reference
@zumzum1401
@zumzum1401 Жыл бұрын
Yoooothey actually made Real Scale Mass recall. They kept saying it would be a bunch of work and denying it would ever happen... They played us like fiddles and its gonna be good I bet.
@alamei
@alamei Жыл бұрын
Seeing this video come out last night was a very welcome surprise! I'm incredibly excited to see what real-scale has in store for SC1 after all the joys it brought to the SC2 campaigns.
@chrinschbro
@chrinschbro Жыл бұрын
This will be SO interesting and amazing I cannot wait to see how it goes
@marcuspearson814
@marcuspearson814 Жыл бұрын
This is going to be great!
@memkoz
@memkoz Жыл бұрын
This series is so much fun!
@Templarfreak
@Templarfreak 11 ай бұрын
something that you should also learn is setting camera locations. this is something i still dont even do, but it genuinely can massively improve your play. most of the time you set them to base locations. its not as huge in SC2 as it is in SC1 because you can select more than 1 building and add them to a hotkey, but it's still important for things like larva injects and being able to quickly jump around the entire map without having to click on the minimap
@lanteanboy
@lanteanboy Жыл бұрын
I feel like the spider-mine's "Capital Ship damage" is because some ground units in Starcraft 1 were BEEG and have thus been classified using the Capital Ship system..... although honestly, outside of the Reaver, I'm not sure what else would count....
@odyssey958
@odyssey958 Жыл бұрын
It's cool to see Mass Recall and Real-Scale meet. For added authenticity, you should limit yourself to only commanding 12 units at a time!
@Nurk0m0rath
@Nurk0m0rath Жыл бұрын
That sounds horrible. Completely, utterly unplayable.
@sssddd4812
@sssddd4812 Жыл бұрын
Y E S M O R E R E A L S C A L E
@JohnFinney1
@JohnFinney1 Жыл бұрын
You guys are so nuts!! Love your work!!
@JustWood5555
@JustWood5555 Жыл бұрын
This is such a good idea can't wait for this to be available to play
@Sperber90
@Sperber90 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing us this new mod. I would love to see more of it. Have a wonderful time
@ZergrushEddie
@ZergrushEddie Жыл бұрын
This video makes me so very happy. Thank you :)
@MarKreationsStudios
@MarKreationsStudios Жыл бұрын
2:52 Dont think we didn't see you peeking at us like that Adjutant 😂
@conorhopper
@conorhopper Жыл бұрын
Yes, please! More of this! I love seeing mods to modded games!
@rocket_hops
@rocket_hops Жыл бұрын
middle mouse panning is SO good, it feels way better too
@Mike-42069
@Mike-42069 Жыл бұрын
This looks so fun. I cant wait to be able to play this!!!
@singlenator9138
@singlenator9138 Жыл бұрын
Very excited about this, I’ve been thinking that Mass Recall was untapped opportunity. My fingers have been crossed for some race swapped mass recall campaigns!
@HeathenSWolf
@HeathenSWolf Жыл бұрын
7:39 It was at this moment I noticed the Adjutant peeking from behind Grant. It scared the hell out of me.
@coltonniese1702
@coltonniese1702 Жыл бұрын
This series is gonna be great!
@Butcher-Psychologist
@Butcher-Psychologist Жыл бұрын
This is great! I hope the entire SC franchise can become real scale.
@sonataoftheeclipse
@sonataoftheeclipse Жыл бұрын
Definitely interested in seeing more of this!
@ArcangelBarchiel
@ArcangelBarchiel Жыл бұрын
Yessss! I was hoping for this one since the first Real Scale mod!!
@TheSquizzlet
@TheSquizzlet 3 ай бұрын
I always played WC3 in a window with the top bar and task bar visible, which made edge panning unviable on the top and bottom direction, so I learned to middle mouse pan. When Dota 2 was still in beta I played and always used it, and would comment any time I spectated someone who I could see was also doing it. It's nice to see it get some love!
@JackpotJohnno
@JackpotJohnno Жыл бұрын
I was quietly excited and anticipating this
@fritslec1277
@fritslec1277 Жыл бұрын
I'm super excited to watch this series, thank you for the quality entertainment as always Grant! Hope you're taking care of yourself too. Really interested in real scale mass recall and i hope you manage to play as much of it as the modder can make for it! Also, i know it's 10 centuries too early, but can i already cast my vote for disabling zerg responses for the zerg campaigns, because i'm fine with them being disabled and they're loud
@quatzecoatl1795
@quatzecoatl1795 Жыл бұрын
Always happy for more real scale!
@zealot2222
@zealot2222 Жыл бұрын
YES. OH MY GOD I'VE SO BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
@goodisgood153
@goodisgood153 Жыл бұрын
Oh fuck this series is gonna be good ! broodwar campaign with mass recall is gonna be fun
@raulherrera83
@raulherrera83 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the next video! It’s great to se Grant so happy!
@ahuman7027
@ahuman7027 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Looking forward to that serie!
@Thyranel
@Thyranel Жыл бұрын
It looks awesome :D
@meander112
@meander112 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome!
@rytan4516
@rytan4516 Жыл бұрын
In regards to the middle mouse button thing: I actually used to only use edge-panning or the minimap to move my screen, until relatively recently. But, because middle mouse button is so intuitive, even without me trying to, it ended up becoming the primary way I move my screen around in many RTSes. I'm pretty sure you'll mostly switch over in like a week.
@GaryFromLiberty
@GaryFromLiberty Жыл бұрын
This is incredibly cool, I can't wait to play it!
@omenifighter
@omenifighter Жыл бұрын
Thank you for upgrading to 4k! So detailed :D
@BlazingGlaceon
@BlazingGlaceon Жыл бұрын
Oh, here's something I never thought would happen. Cool! I bet Episode 3 is gonna be one hell of a ride lol, not to mention New Gettysburg and.. I forget Ep1 mission 10's name, but that one.
@tarkdraan310
@tarkdraan310 Жыл бұрын
Real scale mass recall? Oh grant you bring us the greatest gifts
@MalevolentSpirit234
@MalevolentSpirit234 Жыл бұрын
This sounds like a blast
@TheArbieo
@TheArbieo Жыл бұрын
This is going to be great. Im so excited to see what they did with the BC attack. Is it gonna be like a tank spash? Or will it continue to be hilariously bad at killing marines.
@edeneini839
@edeneini839 Жыл бұрын
WHATTTT this is really a thing? awesome!
@calebstearns5571
@calebstearns5571 Жыл бұрын
Im excited for this going live to the public.
@VokunRuGrohiik
@VokunRuGrohiik Жыл бұрын
This looks amazing and would like to see more missions.
@chibigamer8867
@chibigamer8867 Жыл бұрын
Oh yes, I for one am excited for Real-Scale Mass Recall Brood War. The fights will be so fun, also that title is fun to say!
@kamerona4723
@kamerona4723 Жыл бұрын
Yoooooo, this is so awesome
@kelvin4067
@kelvin4067 Жыл бұрын
good fun, more real scale mass recall!
@MrCMaccc
@MrCMaccc Жыл бұрын
So uh... are muta's going to do funny math still? Also not me just learning the middle mouse button pans the camera...
@crusadertankgaming6694
@crusadertankgaming6694 Жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see the protoss in here, they'll be huge compared to the terran and zerg
@sssddd4812
@sssddd4812 Жыл бұрын
HERE COMES THE GANTRITHOR
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 Жыл бұрын
@@sssddd4812 OH FUCK
@michaelquemeneur2338
@michaelquemeneur2338 Жыл бұрын
Let's go this IS gonna be Amazing However i can't stop thinking about when are we gonna see more maraudeurs because i loves it so much
@archapmangcmg
@archapmangcmg Жыл бұрын
Love to see you have fun, mate.
@theduke3778
@theduke3778 Жыл бұрын
BroodWar ultralisks were MUCH smaller than the ones in SC2. They were actually pretty fast for something so big.
@eclairtleqaq4758
@eclairtleqaq4758 Жыл бұрын
If you put the real scale sc1 ultralisk side by side to SC2 ultralisks, they are indeed smaller. Although there actually isn’t a consistent scale for sc1 ultras. Their size relative to marines and vultures should be correct as shown in the brood war cinematic.
@Cobra100
@Cobra100 Жыл бұрын
I am super excited about this
@adrianmalinowski1073
@adrianmalinowski1073 Жыл бұрын
Oh fuck, the crossover we needed!
@LennoxValencio
@LennoxValencio Жыл бұрын
hell yeah keep them coming
@NevermindThee
@NevermindThee Жыл бұрын
You know what's funny? I have a tic. When I'm overly excited, I keep tapping my head rapidly, seemingly to releave tension or stress. And right now, I'm playing a heavy metal drum solo. Woohoooo!
@davidgould7160
@davidgould7160 Жыл бұрын
OH DAMN THIS GON BE GOOOD
@hyperN1337
@hyperN1337 Жыл бұрын
Grant over here talking about breaking their edgescrolling habit by using the middle mouse, meanwhile I never knew about the middle mouse either and went right into only clicking on the minimap to look around.
@JessWLStuart
@JessWLStuart Жыл бұрын
Please continue the Real-Scale Startcraft: Mass Recall series! :D
@Lp-gn5hx
@Lp-gn5hx Жыл бұрын
Clearly, the Spider mines will either stack on top each other to reached the capital ships, or start doing web slinging.
@epicgamer7653
@epicgamer7653 Жыл бұрын
How exciting, cant wait!
@gewinnendenfluss
@gewinnendenfluss Жыл бұрын
hyped for this one Grant
@JimRaynorRaider
@JimRaynorRaider Жыл бұрын
Fun fact about mission 3 In the editor, you can see a ship in the right corner and left corner, is a texter and other stuff of inside a building or ship(most likely) My guess, there was gonna be a cut scene where you'll see civ and Raynor/commander forces being in the dropships as they escape the area and board a nearby spaceship and maybe another cut scene plays OR Its the cut scene showing how raynor was saved, to explain how he got out But it seems the idea was cut. Shame. I love MR in game cut scene. They add fresh air to SC story telling. Just needed to cut some scenes and better view shots
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