Real Talk About Camera Reviewers

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[@bigrobotnewstoday1436]

The definition of professional is just someone that got paid to do a job. Anyone can be a pro even if you pay someone one penny.

[@Christellezphoto]

Boom

[@chronocross85]

You also need to have your business registered, have insurance and a proper website, not just an instagram page.

[@KofiYeboah]

5:30 "what they think matters doesn't matter to me" nail on the head, not every camera thats been released is meant for everyone. This was outstanding my guy

[@Christellezphoto]

Homie… thank you. Truly

[@LeeZavitz]

"Not everything is for you" is exactly my thoughts when people get bent out of shape about certain videos I make. Im not forcing you to buy anything. You have your own choice. I'm only here to show you what it does and what you can do with it. If it's not for you move on. Great rant. New sub 🤘🏻

[@Christellezphoto]

Glad to hear it resonated dude. And that we watched each others videos today 😅 Appreciate you taking the time homie!

[@mondobytes]

👏🏽 Well said, you earned a new sub my friend, I wish you great success.

[@Christellezphoto]

Appreciate that so much! Thanks for taking the time and following along 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@Being_Joe]

I will say, one of my frustrations with YT photographers is that there is a lot of bad info out there. No need to sh!7 on people but there are a lot of photographers on YT putting out bad info. It a bit frustrating.

[@Christellezphoto]

I’m with you for sure. Bad info is so prominent. That’s why my reviews so far have only been about my experience with the camera, not specifics, specs or information that could lead people down the wrong path!

[@Being_Joe]

@@Christellezphoto thank you for that. It has become whoever has gotten good at YT has the ability to sell a story to the masses regardless of what facts may actually be.

[@JesseDriftwood]

Great video dude!

[@Christellezphoto]

Thanks for taking the time to watch, Jesse!

[@MaxoticsTV]

No great photographer ever went into photography to make money. It's a part science, part art that one has to struggle to get paid to produce. Professionalism has nothing to do with camera equipment. A professional is one who listens to the client and gives them the results they're looking for. That will NEVER change. And it has nothing to do with age. Some get it at 15, some never get it.

[@mattdayphoto]

I’ve seen the video and I’ve seen his work. There are plenty of “KZbinrs” I would hire over him if I needed a photographer.

[@Christellezphoto]

Boom ✊

[@anonymousseven2491]

Who are we talking about?

[@Cthames123]

Yeah who is it? I want to go watch the video.

[@calincharles]

Everything you said is so true. The same applies to KZbin commenters lol. The amount of times I have people comment on my videos with some BS response - and I always think the same thing "Clearly this wasn't for you".

[@tazsmith]

I think we should focus on peoples strengths versus weaknesses. The KZbin camera community would be much better

[@krone5]

when I became a photographer, it did not make me a pro, but it really does not make sense that someone needs to be a pro photographer to review a camera, you just have to be good a reviewing a device.

[@CABRALCREATES]

This so call professionals that are always grumpy because they don't get that much attention 🤷🏽‍♂️ great video man!

[@kylemeshna]

Every bit of this is so spot on. Well said, Chris! Got my Sub.

[@Christellezphoto]

Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. Truly appreciated. And I’m stoked it felt honest and resonated

[@MarcusRFilms]

Mic dropped. Exit stage left. Nailed it

[@Christellezphoto]

🙏🏼🙏🏼👌

[@arsalanalim]

Great video Chris, you voiced a lot of my frustrations with the "get off my lawn" types on youtube.

[@danielschmaderer]

If you’re paying taxes, then you’re a professional. Simple as that. Doesn’t tell if that person is a good or bad professional, but regardless, they’re a professional. Something I can relate to, I’m a professional electrician. I know people who are professionals, yet I wouldn’t trust them to do work on my house….BUT they have a state license and pay taxes. They’re still professionals. That being said, I’m an enthusiast photographer. I’ve gotten paid for 2 portrait gig within a 3 year span, which doesn’t make me a professional at all. I’m also not fond of portrait photography. I like landscape, wildlife, and even real estate. If I do decide to do real estate professionally and I’m paying taxes, then I’m now a professional. So with all this being said, I’ve shot with Fujifilm for the last 3-4 years. The system seems to be seen as a professional kit, or a fun enthusiast kit. Truth is, you can use just about any bit of gear as a professional tool when you get the hang of it. Sure some gear can make shooting easier and make your shots land more frequently, but that all depends on what you’re shooting. Do I watch reviews? I do. But I’m watching them to see if there are flaws that will break my buying decision. If the perks are right for me and outweigh the flaws, then I’m all in. For the most part, I have the gear I want, so I’m just watching them for fun now. With that rant out of the way, enjoy your camera and have fun with it. If you’re a professional and the camera isn’t slowing you down, then use that tool for your work and keep at it.

[@halifaxzapp]

'Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer' -Mark Twain You cuss well, my dude. I felt the catharsis and laughed. I find the loud startling bleeps far more offensive than any swearing.

[@mynameisnotcory]

All i know, is i take the best pictures when i’m not getting paid in money, but in experience too. Like getting backstage at the show or trackside and getting the shot of a lifetime at the finish. Didnt get paid a cent but i sure as shit remember those pictures and not the wedding i made the most money

[@june_yah]

You know it's serious when the notes come out

[@Christellezphoto]

😅

[@Cthames123]

Don't get mad and throw something at me, but speaking for myself/(hobbist), when youtubers split the difference between a "content creator" and s professional I scratch my head because I don't know what they are talking about....I'm just tunned in to hear about the camera or lens!

[@astraeusone]

Sometimes what makes us angry on others could be a reflection of us…

[@Christellezphoto]

Ya but only sometimes

[@JS-cu8bz]

Top man mate. Keep it up.

[@Christellezphoto]

Much appreciated!!

[@JohnPaulRiker]

Yeah, a digital native may actually have a more informed opinion on a DIGITAL camera than an old guy. Full disclosure: I'm an old guy (well, middle-aged).

[@Ansonandco]

Great outlook on reviews and how it should work. Great opinion my dude!

[@Christellezphoto]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 thank you so much man!

[@fourth1000]

And as you say.. everyone has to answer what a professional is for themselves... Then you have to accept this guys belief on what a professional is. Even if it upsets you.

[@TonyReidsma]

I don’t care about anything you say, just tell me what gear you’re using! JUST KIDDING!!! (Sarcasm) Your FUJI XH2S video came up in my feed, and after watching a few of your videos I’ve decided to subscribe. You have good vibes my friend.

[@Christellezphoto]

Thank you 🙏🏼 I really appreciate you coming along for the ride and supporting!

[@CreatingwithKaya]

Heavy on the 'not everything is for you'. Came here from Kofi Yeboah's recommendation! I'm always shocked by the amount of people asking me for gear reviews--and it's really just because there a lot of content creators who are intimidated by the space, and just want to hear from someone who gets *their* use case.

[@Christellezphoto]

Appreciate you!! Thank you!!

[@luckyscamera]

I mean, you can’t go making sense!! Not fair lol

[@BrandonWhite-tg8nl]

Lol, my friends always come to me for answers and im in no way a pro, i just go way overboard with research and finding everything. Love the video

[@timmuza]

Give us his name! We want blood🩸

[@Christellezphoto]

He’s a concept

[@timmuza]

Don’t gate-keep, I’m sharpening my pitchfork.

[@DeeRosa]

@@timmuza bro this was fucking funny LMAO

[@MatthewDangyou]

Great video mate

[@Christellezphoto]

Thank you man!!

[@sword-and-shield]

The only thing I would leave out of the "Professional" definition, as a determiner, is the making of money or getting paid. It is not needed to be a Professional at anything, and history has proven that, regardless of anyone's personal opinion.

[@BluntWizz]

What does a 'young/old white guy' has to do anything with photography? kinda taken back on why is that even mentioned. Did the guy mention that or is this your take? So half and more of the video you are explaining how you, as a professional photographer, is basicaly on another plain of existence? Talking about high horse.... and your arguments about being professional are valid as in someone else is validating your work and compensating you, that is definitely a part of being a 'pro' although the main thing in my opinion is only the work you do, you can do your work like a professional and still dont get paid or do it for yourself. anyway, hard watch man. I'm not disputing your critiques to the guy you are referring too, but you showed your cards a bit too much, if that makes sense? Major props nevertheless.

[@Christellezphoto]

Appreciate you taking the time to comment. A few things. I clearly stated that my place as a professional photographer can absolutely be questioned as it’s not my full-time gig. I provided reasons why I either am or am NOT a professional. Never once did I claim that I’m on some elevated plain because I get paid to take photos… I’m truly not sure where that accusation is coming from. I communicated that I think there’s room for everyone in this space, and that needlessly separating “pros” from “KZbinrs” is just creating division that doesn’t need to be there. If that made it seem like I was elevating myself… I’m not sure what to say about that. As for the “young/old white guy”… there’s a problem with gate keeping in our industry and with a lack of representation every BIPOC community member I have ever spoken to has talked about how this kind of behaviour is especially pervasive coming from older Caucasian men. So out of respect for the reality that our BIPOC and non-gender conforming fellow artists experience when interacting with other members of the community, I felt like addressing that. Not only that, but as someone who is also white, who has undoubtedly benefited from that within my industry, yes, I am going to acknowledge it. Hope that provides some more context, BluntWizz!

[@BluntWizz]

Hi bud, my pleasure! Wanted to expand more on this on basically how you played the same game as the guy you were mad about by saying hobbyists are not looking at the same things as professionals undermining the hobby itself. Never mind, just realized you are from americas. That my bad. We definitely do not operate know same plane of existence. You guys didn’t pass by hardships for a long time for us to be having this conversation. Who the hell in photography is gatekeeping based on someone’s gender or race? Mind boggling stuff bud! To think that i can see someone’s work and be like “wow this is beautiful!” and then go “he/she is this this and this…never mind, slam the door” I think this is exclusive to the US and Canada by my experience. Having friends of all shapes and sizes, colors and looks. I definitely cannot relate with that kind of struggle americans and canadians are referring in photography. Lol Stop pandering to others,

[@FerventAstronomy]

Outside of the motivations that spur those kinds of talking points from that crowd, the irony that blossoms from their lack of self awareness is what makes me chuckle and shake my head. “Listen to meeee, I’m a PROfessional, not one of these Yooooutubers. Make sure to like this video and subscribe, and hit that bell for notifications!”

[@Christellezphoto]

Biting the hand that feeds, as they say

[@angeloplayforone]

This called Civil War about Gerard Undone has showed a lot of new content creator like you. You said it correctly this reviewer is not a professional photographer or videographer. Good point about the pro that is busy and not having to dig into the technology. I don’t agree that an enthusiast or hobbyist shot only cats, dogs or children. This people are casual users and don’t buy dedicated camera but use their smartphone. The hobbyist take his hobby seriously and use his camera regularly. For instance wildlife photographers buy expensive lenses and camera for their hobby and use this equipment regularly and extensive but does not paid but does it for fun. Anyway another You Tuber that I need to subscribed.

[@Christellezphoto]

Thank you so much and really appreciate you subbing! You’re right about the hobbyist. I realize that it may have come across like I was putting them in a lower category, but really all I meant was that they don’t have access to brand reps and that sort of thing like pros do, so they need to do their research in a different way. But excellent point you made. Especially about wildlife photographers. It’s so interesting too because I put my video out before Gerald, so there must have been something in the air that had me feeling like this haha!

[@Image1Nation]

I take money for photography but don’t consider myself as a professional photographer because it’s not my profession, it’s a side hustle that pays for my hobby. Someone else in the same situation and think themself to be a professional because they feel like they put in the work. The level of success is another story. My main source of income is in the food industry and I am a pro in that industry.

[@bingbong4848]

No need to swear bro. Control that youthful aggression 🙃 Sincerely- an old man.

[@Christellezphoto]

😅

[@MikBehindTheLens]

Man you got me thinking now if I should even start my KZbin Channel LOL. I am a a beginner (Almost 3 Months) and was going to basically start a channel For Amateur's from An Amateur. But no reviews, just what I went through so far to hopefully help someone who is also starting out... I am a hobbyist, not a pro LOL. I will not saying that in my videos... if I decide to go with it. I appreciate your video because you are completely correct! Thanks man!

[@Christellezphoto]

ABSOLUTELY START!! Best time is now, my friend. Second best time is tomorrow. Just do the thing, and you will help others!

[@MikBehindTheLens]

@@Christellezphoto appreciate you❤️❤️

[@MadefromJava]

I think I know who the “F” 😉 you’re talking about. Good stuff here man. Subbed

[@Cthames123]

Who is it? I want to see the video.

[@tylerhostetter8289]

Most people have KZbin channels either directly or indirectly to produce income for them. It could be from the adsense money mostly or to feed/promote to the other products and services. Of course there is going to be some salesmanship involved to give themselves a bit more credibility. I find that to be expected, as long as you know that and use that to set your expectation level. If the person is lying, that is not acceptable, but if they are interpreting their own skills to their benefit... I think that is what most professionals do to promote their image and prestige and help improve their bottom line through additional sales. When there is a product review, my expectation is that the reviewer is going to promote the product to keep whoever sent the product to them happy to keep the products coming, and also help them collect money from their affiliate links. If you know the motivations of the producer of the content and who they make their money, use that in how you receive their content. There will probably be some valuable information in their presentation and then also some fluff.

[@CryptoJones]

Chris the lighting for this is amazing. Would you do be willing do a video on your lighting setup?

[@Christellezphoto]

Hey! This was so so simple, natural light that was motivated by a bounced video light off the wall, on the right side of the camera. I also used one of my luts (made for colour but dropped onto a monochrome profile) that I actually have been pretty happy with! Thanks for the kind words!!

[@CryptoJones]

@@Christellezphoto I really love it. It reminds me of IR scenes in Dune.

[@Christellezphoto]

That’s super kind! Thank you!!

[@iamalexchua]

I think people need to watch the video of the man that you are talking about so we can all come up with our own conclusions. I watched his video. He did say something about KZbinrs and professional photographers and people can easily interpret it on one way or another so let people watch it and let people come up with their opinions. The name of the page is The F Stops Here

[@JohnPaulRiker]

BOOM! well said

[@heresmyurl]

I do agree with the overall message: being a professional does not mean that your camera review is in anyway more valid than that of a youtube photographer. However, I'd posit that the constant hammer of "professional" lends credit to their claims that they know what they are talking about. I understand, also, the anger whomever you're talking about has towards youtubers, to a degree, simply because people on youtube (like anywhere else on the internet) present themselves as though what they are saying is 100% fact, when plenty of times it is clear they're just creating a video solely to create a video to feed their channel. Do I really want to watch a video of a guy who has had a camera for all of 9 hours, shot a roll or two (or equivalent digital frames) and go out and buy a camera? No. The problem with youtube as a machine that pays people, is that it incentivizes people to create content, any content, regardless of if that content is factual. Professionals are victims of this, too. I don't care what a professional has to say if they haven't actually used a camera system more than the sample they've been sent by a camera company to review, in this sense, a youtuber and a professional are one in the same. As a viewer, people think that more subscribers means more valid which is not true at all, just as like count doesn't mean a photo is good.

[@DavidZhou]

So well said! New sub here 😁

[@Christellezphoto]

Appreciate you!! Thank you!!

[@DeeRosa]

I don't know who this video is about but I do have to say I've dealt with someone like this a couple of years ago and he puts out 3-4 KZbin videos a week now; people who have to tell you they're a professional by saying others aren't - they're not a real photographer themselves. EDIT: IT'S THE SAME GUY LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@Christellezphoto]

👀👀👀

[@robbellphoto]

I have a small Meh channel with 1300 people who have signed up to check in from time to time. I have been paid to shoot folks yes, but, my full time work which pays the mortgage is not film making. BUT.... I love youtube because it encourages us to be better at the things we love doing. I'd love my videos and content to be as solid as yours mate. Loved this video for sure. KZbin at my level pays me a tiny amount. Enough to pay for my 35mm film and the occasional new battery from kastar ;-) So.... I'm a fan and support all who are here

[@Christellezphoto]

I appreciate the kind words man, truly! I love this platform and it helps me and so many others get better at what we do, just like you said!

[@JeffBourke]

To be fair, half of the camera review channels do nothing but. Then they will complain that this camera doesn’t have “shutter angle” because they always use “shutter angle”. YT is full of wanks.

[@Christellezphoto]

😅😅😅

[@bigrobotnewstoday1436]

There is something else I want to add is when it comes to education you need to be smart as to who you want to listen to. Some people have the gift to talk and are great on camera. And some people will take that as the gospel. When I want to learn something in photography be in wedding photography or boudoir photography I always pic three or four masters to study. This is so I get a good idea how things work. Because even masters don't always get it 100% right. There is a wedding photographer by the Joe Buissink who came up with the best way to shoot a DSLR camera back in the day. They way he came out with a new way to shoot only in P mode was a game changer and most people will turn their nose when they here P mode. P mode is not auto like most people think there is program shift and everyone can do it. There are some videos on KZbin with Joe Buissink and when you see his photography the man was a ninja and some people even called him the Terminator of wedding photography. No one on KZbin can even hold a candle to his photography.

[@Christellezphoto]

I think that’s so true! And that’s where there is a difference between learning technique and a gear review. Learn technique from masters, get camera specs from people who know tech!

[@ToddDeSilva]

Great vid. Nice to follow fellow Canadians (especially those of us in Ontario). I agree 100%. With the exception of Gerald Undone, if you are doing a “review “ and it’s just a talking head video with out any real world examples, I’m moving on real fast.

[@Christellezphoto]

Yeah Gerald is making the tech focused reviews at such a high level!

[@Eric12123]

If you hadn't mentioned the sub numbers, I would have thought it was Ken Rockwell...

[@Christellezphoto]

Haha no way. Scared of him

[@CryptoJones]

The ham radio community is like this too. A bunch of old white guys who don't like new things.

[@Christellezphoto]

Man oh man. The Ham Radio community? That’s rad to know that exists though! I love seeing different communities that are out there

[@flightographist]

Vivian Maier was a pro for decades and no one ever heard of her until after she died and her corpus was discovered. The term is moot. Anyone committed to this visual art is a pro. Vivian likely communicated her thoughts on the cameras she used, including: a Kodak Brownie ( I learned on one with my grandfather) then several Rolleiflex. I'm sure she had a lot to say about the shutter issues they experience and how they impacted her exposures. YT is full of real artists intent on sharing process as well as legions of carpet baggers.

[@MrAhmama]

Personally I've stopped watching those gear reviews completely. I don't want to go to a store and say "this old white pro photographer said that...", I want to have my own opinion when getting something, then it feels more valuable and I don't need someone else to make my opinion for me. Guidance, maybe. But not my whole buying decision should fall on someone else's shoulders. I much more value videos like this. That talk about photography, and the space around that. These videos get me thinking with my head instead of my wallet, with these kinds of videos that actually handle photography from a non-gear point of view. Maybe not rants like this (Even though it's enjoyable to watch), but just general photography practice videos that provide me actual value. If someone on KZbin tells me to try a compositional style for example, it costs me absolutely nothing, except time of course.

[@bigrobotnewstoday1436]

I do think there is a problem sometimes with some KZbin photographers acting like they are some high end fashion photographer walking around with a Godox Communist Light and they found some girl on Instagram. The best real photographer I found on KZbin that you can learn from is Daria Koso. Also I don't think its wrong to be a KZbin photographer as long as your up front that this is a hobby and your not trying to sell workshops and online courses when you never worked in the fashion world and with products. Before the camera companies would just work with well know people that used their brands and most of the time its because their work was amazing. Now these companies will work with anyone as long as you make videos and chill for their product.

[@Christellezphoto]

I totally agree man. And again I think that’s the difference between tech reviews and technique reviews. And when people are dishonest about their place or where they are at in their careers, it for sure is damaging

[@tundrusphoto4312]

Photography is an occupation not a profession. The word "professional" has been devalued to the point it has little meaning. For example, you take your clothes to a professional dry cleaner. You take your dog to a professional dog groomer. These occupations are not in the same category as professions such as doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. A doctor who commits malpractice can lose their licence to practice. There is no licence to be lost as a photographer. People doing photography videos on KZbin broadly fall into two categories. The first is the photographer who earns a living or a portion of their living taking photographs for clients. They are the working photographer. The second type talks about photography, but is not a working photographer. Both are legitimate as long as there isn't any misrepresentation and there can be overlap. The key is whether there is either explicitly or implicitly misrepresentation as to who they are.

[@Christellezphoto]

Nailed it

[@Malick333]

Algorithm knew I wanted a feisty Canadian (finally). 😂 Who is a “pro”? Anyone who does it as a profession, that’s it. Has nothing to do with skill or gear or type of photography. It gets confusing cause we usually associate “pro” with the best skill wise, but that’s not the case with photography. There are plenty of mediocre photographers making a living, and plenty of super talented photographers doing it as a hobby. On another note, if KZbin is truly for everyone, maybe there’s a place for guys like that guy and his audience. If you don’t respect him, then who cares what he thinks or does. And if you’re concerned about him poisoning people’s minds with bad info then basically make a reaction video and call him out …… or play the long game and build your own audience.

[@Christellezphoto]

Yeah there certainly is an irony in me calling him out haha. But mostly I’m just hoping people can respect people for what they offer or don’t offer and not the labels we want to throw on them

[@Malick333]

@@Christellezphoto agree man. For me labels and talk and titles mean very little to me other than a “maybe they are good or knowledgeable” because I’ve come across tons of idiots in life …. but it’s their actions and their work that I assess their true talent. And yet I’ve learned so much technically from people who aren’t pro or great too. What drives me nuts in my industry is someone who makes videos calling themselves a filmmaker yet never made a short film or feature in their life. Good luck!

[@JeffBourke]

Camera “reviews” are out of control.

[@iminanalog]

I watched his video. It’s a “long term” review. I was hoping for more information on the camera in the long term. Instead we got a lot of talk about quirks that KZbinrs don’t like about the camera. A significant portion of his video was about him trying to differentiate himself from KZbinrs. It’s a shame. When I’m looking into a camera or gear I want all the reviews. I want them from that weird dude with 5 followers. I want them from gatekeeping street photographers. I want them from people I’m even ashamed to admit I watch. I want them from old white dudes who shoot mainly in studios. Why? Because they are sharing information and experiences. Yes there may be a lot of overlap. Yes there will be tons of differences. However, with all of that information, from that trove of sources, I can make a better decision. Yes he has an audience. And most likely he is speaking to that audience. But at least have the integrity to name the video appropriately. Luckily I think people like him are a dying breed. There will always be the gatekeepers. But there are just way too many gateways now. One more thing. Videos like yours are important. I understand wanting to be “positive” most of the time. But the reality is you are being positive here. Being critical and being positive are not mutually exclusive. People need to hear the kinds of thoughts you put out in this video. Even if you’re not naming names, being critical of tired ideas is a good thing.

[@Christellezphoto]

I love all of this and I absolutely agree!! When I used to run my businesses and we’d hire someone new I would tell them “everyone here is going to give you advice. Take ALL of it in with appreciation, then keep what resonates, and let the rest fall away”. We need to get information from the whole spread, not just those we already agree with. And thank you for reinforcing the idea that being critical doesn’t have to be mean or negative, I think that’s what helps us keep each other accountable!

[@robmcd]

The point you’ve overlooked is old white guy pro photographer doesn’t rely on SCNF to send cameras to them as part of their content mill to generate income. If you don’t rely on a camera company for your pay check directly or indirectly then the value of the review to the viewer is diminished. I will watch camera reviews from the main crew and old white you to form my own balanced opinion.

[@Christellezphoto]

Well, lots of them do get sent gear to review, so I’m not 100% sure that is the case. And regardless, it’s all good. Just seeing someone hate on “KZbinrs” while being a KZbinr and generating income from KZbin just feels like they are being really unfair and dishonest

[@robmcd]

@@Christellezphoto absolutely agree. But you can't rely on career youtubers to be completely transparent about negatives. Some negatives take months to appear and doing a pre-embargo review is just insufficient. But I will say I dont think you can buy a bad camera on the market right now.

[@liamgoodvisuals]

I love spicy Chris 😍

[@Christellezphoto]

Only spicy on occasion 😅

[@hasenmyer]

In the same respect maybe his video was not for YOU. Maybe he has a different audience/community, and he was speaking directly to them. Maybe you just happened on his video, just like I did yours. KZbin is a big world with lots of opinions

[@Christellezphoto]

That’s actually the correct answer. The guy has way more followers than me. So something is resonating with people. I suppose the question is, if someone has continually been denigrating other creators for years and years based solely upon his own opinion of their credibility, questioning their claims of professionalism, while in the same breath uplifting themselves, their work, and their position, despite being called out on this kind of behaviour multiple times, is it still fair for someone like myself to call that behaviour out? Or do I just say “oh well, not for me”…. Which is ultimately what most of us do 90% of the time. So this time I didn’t. This time I pushed back against bullying. To each their own ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@hasenmyer]

@@Christellezphoto I actually found the video you were referencing. I've never watched one of his videos. If he has been bullying people for years I have no idea. If he has, then that's wrong. Guess what, if you earn a 1.00 using a camera you are officially a pro, nobody on the internet is a gatekeeper. It's not like you get a card or anything. I've been triggered by many things on KZbin and have made videos about in response as well. Honestly I stopped watching most "photography" channels and just do things my way, and I've been way more productive and happier. Best of luck to you!

[@Christellezphoto]

I really appreciate the thoughtful response and discourse. The internet can work like this 😅 Thank YOU and all the best ☺️

[@_o__o_]

i farted

[@IliaMassalkine]

Shredder. Everyone is so opinionated and they feel that their belief is the law, even though it changes when they no longer believe its reality. It’s a generational thing with everything not just photography. Every generation does not realize that times change and new things just work better. Keep your cool and keep doing amazing work. Really hope to run into you some time!

[@GG-zv9ku]

lol. I saw "that" video a few weeks back

[@Christellezphoto]

👀👀

[@Cthames123]

What was the video?

[@tiffanyparker1161]

Lol think I saw the video, annoying how he kept banging on about how basically he's a real photographer and most youtubers aren't real photographers which in no way is right, but I do see his frustration with everyone following the hype of youtubers, it's probably because everyone keeps calling Nikon potato's and cameras are just tools and if u can't learn to use them properly then Ur the potato. But yeh don't go bashing all youtube photographers because of it.

[@glenkhumalo2193]

Uncle Dan?

[@mynameisnotcory]

It…isnt Fro is it 🤣

[@Christellezphoto]

Hahaha nah I promise it’s not Fro

[@mynameisnotcory]

@@Christellezphoto nothing against him, i know he likes to post and review gear and i cant complain

[@Christellezphoto]

Haha imagine if I started a fight with him. He’d yell so loud I’d hear it up in canada

[@therealdeal4492]

Is this some kinda woke rant about what triggered you... jeeze 🤦

[@Christellezphoto]

Yup. That’s exactly what this is. A woke rant by a snowflake

[@hedydd2]

This asinine rant isn’t for me, that’s certain. I make my own mind up as to what is relevant to me as, I strongly suspect, do most people that are endowed with a brain cell.

[@Christellezphoto]

Love that you edited this to make it more mean. Class act

[@raccoons_stole_my_account]

There is few more toxic groups of people than fotographers. Level of jealousy is unreal.