The Crusade of Varna - John Hunyadi vs. The Ottoman Turks

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@RealCrusadesHistory
@RealCrusadesHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Get my book about the Crusades: www.amazon.com/Why-Does-Heathen-Rage-Crusades/dp/152395762X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461105827&sr=8-1&keywords=why+does+the+heathen+rage
@quasimodojdls
@quasimodojdls 4 жыл бұрын
Eugenius IV: The enemy is at the gates! England and France : Yeah, but we'd rather fight each other. *facepalm*
@MightOfChrist
@MightOfChrist 4 жыл бұрын
huge facepalm
@emperorconstantinexipalaio4121
@emperorconstantinexipalaio4121 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone did a video on this! One of my favorite commanders, hands down. Thank you and God bless.
@LuckystrikeNQ
@LuckystrikeNQ 4 жыл бұрын
Start date of Europa Universalis IV. 1444 right after the battle of Varna.
@davitsurguladze6643
@davitsurguladze6643 4 жыл бұрын
From Varna to Napoleon. There were indeed very thoughtful when choosing the dates.
@piebrostheman
@piebrostheman 4 жыл бұрын
Yes one of my favorite time periods please do cover more
@raygiordano1045
@raygiordano1045 4 жыл бұрын
Given the channel is called Real Crusade History I feel pretty sure his future videos will cover this era. Thanks to all the wars and power struggles of the time it'll be a while before he runs out of materials. I just hope he has the desire to make more videos.
@tauceti8341
@tauceti8341 4 жыл бұрын
dude you do such a good job on these I never want them to end.
@RealCrusadesHistory
@RealCrusadesHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@nathanielrourke8886
@nathanielrourke8886 4 жыл бұрын
Venice, it always seems to be the Venetians.
@davidwiszniowski9152
@davidwiszniowski9152 4 жыл бұрын
Too interested in greed and saving their own hides
@decantabriaball938
@decantabriaball938 10 ай бұрын
Ironically causing there own downfall in hindsight
@galenusv7831
@galenusv7831 4 жыл бұрын
I blame the italians (slowly trying to hide my username)
@raygiordano1045
@raygiordano1045 4 жыл бұрын
It's been downhill for the Italians since the Roman Empire.
@acrxsls1766
@acrxsls1766 4 жыл бұрын
@@raygiordano1045 Lol, the Italians aren't Romans.
@raygiordano1045
@raygiordano1045 4 жыл бұрын
@@acrxsls1766 well you're right, but I was just making a casual comment. Besides, thanks to the Roman legions, there's a little Roman in everyone. (Note: that was a wisecrack, not a serious statement about world wide genetic content.)
@ORaddlyispissedoff
@ORaddlyispissedoff 4 жыл бұрын
Theo Lionheart technically everyone in Latin Europe is a Roman too then
@countraymond.1v701
@countraymond.1v701 4 жыл бұрын
Your still Volcae. Ostrogoth Viking/Celt lol from Ireland
@renauddechatillon245
@renauddechatillon245 4 жыл бұрын
AH!! THE HARDY EASTERN EUROPEANS!! MAY THEY ALWAYS BE HONORED FOR THEIR STEADFASTNESS!! THERE ARE STILL SOME IN THE WEST WHO DON'T FORGET!!!!
@Jagatai8925
@Jagatai8925 4 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget the heroes that have fought and even lost their lives for the future of the European society.
@Ajtonyvezer1
@Ajtonyvezer1 4 жыл бұрын
...And let's not forget about a country that was one of the most powerful and considerable countries in Europe at those times, but due to it's self-sacrifice, fighting against muslims for centuries, today is a tiny nation and country. Yes, it is Hungary.
@grimreaper492
@grimreaper492 3 жыл бұрын
@Jotaro97 yes and so was the croatian king because the crusaders were pillaging and looting christian south-slav villages
@loseyourself5023
@loseyourself5023 4 жыл бұрын
Not enough information for both sides for example sultan Murat left the throne in 1444 and retired in Asia and that was a important factor for crusaders since his son was 12 years old or some people say John hunyadi has Turkic heritage
@AshenRinglets
@AshenRinglets 4 жыл бұрын
great video!
@Ghost-vi8qm
@Ghost-vi8qm 4 жыл бұрын
Your beautiful! Where your from?
@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 4 жыл бұрын
2:43 Hunyadi was almost for sure a descendent of Cuman refugees. About the time of the Battle of Varna, all cumans were fully assimilated into Hungarian society/nobility. Nowadays Romanians are trying to claim him as a member of their nation but that's very doubtful.
@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari1326
@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari1326 4 жыл бұрын
His ancestors have all cuman names
@htoodoh5770
@htoodoh5770 4 жыл бұрын
@TripleHerbals some part of Romania used to be part of Hungary.
@RealCrusadesHistory
@RealCrusadesHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. The sources I used for the video did mention that there is quite a bit of controversy surrounding his origins.
@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 4 жыл бұрын
@@RealCrusadesHistory Yeah it's a typical issue in Central-Eastern Europe. The "younger" nations that developed inside the borders of Poland and Hungary have a tendency of appropriating the history of their former hosts to their needs. Usually for propaganda and validation. Poland is at constant conflict regarding this matter with Belarus and Ukraine just like Hungary is with Romania. Authors of the sources you used probably tried to stay neutral in this conflict.
@RealCrusadesHistory
@RealCrusadesHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Well I'd like to think overall there could be a sense of unity among all those nations.
@cesareborgia6431
@cesareborgia6431 3 жыл бұрын
Aren't you a bit harsh with Venice? A storm dispersed the fleet making it easier for the Ottomans to cross + the fleet was not as large as Venice had asked for, hence the reluctance to engage the Ottoman fleet. Venice often had a duplicitous role when it came to fighting the Ottomans (same can unfortunatey be said of Constantinople's emperors) but on this occasion they aren''t the most to be blamed. Cesarini is more guilty for convincing the King of Hungary that an oath to "infidels" did not engage him. Or Constantinople for that matter that did not warn the Crusaders that the Ottomans had crossed the strait.
@hamzahgh9484
@hamzahgh9484 4 жыл бұрын
Why did you skip the crusade of nicopolis
@MZONE991
@MZONE991 4 жыл бұрын
He does not necessarily do videos in chronological order
@MZONE991
@MZONE991 4 жыл бұрын
​@Jotaro97 each battle has a reason for failure on part of the defeated, this is not an excuse, this is just history had the venetians done the blockade, the army would have secured the Balkans
@moonshadowsong
@moonshadowsong 3 жыл бұрын
He said the an army of crusader from deferent kingdom managed to Host 20k only , What make them think they can win the war with less manpower in enemy land?!...i think the numbers is wrong
@moonshadowsong
@moonshadowsong 3 жыл бұрын
Even he said the crusader army are 20k and ottoman 30k and in video 7:55 he said crusader meet ottoman 3 v1 that mean 30k×3=90k 🤔 or if mean crusader meet army of ottoman that mean 20k×3=60k 🤔 iam confuse .
@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus
@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus 4 жыл бұрын
If a Piast King of Poland or an Arpad King of Hungary led the crusade of Varna, things would be different
@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus
@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus 4 жыл бұрын
@Jotaro97 Piasts were ruthless, Jagiellonians were not
@emrcn1538
@emrcn1538 Жыл бұрын
I guess we ll never know
@MariaCKouto
@MariaCKouto 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video as always 👍
@7gromojar
@7gromojar 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Poland and Hungary are in central Europe, not eastern. Beside that, greast video.
@Kintabl
@Kintabl 4 жыл бұрын
Everything that was under communism is eastern Europe.
@abcjuniormilton
@abcjuniormilton 4 жыл бұрын
A true tragedy. No thanks to the Venetians, who messed up 2 crusades: the Fourth and then this one. And too bad that England and France chose to fight each other rather than face the real enemy: the Ottomans. Rip Wladyslaus III of Poland-Hungary, young and rash. I hope he was forgiven for causing the defeat at Varna.
@abcjuniormilton
@abcjuniormilton 4 жыл бұрын
Were England and France the ony combatants in 1396 against the Ottomans? Perhaps if they had been part of the crusade most of the Balkans could have been spared Ottoman rule and maybe even Constantinople saved? Just a suggestion but probably not
@hunmanjohnmatthew2032
@hunmanjohnmatthew2032 4 жыл бұрын
Well first of all Hunyadi János was Hungarian and the Hungarian, Polish, Valachian and Bulgarian - the Serbs didn't even bother to join - Crusaders have failed because the Genovese betrayed the Alliance and (contrary to their promise to the Pope) shipped the Turkish forces in their necks :-( ...
@Hardistul
@Hardistul 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, John was of Romanian (Vallachian) origin, as stated even by his son's court historian (his son being Matthias Corvinus, the King of Hungary). His father, Voicu (Voyk) moved to Transylvania from Vallachia and was granted land near Hunedoara, present day Romania, by Sigismund of Luxembourg.
@hunmanjohnmatthew2032
@hunmanjohnmatthew2032 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hardistul Well Hunyadi János has been never called John or Ion for that matter and spoke Hungarian in his whole life so we were not talking about his origin (and "his son" Corvin Mátyás actually was the son of Sigismund of Luxemburg (that's why Hunyadi János got Hunyadvár which has been given to Romanian robbers only in 1920).
@theMOCmaster
@theMOCmaster 4 жыл бұрын
sounds like slander by the actually guilty venetians to me, its not like a few more ferries even mattered if the venetians werent in the hellespont
@gachibass3639
@gachibass3639 5 ай бұрын
@@Hardistul He has nothing to do with romania,His father was a cuman noble not roman.
@Hardistul
@Hardistul 5 ай бұрын
@@gachibass3639 You mad bruv? He had nothing to do with the Cumans. There were no settled Cumans in Wallachia (they all went to Hungary), only Pechenegs. In what parallel universe is the name Voicu or Voyk Turkic? Bare in mind that even today there the name Voicu is common in Romania both as a surname and as a given name. And Janos is ”Iancu” in Romanian, not ”Ion”.
@pablodee9024
@pablodee9024 4 жыл бұрын
Have you thought of offering online history classes?
@papazataklaattiranimam
@papazataklaattiranimam 4 жыл бұрын
Was John Hunyadi Cuman?
@WWSzar
@WWSzar 4 жыл бұрын
Basically everyone claims him
@Sealdeam
@Sealdeam 4 жыл бұрын
Even Hunyadi's own family added to the confusion about his origins, Matthias Corvinus claimed that John Hunyadi was a bastard son of Emperor Sigismund.
@eldarion5919
@eldarion5919 4 жыл бұрын
Sealdeam The Hunyadi family was most likely a “Hungarianised” vlachian family.
@Sealdeam
@Sealdeam 4 жыл бұрын
@@eldarion5919 Yeah, that was most certainly BS Corvinus was just trying to add prestige / legitimacy to himself and his reign by associating his father with the emperors of the House of Luxemburg, while that claim might had not been very believable even back then I do not think anyone would had risked openly question him in that regard while he was king so for decades probably no one bothered to look into the past of the Hunyadi family probably contributing to the relative obscurity of the topic.
@tudor737
@tudor737 5 ай бұрын
Likelly not. Geneally the noblemne married among themselves.
@bigboyrambo2009
@bigboyrambo2009 4 жыл бұрын
This was the last crusade?
@bigboyrambo2009
@bigboyrambo2009 4 жыл бұрын
@Pan M that wasn't a crusade.
@bigboyrambo2009
@bigboyrambo2009 4 жыл бұрын
@Pan M it might be the battle of Nicopolis
@bigboyrambo2009
@bigboyrambo2009 4 жыл бұрын
@Pan M no, sorry it was the battle of Mohac
@AegeanGreywolf
@AegeanGreywolf 3 жыл бұрын
Second battle of Kosovo(1448) was the last crusade altough it was not multiethnic crusade like Battle of Varna. But that was huge battle too.The Pope has called for a Crusade a couple times(Lepanto, Preveza, Mohacs or Vienna) but ı did not count them as crusade
@ObiJohnKenobi67
@ObiJohnKenobi67 2 жыл бұрын
I’d argue the Great Turkish War was the last crusade. After the 17th century the idea of a united European Christian front against the Turks kind of collapsed due to the stagnation of the latter and colonial conflict taking president for the former.
@dios1ish868
@dios1ish868 3 жыл бұрын
Hunyadi was captured and betrayed by the Serbs. They even imprisoned him and made him sign over many of his properties to them. Skanderbeg who was his close ally was not allowed by the Serbs to go to the aid of Hunyadi. Not sure why Serbs act like they really fought against Ottoman Turks, but in the end they made deals with them always betraying the coalition, same thing they did in the Battle of Kosovo which now they continue with their mythology that it was their battle when it was a coalition battle of Balkan principalities which prince Lazar of Serbia betrayed and aided the Ottomans. On the other hand Venetians were also worse. They were more concerned about their trades than the crusade. Skanderbeg was the last crusader who was going to lead the last battle of crusade against the Ottomans who he also kept for close to 25 years away from crossing over to Europe. I think Pope Pious II was poisoned by Venetians to stop the crusade and just accept the Ottoman rule on the East.
@Hardistul
@Hardistul 4 жыл бұрын
John Hunyadi's origins are not mysterious at all. He was of Romanian (Vallachian) origin, as clearly stated by his son's (Matthias Corvinus, the King of Hungary) chronicler. Most historians consider that his father, Voicu Hunyadi was a Vallachian nobleman which was granted land in Hunedoara (present day Romania, a county and city that is named after the Hunyad family) by Sigismund of Luxembourg. Others say Voicu was a Knez (Vallachian military leader from Hungarian controlled Transylvanian provinces). Either way, there is no doubt that John was of Romanian stock and he is Romanian national hero as well. There are other instances of Knezes that fought valiantly for Hungary, such as Paul Chinezul (Pál Kinizsi) (originally from Satchinez, near Timișoara, Romania), who became a general in Matthias Corvinus' army and is said to have won every battle he took part in. His most known victory over the Ottomans was in the Battle of Câmpul Pâinii (Battle of Breadfield)
@hunmanjohnmatthew2032
@hunmanjohnmatthew2032 4 жыл бұрын
Well the forefathers of Hunyadi János were noble Cumanians and not robber Wallachians - big difference (like Heaven and Earth) :-( ...
@materakoczi2519
@materakoczi2519 4 жыл бұрын
@@hunmanjohnmatthew2032 Még Kinizsi Pált is románnak állítják be, hihetetlen.
@xenophon5159
@xenophon5159 4 жыл бұрын
Discipline wins the day
@Sacred_Walls
@Sacred_Walls 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like all men used to do back in the day is fight. It’s not everyday war bruv. Smh
@andrashadik7195
@andrashadik7195 2 жыл бұрын
💪😎
@costyconstantin3814
@costyconstantin3814 2 жыл бұрын
maybe romanian origins? :)))))) u are a hungarian i guess
@RealCrusadesHistory
@RealCrusadesHistory 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly no. I'm an American from Texas. I read it in one of my source materials for the video. Do you think it's inaccurate?
@costyconstantin3814
@costyconstantin3814 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealCrusadesHistory the general opinion , wiki say the same, is that he is wallachian ancestry. He fought for the hungary and they praise him more than anyone else.
@RealCrusadesHistory
@RealCrusadesHistory 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the info.
@akashkerketta6471
@akashkerketta6471 4 жыл бұрын
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@djpikas0
@djpikas0 4 жыл бұрын
Possibly romanian?:-))))....100% “romanian”...valahian back then....possibly😂😂
@RealCrusadesHistory
@RealCrusadesHistory 4 жыл бұрын
I just went with the information in my sources. Apparently there is some mystery surrounding his ancestry. Is this correct?
@papazataklaattiranimam
@papazataklaattiranimam 4 жыл бұрын
Many sources claiming Cuman origin
@papazataklaattiranimam
@papazataklaattiranimam 4 жыл бұрын
Real Crusades History his ancestors have all cuman names also
@RealCrusadesHistory
@RealCrusadesHistory 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the information you guys provide here in the comments. I learn a lot from you all!
@olmaned3795
@olmaned3795 4 жыл бұрын
His father’s name was Voicu, with his brother being called Radu. These are typical Romanian names
@jennypoussin3866
@jennypoussin3866 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the more realistic look at History Doing research for a comic book project and after binge watching will change a lot of things I was getting wrong :)
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