How a Single Swedish Submarine Defeated the US Navy

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[@ragerancher]

"in warfare this isn't a sound strategy" Well technically, as it's sonar, it is.

[@damp2269]

wish i could like this twice.

[@Tirocoa]

Took me a minute.

[@sgvs6940]

Imagine the word "sound" in Dan's comment being italicized. Brilliant.

[@himaro101]

@@Tirocoa Same here...

[@coskuarsiray]

it ultrasounds good.

[@spacekraken666]

"I'm about to end this man's whole carrier"

[@thatasiankid2904]

Ha I get the joke

[@lambsauce7235]

SpaceKraken underrated comment

[@irfan123100]

nice.

[@arnaud78]

Haha, an original twist on a joke which can't pull the pastry off a pie. Well done.

[@davisjohnson5688]

Ha!

[@namasayanif]

This sub holds its "farts" for 2 weeks to stalk an enemy. That's dedication.

[@Nxtn]

Jag ser vad du gjorde där

[@Adenn]

@@Nxtn Jeg ser hvad du gjorde der

[@slovenlyelk898]

@Anessen I-It was a joke man

[@generalwarhead8524]

awesome awesome . that was a nice joke.

[@johaneriksson360]

Ofcourse we swedes finish our tasks with our minds instead of might

[@korgothofbarbaria2841]

Sailor "Sir sonar conntact!!! Bearing 345..they... They are playing ABBA??" Captain: "Dear God... All hands abandon ship....

[@davidian7787]

US Navy: We have a fine Naval tradition. Sweden: We've put Vikings in a submarine.

[@vishifish9934]

@me me they are Scandinavian

[@zunderdod24]

@@vishifish9934 They're dicks.

[@wyldeyouth]

@me me horses are animals

[@nicklindhorst9708]

@@wyldeyouth And I am wesle

[@steelshower7949]

zunderdog24 let me guess, British?

[@TheKaffeeKlatsch]

And the sonar tech heard faint sounds of Abba playing over his headphones.

[@victorselve8349]

Nice

[@kromegal_xe6594]

I guess they heard the faint sounds of Sabaton "Primo Victoria"

[@scottN1980]

He was dancing to it instead of reporting it

[@leonvrethem9762]

Han vet vår hemlighet Fan

[@neilmacleod5371]

Yup waterloo playing just before torpidos were launched

[@kkfine5631]

The rivalry between submarines and surface ships is more accurately known as subs vs targets

[@britishneko3906]

subs vs pre submarine ships*

[@lassekristensen385]

Nahhhhh the subs worst enemy are destroyers with depth charges ... this is a true nightmare for any sub to be hunted down.. also the destroyer can sail much much faster than a submerged sub,.

[@randominternetguy88]

@@lassekristensen385 depth charges are history. supercavitation torpedoes and VLS anti-sub missiles are where it's at.

[@lassekristensen385]

@@randominternetguy88 Okey interesting! I havent followed much in naval / sub tech since WW2. . . But im gonna look a little more into what you mentioned...

[@ISo404]

This is in the same venue as the old adage "Military engineers build and deploy weapons, civilian engineers build targets" -Unknown

[@MrWasGehtSieDasAn01]

Small fun fact, the German navy had done the same. During an exercise with a US fleet, the German diesel submarine U-24 of the 206 class was only assigned a scouting role. The captain of the submarine felt insulted and thought that the americans would underestimate the capabilities of a diesel submarine, and decided to cross the "insurmountable" defense ring of the escort ships, fired a simulated torpedo fan at the carrier USS Enterprise, made a photo of the Enterprise through the scope and emerged right next to the Enterprise. Imagine how embarrassing it must have been to the captain of the Enterprise to have explained this to his superiors.

[@marcushenness6437]

Captains log..we..have...been.....sunk

[@TheRaidenLP]

Well, we Germans got a long tradition of annoying the US with submarines

[@bonda_racing3579]

Questions of the day do depth charges still work on modern subs ??

[@kettch777]

The carrier captain would have been fine. The captains commanding his ASW (Anti-Submarine Warfare) screen, though, would have had some explaining to do.

[@MrWasGehtSieDasAn01]

@@kettch777 You can't really blame him for that, modern German diesel submarines are well known to be extremely difficult to track down anyway.

[@vuk.3866]

US: *builds a 6.2bn carrier with a taskforce to follow it* *GETS SUNK BY SOME GUY NAMED BJORK*

[@whenyoupulloutyourdickands4023]

Yeah, that's why carriers nowadays are surrounded by destroyers to screen for any submarines. And really, in order to sink a carrier you have to find it first. Good luck doing that in miles and miles of open ocean. Not even carriers with their scout planes were able to efficiently do that.

[@anonypersona3189]

In fact, you could even google where the US carriers are. worldview.stratfor.com/article/us-naval-update-map-may-30-2019 It's impossible to hide a task force of that size and the US doesn't even try because that's not the objective. Carriers are not supposed to be stealthy, there are supposed to be mobile airbases with more firepower than some countries combined. They are supposed to be "invincible" without dependence on stealth, hence why it's worrisome for them to have a sub virtually manage torpedo shots. Make no mistake, one of the best weapons on earth is a US carrier not too many things can compare.

[@ShneekeyTheLost]

@@anonypersona3189 Keep in mind that the incident happened 14 years ago. USN has shifted doctrine ever so slightly in the intervening time to accommodate this. Specifically, the Virginia class attack submarine. It is explicitly designed to find and intercept other submarines, in addition to hunting down surface vessels. Obviously, operational deployment parameters are going to be classified, but I'd be shocked if every carrier group didn't have at least one or two looking after them beneath the waves by now.

[@abhiramplal7214]

Lmao

[@archiearevalo5648]

Recently a chinese sub near the us carriers undetected until the subs showed up to tell us we are here hehe

[@robertmuller1276]

And the great thing is that the whole submarine comes in a flat pack and can be put together with a single Allen key!

[@iamjimgroth]

Robert Muller Which we also include in the package.

[@manhoosnick]

LOLLLL good one

[@petlahk4119]

#KSP

[@dr.crentist3155]

Easier than furniture from IKEA

[@iamjimgroth]

Dr. Crentist I'm from Sweden. We are born with the ability to build IKEA furniture in our sleep.

[@SoudipanMaity]

Swedish sub: Gotcha! US Ship: But, but,... I wasn't ready!

[@youarepredictable]

LOL. NO...just no. I am a submariner and have been part of these operations many times. When we(the US Navy) engages in friendly war games/ops with ally/friendly nations, especially their submarine forces, we significantly hamper our own capabilities, our own operating parameters, our own tools/tactics/techniques we will use. This is well known and well understood by anyone with even an ounce of experience in these matters. If we did not, our allies would almost never have a chance to execute a successful attack our our craft. We used to do, and still do on some occasions, and "even" fight you might call it, and it is never even close. The only way this sort of thing ever happens with ally navy ops, especially countries like Sweden, is when we basically tie our hands behind our backs for the the exercise.

[@morbidcuriosity163]

US drops the Bomb Japan: Nani?!

[@Carbonracer1]

@@youarepredictable you have a copy paste problem

[@zippyparakeet1074]

@@youarepredictable what's even the point of a military exercise if you don't even simulate an actual fight; by your account anyway. Wasting taxpayer dollars?

[@misterpotato427]

@@zippyparakeet1074 he's probably not a real submariner

[@gabsolej9802]

The swedes always surprise me with their ingenuity and creativeness

[@zackcarl7861]

Ya because they don't have boring schools like ours

[@Mc_Anodyne]

@@zackcarl7861 actually we do the only difference is that were free and almost no limits and have fun..

[@tobiasandersson4953]

@@Mc_Anodyne we’ll see how long that will hold..

[@DlcEnergy]

yeah... i remember being so surprised at each big minecraft update back in the day too.

[@patriotgameplayer6020]

@ Zack Carl, yeah! They have good programs in education. Here in the US, middle schoolers eat Tide Pods. Then to get to college, you need to survive mass shooting in high school. After college, you need to work your butt out 10 to 15 years to pay your student loan. When you retire, the government will still try so hard to get its hand on your pension.

[@BERTAN3000]

USA: sweden can we borrow your high tech sub so we can learn how to destroy it? Sweden: Yeah sure!

[@ancient_gamerr]

We're the Canadians of Europe :D

[@klozzet4468]

LOL

[@V4nh4K3ttu]

They have new ones in production now. These are old tech.

[@eleethtahgra7182]

Its...good actually. Upgraded diesel tech defeat nuclear tech. Then the US will try to come up with method or tech to defeat the Swedes. Later the Swedes or someone else will try to come up with method or tech to defeat the upgraded US ships. Thats how, I think, European nations advances itself through the medieval ages faster than the Middle East n the East, through military conflict n competition without destroying themselves. Furthermore, competition in stable n peaceful (relatively speaking) environment will, hopefully, further advance various discovery. Hopefully, these discoveries will reach civilian level and thus make the overall technology enjoyed by the population increase.

[@hotforteacher7540]

USA: Go ahead sink one so we can destroy your whole nation. We'll trade a single Carrier for your Country.

[@joemama-mk4zz]

6.2 billion dollar aircraft carrier vs 1 buildable Ikea submarine

[@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial]

I'll mark it on your map

[@TriStAn-zi5gc]

Astuteous Maximus your hit zone stuff is irrelevant as the submarine went out to attack the ships. And the only traget the sub would be able to give is the moment of releasing torps, do you know how long it takes to do so? Seconds. How long do the ships need to get to combat station? Longer. And BTW detection won’t work like you explained because of the fucking fleet above.

[@spearmintflavoured1546]

Astuteous Maximus it’s a joke

[@joemama-mk4zz]

@@spearmintflavoured1546 i agre with u

[@zeeskes2502]

@Preston Garvey Preston is the most annoying npc in fallout4

[@NE0MAS]

I’ve been in one Gotland class and seen the motor. As a tall guy I can say that the room for me was more than good. They have the motor underneath protection plates so people can’t just enter and take pictures. We were lucky, they were doing maintenance so the hatches were not mounted and we could see this beautiful motor

[@peterbenton2897]

When I was in the Navy during the Cuban missile Crisis in a NATO exercise , The Skipjack which was one of the first if not the first nuclear sub., sank every single ship in the US 6th fleet. I was a watch section leader in CIC and listened on a radio speaker. Bumper this is Skipjack, you've just been sunk. It sunk three aircraft carriers too. The Roosevelt, The Saratoga and The Forrestal.

[@Spherz]

Us: “invests a mountain of unpaid debt money on a $6.2 Billion Carrier” Swedes: *haha ship go boom boom*

[@0623kaboom]

wouldnt that be glub glub ...

[@P_RO_]

So unfortunately true. We dump trillions into ships which can still be taken out with weapons costing only thousands. Have you noticed that Russia has almost no carrier force and few large warships? It's because they know that in a major conflict all the warships at sea will be immediately sunk on both sides. No point in wasting your money like that. One guided missile frigate of today can do what every battleship ever built put together cannot do. One day we'll learn what the UK did with the Hood: big warships are just expensive showpieces that can't win wars for you, and they all can be sunk.

[@ahmadtarek7763]

@Troll uNeed bruh , either English is your tenth language or auto correct fucked you over , I could barely understand your comment.

[@P_RO_]

@kirk mcloren More like 3 minutes now with today's technology.

[@jejh600]

Aimad Tareksson same didn’t understand a single sentence

[@felixmich1]

1:28 "in warfare, this isn't a sound strategy." I see what you did there..

[@vasishtvasudevan4059]

Lol

[@Depreuz]

I used 5 mins of thinking why that was not a "good" Idea. then I lisened once more and heard "sound". I deadass have never heard a so dry joke in naval warfare

[@FrostByte112]

I thought the phrasing was a bit odd here. I missed it, though! :D:D

[@another1commenter770]

Loses war games due to too much PING.

[@DT-dn7dn]

Lol can you imagine the sub was like “ Eh, we got here already might aswell fire. “..

[@JustinsSoapbox]

1:27 -- "...but in warfare, this isn't a sound strategy..." Isn't that literally what it is, though? >.>

[@josedaviddelevante9211]

Bruh

[@stenarsk6877]

Literally 😂

[@UptownDegree]

It's still very dumb to go active

[@sterredijksterhuis8547]

bruh :)

[@parkermcginley3708]

Yeah the field exercise was literally conducted without access to active sonar systems, I have no clue why real engineering did not mention this as while subs do not use sonar to avoid detection, carrier strike groups absolutely do. The US military as a whole tends to stack to deck in the other team's favor in war games to find vulnerabilities that would not necessarily fully exist in a maritime war scenario but, could if say sonar was down by some miracle on give or take 30 ships

[@ejr_02]

What wins: the world's strongest navy Or: one sneaky boi

[@clu4u]

Elijah Robbins, da boi wins

[@novoeduardoac1248]

Elijah Robbins Imagine the psychological blow to the a country like the US if a war breaks out and lucky sneaky kilo sinks a supercarrrier? It just dawned on me how vulnerable assets carriers are! If I were secretary of the US Navy I would heavily invest in ASW capabilities to counter it

[@banosisbest4976]

Novo Eduardo AC wat? you cant just throw the navy away because of that sub ! and after that carrier would be sunked the sub would be dead anyway YOU CANNOT HIT 1 TORPEDO AND 2 AND 3 AND NOT DIE

[@Pansarglas]

Obviously Sweden can, since that is exactly what this Gotland-sub did. It premfomed multiple attack runs and then dissapered, without ever being detected by the US navy protecting the carrier.

[@danmarinelli2451]

@@Pansarglas while true um the us has 16 super carriers and if this happens Sweden would be dead as this would be war and the swedish military has no chance if it happened today that is byt it wouldn't

[@electricpants_abhay]

Sweden : Check out my new sub US Navy : lol Sweden. : skrattar du förlorar du *boom*

[@Infiniti.151]

😂

[@thechameleon2636]

Abhay Bhardwaj lol

[@susannewestlund2482]

AAAAAAÖÖÖÖÖAAAÄÄÅÅ Det är sant PEWDIEPIE

[@Brickcellent]

good meme

[@idyllsend6481]

omae wa mou shindeiru NANII?? *Boom*

[@twentyseven747]

everybody gangsta til' the water starts speaking swedish

[@jamesbarrett918]

Over the last few years, the new conventional submarines have been receiving a lot of praise in the Proceedings of the US Naval Institute. We have learned a lot from them in war games. An enemy does not have to sink a carrier: it just has to disable it. A few torpedoes hitting the rudders and screws would work.

[@theshuman100]

its a carrier. they could just fly the planes back home while its stranded in the ocean

[@lordrevan571]

@@theshuman100 While it's stranded, in the middle of whereever it is, in hostile waters, yes this is a grand idea.

[@rey6708]

@@theshuman100 a carrier needs to be stable for the planes to lift of lol

[@taylorgarrett793]

@@lordrevan571 or they just land on a different aircraft carrier providing they can take off ofc

[@fiquri8745]

US: we have powerful sonar, we can detect anything Sweden submarine: *Crouch* US: where did that submarine go? Welp, back to work

[@darthrevan8737]

*must've been the wind*

[@OnlineFox]

Hmm them darn villagers again

[@DARRENTINOnz]

Dumb

[@mamufixie]

Lame joke

[@shepherdlavellen3301]

nah, the sub was just hiding in a box

[@milesblue638]

The Swedes don't have trillion-dollar defense budgets to squander, so they do things in a smart and cost-effective way.

[@_allegra]

See also: Saab aircraft. They've done some really clever stuff with systems integration to massively lower the forecast upgrade costs, while still being competitive. The Swedes punch well above their weight

[@garygrandy9443]

They got good equipment but can’t fight a big war if necessary because of very small army. Swedes should have sticked with conscription.

[@zoom5024]

@@garygrandy9443 we have conscription now again, it started last year.

[@balkygoat6799]

Lets not forget that one anti air gun m247 Sergeant York. It had a radar system to track helicopers. Well when it was shown off, it aimed at the public observing it as a potential threat. Result; stories were made that robots will kill humans!

[@scooterxiv3778]

Or do like norway make a 4.2b boat And crash it into a container boat by accident

[@csjames69]

An Australian Collins class sub did something similar during exercises around the Hawaiian Islands. The Collins class coincidentally was a Swedish design.

[@chriskelly9476]

yes and in that exercise the Americans even cheated and still 'lost.' Their ships and an Australian sub were supposed to play a game of 'cat and mouse' as it were and the Americans were supposed to turn off their sonar systems for a while to let the Australian submarine disappear, but they didn't. Rankin (the Aussie sub) still managed to evade them, disappear and then took photographs of their destroyer within torpedo range, undetected.

[@youarepredictable]

LOL. NO...just no. I am a submariner and have been part of these operations many times. When we(the US Navy) engages in friendly war games/ops with ally/friendly nations, especially their submarine forces, we significantly hamper our own capabilities, our own operating parameters, our own tools/tactics/techniques we will use. This is well known and well understood by anyone with even an ounce of experience in these matters. If we did not, our allies would almost never have a chance to execute a successful attack our our craft. We used to do, and still do on some occasions, and "even" fight you might call it, and it is never even close. The only way this sort of thing ever happens with ally navy ops, especially countries like Sweden, is when we basically tie our hands behind our backs for the the exercise. On an especially personal note, I was in the Hawaiian ops area and took part in these exercises and all the same stuff applies. Sorry.

[@Alan_is_here]

@@youarepredictable lol Stop commenting the same thing by changing the name of the places. Get a life lol.

[@youarepredictable]

@@Alan_is_here I didn't change any place names of importance to the story. You get a life first, bud.

[@kinchegayowie6167]

@@youarepredictable bullshit , every one is fallible , including the US navy and it is not the first time that a US carrier was taken out in war games by a inferior rated force. The kiwis took out the Midway in 81 in operation sand groper 81 off Western Australia and 420 sailors went hammer and tong at each other over the incident. ,in Pinocchio's disco in Perth and wrecked the place 112 taxis were called , i know , because i was there.

[@bloonspop5962]

That was a smooth-ass transition to the sponsor.

[@ghostly620]

Sweden: *I'm gonna do what's called a Pro Gamer Move.* USA: *You weren't supposed to do that.*

[@youarepredictable]

LOL. NO...just no. I am a submariner and have been part of these operations many times. When we(the US Navy) engages in friendly war games/ops with ally/friendly nations, especially their submarine forces, we significantly hamper our own capabilities, our own operating parameters, our own tools/tactics/techniques we will use. This is well known and well understood by anyone with even an ounce of experience in these matters. If we did not, our allies would almost never have a chance to execute a successful attack our our craft. We used to do, and still do on some occasions, and "even" fight you might call it, and it is never even close. The only way this sort of thing ever happens with ally navy ops, especially countries like Sweden, is when we basically tie our hands behind our backs for the the exercise.

[@scootergrant8683]

@@youarepredictable But we don't know if the Swedes did that either.

[@murphy7801]

@@youarepredictable whatever makes you feel better

[@youarepredictable]

@@murphy7801 thanks...accuracy in all matters and the facts DO make me feel better. Wish you felt the same.....along with SO many others here that have zero knowledge or experience.in this subject. You know....people like YOU. But like most people on here, that won't stop you from offering your half baked bullshit opinions based on less than zero knowledge. You know this to be true, but it hurts to acknowledge, so I'm sure you'll be back with a "yeah...but...." sigh.....

[@murphy7801]

@@youarepredictable that's why you copy pasted it onto almost every comment. That definitely says I'm not insecure

[@christionhunt6185]

This is why we have war games, to practice and find weaknesses in each other’s military. This was more of a success than anything.

[@dimitris_lev.8947]

No war games are for usa to scan if another ally have something better than them*

[@menotyu9576]

its also to make US sailors jealous that UK and French sailors can get hammered while the ship is underway. there was a incident in one of these games back in 09 where in a drunken brawl started on a British carrier that caused some pretty expensive damage. as punishment they were not allowed to drink for a month on board said ship. The joke was that the punishment was that Her Majesty leased the ship to he US for a month. Dark days indeed.

[@victorselve8349]

That's the right spirit 👍 Although it has to be said that they didn't really find a weakness in their military since pretty much every European sub is apparently quite capable of running circles around the US navy so that's just another one on the list. And I'm not only talking about modern Swedish and German non nuclear subs, that list also includes an older French nuclear subs and the first cases of the US loosing against other countries subs in wargames go back to at least 1981. I think the more interesting question is how well other navies can deal with those subs and if it is an US specific or a general problem

[@Ander01SE]

This was a triumph I'm making a note here: Huge success It's hard to overstate My satisfaction Aperture Science...

[@sethjansson5652]

Games have balancing

[@anzebeton1869]

I've known about the Stirling engine for a decade now and your animation finally cleared it for me how it works. The heat exchanger was missing from my mental blueprint

[@johno9507]

The Australian Navy also 'sunk' a US carrier during Rimpac exercises off Hawaii with HMAS Rankin, a diesel/electric Colins class sub, which is an Aussie built enlarged Swedish Västergötland class sub.

[@bighands69]

They did not sink a carrier they succeeded in the game that was being played. Too many people are far too naive when it comes to all of this. A single sub carrying out a sneak attack cannot sink a carrier that easily. The moment the sub fires it gives its position away and the ocean would become saturated with anti submarine warfare measures. The Germans had 1200 submarines active in WW2 and not even they could take out the US navy.

[@johno9507]

@Stormwern Ok Pauline. 😂

[@johno9507]

@bighands69 Of course they didn't really sink it, how stupid do you think I am? But a 6 round spread of Mk48 Adcaps would obliterate a carrier. If it's made of metal I assure you it can sink.

[@jasonbone5121]

I remember when I was in the Navy (my ships job was anti sub warfare, we tracked subs) and one morning I was just killing time looking out at the water passing by, when a suddenly a periscope popped up. Hilarious. I think we failed that day.

[@DD-ng3bj]

Jason Bone STG?

[@isakrags3804]

Jason Bone so you never Found out What it was?

[@heshiram1188]

D D Seems legit

[@arnmazing3156]

Well not every military personnel is a hero then. Every military guy/girl has the audacity to tell every civilian that they fight for our freedom. I tell them they don't fight they do it for a paycheck. Of course there are those real heroes.

[@Timbo5000]

+Jason Bone Dutch subs used to do that with Russian ships during the Cold War. The subs were known to be one fo the most silent of the western world and they used to pop out the periscope mere metres next to Soviet warships to spy on them. Subs are pretty damn sneaky if operated right

[@rakagoodridge448]

who would win? the entire US navy, **or one diving boi**

[@LNZT]

Hookseye tha fucking diving boi! And hehe i’m Swedish so yeah... ima end this mans whole career!

[@shutupnavikrant]

@@LNZT hey olofmeister

[@edmondcristianrazmerita893]

I was looking for this comment XD

[@TheNorthHawk]

Missed opportunity to call it 'One underwater meatball'. 2/10

[@nothing9220]

My bet on diving boi

[@teaweedandbooze]

Subscribed after a friend's recommendation, "I can't be arsed," made me stay.

[@steveflanagan2508]

Same thing was done by the Australian navy decades ago. Diesel subs are always quieter than nuclear subs. That's why a US carrier fleet need to be so vigilant and includes so many layers of defense nowadays

[@drearyplane8259]

Talking about sonar: "not a sound strategy". gg.

[@Rdburnzy]

DrearyPlane8 probably was a pun but the word 'sound' is overused in this context and many others in Ireland, compared to other anglosphere nations.

[@miniz33]

if you listened to him he explained active using a loud ping is detectable..

[@Prodrentjet]

Sound=Good in Ireland

[@Sock1122]

US Defence Industry: "How will we ever convince congress to shovel even more money into our bloated military?" *War games with Sweden*

[@linusjensen1389]

time for more, we've made 2 newer generation subs ;)

[@sgtjonmcc]

I mean you're not wrong, kinda doesn't make sense not to if your military tech is obsolete unless you want to be defeated on the battlefield.

[@cascadefaf3120]

yep, the pentagon can't get enough of it

[@memeboi6017]

its a computer simulation

[@aoe9015]

@@memeboi6017 I dont think so

[@mozxer]

Swedish before: I kill men on tree Swedish now: we kill underwater while the enemy has 0 idea we are here

[@hamzaasif1664]

American : we are the strongest navy in the world Sweden: wake up the Vikings. its time '

[@jojop9609]

USA: We have the most expensive navy ever! Sweden: We just switched from wooden viking boats to silend metal viking boats. USA: Fk off Björn

[@slpr666]

Excuse me?

[@sciolist3109]

Doesnt björn just mean bear?

[@slpr666]

perc Björn means bear but is also a scandinavian name.

[@appleskum6520]

Firstly Finland Sweden is better than Russia and US, Finland created the molotov, and we they also won again Russia. And no we did not go from viking to marine, and björn does not simply mean bear, it does but it also is a name, just as björk, not as some calls it bjork, it means birch, like birch tree.

[@Skikorski]

@@appleskum6520 r/woosh

[@novemtigris3041]

The Swedish submarine has sneak 100

[@Leofred2000]

Nah, only 99 cuz of swedish meatball farts

[@davidegonia7030]

*see's numder of likes in comment is 69* Im sorry little one

[@SkyKidTommy]

After sinking the carrier. The rest of the fleet: Probably just the wind.

[@megadeathx]

Further proof that chameleon 100% is broken and the devs need to patch this reality before the next major story arc.

[@OrenTubing]

@@Leofred2000 no its 98 they make noise when opening a new toblerone pack

[@SephirothRyu]

Ah, the so-old-its-actually-awesome effect. Kinda like the Swordfish torpedo bombers (which were so outdated that AAA shells didn't detect when they hit them).

[@nuclearwarhead9338]

Correction. The shells overpenetrated the fabric coverings of the biplane.

[@paulcollyer801]

@@nuclearwarhead9338, same difference.

[@kfl611]

And didn't they fly too low to the water and the guns on the ships couldn't swivel down that low to fire back at them?

[@GAZZZA19790]

It was the Australia Collins class sub which is the swedish design. After taking the required photos of the carrier, they turned on the "I come from the land downunder" song across the radio system so the US could hear it through the water.

[@stereotype.6377]

I once heard an admiral say “if there’s going to be another world war, there’ll be two types of ships: submarines and sunk”

[@ruthswann88]

Submarines and suddenly involuntarily refitted submarines

[@nuclearsaturn3834]

@@ruthswann88 even better, those refitted subs dont even have to resurface for air!

[@Piyushrahi]

Submarines can also sink once their control is gone 🤦‍♂

[@danishkfd]

It must be donitz lol

[@somebodyelse5294]

thats funny

[@deadeye4520]

You gotta love Swedish military engineering. Always finding ways to get better while spending less. So clever, so deadly...

[@nathanaelmalm5641]

Then we let Americans borrow our stuff so they can destroy it

[@yourmanzach2307]

Nate Malm why would be destroy Swedish subs? We are allies

[@nathanaelmalm5641]

@@yourmanzach2307 that's literally what they said in the video, we let them borrow it so they could learn to destroy it

[@zoom5024]

@@nathanaelmalm5641 yes because the chinese have similair diesel subs.. thats why.

[@andrethe9540]

@@yourmanzach2307 maybe just in case sweden were to turn on us, we know how to sink their subs

[@ilordepic]

Us: Noooo you can't just sink our carrier it cost us 6.3 billion dollars 😭 Sweden: haha torpedo go brrrrrrrr

[@mahendraify]

I have not found better channel in content and explanation than this.

[@tommy-er6hh]

While the Stirling engine you concentrate on is remarkable, there are other things that added to the stealth - the propellers, the silent compressors for the exhaust pressure tanks, the hydrodynamic shape of the sub, and others.

[@dashofawesome64]

tommy14 the props are stolen from the dutch

[@williamthebutcherssonprodu227]

Who would win? The worlds largest and most advanced aircraft carrier Or One long metal boi

[@rzu1474]

William the butchers son productions One IKEA boi

[@mihailazar2487]

One long CHEAP metal boi

[@ls200076]

One long Ikea boi

[@atif1538]

William the butchers son productions ahhahaha thanks👌👌

[@dave1994jones]

Surface ships are only really good at projecting strength and in cases like the carrier, to provide support around the globe. Subs are made to be hunter killers.

[@snigdharahman1480]

Now we are learning millitary tech. Hell yeah!

[@jamesgunn5103]

Speaking as an ex-submariner, I would always back the submarine to get through to the carrier. No surface ship travelling at the speeds required for launching /recovering aircraft with catapults and arrester gear can use a sonar effectively and the escorts must travel at the same speed. I am not even sure that they man the sonars during flying stations. The physics of the water also gives the submarine other advantages. Gotland is certainly a very quiet design and your explanation of the Stirling engine was very clear.

[@dongquixote7138]

I doubt the CVN has organic sonar, but you can bet each of the DDGs in the strike group is monitoring sonar at all times. Plus the strike groups travel with at least one SSN. And ideally, Intel already knows what potentially hostile subs could be in the area before the strike group is supposed to be there. That doesn't mean a sub can't surprise them like the Chinese have done, but it helps.

[@jamesgunn5103]

@@dongquixote7138 and you can bet that their sonar is also ineeffective at the speeds carrier goups operate. It is just physics!

[@thedrunkcossack1705]

who would win? A *billion* dollar *aircraft carrier* or *one swedey boi*

[@tipi5586]

Depends on how many Japanese carriers arrived in a dark alley demanding the Swedey boi's girlfriend.

[@linnen_elm]

@@tipi5586 Y-YAMEROOO TEMEE...!!!

[@MeMe-tg3eb]

🇸🇪

[@aayushpanda9]

Skrattar duuu forlar du maneeeeeeeeeeen!

[@Mn12074]

@Pew die lie nie r/whoooosh

[@richinoregon]

Having been in the Navy and having as part of my job the determination of sound propagation, I find this totally believable. Diesel-electric subs, especially in shallow water (less than 600 fathoms) are virtually undetectable when on battery. Even nuke attack subs are very difficult to detect. There was one occasion on the carrier that I was stationed on that the first indication one was around was the periscope a quarter mile away. The biggest problem with a carrier vs. sub is that the planes make so much noise that it screws up the passive sonar for miles around while at the same time providing a big "here I am" to the submarine.

[@RealEngineering]

I didn’t even think about the self generated noise pollution aspect

[@Secret_Moon]

How does the Navy evaluate the Carriers in war simulation? Do they think they are their strongest weapons or do they consider them to be too vulnerable and inefficient?

[@richinoregon]

When it comes to a near-equal, I don't know. (I'm retired Navy and my job was weather forecasting, not strategy) An equal or near-equal could launch cruise missiles from either surface ships or submarines from over the horizon. If launched from a submarine, your first clue that it is on the way is when your radar picks it up incoming and you cross your fingers that your CIWS (Close in Weapons System) which shoots 3,000 depleted (non-radioactive) uranium slugs per minute, can shred it. Against other carriers and surface ships, it is back to WWII, who has the best tacticians, pilots, equipment, and crew will win. The thing about carriers is that they can project force an insane distance. When I was in the Navy, before the Shah of Iran was overthrown, we had some war games with the Iranians. When we were about a thousand miles from Iran we launched our planes, which had a range of only 800 miles. We cheated, we sent tankers out to refuel them so they could reach their targets, and then refueled them again on the way back. They never found us. They were looking for us within the range of the aircraft and we weren't there. I suppose that tactics like that are those which would minimize the usefulness of a diesel-electric sub. You just make sure you are where they won't think of looking. Which in the case mentioned in the video sounds like wasn't done.

[@Secret_Moon]

Really interesting information. Indeed if the Carriers are already found by the enemy, they are pretty much sitting ducks and I think there are few things you can do to protect them. I am interested in and read a little bit about warfare on the sea and ever since the era of WW2, it seems to be mostly a game of hide and seek. I guess it doesn't change much after all these years.

[@ColoradoStreaming]

I heard somewhere that the Russians have fake fishing trawlers parked outside our sub bases and whenever a sub goes in for a refit and to get a more modern 'screw' the Russians wait for it to leave and try to pick up on the new signature. I am sure we do the same thing as well.

[@krassilverfang5504]

Virgin US carrier vs Chad IKEA submarine

[@random17331]

US Navy: I picked up something... it sounds like world's smallest violin.

[@Tadokat]

Who would win? The most powerful and sophisticated military the world has ever seen or One Stirling boi?

[@Convergant]

Tadokat Sterling? Surely you mean Stirling...

[@Tadokat]

Convergant This is an engineering channel, not a linguistic channel. :

[@Convergant]

Tadokat Linguistics is language engineering!

[@icetea8946]

Not largest . China is the largest. And if reserve personal are to be counted. North korea is the biggest

[@Tadokat]

EpicHunter117 Gaming True. In terms of raw amount of units, the U.S. isn't the largest. Hell, even throughout history, there were far larger militaries like Czarist Russia during The Great War with 5 million (though many of them weren't actually armed due to lack of rifles). That being said, it's still by far the most powerful.

[@colintherookmain7419]

Submarine OP, pls nerf.

[@____-ld4uw]

WaterwayWorker W. L. No u

[@thedukeofnorton]

Get it into War Thunder Naval Beta Testing...

[@SuperVerst]

lol...I love it

[@gabeplescher8447]

amen

[@kcdiazWTV]

hahha.

[@RyanAndrewJones.]

Former submariner here... the diesel boat would easily get picked up by the MAD on a P-3 and promptly sunked if this wasn't a war game. War games typically enforce rules that make it very unfair for one side.... because its just a game.

[@rongeurtsvankessel1908]

Interestingly enough, 5 years earlier, in 1999 a Dutch Walrus class sub (similarly a diesel-electric sub) successfully penetrated the U.S. Navy screen and "sank" several ships, including the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt before escaping as part of the multi-national "Joint Task Force Exercise/Theatre Missile Defence Initiative 1999" wargames. So this is not the first time the US navy was left scratching their heads as for ways to fend off diesel-electric sub attacks, and the effectiveness of the Swedish Gotland sub would not have come as a complete surprise. That, and as a Dutchman I feel that we deserve some recognition for that before the Swedes get all the glory ;-)

[@UrMumSaysHiWT]

The nationality of the sub in this story seems to change each week

[@thepossum9396]

US:SWEDEN WHAT IN THE ABSOLUTE HELL!? Sweden: Börk

[@ZyXxOmAn]

Börk?

[@ironicdivinemandatestan4262]

Börk.

[@FlyLeah]

Kottbollar

[@insertnamehere1792]

funkyleah håll käften

[@pundex2984]

Börk

[@schumachersbatman5094]

1:23 "... the submarine will send out a sound pulse called a 'ping' and listen for the reflections. But in warfare this isn't a sound strategy ..." I almost threw my phone out the window.

[@MST3Killa]

Puns kill... be careful.

[@levihuerta9393]

I literally had a seizure

[@noneyabiznas3590]

Exactly! The Destroyers should have been doing that.

[@hawkdsl]

@Greengage 27; If you had, your life would've been so much better. #Killthephones

[@Godishus]

Ping? (anyone there) ... ... Boom! (yes)

[@dagraves]

They'd be crazy to put a carrier in the Baltic sea where these submarines would be effective.

[@michaelayliffe7238]

Thats why the Saab 93 are still sort after, they make things that work, good lesson.

[@muddaboosheet847]

ikea made submarine.

[@erikahl7934]

It was built by SAAB Kockums

[@ventureaddiction3246]

Erik Ahl r/woooooooosh

[@jonden1iverden7]

Shooting chair legs instead of torpedos...

[@Alpha-hi3jy]

Jepp

[@benghazi3754]

Knights of nee. But remember that those meatballs are filled with horse meat!

[@quantomic1106]

Don't mind me. I'm just here to read what all the top military experts have to say.

[@USNVA11]

quantomic1106 - Award for top remark in comments ! 👏🏻

[@keithlapere7650]

Ouch! Betcha that hurt the experts!

[@quantomic1106]

You sir are an expert! Why do we need military generals and military strategists when we can easily gather valuable battle plans from armchair warrior KZbin comments like yours? But hey what do I know? Silly generals.

[@rolbuch1449]

If you genuinely think the US military hasn't already figured out countermeasures or alternatives of some sort to these technologies that are heavily classified and will only be revealed 20 years down the road, you're out of your mind.

[@keithlapere7650]

So what does all this logic have to do with the shown video?! For what I have seen it was about a sub taking out a aircraft carrier during an exercise.

[@csanton3946]

After binge watching RE videos, my summation on this channels topics are mostly : Aerodynamics (Jet planes), Building materials, Energy (batteries) and Nebula, Curiosity Stream, Hover, Squarespace, Skillshare

[@tomnewham1269]

A Royal Australian Navy Collins class submarine did the same thing. Yes the Collins class is based on the Gatland however its propulsion system is diesel electric with 3 diesel engines. So I put the Gatlands stealth more to do with the overall design more so than its propulsion system.

[@AboboKing]

It's only cheap because it requires you to build the whole thing, and at the end you find several leftover pieces that make you forever worried it's going to fall apart. The Swedish love doing this to people.

[@monksapollo735]

Fry Szopen it's an ikea flat packed joke

[@seigeengine]

It's a weird joke to make. Ikea furniture is designed to be trivial to put together such that any moron could do it. This doesn't make sense in the context of a submarine.

[@Naf5000]

@seigeengine: IKEA flatpack is usually cheaper than a pre-assembled equivalent partially because it's so simple to put together that that work can be foisted on the consumer.

[@Mira_linn]

seigeengine not nessesarily the Swedish army like this idea of cheap and easy to build and repair equipment. you see it with the Saab fighters they are made in such a way thay can be,taken apart and repaired with stuff you find in a hardware store.( or at least as mutch as possible) this is due to the positioning of Sweden and the lessens learned in the finish Russian war. Sweden do expect to be attacked by a far stronger enemy and having to fight a gorilla war.

[@capras12]

Where can i buy one of these subs? IKEA?

[@iangeorge5079]

USA: We have the most modern and expensive technology known to man and nobody can sink our navy Some swedish boi: hold my beer

[@berengerchristy6256]

I thought the sub achieved what it did because of two things: it knew the route the carrier group was taking and so could position in advance, and it just parked there, not moving. IRL it wouldn't be able to do this because an enemy wouldn't be privy to the fleet's movements. If they were, it would be a SIGINT win, not a win for the sub. Seems like this was blown out of proportion to me

[@abdelrahmantarek2531]

@steve crawford woah your ego is just radiating

[@billh1337]

Hold my meatball*

[@zoom5024]

@@berengerchristy6256 It probably knew the general area the carrier group were in, just like in a real scenario. Otherwise the sub wouldnt have been seen as such a large threat, the US leased it and it's crew for 2 years after all.

[@fisherking7798]

@@berengerchristy6256 A carrier group isn't really what you'd call inconspicuous, it's kinda hard to miss and projecting where it's going isn't really hard either since it takes a long time to change course, so all you need is a small boat or plane to spot it. Of course the opponent wouldn't be privvy to the plans but the route isn't that hard to find out.

[@dundonrl]

I was on the USS Momsen DDG-92 that sunk the submarine as well in that exercise (virtually)..

[@jeffbenton6183]

Another advantage of a diesel-electric sub with air independent propulsion (AIP) is that it can turn off its powerplant and rest on the sea floor (in relatively shallow water) making almost no noise not registering as a moving vehicle.

[@bighands69]

If the carrier fleet knows that the submarine is in the area they will find it. In a time of real war the carrier group would saturate the area with anti submarine measures.

[@AdmiralLj]

@@bighands69 Partly the reson that they desided to lease the sub was, they could not find it, the gotland class dureing excorsises in the Medeteranian, avoided detection for days, and WAS NOT found by for example by resting on the sea floor, whit several Nato Navies seartching whit Activ sonar.

[@bighands69]

@@AdmiralLj In a major war individual submarines like that would be useless and the moment they opened fire they would get destroyed.

[@SvenskRiddare]

The answer is that the Stirling engine cylinders work opposite each other and the vibrations are cancelled out. Totally. You can put a coin on the side on top of it and it will not fall over. That is why it is so silent.

[@vapen_hem]

And for people who don't know. It's the same technique used in noise cancelling headphones

[@rrs_13]

@@vapen_hem Noise canceling headphones have opposite cylinder engines??! 0.o

[@vapen_hem]

@@rrs_13 🤦‍♂️

[@rrs_13]

@@vapen_hem :D

[@marschma]

@@rrs_13 no, theres tiny swedish submarines built inside the headphones. if you listen closely you can hear their crews drink met and sing viking songs.

[@joakimwohlfeil]

The trick is that the whole sub can be dismantled and divided into flat packages with an L-wrench. Impossible to trace under attack, and they can then assemble it anywhere in the world in just minutes. The problem is that there will always be one missing bolt in every package that can only be found in the nearest IKEA store............ But as long they have access to IKEA spare parts they Swedish submarines are deadly.....

[@pete13wade]

That was really good, I started off speed reading your post, and had to back track. I knew I missed something, when I slowed down the 2nd time I really Laugh-Out-Loud. "Those Swedes sure know how to put in almost everything you need" Philip J. Fry

[@fredgarvinMP]

Most underrated comment out of the 8k or so on this video. Freakin hysterical!!!

[@ArariaKAgelessTraveller]

i love this comment

[@attackhelicopter7403]

you need to consider, they now pack allways spare bolts in the packages, take this Murrica!

[@joakimwohlfeil]

Attack Helicopter ́ // Damn it !! Then the vikings will be unstoppable once again. But this time they will come submerged ;-)

[@nobodyknows3180]

5:30 "these instruments" shows a photo of SOKS, designed to detect wakes (density variations) left by submarines. There was a report that they had a device (not the SOKS shown) that was able to detect trace amounts of radionucleotides "left behind in the path of a nuclear submarine" (but can't be differentiated by those in normal seawater) and that they were supposedly able to detect and track several of their own ships, and they claimed to have used it to track one of our submarines, but experts are skeptical - there are other techniques the Russian subs were employing at the time, and it is likely one of those other techniques was what worked to enable them to track our submarine.

[@thenotflatearth2714]

I think the US navy got a bit CARRIED away

[@yelectric1893]

Funny joke

[@Hairysteed]

*BA-DUM TSS*

[@rootbeer4888]

whos paying for this...

[@karinh.eriksson1353]

The Spherical Earth hahah

[@Robert-nz2qw]

Yeah but you need to respect the Swedish navy

[@LNgKhoi]

"The ping isn't a very sound solution." Is this pun intended?

[@FrostByte112]

Yes, most likely

[@jasonalbert6251]

“In warfare, this isn’t a sound strategy.” Sonar: uses sound to detect enemies Strategy: _SOUND_

[@user-ym3po9gu4e]

They carefully approaching US carrier, even whispering while talking to each other

[@kevinmagron9032]

Sweden, small country and world class in surprisingly many stuff.

[@Petri_Pennala]

They are gays

[@kevinmagron9032]

@Kekistan Shitlord how about that Sweden has 2nd best internet connection, one of the best commute and traffic system, one of the countries with least environmental issues compared to population and size, one of the smallest countries that has influenced the entire world with big companies such as IKEA, Volvo, Scania, ABB.

[@kevinmagron9032]

@@Petri_Pennala best u could come up with?

[@JudgeCraven]

Kevin Magron once they begin letting immigrants in they will end up just like any other banana republic

[@pengunootnoot4571]

I live i sweden its only in some citys that its many muslims in.

[@dave1994jones]

"There is are only two kinds of naval vessels, submarines and targets"

[@2adamast]

1943: 260 U-boat lost Submarines are targets too

[@vollelektrolysierer5773]

Yeah, WW2 submarines were rather submersible torpedo boats than proper submarines as they operated 95% of the time on the surface. Modern day conventional or nuclear powered attack submarines are something completely different.

[@dave1994jones]

Yes and how much allied shipping was lost? Also....over 70 years ago xD

[@danielr.l.mccullough600]

Adamast U-Boats are submersible toroedo boats not submarines. And they relied on being a periscope depth to attack, where they could be seen by the naked eye.

[@Rayden440]

Paradoxical Nightmare. It's not a submarine's job to find other subs. They will be sneaking around enemy controlled waters trying to find and sink enemy ships. Anti-submarine role is left to aircrafts and destroyers.

[@desklamp9594]

Me: Hates math Also me: Watches Real Engineering

[@EinfachFredhaftGaming]

This was more a video about the sterling engine than actually about how they sunk the carrier

[@officerchad1213]

Easy, they bribed the crew with great meatballs, and the US navy bent the knee

[@WhyWasItMyRealName]

Ikea meatballs ofc

[@skyeplaysgames6734]

Oh snap Ikea balls

[@Deevo037]

Has visions of the Swedish Chef cooking for US sailors. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGi4noiOa51-qqc

[@fulcrum2951]

Swedish meatballs ftw

[@masterimbecile]

We're not Italians! Unless you're referring to IKEA meatballs, of course. I could see the appeal there.

[@NunSuperior]

The whole submarine is assembled with just a hex key.

[@THEPHYSICALSPIRIT]

Actually it's Swiss Knife...

[@Rx7man]

THEPHYSICALSPRIT.. SWEDEN you dolt, not Switzerland

[@robertharaldsson2881]

THEPHYSICALSPRITF fucks sake how is Sweden and Switzerland often confused, are you acting stupid just to make us mad????

[@Robert-fb9wf]

but there is also a picture of a guy calling someone for help. if you find the pictures hard to read.

[@APsupportsTerrorism]

From this day forward, the Allen Wrench shall be known as the Swedish Wrench.

[@antran0696]

that was the best transition to a sponsor ever

[@Ajc-ni3xn]

I’ve heard of this, I, glad I got the hear the full story though.

[@cwp2175]

US: I have more power Russia: No I have more power Sweden: I'll just sneak by. I really don't want to be a part of this

[@manictiger]

China: Hey, look guys, we made a mach 10 rocket, just like you guys did 50 years ago. Now we too can render all your ships obsolete. Wait, what's the argument about again?

[@TDrudley]

Good luck striking our sub with that mach 10 rocket.

[@ThunderhunterFTW]

lol

[@sarkhan_guy]

TurnipTwister 123 Germany: Hey, I’ll behave as fishing boats.

[@jcdutchman3556]

Dutch submarine: Let's "sink" just half of the US carrier battle-group while we make our exit, we don't want to make them to embarrassed by destroying the whole fleet, it's an exercise after all.

[@SkillsWithPhil]

This kind of stuff is absolutely fascinating. Thanks for doing what you do!

[@thomasnugent6445]

Canadian O'Boats, Oberon class, were doing this in the late 70's, sneaking up their hind end & sending out a flare (Torpedo run) then slivering away. they were Diesel Electrics..

[@austinjames9633]

Also I'd like to add during war games carrier strike groups get told to maintain this slow nice pre planned path for safety and the benefit of crew training. A carrier strike group will move so quick in an actual war time scenario a nuclear powered submarine submerged will have a hard time keeping up and maintaining its distance of detection to get a successful keel shot.

[@youarepredictable]

BINGO....you've hit on just one aspect that no one else here seems to know: I am a submariner and have been part of these operations many times. When we(the US Navy) engages in friendly war games/ops with ally/friendly nations, especially their submarine forces, we significantly hamper our own capabilities, our own operating parameters, our own tools/tactics/techniques we will use. This is well known and well understood by anyone with even an ounce of experience in these matters. If we did not, our allies would almost never have a chance to execute a successful attack our our craft. We used to do, and still do on some occasions, and "even" fight you might call it, and it is never even close. The only way this sort of thing ever happens with ally navy ops, especially countries like Sweden, is when we basically tie our hands behind our backs for the the exercise.

[@anonymousdevildog1406]

Thankyou to our friends in Sweden for teaching us about our vulnerabilities and helping us get that vulnerability worked out. Together we are stronger.

[@wx4726]

and soon we will be gone, if catch my drift ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@danielnilsson5384]

No,thank you 4 saving our sorry as during ww2.THANK YOU and your family and relatives.THANK YOU!!.And yes,us rocks!!

[@wsmcke]

@@danielnilsson5384 So does Sweden, it rocks!!!! :)

[@smixen6590]

Anonymous Devil Dog hello, i am swedish

[@erikhjortsater5461]

Anonymous Devil Dog you’re welcome ;)

[@CorvusCorax.]

USA: "Our navy is invincible!!" Sweden: "Hold my beer..."

[@fathfez7991]

PewDiePie : "Hold my Subscribers"

[@angrytom1923]

Hold my drinking horn...

[@wanyekest5766]

Hold my mjöd

[@niceguy1891]

Hold my mjölk

[@kelanakelana7998]

Its atcually invincible no navy could conventionaly defeat it the carriers lost can be replaced in months and the sheer number of the US navy ships and advanced system they use is hard to defeat

[@stevendern2543]

I saw one of those on the Mississippi, way up near La Crosse, Wisconsin. Norsemen up their old tricks again.

[@sushantmanandhar1387]

Swedish submarine: Omae wa mou shindeiru?

[@tiko8239]

Who would win? 1. One of the biggest military forces in the world. 2. A viking submarine.

[@peter12246]

3. Afghanistan goat herders

[@flanker2724]

Tobias Lilliehorn 4.Vietnamese Rice Farmers

[@gigachad-jh1dh]

5. Some nuclear Russian boi

[@gigachad-jh1dh]

7.some kamikaze boi

[@baronvonbeans9887]

*hinga dinga durgen, outsider*

[@DerSolinski]

I really don't want to be the guy who had the task to tell the carrier captain: "Uhm Sir it appears we've been sunk... multiple times...."

[@jantjarks7946]

Don't worry, the French submarine Saphir managed to wipe out half a carrier group, before it ran out of torpedoes and weapons to sink the remaining half. The Swedes can't compete with that result. The German built submarine from the Argentinians didn't sink the British carrier during the Falkland war due to steering cables being mixed up, the torpedo ran away. Else, the British admiral admitted, the whole Falkland campaign would have been cancelled, as the Harriers from both carriers were crucial for success.

[@jkraushaus1909]

Capitan of the ship- Aahhhhh admiral we have been sunk Admiral- What how? Captain of the ship- well is appears that we’ve been hit and sunk about 15 times by a cheep Swedish sub, oh and also the rest of the fleet has been as well Admiral- so you are telling me that we have been sunk 15 times by a Swedish submarine that’s cheaper than Chinese plastic! Captain of the ship- yes sir Admiral- well trumps gonna be pissed

[@jantjarks7946]

Daan, where is the Dutch submarine then? Baseless patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. Grow up. I don't care for countries, its a matter of technology, which, btw. the Netherlands actually do not possess.

[@atdtheband]

Daan Made in Holland 3 french firms in top 20 defense industry... one has it's financial headquarters in Holland and France (as a brunch of European countries) buys some ballistics from the deutch but that's about it. Deutchland ranks around 38/40 in most global rankings France constantly reaches the top 5. Also... Jeanine Hennis-Plasschaert hahaha

[@atdtheband]

Daan Made in Holland "your poor I'm Jewish" ; "google this google that" ; "take a walk in wala ghetho Paris" man I hope you look better than you argue! You sound like forest gump has fucking Tourette haha!

[@UrMumSaysHiWT]

This story is like the "US Navy VS Canadian/Irish/English/Scottish lighthouse", sometimes the sub is Swedish, sometimes Danish and other times Norwegian

[@paulcollyer801]

.... errrm, we’re a light house, your move

[@Z1Hellrider]

The U.S Ronald Reagan the largest aircraft carrier in the world costing near 9 Billion Dollars, surrounded with a full escort of U.S Battleships, including anti-submarine boats, was sunk by one Swedish low-cost submarine... they said they 'NEVER' saw it coming and never saw it going, that must be very shocking for the Superpower Nation ??

[@profpuffofficial2]

When you give vikings modern tech

[@Merecir]

Give? This was made in Sweden. Sweden have been building submarines since 1904.

[@cameronwhite4442]

@@Merecir surprised noone say its just a joke yet

[@Fredag123]

@@Merecir r/woooshh

[@lollylemur5041]

@@Fredag123 r/ihavereddit

[@haroldinho9930]

@@Merecir it’s a fucking joke