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00:00 Coming Up
00:51 Intro
01:40 Family Background
02:40 How Human Traffickers Manipulate Girls ?
10:33 Girl Explaining About Her Survival At GB Road
22:45 State Of Mind Of Ladies & Girls Living In GB Road
23:36 How Girl's & Ladies Are Forced To Intimate With Client
27:25 What Happen When Police Raid At GB Road ?
29:05 Like Movies Did Client Get The Choice To Choose Girl Of His Own Choice ?
30:04 How Police Help Her To Get Out Of GB Road
36:46 People At GB Road
39:02 Tricks Human Trafickers Use To Make Girls Come With Them
40:38 Disrespectful Behaviour With Clients
43:01 Picture Behind All these Human Trafficking ?
45:24 How Kiran Shetty Mam Help This Girl ?
46:50 Life After Escaping GB Road
47:32 How Much She Had To Attend In A Day
48:52 How To Get Out Of This & Stop This
51:08 About Clients
52:33 Outro
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[@divyanxh_12]

Maturity is when you realise that ... Strict parents are your biggest blessing ❤

[@SachKaSaath772]

Lagta hai aapko maar nahi padi bachpan mein, lekin aapko bacho ko maarna acha lagta hai.

[@SachKaSaath772]

Maturity ke naam par gussa nikaalo bachon par

[@divyanxh_12]

@@SachKaSaath772 aisa nhi hai bro marna alag chiz hogyi wo chaahte bhala hi hai end Mai

[@SachKaSaath772]

@@divyanxh_12 agar maar ke hee kisi ko samjhaaya jaa sakta hai toh apne maa baap se bhi aap debate na kiya karo. Maa baap ko bhi maar peet ke hee samjha lo. Boss ke saath argument ho toh boss ko bhi maar peet ie samjha lo. Ye aapka doglapan hai. Actual mein chote bachon ke paas power nahi hoti aapke saath fight back karne ki toh aap apni waha par chalate ho.

[@retrowaverydr]

Couldn’t agree more

[@tejasdavar5665]

Finally kisi ne to daring ki hai is subject ko share karne ki. Hats of you didi.. & doing great job real hit bhai log.. ❤

[@kavyaaslifestyle9899]

My personal opinion. Hamesha strict parents hone se zyada apne bacchon ke dost baniye, dost banke unko samjhaye ki duniya mein kitne bure bure incidents hote hain.

[@susmitakerketta8937]

Indian parents zadatar close nahi hote itna but abhi k generation wale jo parents banenge i think woh ban sakte ha dost

[@KhushalMehra-mm9ov]

​@@susmitakerketta8937 kitna brain wash hae tum logo ka ki hamesha ye sochna ki parents galat hote hae. Usa mae to parents close hote hae na to same waha bhi kyu hae.

[@MansiSingh-nm3gh]

That 150 people in a day is giving goosebumps.....Hats off to the girl who saves not only her life but also her sons...want to say girls please be safe be aware of these traps🙌

[@nanditapujari3300]

This is the correct use of using social media & platform for creating awareness about this crime.. Hope girls understand the reality beyond this virtual world of instagram and Facebook where they trap easily.. kudos to your team guys❤❤

[@AyushRaj-wd9wy]

This girl is stupid😅😅bas ye mabla ha😢😢

[@hemashukla4081]

I agree

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[@madhumitachaudhary9550]

Yea the girls understand and even parents understand that their so called teens boys visit these places.

[@talklikethat860]

Jis trh se ye lady us mahaul se baahar nikli h or ek achi life jee rhi h. Isi ko naari shakti kehte h. Aap ko or aap jesi hr lady ko dil se salute 🙏🙏🙏

[@FatemaKazi-hi2fy]

Be Bhai use bewakuf kehte he kyu ke ye 3 baar bhag kr bhi vaha hi gay nonsense 🙄

[@himanshubhola9167]

Salute to this lady and Kiran Shetty mam👍

[@AbhilashBhosalejames]

"HUGE" respect to maam and KUDOS to realHIT for touching this topic which most people don't even think about . 🙏🙏🙏

[@aruu001]

A big round of applause for u guys for bringing her , nd kudos to her she's strong woman

[@abhishekchattyar3452]

Salute to ACP MAM SHE BECAMES A GOD OF THIS WORLD

[@sachinsau5553]

U all 3 r doing a great job salute to you all 🙏

[@dennismitchell6809]

It's very heart touching how people get treated in this world...thanks for sharing this topic..hats off the whole realhit team

[@richashrivas7745]

Its really strange how a 23 year old girl can trust a stranger blindly......or 2000 rs m banglore ja sakti thi yrrrr

[@divyaa4459]

yeah...& i just dont understand why bhagne ke baad why she didn't go to police, hindi nhi aati to english me bhi india me log communicate kr skte haina...i mean anything is better than going back there. Kisi ki bhi madat le sakti thi, kisi ka phone leke ghar phone kar deti or something, kaafi loopholes lag rhe hain story me Either she is bad at explaining the story properly, or she does not remember properly, or she is too naive and stupid (sorry to say)

[@KushbuSharma-ll5kc]

Gareebi sab karate hai

[@realpreet1582]

Exactly 23 me itne bhi innocent nhi hote h smjh hi na paaye kya ho rha h ..

[@mohithroonwal]

I don't understand many things she said felt like she went by mistake but didn't wish to leave

[@lalitsunny1563]

@@realpreet1582 yes . Mujhe to fake lag rha hai. Agar ek baar us narak se bhaag gyi to banda kisi na kisi tarah ghar pahunch hi jata hai. Bachi thori na thi 23 saal ki thi. Don't understand. Baki rabb janda hoeya ki is naal.

[@anjuchoudhary3491]

Heart wrenching. But happy that she is out of it and living a hopeful life. Appreciate you boys for bringing real life experiences. I can see this conversation has quite moved you too. Please do more of these.

[@kakurathore2251]

I highly request to make more videos like that because it is gave us very good life experience 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@ReetuSri13]

I'm living in a hostel away from my home for my studies n this video is important for every girl who are not aware of such things... We also need to see the dark side of life, the harsh truth .।

[@jaihindujaibharat]

What happened there??

[@CharlinBist]

Becareful sister aaj kl ye log bhi high level dimak rakhte h ab ye log work ke name pr nhi piyar ka Jada dekar ldkiyo ko le jaate h or is Gandhi jagah bhej dete h so even you are in love with anybody don't trust them blandly

[@ReetuSri13]

@@CharlinBisti agree 👍

[@purvisinha4400]

true i also live in hostel,only thinking about all this scares me ,can't imagine what that girls have been gone through.....

[@user-yn7tn2rn5t]

Take care sister

[@GauravSharma-gw4wg]

*_I never Went to GB Road... aur nahi kbhi Jaunga Aakhiri Dum Tak...🎉❤😌Thank You Kiram Mam Dil Se_*

[@justinpatel7936]

Sare mard ese ho jae to ye kothe hi band ho jae 😢

[@GauravSharma-gw4wg]

@@justinpatel7936 Exactly

[@shubham7605]

Are wah tune to bahut mahan kaam kar diya gb road na Jake ..... president ko bolke tere liye medal ki sifarish karni padegi sale

[@nehamehrasachdeva6302]

Shi kha mard jate h tbhi khothe h warna ho hi nhi

[@GauravSharma-gw4wg]

@@nehamehrasachdeva6302 Yes True...

[@karannarang4403]

9:57 Moral of this line Agar koi bhi Stranger jyada Apna pana dikhaye to turant durrrr ho jao completely 😅😅

[@saumyasingh3569]

Thank u for bringing such podcasts bro❤

[@prathmeshsharma7628]

Salute to this brave women who leaved that line and started new life I hope she will enjoy her remaining life

[@Imazaz]

Good to see you guys taking stand & showing such a great msg to us 🙏🏻

[@harshitayadav-caaspirant]

Sooo proud of u brothers finally kisi ne is topic ko utaya and sbko aware kr rhe ho aplog we want more these types of podcast so tht girls will know wht to do and wht not to doo ❤

[@SandeepKumar-jn6ti]

Hlo harshitay ji kase ho appa

[@Amanveer_singh]

​@@SandeepKumar-jn6tilo bkl ek aur broker a gya apni behen ko bech jakar

[@justdinku9042]

Dumb

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​@@SandeepKumar-jn6tiBahan ch## tere ko kya karna h O kaise h janta h usko

[@Nishantbob]

​@@Amanveer_singh😂

[@rishabhpundir7311]

I want to do something for all these girls/ladies. I want to form an NGO or something else anyway. May God give me the strength and to do something. 💔🙏

[@KhushbuKumari-love1]

Aap bahut acha Kam kr rhe ho..Hume bahut chijo ki knowledge badha rhe ho jo hum jante tak nii the... thank u soo much tino ko❤

[@lokeshkalaskar1369]

What A podcast And Very Happy For This Girl 😊 So Strong 😊

[@enkvcreator3909]

Dil Jeet liya real hits walo tumhne.....bhout acha msg provide kr rhe hoo public ko.....huge respect ❤

[@Vikash_Thakur7]

Bhai you guys are so hardworking you always inspire me so thank you so much brother keep going and growing

[@priyankadagar9579]

So proud of you guys 👍👍👍

[@sanatan.223]

There prodcast is always hit and supper good Keep it ❤

[@user-uh1uk3gh9m]

Appreciate for the courage.. she said ask me anything i just wanted anyone else ever face this. Very dark information

[@pasbolaG]

I got a tears when I listen this story iss lady ki awaz mai dard th bhut jydaa literally mam hats of you don't trust people again mam apki life achi jaaye

[@AmritDhillon]

Her attitude towards life is pure gem..❤

[@soniadhonde2969]

Commenting as a woman:- I deeply question the intellectual capabilities of this woman. She was coaxed into leaving her parents and hometown, not forced. She was 23. I could have understood her stand if she was 10, but at 23 you definitely know better. People became parents at 23 in a generation before us. Secondly, unable to leave because of a language barrier?? Cant digest it. She could speak english, she said. Police in Delhi can speak and understand basic english. Even if she couldnt, the police would have arranged for a translator, its very common.. finding a kannada translator that too in delhi.. She had multiple opportunities to call her parents, evident from what she said, but she did not. No doubt she must have had a very inhuman experience, she would have been confused, frustrated, put down and not saying that what she went with is less by any means, but this kind of hineous act could have been avoided if she had used some presence of mind.

[@simrandeepkaurr]

Exactly what I thought! To me it seems that she was okay giving up for the sake of money even if it meant through her body. I mean she's laughing in between which is fine but narrating something this deep and terrifying shouldn't be this casual as she was in the darkest place for a girl. I'm myself 23 and i believe that i will do anything and everything to escape this situation.

[@meenusuresh8695]

In my village, there is a 25 year old girl who dont know how to use google pay (she is a graduate and married with a kid- not working). And there are plenty of women who can’t react when in trouble. People respond in different ways. And there is a 4 year old Lkg student who knows how to pay someone through gpay. We really can not comment on such things. She would have been in so much pain but couldn’t do anything. And laughing is a coping mechanism for alot of people who have experienced trauma. Even i laugh when I speak about the worst things i ve been through. Human psychology is complicated.

[@soniadhonde2969]

@@meenusuresh8695 she is smart enough to send money back home!! But she wasn't smart enough to use that money to escape?? Common!! I listened to this interview twice to ensure what I am hearing is correct!!

[@soniadhonde2969]

@@meenusuresh8695 having heard various other victims over a period of time, this particular story is fishy!! There's a full fledged documentary on GB Road, forgetting the name of the makers, but the scene there is not really like what she is talking about... The women have died trying to escape, and this one here ran away for days, for days, and came back by her will!! Given an option of providing service to 150 customers in a day (the math although doesn't sum up) vs approaching someone for help, which case has a higher probability???

[@swatisikhadas6651]

People from small towns are actually brainwashed by Bollywood and social media, but in reality, their conditioning is not done to face real city life. In short, they are just not street-smart.

[@Cricketx469]

Real talks first time earns my respect ❤❤❤

[@pratimashukla8962]

Leaving your town with a person entirely unknown without even telling your parents. That's FOOLISHNESS. Sometimes people get in trouble by ownself

[@dee_45]

Absolutely correct

[@soniadhonde2969]

Hundred times Yes. Hadd ho gayi bilkul hi.. and she was in her 20s, not a kid anymore... however desperate you are, you don't leave like that with a stranger...

[@pratimashukla8962]

@@soniadhonde2969 did you notice something....150 customers?? Seriously?? I should not laugh but that's hilarious I think she's lying in some places

[@sultrysmile4u898]

same thing it was shown in ai bhatts movie

[@jhornadeb6066]

She is absolutely lying on this subject which I feel.... Kahani mein locha hai😂

[@abbas5174]

This girl maturity level is just on another level...hats off

[@Ds.Divyasingh]

So shocking 🤯 really proud of this women 👏👏👏

[@WORLDGYYAN]

*There podcast is always hit and supper good*

[@rozergill6729]

I really appreciate you guys . . Salute realhits.. chak ke rakho mundyon.. youth ko bhut kuch Jane ko aur sikhne ko mil raha hai....

[@nikitakourav01]

you guys are doing a great job ❤

[@sonikori5038]

you guys are doing the best thing in world . we need more contents like this .

[@Piyushsharma-nb1rh]

Real Hit....you are the best ✨✨✨

[@the7days]

Hllo brother Aapki podcast sune Bina din ni gujarta!!!

[@sushilayadav4872]

I literally got tears in my eyes 😢

[@sonamchaurasiya9860]

Hat's off bhaiya...you guys are doing great job...🙇🏻‍♀️✨

[@Pallavi_batra24]

Heart touching story god bless her🙏

[@mintoojhataipeitaiwanyear2990]

Good work guys, keep it up, really appreciate your effort conducting this podcasts. and it brought tears into my eyes, why such people do and trap such innocent persons and take benefit. Take care and lot of loves to you all being part of it. Praying to god, take care of all in good way.

[@Samraaj_sanatani]

Gutsy podcast. Love you guys thanks for talking about topic no one is talking. ❤

[@SHUBHAMS237]

Salute to Mam... woh became great example for our society....lots of respect 🙏🙏

[@Monika.kanojia]

Aj tumne channel ne mera dil Jeet liya boys , this is the real motive of reality talks actually. Keep show casing such cases on ur show .

[@jesikasingh8402]

I feel so sad for this little boy who has not even learned anything about what life is and was being harassed so badly. Ashamed that how cruel people can be with little kids, Peace Out!

[@payaldadhich1603]

Same this breaks my heart💔

[@JayantaMondal-eo7zi]

Yes didi I am also 17 and feels sad for this😢

[@PRIYAYADAV-ru4bf]

Respect you all for this real life video. Keep it up

[@snehanagotra9394]

Hat's off to you bhaiya 😢ittni awareness k liye I m ur fan zrur milna chahugi apse hope so.

[@yadavkennelup6149]

Bhai proud of you 👏

[@priteshmaheshwari2390]

You guys are doing fantastic job

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You guys doing really good...❤

[@sunilkamble8790]

😢❤❤ god bless You sis

[@CrackedKraken]

you should donate atleast 60 percent of the ad revenue from this podcast to her

[@sanjanakumari6594]

Always apne parents ki baat mano and always stay safe

[@apsaraghatak4639]

Thank u so much

[@ivyimogene]

I can't believe any girl could trust a stranger so easily and leave her home without telling her parents to go away to another town. I think she is hiding something. She was 20 years at the time so she must have known about the facts of life.

[@sommayraj6310]

I was about to say same thing , 23 is a mature age to think this , my friends are CAs at 21 . I m in my finals and she is like 23 lol. She also says she fled 3 times and came back really ! in my opinion with 2K you can go anywhere this is so easy to reach anywhere in India with Hitchhiking you can go anywhere there are Dhabas to eat and during my exams i used to eat once only in a day for a month so that I don’t feel drowsy. I just can’t believe she started liking it after she did it few times she is clearly lying. Jis chiz ko tum dil se chaho puri kaynaat tumhe usse milane ki koshish karegi.

[@user-ys5is5ft1f]

Yes bro I really agree with you. .us tym ke 2000 to thik hi the jane ke liye

[@gurjar_king_1]

I wish I will be a police officer in Delhi police Respect 🙏 towards Delhi police Respect to you realhit Piyush bhai ❤ Shubham bhai ❤ Deepak bhai ❤

[@dilippatel265]

Good job RealHit. So proud of you 👍

[@dilippatel265]

Hope her family is okay after that long. Never leave your family particularly parents

[@abhishekkumarkumar8298]

Bhai aap bohot acha kaam kr rhe ho ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@shubhamvaishnav3033]

Salute h mem ko what a brave mem... And salute h Real hit team ko very nice and inspiring podcast great job brothers....

[@sunilk8126]

Good podcast

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Realhit always hit🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@anuradhachauhan6859]

Aap log bahot hi achha work kar rahe ho Hum log jaise ye samj rahe India Vikas ki rah me hai lekin ye Kala Sacha dekha ke Aankha sarm se jhuk gai

[@sangampandey9799]

Stunned with fear and emotions

[@npoultry]

Nice content 3 bro thank you

[@Amitkumar-qx2ol]

Doing great job

[@jaydeepkhairanar7135]

Just tears are coming

[@zakiesvlog1005]

When she said 150 clients daily😢😢dil mei lag gayi💔

[@mohabbatsingh5644]

And when she said 16 or 70 sale ke aadmi

[@gypsypunjabi9482]

God bless u dear ❤❤

[@video_Channel3]

Good job💯👍

[@priyachoudhary3729]

bhot hi saff dil ki or innocent girl h ye or iske jaisi na jane kitni h whan😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@heartheacker957]

Thanks you guys for this podcast

[@npoultry]

Real HIT 👌👌👌👌👌

[@mr_badshah9423]

Of course bro

[@SachinSharmaintown]

I really think that she is responsible for her this condition

[@princepoddar7678]

You are great Indian sir jai hind

[@honeysharma9121]

We are aware because we live in city or by watching crime patrol, reading newspaper, strict parents..etc. but she was from Village.... maybe she was unaware about the crimes that happen in real world .

[@Kabirsingh047]

She was talking about 2010 bro

[@honeysharma9121]

@@Kabirsingh047 dude even in 2023 u can find many families in 'some' backwards village who don't have TV. Truth is we don't know from which background she is coming from.

[@Rajashri.Kulkarni]

But she did say she read news about it

[@shivamjani9591]

Podcast with prof.dharmendra Sharma...he is very good in spritual, astrology samdrushastra all knowledge have them...ane him teaching and speaking quality very nice

[@DeepTi584]

Bhai bhut shi kam kr rhe ho ..bhut phel maine bhi socha tha asa chennal bna k logo s intract krke unki life m bare m janne ka ..but main ni kr pai ..but apka ye chennal dekhkr muje Mera sapna yaad aata h ..best of luck for you future and keep growing..or bhai muje bhi bula lo apne chenal p ek bar 😂😅. Realhit is actually realhit .

[@CrankyBarbar1an]

The podcast is really emotional. And I know you guys have good intentions, but it just feels a bit weird to have a sponsorship on a podcast like this. I really hope you guys take a look at it.

[@billu2016]

Ya it look weird but its been shot after the podcast so , not so weird

[@justinpatel7936]

May be vo sponsorship se is ledy ko kuch money bhi dede

[@CrankyBarbar1an]

@@justinpatel7936 true. But yk, it still feels a bit dishonest yk, profiting off of such an emotional story. But like I said, i do think that these guys have good intentions. I love watching their podcasts.

[@Ammy527]

It is so easy to think that you must have done this or that when someone trapping, Hats of to this women living this life🫶 Thanks to you guys for bringing this podcast up for youngsters who thinks they can get job easily through a person who is roaming around, Be aware guys specially people from poor family who think they can get work easily, be educated and get a official job with all the formalities, Main thing, Always listen to your parents and please try to go through your intuitions and vibes🙏🙏🙏🙏 never ever get into someone's emotional talks or helpful nature easily, neverr Thanks to Deepak, shubham and piyush 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 it's my wish to atleast do one podcast with you guys just for an awareness for such girls🤞🤞🤞🫶

[@thecoastalpanda1556]

With all due respect...irrespective of situation not contacting family the the worst decision. Whatever its is always keep someone trusted in loop. Shouldnt say but she asked for it( not opting family concensus, trusting somone in a day and having twice the option to go to police and not going to them.) How can you have these many number of basic red alerts kept unseen and freedom options not opted.

[@guptaji_shorts]

Bhagwan na kre lekin kbhi aap aisi situation me unki age me rhoge to kuchh nhi rhta dimaag me. Unki situation ko aap samajh bhi nhi skte. It's very easy to judge by sitting here safely .

[@RELATBLETOCS]

I thought the same but we can't assure about his flow of thoughts is she really a childish at that point of time or not

[@pratimashukla8962]

​@@guptaji_shortsdimag me kuch nhi rhta kya mtlb koi itna bhi dumb nhi hota please bina parents ko btaye kisi unknown ke sath Thousands of kilometer travel kr jana itna childish koi kaise ho skta hai Bhai??

[@soniadhonde2969]

Completely agree with you on this!

[@ashieashie9200]

Seriously she seems dumb enough to

[@honey_33]

really thanks a lot bhaiya log ki aapne itna accha kam kar rhe hai .. and indian media se bhi accha work kar rhe hai...or sacchai dikha rahe hai bilkul sidhi aur saf bat karte hai ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@vaidehikaushik2332]

Respect for this lady kudos ❤

[@99vyom]

@shubham I love listening to your and your team podcast, just want to tell you that I think I saw you with your mom in DLF mall Noida today in Mr. DIY store, please confirm if you were there.

[@Swapnil7270]

Yup he was there!!

[@arnav1508]

Bro didn't even hesitated ☠️🗿 0:01

[@sanu9827]

App ki podcast sune Bina rat Nehi gujarta❤

[@prabhakarpatil3369]

Salute to you brothers for this video. It may help the young generation to think n decide their safe future.

[@manojbishtvlog8537]

Bro your content is always best.

[@latikakassotia7299]

Good to see such podcasts.

[@MohanSingh-tt7wm]

Sister God bessling you

[@divineyogacentre7125]

Great 👍 God bless you all

[@sommayraj6310]

I was about to say same thing , 23 is a mature age to think this , my friends are CAs at 21 . I m in my finals and she is like 23 lol. She also says she fled 3 times and came back really ! in my opinion with 2K you can go anywhere this is so easy to reach anywhere in India with Hitchhiking you can go anywhere there are Dhabas to eat and during my exams i used to eat once only in a day for a month so that I don’t feel drowsy. I just can’t believe she started liking it after she did it few times she is clearly lying. Jis chiz ko tum dil se chaho puri kaynaat tumhe usse milane ki koshish karegi.

[@bhawnaaaaa]

True I felt the same thing

[@kumarianjali8981]

10 saal purani baat hai ye, dialogue bazi nahi hoti, kuch log itne innocent hote hain unko pata nahi ki unke saath kya ho raha hai or kya nahi, Aaj kal k baccho ko sab pata hota hai, uss time nahi pata hota tha 23kya 30 ki lady ko bhi raste mein chod jao to wo kahi na ja paye aisi ladkiyan Aaj chahe na ho par Aaj bhi kaiyo ki mummy aisi hoti hain jinhein agar sadak par chod to gum ho jay, wo to doosre state mein uppar se language different

[@tarun009]

@@kumarianjali8981 bhai esa lagta he ki vo vha se bhagna hi ni chahti thi

[@itzzzzi2]

@@tarun009yah I felt the same way. Most likely she is dire need of finance, sacrificed her dignity. Additionally, language barrier ends her half of journey

[@zerinrahman610]

Right

[@Lisabegooddogood]

You may be the wisest, smartest personality but sometimes there are situations that push you unknowingly into deep shit and then you wonder how did it happen.

[@vishuchoudhary5700]

That’s so true I felt really bad after reading comments like is ladki me deemag nahi hai nobody understands that she was from very small town How innocent she must have been