GTA San Andreas - In-Depth Analysis of Smoke

[@muvdafukupouttahere]

I think we can all agree that neither Smoke nor Ryder had any intention of betraying their families. Tenpenny's just that much of a manipulative bastard who would try anything to instigate conflict between the gangs. Smoke had no other choice and Ryder was easily convinced. Pretty sad when you think about it. CJ killed his childhood friends for nothing.

[@gamerlogic3599]

So, tenpenny and Pulaski are a bunch of m*********?!

[@aronbirawa4475]

Well Smoke got many choices but he didn't take it, smoke and Ryder never think long about what happened next

[@SuperDuperNick]

That’s why Tenpenny is the main antagonist of the game

[@antz97]

muvdafukupouttahere like smoke said himself “you put a gun to a brothers’ head, brothers’ gonna do what he’s told, no matter if he’s a fool or wise man.” Thats straight facts fam. Tenpenny messed up our favourite crew with money and power smh

[@MrZahsome]

Honestly, I don't even think Rockstar originally intended for Ryder to be part of it. Which explains why there's literally no lines mentioning him AFTER the betrayal happened and he was just simply killed off out of nowhere with no cutscene no lines nothing, just blew up in a boat.

[@IMNTV]

*CJ Sweet Ryder and smoke walk into an ammunation* Gun guy: what would you tough fellas like? Cj:I'll take a desert eagle gun guy Ryder: I'll take a desert eagle like his Sweet: eh lemme get an AK with an extended Smoke: I'll have 2 desert eagles a desert eagel long barrel An AK-47 with a flash 2 shotguns one sawed off and a Silenced pistol

[@IMNTV]

The Red - O - Ranger *SA Theme song plays in the background*

[@IMNTV]

The Red - O - Ranger YOU PICKED THE WRONG CHANNEL FOOL...EH EH EH RANGER ITS ME ZED CHILL CHILL!

[@averageyoutubeviewer6005]

You gay as hell man.

[@kramtimerboi1605]

Z3D G4ME really funny 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄👍👍👍👍

[@historianball2376]

CJ: I'll take a desert eagle gun, fat boy

[@stickman3214]

Things we know: 1) He the best there ever was 2) He was born big fool 3) He ain't fat he big boned 4) He'll have two number 9s, and number 9 large, etc... 5) He always pick the right house (Unlike other fools)

[@seithzakura5614]

Stickman and always follows the train unlike cj

[@blondevampier116]

Big smoke is The best there is the best there was and the best there every will be

[@theonlyplain]

And he is the 'Special Agent Big Smoke'

[@SparrowPlays.]

(7) When he go, everyone will remember his name, BIG SMOKE

[@shiroyasha7324]

Indeed. :) +Respect

[@rdxbhai007.]

Gta San was deep in storyline, real deep

[@bluetowel-reko]

@Nezuko-Chan Fun Fact: Ryder Wasnt Supposed To Betray Cj His Voice Actor Only Leaved You Need To Watch Ryder's Character Analysis

[@DontreadPimpBoy]

@@bluetowel-reko it's not "leaved", nigga. It's "left".

[@bluetowel-reko]

@@DontreadPimpBoy ok bitch

[@DontreadPimpBoy]

@@bluetowel-reko If someone correct you say thank you instead. Keyboard warrior.

[@DontreadPimpBoy]

@@zencloneee what are you talking about

[@chrisbeltran96]

Thank you so much for this I finally understand it much better after almost 13 years of playing this game :)

[@inggaming1278]

Very good vedio

[@carljohnson2194]

Then who?

[@gamingphone7201]

fucking gottem

[@MPmusicgroup]

@@colebrown8293 so who than lol? Weirdo

[@rudytrujillo4197]

I barely watched this and I have never been so enlightened in under 10 minutes

[@nosquidsid4680]

I just realised Ive watched The Introduction so many times but just thought Tenpenny was talking to some cop or something lol

[@dianagarza9988]

Tennpenny wasn't talking to a cop on the phone he was talking to big smoke on the phone .

[@yotuu7394]

@@dianagarza9988 No fucking shit sherlock!

[@dianagarza9988]

sucker 😠

[@reiniest]

@@dianagarza9988 That's how the internet works nigga, someone will always insult you.

[@hyper9984]

@@reiniest She said something very obvious and someone replied with sarcasm. I saw no insult there.

[@jordanlewin8460]

He should've told Grove that Tenpenny was blackmailing him.

[@busterthebear6756]

Jordan Lewin Smoke’s a coward and we know that so he probably was worried about what CRASH would do if he tried to expose them

[@seithzakura5614]

smoke was blackmailed indeed but the blackmail is also his interest... the money, power and drugs given by tenpenny was enough to betray his childhood friends and family gang... gsf...

[@sqirrelboy]

he also wanted the crack money for himself so it still wouldn't have solved the problem

[@movieshd81]

Money, power corrupted his mind and prevented him from doing so

[@048jayjambhe2]

But if he did, we wouldnt be able to play the game

[@davedarius7346]

That was dope. Tbh, I never understood the GTA SA introduction video completely until now. I never actually knew Big Smoke was even reluctant to side with CRASH but now I see it all. Smoke's character's story was well written in the game and in the intro. Too bad Ryder didn't get half of this same treatment!

[@jimross4574]

Dave Darius There's evidence throughout the game about Ryder. Ryder was easily manipulated. I thought they did a good job with the 4 OG's in grove street family.

[@uncleruckus714]

Originally Ryder was meant to die in the ambush during the Green Sabre mission where CJ found out Big Smoke betrayed him & The Grove. I thought it would have been much better & made more sense if Ryder died at that mission. He seems very loyal to GSF all his missions involved making Grove St stronger & he would have at least died with honor

[@carljohnson2194]

Smoke was reluctant first but later he saw the crack business would be a perfect way to make money and so he then had no problem in taking control,of GSF and betraying them

[@AndreyAndreyevich]

Uncle Ruckus, for sure. That would've been so much better and fitting for the story and Ryder's persona.

[@ye7170]

Ryder only agreed so Grove could get the benefits as they needed it... If it was for anything else, Ryder wouldn't have done shit for smoke.

[@isaacster5027]

I love how you are the only person besides me that acknowledges the introduction, it's such a powerful and efficient explanation of the game, a beautifully crafted short film for the real fans. Rockstar is great not only at games but at screenplay. As always, I love GTA and your vids on it. Great job

[@josephpietropaolo2767]

I never saw the introduction (played on ps2). Don't know how I didn't to be honest. How do you see it?

[@nsaavedra7274]

Yeah. Only you two, u are that special

[@Kacpa2]

joseph Pietropaolo on Rockstar's yt channel, GTA SA website or just by looking it up on YT. It was initially on Special edition of GTA SA on PS2

[@EthanBradburyVlogs]

They are great at poor character development in GTA and underpaying voice actors

[@ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106]

@DChief94 well Ryder was underpaid, so he left. Thats why Ryder was basically written out of the game which is really sad. If the voice actor stayed Ryder would most likely still be alive at the end of the game. This is hinted as cj never has any scene with Ryder at his death, unlike Big Smoke, who CJ talks to before he dies.

[@allykins1767]

I really liked Big Smoke. I thought he was funny and charming, and he seemed like a nice guy despite the fact he was, you know, a gangbanger. When I found out he was gonna turn out to be a villain, I felt so bummed and betrayed that I stopped playing the game.

[@sambridhathapa4313]

Its a lesson: dont judge a book by its cover. Smoke came off as a very likeable person while he was betraying his homies behind their backs. Taking CJ's help to do his dirty work while planning with Tenpenny to kick CJ out of LS and eliminate him as a threat. Toreno at first came out as a prick and was kinda a prick towards the end as well but he did not lie to CJ and helped him in exchange for pulling off stupid high risk missions, atleast.

[@ilay_ux]

that's exactly what i did when the game forced me to kill ryder dude... the send off was fucking horrible. i was so sad. the entire process felt soooo unfinished, the way he's literally invisible without any mentions leading up towards his death bro. i was like "wtf why arent you talking about ryder???!" like just no, i was hella saddened lol

[@thejuanandonlyjuan9323]

@@ilay_uxI was the same way until I watched the analysis of Ryder on this channel. I guess it makes sense that initially Ryder wasnt meant to betray the Grove, that's why he isnt referenced as a betrayer in cut scenes amongst other things.

[@thejuanandonlyjuan9323]

@Shellpox I agree. A death in the mission where Sweet gets murdered and CJ gets arrested would have been much better. Ryder goes out as a martyr and CJ has some additional motivation to kill Smoke, having lost his mother, his friend, almost Sweet and his own life because of Smoke.

[@swizzy8603]

@@ilay_ux he only died without voice lines, and he only died because the voice acter stopped working with rockstar.

[@d-riuz7402]

This video completely changes my mind about Big Smoke, C.R.A.S.H. and the whole GTA San Andreas plot.

[@SuperDuperNick]

That phone call with Tenpenny, I thought that was Hernandez on the other line, idk why

[@SuperDuperNick]

Its KeV3nSGaMing yeah I should have known it was Smoke. But when Pulaski said “so are we going to go get the kid?” And Tenpenny replies “yeah, let’s initiate the little bastard into the force” were they talking about Smoke or Hernandez?

[@LifewithJimmy]

SuperDuper Nick same I thought that was Hernandez as well

[@privateerbouncher9622]

@@RealKeV3nstill don't get why they killed Pendleberry, was he a squeeler?

[@420koolgamer]

Definitely Smoke... He forcing him to Betray the GSF ... The "Kid" is Hernandez first day on the job, he didn't know till later in the game...

[@napalmkitty6686]

@@privateerbouncher9622 did you listen to the news at the start of the game? They say that pendleberry had a bunch of evidence on them.

[@radioactive1014]

Also because the assassination failed Tenpenny tried to kill Sweet and Smoke at the funeral at the beginning of the game. But eventually Smoke and Tenpenny made a new deal in the upcoming missions.

[@99mrpogi]

I guess this explains why some of the opening cutscenes of big smoke's missions shows tenpenny and Pulaski leaving big smoke's house

[@zerocrashmurilo]

It also makes sense why the ballas try to kill smoke on the start I truly wished smoke didn’t die cuz he was blackmailed into taking the deal

[@thecoolannishatk.]

Really? So that’s why they blew up Smoke’s car?

[@1990maman]

That also explains the reason why Smoke stayed in Johnson's house in the beginning. He either knew he was going to get killed, or just didn't want to see the end results of his failure. Or it was another setup for the ballas to finally kill Sweet.

[@Paperkutchy]

@@1990maman That never made sense, Smoke being at Beverlly's house where Sweet didnt lived. Plus, why the bat? Why announce himself? Why just not shooting him the back? No, Smoke was in Beverlly's for something else, I assume trying to figure out who did it because he actually didnt wanted wrong coming to his homies. That why when Sweet gets almost killed Tenpenny dragged his ass and Ryder's to the green sabre. Why there's a dude that saw the Ballas coming during the party mission, some one who knew they were coming and warned the grove

[@ShinyWeezing]

Shit this the best video there ever was

[@josichstaler4909]

big smoke? nigga what are you doing here

[@martinrodriguez3856]

Just like it sais in the book

[@From96TilDeath]

Why, Smoke? Why?

[@trustyballs5147]

END OF THE SMOKE NUIJGGE RHAHSHJAF(R_UTWSTFWSTG{+

[@DaxMarko]

When he said that we will all remember his name, "Big Smoke", he wasn't wrong. Big Smoke, the meme fat black man.

[@MidnightMechanic]

Kinda bugs me that Sweet's and CJ's lines when he calls CJ up are different than in game, than in the short film. In game, CJ's attitude seems rather welcoming during the phone call, he seems sharp with Sweet in the film. Sweet also introduces himself "Carl to Sweet" in the in game call, and simply says "it's mama. She's dead, bro.", never stating to CJ to come home, because we can safely presume CJ is coming home anyway.

[@THERYDERPROJECTGTAChannel]

Its KeV3nSGaMing Damn now I finally understood the short movie better than ever before. Thank you.

[@kramtimerboi1605]

I have seen your videos of smoke and Ryder survived I think they are pretty good smoke is still eating his two number 9s and Ryder is still smoking his wet sticks

[@puttankinamall1229]

When I was younger, I though Tempenny was talking to Hernandez because he was using the word "boy" due to the fact that Hernandez was more younger than Tempenny and Pulaski. But now after watching this video, I realized it was Smoke, and I know why. Despite Smoke looking like a good, old, fashioned old man (because of his bowler) he was young like Sweet, Carl, and Ryder (Rockstar makes a very bad job in making characters look young or old, but this was before HD, so I better not talk about this) This video is very interesting. I hope you make more In-Depth analysis videos of characters in GTA games

[@EthanBradburyVlogs]

He seems like he is 40 or 50

[@definitelynotapervert5602]

Big Smoke is clearly at least a good bit older than CJ, Sweet and Ryder. He just talks like them because he's part of the hood. This isn't a problem with Rockstar not knowing how old they should make their characters look.

[@HIPPYLOCO]

@@definitelynotapervert5602 big smoke is around 27, Sweet is around 29, and Cj is 24

[@ngrjordi2352]

@@HIPPYLOCO nah, Smoke born in 1958, Sweet born in 1966, and Cj born in 1968 making Cj 24 years old, Sweet 26 years old, and Smoke 34 years old

[@Rubberbandman0529]

I wonder now why Smoke was in the Johnson house at the beginning when CJ showed up. Was he there to finally kill Sweet himself since his other option failed & Tenpenny was forcing him to do it soon?

[@Deadsea_1993]

Yes

[@JohnMkrv]

Cooking number 9's

[@Paperkutchy]

No you freaking idiots. Why would he be at a house Sweet didnt live in with a bat instead of a gun and annoucing himself to Sweet if it wasnt CJ who'd show up. Makes no sense.

[@JohnMkrv]

@@Paperkutchy yeah makes no sense but he's using a bat because it's his favourite weapon

[@rockk9753]

@@Paperkutchy because he probably thought sweet would come to the house he grew up in to remember the good times he had with his mother, sweet didnt even move far that fool lives right next door to his mom so his mom obviously meant a lot to him so it kind of does make sense that he would come to his mom's house its also common to go and see what they can take after someone dies to remember them, have you never experienced a loss in your family before?

[@HoriaGeorge]

I like in the intro that you put the unused pick-ups from vice city.

[@gamerlogic3599]

Unused?

[@HoriaGeorge]

Sorry to respond that long, yeah, unused for San Andreas.

[@ienien987]

ALL WE HAD TO DO, WAS KILL SWEET, BIG SMOKE!!! - Tenpenny, 2018.

[@justadude9101]

Outlaw shut your dumb ass up and fuck off

[@Felipe_Castilho]

@@outlaw9889 yeah talk about spoiler for a 16 years old game

[@insaneballer63]

the game takes place in 1992

[@jk4675]

*1992

[@firen777]

You know the writing of the villain is good when your hatred toward Tenpenny extended slightly toward the voice actor before reminding yourself that he is voiced by the legendary Samuel motherfucker Jackson himself

[@dalaxdercrisper957]

Well not hate the voice actor, hate a character Tempenny

[@pequenoperezoso3743]

I’ve been waiting for this for so long dude. You are the best. And my actual language is Spanish, but I love all your videos!

[@isaacster5027]

Pequeño Perezoso de donde es? Yo Habla español y ingles

[@weirdo3625]

OH man i love to watch your Analysis they are so interesting and well done

[@patootie3529]

Your*

[@PS2Damon]

you'r ???

[@PS2Damon]

no shit dumbass he originally put you'r, shut the fuck up

[@banthachannel5132]

So he removed the background music

[@ZARAHAnimation]

I absolutely love these in depth analysis videos! Keep it up man, your good at what you do.

[@Megumi_Bandicoot]

2009: Studying for exams. 2019: Watching this video.

[@Loader2K1]

This two-part video is an interesting analysis on Big Smoke. Honestly, I've never looked much into the character of Big Smoke beyond being a turncoat similar to Lance Vance of Grand Theft Auto: Vice City. However, after watching both of these videos of yours about him, it's clear that he was placed in a catch-22 by Tenpenny. It was either kill Sweet and betray the Grove Street Families, or get killed by Tenpenny, or play the game, but get eventually killed by CJ.

[@Yuki_Suoh]

The rain in the background makes this whole video dark

[@Patkosi]

Loving these analysis videos!

[@dodoy24]

Yess waited sooooo long for this thx for your work i appreciate it man😃

[@anirudhrox8839]

i love how they show cluckin' bell at the beginning for an in depth analysis of big smoke..

[@Phantom5611]

6:46 I never thought this random phone conversation could very well be a conversation having to do with threatening Smoke to kill Sweet. Even after years people can still craft interesting and lore-relating theories.

[@daniyaaalx]

14 years, still the best game ever!

[@Romchikthelemon]

Tetris?

[@zerocrashmurilo]

16 years old now i think

[@CloverAnimations]

Not a game but a masterpiece

[@driv3563]

No, there are WAY better games than this. A classic? Yes. The best game of all time? Not even close.

[@driv3563]

@Viktor Kaljevic but that games will be forgotten after 10-15 years. But Half-Life is 23 years old game and still people play it and find new clues about it. So Half-Life is the best game ever!

[@Kanalsportowy1na1]

Another great video man! Thank you for what you did! Best channel;)

[@ozytastic]

You know honestly it's pretty dark and saddening to see how it all happened. Smoke was pretty much harrassed nonstop and was given no choice but to go against his friends and do something he could never do. He tried hard to find some way around it and couldn't. Made the ending feel a little unsatisfying at least for me with it being smoke just all "I didn't care! Money and drugs dawg, fuck the grove!" where it could've been more "I didn't want to do it CJ I'm sorry I had no other choice, yall were my homies for life." it just seemed like smoke didn't try to explain himself to CJ and apologize for it but rather just acted like he didn't care and didn't love CJ and sweet as family. Regardless it's still pretty depressing when you look at the whole picture. Smoke was threatened and forced to go against his principles and kill those who were practically family to him. Makes you hate Tenpenny even more as a villain and feel sorry for smoke as a bad guy.

[@gravityfel7896]

A perfect example of well-crafted storytelling where the dialogue of each character mean way more than they appear on face value. Thanks for this, I understand Smoke a whole lot more now, which makes the final mission of this game where you had to kill Smoke actually more depressing than it was satisfying.

[@dr.finnegan3949]

6:50 the money Smoke said he inherited and used to buy his home on Idlewood.

[@GtmNayan]

But Sweet lives in another house.

[@zeldasimp8847]

Sweet ,Brian ,Kendl ,and Cj used to live there when they were kids

[@isaacster5027]

Oh shit wait you're right that might be a plot hole you just found genius

[@matatosky]

Sweet bought a house next to his moms so he could remain centralized in Grove Street. I think Smoke gave them the right house to shoot at but it was mistaken by the Balla shooters, I think to give more credibility to the fact that Smoke didn't really want to kill Sweet.

[@sambo416]

Sweet used to live there and his house is right beside his mother they probably remember his old house when they used to try and attack.

[@potato_dude3796]

Rip big smoke, we' ll always remember u homie and clucking bell will remember u as their biggest customer

[@-neuro]

it aint no RIP big smoke. he betrayed his family and friends for money and power. busta to the end.

[@marnyhow710]

Dam this is deep. Smoke tried to talk his way out of killing sweet ✊🏾

[@marnyhow710]

@@equanimity92 yes 👍

[@reactiv61]

You are a true definiton of GTA fan. It must be really hard to actually grasp into this, although in the end I acted like "How in the world I didn't get it myself?" Thank you for all the hard work you been putting in, it's really impressive that this game has something new to show to us 14 YEARS after it's release. Just amazing. And also the fact that people still discussing the plot, discovering new theories (which can be proven). Incredible.

[@100KingDezzy]

ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS UPLOAD THIS DAMN VIDEO KEVIN!

[@memoire-30jm09]

Finally! another great video from you bro! Hope to see getting 100k subs soon. - From Philippines :)

[@pavlo1207]

Absolutely love your content, my man

[@PlayRPG]

Please do the story analysis as well. SAs storyline is actually a lot better than the hate it tends to get.

[@busterthebear6756]

Chirag Shah Id say GTA 4 has the best story but I do really like SA’s story

[@Baltimore_Hood_Vines_2014]

Hate? What fucking hate? Everyone loves it and rightfully so!

[@foreverbooked2964]

Please! No one hates SA's storyline. It's already one of the greatest games ever made.

[@derekgardner6601]

Chirag Shah You should check out the rewrite. It's pretty good. www.fanfiction.net/s/12231702/1/Grand-Theft-Auto-San-Andreas-Re-write

[@mdragarg]

So basically smoke subconsciously set up tenpenny's plan to fail by not doing the deed himself, causing sweet to be alive and CJ returning home, and once CJ was home the countdown to the plan's failure started already. Smoke was such a loyal friend that he caused the whole plan to fail even without knowing Edit: another theory of my own. We do all the missions gathering weapons for the Grove street families with ryder, who's already been initiated in tenpenny's drug operation. What I think is, none of the weapons we stole with ryder went to the families at all. All of the time, we store the weapons in some dingy location that's far away from Grove Street, and ryder conviniently always has a very suitable truck/vehicle ready for the heist that he says is from his friend "LB" who's never mentioned afterwards. Maybe crash was providing him with the vehicles so they could procure weapons for the drug barons.

[@nachiketpargaonkar8646]

You tell great stories without uttering a single word! Beautiful!

[@mrmook3001]

Honestly at the end of "reuniting the families" I'm pretty sure Smoke drove the greenwood thru the sign in a last ditch effort to get Sweet and CJ killed. He says the brakes were out but it does't make much sense that they'd go out so sudden

[@jerrybomcool]

Holy shit! All the years I used play this game for and all the things i thought I knew about this game, I never watched the intro and it was so important! I still wouldn’t have gotten it anyway even if I watched it, glad you made this video

[@agoogleuser6139]

Man that Vice City menu sound effect Gives me chill. Aside from that! You're a naive men a genius i subscribed you now..... Love your vids

[@aboutsoundandvision]

I really love the introduction, first saw it a few years back when I ordered the Official Soundtrack CD used on Amazon, this game will always be my favorite story ever, so many layers and well written (and acted) characters.

[@nekelaznup4644]

I just think my heart stopped for some seconds... I HAVE BEEN SO EXCITED TO WATCH THIS EHHHH

[@kramtimerboi1605]

My heart just stopped to when I saw the video Ryder depth analysis and I said Ryder you are the best homboy all over grove street I have 💯% RESPECT for Ryder he is my favorite homie

[@progaminghd3952]

YOU DID WHAT I ASKED FOR!! OMGGGGG THANK YOU

[@darthmal97]

Damn I don't know how I didn't see it like this before. Now I see this game even deeper than it already is

[@Kippzy]

Something about this overview of Ganton @ 1:15 makes me feel something in my heart. Nostalgia and just happiness I got to experience this game as a child. Can't wait for the trilogy.

[@houseofpoops3115]

Damn you are a genius

[@guzhengbydavidgeng]

Love these deep leveled analysis

[@GreatFox42]

I actually never pieced together who Tenpenny was talking to on the phone. Also that storm arrived at the perfect time.

[@Stevesbeve]

Ay kev i think mike torino is a real deep character that needs analysing or you might want to analyse the introduction cuz until this day not everything is clear in the introduction and not many people even know about it Best gta san andreas KZbinr .

[@arthurkurbedzis]

If only the childhood friends would found out solution for this case and confront the enemy of their own.

[@douglasredfield14]

man you are the sherlock holmes of san andreas seriously man if a person puts his mind into things he can achieve much you are the living example of this quote keep up the great work smoke is san andreas history

[@joeylatz7611]

Of the most manipulating characters of all time. Gotta give credit to rockstar when it’s due they really perfected this character in particular. You love him and hate him at the same time. Smoke comes off so warm and brotherly to the point where a lot of his shit gets over looked. Puts on such a great mask to hide all the bullshit he was doing behind your back. Good analysis videos 👍🏻👍🏻

[@GY9944]

I respect you for putting all that effort into these contents & short films & analysis and etc.,even after all these years game’s been released.

[@luzonarvie5781]

But if smoke really want to kill sweet why he ordered drive by in cj/mother's house not in sweet's house??🤔🤔🤔

[@thewhiskey584]

Love how you can learn new things from a 12-13 years old game. Thanks for the video!

[@PantMal]

Wait, why wouldn't CJ return if Sweet was killed?

[@sambo416]

PantMal even if cj came Back he wouldn't expect big smoke so nothing would happen

[@PantMal]

I don't disagree, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't return to bury his brother.

[@PantMal]

Fair point. But despite the fact that both brothers hated each other, deep inside they still cared for each other. Maybe CJ would have stayed in order to get revenge. I think it's impossible to know.

[@sambo416]

revenge on the ballas sure, but he wouldnt know big smokes involvement. Big smoke would just trick cj into killing the few ballas that know about the murder before they can talk. Cj would of came to los sontos and would of ended up just becoming big smoke's pawn at best.

[@matatosky]

I think he wouldn't have returned to bury sweet. Yes, he respected Sweet but they were estranged before their mother's death. I assume it's because Carl had a very different mentality than Sweet and Sweet resented him for it. He actually does all throughout the game and keeps blaming Carl for his unwillingness to die for the hood. Carl was a way better person than Sweet, even Tenpenny knew it, because he could put away Sweet easily but never did because he could manipulate him. He tried the same with Carl but as you see in the game, he fails to do so. I think Carl loves his family and actually wanted to do better by them but Sweet's selfish ways never let him do that until the end of the game. So no, I dont think CJ would've made it back to bury Sweet because if his mother hadn't died, he wouldn't have been able to prove himself to Sweet.

[@MHK24x]

This game will stay in my heart for the rest of my life. One of the best and still an relevant game till this day but has a really deep and a meaningful storyline.

[@arkguy5103]

I think the reason why big smoke didn't show up on the funeral because maybe he felt guilt because he killed Beverly instead of sweet. Just my opinion

[@Bendanna93]

The genius of this story is it's clear that Tenpenny wants to simply end the gang violence, which is a noble task. Unfortunately as we're playing a gang member, he's the bad guy. Not to mention the grey area his actions fall under. True master level storytelling.

[@boxylemons7961]

6:49 always thought he was talking to Hernandez. Now that you mention it this way the call makes more sense

[@Chaft015]

Really nice work there, I always wondered why he shot his bros behind their back like that, but I never put 2 + 2 together. Thanks man.

[@FortworthYT]

Smoke is love Smoke is life

[@gabrocki]

Best KZbinr in this category. Thanks for the hard work and dedication bro!

[@Paperkutchy]

When you realise Smoke was actually a hero to the Grove and the Johnson's and some parts arent touched in this vid.

[@777v.7]

I had the special edition where it came with Sunday driver and this mini movie I’m happy that you captured it for everyone to enjoy 🙏 GROVE 4 LIFE

[@F.I.B1]

I love your video mane!

[@EazzyZer0]

smoke never wanted to be like that! this analys shows that crash forced him

[@JD_The_Menace]

Love your vids man!keep it up! I like your intro with the gta vice city sound with big smoke outside cluckin bell 😅

[@alex_the_fiction]

It would have been really cool if there was a plot around the 2 ballas in the drive by. Great analysis!

[@thirstycactus5278]

Do one for toreno

[@jeangentry6656]

You should be a lawyer, you make a great case for both Ryder and Big Smoke, giving them depth I didn't see in thier characters, despite playing the game several times in my youth.

[@dozhadeville444]

*The voice actors made this a fkn movie!* Samuel L. Jackson (Every Movie!) Frank Vincent (Goodfellas) Clifton Powell (Pinky, Friday) Ice-T (Law & Order) David Cross (Scary Movie) Chris Penn (Rush Hour RIP) The Game (Rapper) MC Eiht (Rapper) Faizon Love (Big Worm, Friday) Charlie Murphy (Legend RIP) William Fichtner (The Dark Knight) Peter Fonda (Golden Globe Winner) Big Boy (Radio Personality) YoYo (Rapper) Never again will this be duplicated!

[@HK-sw3vi]

After so many fucking years, not the plot has actually sunk in man, respect

[@Gigidag77]

Finally I got the story. Only took me like 15 years.

[@marcelerystick7416]

I needed to be asleep because it was midnight on a school night but instead i watched this 2 part character analysis on a game ive never played before

[@tm5970]

All this time I thought they just betrayed grove because they wanted the money and drugs (smoke and Ryder) but it was deeper than I thought btw ik this is just a game but it’s one of the best if not theee best

[@lukecoffman9051]

Nicely done. This is a great series of videos. SA to me will always be the greatest game in history. I've spent more time in that game than any other and I keep coming back.

[@onlybrad8434]

I... AM... UNTOUCHABLE

[@devotee187]

Nice one, I never understood those lines said by Tenpenny and Pulaski in the intro, now it all made so much sense. Apart from one thing, I'm not sure Smoke hired the Ballas as they're seen in the alley discussing the killing right after first scene with cops (so Smoke just got threatened into betrayal at this point)

[@GroveStreetForLife]

How are the vice city pickup sounds in GTA San Andreas sound files?

[@ocolusdan4274]

I guess this theory is a BIG one I'll "goodbye cruel world" myself now ...

[@Brandelwyn]

wow, ive never even seen all those cutscenes. guess i need to get the game again

[@Ostin1299]

Not Alpharius its on yt not in sa tho

[@Kyrbai]

These days kids will never understand how important this is

[@alexandremonteiro1250]

im playing this game right now in the mission "photo opportunity"

[@tyrese2332]

Alexandre Monteiro and i beat the game

[@alexandremonteiro1250]

Congrats man gotta rewind and do it again

[@tyrese2332]

Alexandre Monteiro yea

[@alexandremonteiro1250]

i beat the game plenty of times man the story is just sooo awesome enjoy

[@alexandremonteiro1250]

well its 2 different times but yeah i prefer SA over V

[@Bamse99]

For real man, never thought there was so much story to the game man.

[@equanimity92]

Very well said! I recently made a lore video on Big Smoke discussing his potential I think you might enjoy. I also did one on Ryder and I plan to do more on other characters in the future! you should come check it out sometime! would be amazing to get your thoughts on it!

[@artkrasniqi3078]

Woahh! FINALLY!

[@ivailoparushev4004]

So if Sweet accepted Big Smoke and Tempeny's offer none of the events in the game would have happened

[@bs_blackscout]

How come Smoke had no free will. At the end he clearly says that the money and the power attracted him to all the shit (haven't watched it all, spare me. Just so I won't forget comment about it)

[@Raver-1601]

In my opinion, Smoke initially enter the game only to escape Tenpenny's pressure and possibly save GSF from C.R.A.S.H's hitlist, but as time passes by he finally got caught up by the money and power and thus abandoned his initial purpose and fully betrayed Sweet and GSF

[@mdragarg]

He took tenpenny's money at the very beginning because the power and money enticed him. Of course tenpenny didn't tell him of the plan to kill sweet until after smoke had taken the money. Therefore, he got stuck in a swamp

[@RushSoundz]

Great work as always Kev! Thanks a bunch bro, this was awesome!

[@klemen4319]

Bro cool video! thanks!