Team MSC Headers for CFMOTO CFORCE 1000 Testing & Install

[@Mike_MaLissa]

Awesome job MSC because you guys are making CFMOTO a competitor. Great job Blake and Joel!!

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Thanks Mike

[@stevecrane6894]

❤

[@bernardwatts2414]

You guys are really putting CFMOTO on a whole new level keep up the great work

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Thanks so much

[@ch3vy327]

Ikr I better buy one before everyone finds out and the price goes up lol

[@BroBuildsGarage]

Dang, the hp gain and especially the temp difference is absolutely crazy!!

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Yea bro.! I honestly couldn’t believe the temperature reading at first.. but the Flir gun doesn’t lie

[@jasonmiller9495]

Man I wish I lived by the shop!!! My dealer won’t do any aftermarket parts. They wouldn’t even put after market skid plates on it for me. The only good thing about that is it’s forcing me to do things on my own. The bad thing about that is im not mechanically inclined. Next week I will finally have enough saved to get the stage 3 trail kit can’t wait to mess my clutch up cause like I said I am not a good mechanic. Lmao

[@Mottesgrage1776]

I just bought my cf moto 1000 overland and just found your channel definitely well be ordering my parts from you guys in the next few weeks

[@zacharybrown9613]

My shopping list isn't gonna end with you guys... this a rear seat the tune and clutch.... sheesh

[@fredv7487]

Great job Blake and Joel. Y'all going to make set for zforce. After rapping my exhaust I added another piece of heat shield to the factory heat shield and the bed on the buggy just seems to only get as hot as the sun heats it. Keep up the good work. 👍👍👍👍👍

[@RealTalkPowersports]

That is great to hear.. And we appreciate ya.. right now the only option for full headers on the z950 is the full true duals that MSC sales (RJWC)

[@jeffgabriel9625]

Sounds amazing. Keep up the great work!!! 😎

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Thanks bro

[@BrianRodecker225]

Damn. That’s awesome. Keep killing it boyz!!

[@RealTalkPowersports]

thanks man

[@dirttraxtv]

That was awesome! Super detailed install 👊💥🎉

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Thanks guys!! 👍👍

[@richardr1790USCG]

Can't wait to see your videos of this setup running the mud races. I would assume Blake and Joel would add this to their rigs.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Yes we are building new ones with all the new components

[@CristianLopez-ei1ye]

That's crazy awesome. You guys are going to make me spend more money!😂

[@RichardSandstrom1163]

So when can I get headers for the 800XC? I already got the RJWC Exhaust. It is turning into an Addiction!!!

[@RealTalkPowersports]

very very soon brother.. we are working on the 800 right now

[@richardr1790USCG]

I hate to say this because I love everything you guys are doing over there at MSC but getting more horsepower and more torque on the CForce 1000 is an expensive endeavor! Going to have to save all my scratch! I will be doing these upgrades but have to say the following: 500 for the muffler, 400+ shipping for the tune without the programmer, 71 for the air filter, with outer wear, 70 for the carbon fiber elbow, and 600 for the header. Like 1641 bucks for what is 9 maybe 10 hp. 164 bucks or a little more per horsey.

[@klwarhouse]

$164 per horse...... Cheaper than a real 🐎 horse 😂

[@richardr1790USCG]

@@klwarhouse 🤣

[@TheMaGe-]

yeah. get a can-am :)

[@richardr1790USCG]

@@TheMaGe- nah, just enjoy it at the lower price point by many thousands. The chasing horsepower game is a never ending game.

[@TheMaGe-]

​@@richardr1790USCG So stop chasing power then..

[@sebastianpollok7234]

Great work....guys. I neeeeed it❤ Can you tell the tyre size from the overland in the video? Blackwater's and which size? Thank you

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Those are 30x10x14

[@timdavison2417]

Awesome job again!! Have you heard of any new colors for the CFORCE 1000 in 2023? Thanks!!

[@RealTalkPowersports]

I haven’t heard yet Mr Tim.. I do believe there will be some different color options.. I’ll be announcing very soon

[@timdavison2417]

@@RealTalkPowersports Thank you sir!! Have a wonderful week!!

[@lionheart8083]

Hi Blake. I am really impressed on how you are putting this great machine on a next level. BTW you have a lot of followers here in United Arab Emirates - My question to you is that do you ship from MSC to UAE - Abu Dhabi/Dubai. I mean, i need for my CFORCE Overland 1000 the following: MSC Headers, RJWC Single Exhaust and MSC Stage 3 Trail Clutch Kit. could you please advise how can i get them here (United Arab Emirates) Salutation to Joel as well. I like the way he does thinks. very professional and knowledgeable. Thanks, Mayad Fadel UAE Abu Dhabi

[@alexx_97]

Now that's what I'm talking about! More loudness and more power. Do we need a tune to run this?

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Yes I highly recommend the MSC tune with the headers

[@nathanrodney]

Are the dyno results with or without tune

[@rzl07375]

Nice, I wonder if the single cylinder machines would benefit from a cat delete in the headers to?

[@RealTalkPowersports]

We will look into it soon.. we are getting the 800 finished now

[@richardr1790USCG]

Any ICE will benefit from a more free flowing exhaust in general. Need to make sure it can breathe better too on the intake side.

[@jessedavis7670]

The UForce standard cab def needs this to help with the heat issue.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Up next is the cforce 800

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Are you talking about the U1000

[@jessedavis7670]

@@RealTalkPowersports yes sir

[@coltshannon1050]

Absolutely. Having the head pipe right under the seat is unpleasant. I realize that engine design defines where things can and can not be placed, but a different routing would be nice. Thumbs up to Blake, Joel , Rob and the entire MSC team.

[@stevecrane6894]

Game changer.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

It was even better than I expected

[@stevecrane6894]

Yes sir. Joel said it was awesome.

[@philipleblanc62]

I'm not necessarily looking for performance im more interested in the heat reduction benefits so my question is could I run one of these headers on my 1000 overland without having to reflash the ecu with a tune if I keep my stock exhaust

[@thisandthat454]

I still wanna see some dyno runs with clutch+tune and now clutch+tune+headers 😁

[@tadejtomsic9578]

Do I have to do remap when replacing the original exhaust silencer to aftermarket? ECU is still factory. Greetings from Slovenia

[@shawndale1552]

Man plz get these for the 800xc. Pair that with the jet hot coating and the machine will last alot longer. 👍

[@RealTalkPowersports]

They are coming soon brother

[@thaddeusothello7689]

Can you all mention the price of the parts you are changing out, as you are filming? When I go to MSC site to check the prices, its like an obstacle course trying to locate the part for prices.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

I always give the direct link to the parts in the description which will take you right to it and shows you price and description and everything brother.. when I film the products, most of the time the price has not been set yet if it’s a new product

[@jimmonk541]

I just bought a brand new Uforce 600 how much would wheels and that lift kit Cost shipped out to Florida? Everything total

[@RealTalkPowersports]

hey bro all you have to do is contact the parts department at MSC and they will assist you in your order. You can go on the website and price it all out

[@stevecrane6894]

Awesome video as well.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Thank you!!

[@stevecrane6894]

Your welcome sir.

[@roncrouch404]

That's crazy in temp area. If I'm not mistaken it looks like it's less than half the temp. That's crazy. Which begs me to ask, I know the 1000 and 800 are close and on the same chassis, are these compatible with the 800 or if not are some coming?

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Yea man it’s over 400 degrees cooler in that area of the exhaust

[@RealTalkPowersports]

This one is specific to the 1000 but we will have the 800 headers available soon

[@kevinsowders7102]

Just curious instead of having the hard 90* turn before muffler can you weld the muffler to the pipe before the 90* turn and straight out the back? Just thinking less turn's the better but I've learned alot from ya'll and youre making me want to sell my polaris and can am to get CF moto Uforce and a Cforce 1000. I wish CF Moto Uforce had a full hard door kit that isnt $5000 and also a A/C kit

[@Steve-mk8sg]

Can you run the head pipe with stock muffler?

[@michelleair2195]

I got 2019 cforce 1000 Bit jerky on pull off . Do I need clutch upgrade .Just got it .only got 1900 miles on cheers

[@buddyeast1928]

Very nice! Will there be a version for the 800XC?

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Thank you

[@RealTalkPowersports]

And yes sir we will have the 800 headers ready very shortly

[@gregwikiel1218]

That pipe sounds awesome, what do you think the total horse power gains are with the pipe, muffler, tune and clutch kit ?? Keep up the good work

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Thanks bro!! We need to do a full build and see

[@gregwikiel1218]

Numbers would be interesting. Get the Cfmotos racing in the states

[@franklyspeaking8335]

I love the channel. Got my RTPS decals in the mail just the other day. I love the how to videos. I’m wondering though. I’m a novice rider..this is my first real machine. I just like to casually trail ride every so often with friends. Realistically..what would this do for my machine? I’m running all stock right now. Is this gear for racing?

[@matthewhoopes7757]

@@franklyspeaking8335 . If you're just trail riding I doubt this would do much for you with the possible exception of reducing the heat on your right leg that people tend to complain of. I have no experience with CFMOTO so take this for what it is.

[@thaddeusothello7689]

So far what all has been changed out on this CF1000 prior to the exhaust system change out? Also does the rear bumper have to be permanently removed if the dual exhaust system is installed?

[@RealTalkPowersports]

You do have to remove the overland rear bumper in order to run the Dual exhaust,, This one has the single RJWC exhaust and the MSC tune

[@joshhassler]

@@RealTalkPowersports so it's just tune and full exhaust? Does it have any of MSC clutching?

[@timgray8931]

I have a rjwc exhaust and a msc tune do i need another tune for the headers or is it the same tune

[@RealTalkPowersports]

That’s perfect.. the parameters are set in the tune you already have to work with our Team MSC Headers

[@timchiriac7194]

Can you compare these to rjwc headers ?

[@matthewhoopes7757]

So, completely unrelated to the exhaust but related to the 1000 and 800 models I must bring something up that I saw that doesn't seem right. On these two particular models the winch cable is coming from the bottom of the spool, steeply angling upwards, and then going through the fairlead. On the 500 and 600 models its coming off the top of the spool straight out through the fairlead as it should. The way it is coming out of the 800/1000 is not a straight pull and I would say drastically decreases the efficiency of the winch. I was trying to figure out a mathematical way to measure the inefficiency of it but I'm stumped there. Maybe somehow measuring voltage draw when pulling? Anyway, off the top of my head I would say flip the winch over so it mimics the same install direction of the 500/600 models. When I get my Overland (maybe from MSC) that will be the first thing I try to remedy. Otherwise, looking up close to the build quality of the machine it seems pretty darn good. I tend to focus on details under the shiny plastic:)

[@richardr1790USCG]

Me want. I would still heat wrap the entire length to the muffler flange. Are you going to do a re-tune for the CForce 1000 with this header?

[@RealTalkPowersports]

The AFR is set to run in a certain parameter setting within the MSC Tune for each machine.. the O2 sensors send readings to the ECU and then it makes adjustments to the fuel to get the AFR to where we want it. So short answer is the MSC Tune is setup to handle this mod with no problem as seen in the video

[@cliffyb4197]

@@RealTalkPowersports will the factory ECU handle this mod with out the MSC tune?

[@jordanmcdonald8764]

How much is a full eliminator exhaust kit and and muffler???

[@gregwikiel1218]

Will the pipe also work on the cforce 800 ???

[@RealTalkPowersports]

It is only for the 1000.. but the 800 headers will be available very soon

[@Mitchie.the.kidd.]

Any options for the 600T I'm sure you get asked that question alot.

[@ShaneBoldra1989]

Will this fit the 800

[@RealTalkPowersports]

No sir.. we will have the 800 headers ready soon though

[@travissmith1599]

Wonder how much the AFR changed. I guess not alot since it seemed to run and idle about the same. Also wonder how much more of a difference in heat you would get if you did a full length header wrap.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

The AFR is set to run in a certain parameter setting within the MSC Tune for each machine.. the O2 sensors send readings to the ECU and then it makes adjustments to the fuel to get the AFR to where we want it

[@richardr1790USCG]

Into was wondering this and also wondering what kind of headroom the fuel injection sysyem has on this machine.

[@matthewwiltz7057]

Time for a cam!!

[@Tribe910TrySumthin]

Was thus unit test with a clutch kit and tune?

[@RealTalkPowersports]

This unit does have our tune

[@nathanrodney]

@@RealTalkPowersports was it tuned befor the exhaust aswell as after

[@1polaricat]

This header work for a overland 1000? Only thing i hate about this machine is the heat on the right leg. Also do you have a tune available for this header pipe?

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Yes sir! The cforce in this video is a overland 1000.. it definitely gets rid of that heat and yes the Team MSC Tune is designed to handle this header

[@David-qc1dk]

Will this turn check engine light on ?

[@prestonhenderson4256]

Wow 3 more hp not to mention the cooler temp

[@RealTalkPowersports]

👍💪💪

[@richardr1790USCG]

I hate to say this because I love everything you guys are doing over there at MSC but getting more horsepower and more torque on the CForce 1000 is an expensive endeavor! Going to have to save all my scratch! 500 for the muffler, 400 for the tune without the programmer, 71 for the air filter, with outer wear, 70 for the carbon fiber elbow, and 600 for the header. Like 1641 bucks for what is 9 maybe 10 hp. 164 bucks or a little more per horsey.

[@joshhassler]

@@richardr1790USCG should see how much it is to do the same to can am...

[@richardr1790USCG]

@@joshhassler the can am is already putting out almost a hundo. Not much left in the displacement to get without forced induction. The CFMoto has 79 should be anble to get more a little easier and cheaper.

[@joshhassler]

@@richardr1790USCG and you are paying 18k for that quad. These are 9 to 10k. So half the price.

[@Zakie7]

Where can I order this for Europe?

[@richardtoney35]

Will it fit the 800xc???

[@gheorghedanet7212]

Hi, does this affect the motor?

[@RealTalkPowersports]

You need the Team MSC Tune with the headers and you will love the power gains

[@ligitsnowman714]

You guys have any idea If there are any floorboards available for the cforce 1000?

[@RealTalkPowersports]

We will look into it

[@208flatbedOO]

Dang was that a 500 degree drop?

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Yea bro it was consistently over 400 degree drop

[@joelcrane8197]

👍

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Thanks bro

[@littletimmy9]

how does it delete the cat with out throwing a code

[@richardr1790USCG]

This unit has no sensor after the cat.

[@richardr1790USCG]

The sensors on the CForce 1000bthat you see them installing are close to the head to measure the fuel/air ratio for the ECU. The cat is not monitored for it's performance on the exhaust.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

👍👍

[@wardcrosby9579]

i wouldn't put anything back together until you test for leaks

[@hejkallesni238]

Guys, on which sites can you buy the exhaust pipe, my email is crazy, so send me the link on FB, hey, forest. Thank you

[@hejkallesni238]

Hejkal lesni Thank you!

[@RealTalkPowersports]

www.mainstreetcycle.com/shopping/item/1960/team-msc-cforce-1000-headers

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Also the link is in the description of this video

[@hejkallesni238]

could i ask you a question

[@luckylucien5872]

il video è interessante, peccato che non lo fanno in italiano...

[@PeeterPuncher]

Support your local Chinese.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

This header is designed and made by our friends in Finland and tested and sold in the US 👍

[@drec7366]

That's not power just noise

[@RealTalkPowersports]

More power, drastically cooler temps, better throttle response and yes it is louder

[@richardr1790USCG]

Noise = power!

[@corythe-drunk-pickle9878]

Way to expensive for some welded pipe.

[@josh3989]

will it work on a 800 as well

[@RealTalkPowersports]

800 headers are being produced now.. I’ll do a video when they are ready