Rearranging the BGG Top 10 Best Board Games of All Time List

[@multiplemenace]

I'd like to see you do this regarding the "Family" category on BGG.

[@cliffordkee611]

Love this idea!

[@wouter9437]

Love your order, bonus points for Castle of Burgundy. Such a cohesive thematic and packed game. Minor point, it was a tiny bit hard too follow if you were rating a game higher than bgg did. It showed visually on the board but could have used a +/- # of spots on the screen

[@Ivytea]

I still can't get enough Dune: Imperium. It is just too good. I do like Brass though, suprised that wasn't up there!

[@Exozik]

My top 5 would be: 1. Dune: Imperium 2. Brass: Lancashire 3. Ark Nova 4. Spirit Island 5. Twilight Imperium 4th Edition

[@maxwell6563]

Awesome! I`m definitely not a coop fan. The only coop mechanism I like is the Gloom one. Also, I`ve recently played Brass: Birmingham, and to be honest it's freaking good! So the list is: 1) Twilight Imperium: Fourth Edition 2) Dune: Imperium 3) Gloomhaven: Jaws of the Lion 4) Brass: Birmingham 5) Scythe 6) The Castles of Burgundy 7) Great Western Trail 8) Gloomhaven 9) Ark Nova 10) Eclipse: Second Dawn for the Galaxy Perhaps Rebellion and WOTR could join the game instead of the last 2, but unfortunately these are 2-player games and I have no one to play them with

[@BoardGameHangover]

Great list!

[@ker7743]

Where's TF ?

[@szassegamestabletop]

Great idea and take! Enjoy seeing your take on the top 10

[@igelkott255]

First, I don't tend to rank campaign games like Gloomhaven or Pandemic Legacy with regular board games since they may be awesome while playing them but after you're finished with the campaign they just sit on the shelf (or are sold) and aren't touched except for maybe some nostalgia thing. So here's my top ten rearrangement list: 1 Scythe 2 Terraforming Mars 3 Spirit Island 4 Gaia Project 5 Castles of Burgundy 6 Ark Nova 7 Dune Imperium 8 Brass Birmingham 9 GWT 10 Eclipse And Dune Imperium is actually just a stand-in for Lost Ruins of Arnak which I like much better. Dune Imperium would not be on my list.

[@brandonbiondo9208]

Putting TI under Eclipse is a crime against humanity

[@TotallyBoard]

Way different from my list, but awesome still! I have Through the Ages and haven't played it yet. Y'all are motivating me to do that

[@BoardGameHangover]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@Theplaysthet]

This is a great idea! Always appreciate the thought and effort you put into every video.

[@BoardGameHangover]

Glad you like it!

[@ptastydactyl]

Great list! Dang you guys really know how to talk about games! I haven't played any of these. I just got Brass Birmingham but haven't played it yet. I got Terraforming Mars and Castles of Burgundy coming and now I'm super intrigued with the rest on your list... except Spirit Island. Thanks!

[@mikehall9240]

Fun video! Thanks for explaining each game a little. Would love to try some of these!

[@jonathanr8388]

1. Gaia Project 2. Scythe 3. Spirit Island 4. 7 Wonders Duel 5. Brass Birmingham 6. Castles of Burgundy 7. Gloomhaven (only played JotL) 8. Through the Ages (only played once, could be higher) 9. Dune Imperium (only played once, might not be top 10) 10. Terraforming Mars (Definitely not a top 10 game, but I haven't played the others) Im getting Eclipse, so it will be interesting where it falls :-).

[@BoardGameHangover]

Great list!

[@luisalbertorodriguez6342]

You should play "7 wonders Duel" 3 more times, specially if you can play 2 out of 3, it would shine. It is a game that, in my opinion, shines more the more you play. The way you discarded it immediately made me think, they haven't played it enough against each other. I might be wrong, especially if you are not up for games that are very confrontational, and stressful against another player. But seeing that you also chose TS as one of the top 10, and top 3 for that matter, then I think 7 wonders plays are missing. That is the only explanation. ;)

[@AIQ88]

Me and my girlfriend love 7 wonders duel but again we haven't played that many different games yet

[@asqik]

I played it like 20 times since it is available on bag and it is the most overrated game in top 20

[@AIQ88]

@@asqik it's short and it has several ways to win and plenty of things to consider and very little downtime At least in real life it plays super fast

[@ericnelson382]

This is such a great game! The expansions are a must but I love the challenge of military, science, politics, or just points if the game makes it all 3 rounds. Absolutely love this one!!

[@luisalbertorodriguez6342]

@@asqik Did you play it agains someone you know or someone you don't know? I think this game has shined for me because I started playing it against my best friend. We play a lot of games together, and that means we play a lot less 7 wonders duel than we used to, but bragging rights are always kept by the last "Duel winner". I think this game also works better if you are able to interact with the same person over and over. Or the alternative is playing with people that know the game really well. There is nothing like the sweet sweet feeling of knowing that you are going to be beaten by points and managing to score a scientific or military victory. Or the stress of knowing that you are going to win, but your opponent might still get the winning card on one of the face down reveals.

[@tombeullens4914]

Not a fan of war so also not of war games... I like that you guys picked Castles of Burgundy. Like you said I love that it's much simpler and less bombastic... And one of the games that were brilliant from the beginning with a lot of great mini expansions to make it even better in 1 box. It didn't need 5 big expansions to fix all unbalanced or lucky problems, like 'I'm sorry' Dune Imperium... Too much experience with 1 or 2 intrige cards that decided the whole game

[@paladinodark3396]

My Top 5 1- Dune Imperium 2- Terraforming Mars 3-Scythe 4- Wonders Duel 5-Ark Nova

[@mike9139]

YOU ARE BOTH AWESOME! ❤❤❤

[@LinearConvolution]

the Ark Nova veto was so, so clutch and justified!

[@RLeeUpper90]

Ark NooooooooVa. How could you?

[@browe]

Right?! Janis just didn't think about the Dusky Leaf Monkey. How can you veto Dusky Leaf Monkey? TM stays, but AN goes? Nothing makes sense anymore... 😜

[@sarumon17]

Terraforming mars has much more staying power, and actually works at different player counts.

[@tombeullens4914]

It's ok and Fun, but not a top 10 game overall

[@yhaerysthethird6088]

Not a top 10 game of all time

[@apology1116]

Trash.

[@MrTravolta7]

My choice: 1. Castles of Burgundy 2. Great Western Trail 3. Brass 4. 7 Wonders Duel 5. Dune 6. Terraforming Mars 7. Ark Nova 8. Scythe 9. Star Wars Rebellion 10. Gaia Project

[@netman63129]

Great list! Here's mine... 1) Dune Imperium (but I think Arnak is as good or better) 2) Eclipse (TI is too hard to get to the table) 3) Spirit Island 4) Scythe 5) Castles of Burgundy 6) Brass Birmingham 7) Through the Ages 8) Twilight Struggle 9) War of the Ring 10) Ark Nova

[@BoardGameHangover]

Looks great!

[@subafiam1987]

1. Spirit Island 2. Brass Birmingham 3. The Castles of Burgundy 4. Twilight Struggle 5. Terraforming Mars 6. Great Western Trail 7. 7 Wonders Duel

[@theGoldenboy111111]

This is crazy!! Except for Dune imperium and Castle of burgundy, all my favourite games were left out of your Top10!!

[@pronumeral1446]

All I know about latvia is potato jokes and board game hangover.

[@OlgaJaramillo-n7s]

1:29 Hi...can you do a video comparing the best DUNE board games...pros/cons. I would like to hear what are your opinions .I feel i like Dune War for Arrakis, but you guys like empirum. ❤ Thanks! Love your videos 🎉

[@educationRnR1]

That Veto of Ark Nova was a huge mistake. It is so much better than a good chunk of your final 10. Bad call 👎

[@BoardGameHangover]

Ah, you are correct sir. Back in the day they used to call me Bad Call Johny (Jānis is a Latvian name for John). Thanks for watching and the comment ;) /JG

[@educationRnR1]

@@BoardGameHangover Still a great video and thanks for your views as always 👍

[@dontForgetDontForgive]

after TM and Earth, so not place in top10, good choice)

[@Terre-Sauvage-Music]

Merci les gars pour ces découvertes

[@mrp4242]

Of those 20 games, here’s how I’d rank them: 1. Twilight Imperium IV 2. War of the Ring, 2nd edition 3. Terraforming Mars 4. Ark Nova 5. Rebellion 6. Gloomhaven 7. Twilight Struggle 8. Scythe 9. Castles of Burgundy 10. Dune Imperium I can respect Brass: BIrmingham. It fell fairly flat with our gaming group and its owner sold it after about a year.I can see why people might like it. I just don’t love it. I’ve never played Lancashire, and Birmingham has not encouraged me to try. I feel like Im the only person on the planet that actively dislikes Spirit Island. And it’s not from trying. I’ve borrowed it from our local library (it’s always available) many times and I own the digital version. And it’s not like I won’t do Co-op; Flash Point is in my personal Top-20. So, I don’t know what it is; I dont like it. I put it in with Le Harve and Caylus as three of the games I consider most overrated. Of all the games I’ve ever played (active board gamer and collector since the 70s), it’s the one that carries the biggest difference to what I rate it compared to what BGG does. I’d almost--almost-rather play Phase Ten or Candyland. I expect to continue to drop over time. I do question its staying power, even amongst its fanboys; in 5 years, I suspect it to not even be in the top 25 anymore. Don’t @ me. Through the Ages is ok-I have the tabletop and digital version, but looking to sell/trade/giveaway the tabletop one. Too much admin. For my taste, I prefer Nations tons more; it’s in my personal Top-10. 7-Wonders Duel is ok--I think OG 7-Wonders with Leaders is more fun, unless of course I only have 2P. Great Western Trail. My gaming group really liked this one, but it didn’t really click for me the first two plays. Would be willing to keep trying to see if it moves up. Not holding my breath. Gaia Project. This one is good. Nearly made my list. I really like Terra Mystica. Eclipse. I’ve only played the digital version. A friend of mine just got it and has said ‘we should get together to play it sometime’ but we have found a chance yet. I expect I will probably enjoy it. Pandemic Legacy. I have not played it. Have played original Pandemic several times and I think it’s ok. Gloomhaven Jaws of the Lion. This is fine. I do prefer OG Gloom. If we would have included the ‘Top-32’ 😢games on BGG, my top listing would have looked different. Root, Orleans, A Feast for Odin, and Terra Mystica would all have beaten out the last 4 on my list above. The game Im most excited about for 2024: Arcs. Cheers.

[@thatkaiguy]

Wow, Brass Birmingham wasn't even considered. Since I started board gaming ten years ago, this is the first game I feel that BGG Rank 1 was correct. Gloomhaven and Pandemic aren't even in my top 20.

[@BoardGameHangover]

That's why board gaming hobby is so great - everyone can find something for their own tastes :)

[@martinvoetman8717]

Top 5 Dune Ark nova Lancashire Scythe 7 wonders duel

[@Myllhahn]

The great thing about Brass is its variability. You can play it quick (compared to other games on this list), the design is great, there is much complexity with just few mechanics, quite simple to learn, impossible to master and you can play it with two, three or even four people and it will work. Therefore it should be in every Top10 list, even though it's no one's favourite and fully deserved Top game on BGG.

[@thatkaiguy]

​@@MyllhahnI agree with your critique. It isn't my favorite game but it is my favorite out of the BGG top 10

[@SajjadAli-fj9ro]

Great Video again guys

[@ericnelson382]

It’s always subjective and I haven’t played every game in the top 20, but… Brass Birmingham Scythe Ark Nova Castles of Burgundy Twilight Imperium Dune Great Western Trail Eclipse 7 Wonders Duel (w/expansions) Terraforming Mars HAVEN’T PLAYED: Gloomhaven War of the Ring Star Wars Through the Ages Spirit Island

[@BoardGameHangover]

Great list!

[@kingandkongo]

No nemesis, heresy!

[@davidt4233]

Mage Knight is the best coop / solo game without question. Marvel Champions should be here.

[@Rev3rence]

Tell me you're a sci fi nerd without telling me you're a sci fi nerd

[@enr1l]

Agree on Dune Imperium being N.1

[@memolano100]

Dune Imperium is my favorite game.

[@jonathanfranklin461]

How about doing this for games outside the BGG Top 100? Wow, no Gaia Project. :(

[@dblevins343]

I did love watching Pandemic get vetoed 😂. I really dislike Pandemic despite trying to enjoy it. Same goes for Gloomhaven. However, I do think Gloomhaven is a top 10 game despite me not enjoying it. Whats funny is I enjpy dungeon crawlers, I just dislike the game play of Gloomhaven.

[@Ivytea]

for serious gamers, Spirit Island is just a better, more complex version of pandemic IMO

[@dblevins343]

@Ivytea I can see where you're coming from with that line of thought. Ive only played one game of Spirit Island though so I'm not as knowledgeable about it.

[@JordanMurdockMusician]

I feel like all my favourites are licensed games lol Nemesis, Gangs of Night City, Bloodborne, Eldritch Horror and Unfathomable

[@BoardGameHangover]

Great games! Where not in the top 20 BGG list, but would love to see them there :)

[@Saylor28]

Is Through the Ages better with people? Cause I always lose against the AI to the point where I think they are cheating.

[@tiestiox]

Haha its hard to beat him, thats a real good IA opponent

[@IamJFD]

damn would Spirit Island keep falling down? :o

[@TNESatiron]

I am so glad that "Random People" made the BGG Top List and not this 2 Guys.

[@oldmanshreds]

7 Wonders Duel so high in BGG is puzzling. After time, it feels underwhelming compared to many other 2p games. Star Wars Deckbuilding and Splendor Duel replaced it here.

[@TheSetupDuo]

How could you throw away gloomhaven😢

[@alexanderburkhart7798]

I think you missed some games like ISS Vanguard or Frosthaven

[@BoardGameHangover]

They are not on the Board game geeks top 20 list. Couldn't use them in this one :(

[@heavenseeker1324]

I feel like I'm the only person who just finds Dune Imperium to be.... just.... Okay.

[@terry7907]

You are not alone!

[@mromero120]

You two are alone

[@rickc6789]

he: takes out Ark Nova I: unsubscribe

[@jbringas9582]

Pandemic Legacy is such a good game. Jūs esat pazemināts no desmit labākajiem kanāliem.

[@victoriaharper2913]

Veto of Ark Nova makes me want to cancel my patreon. It'ds clear who the best Janis is 😂😂

[@olivierjodoin2283]

Spirit Island #4 ? It should be at the very least #1...

[@ThePebblor]

In no specific order, my top 10 for games we keep on talking about long after the game is over, and those that we immerse ourseves totally in: . Oath . Dune Imperium . Mansions of Madness 2e . Subterra . Root . Twilight Imperium 4e . Core Space . Who Goes There 2e . Robinson Crusoe 2e . Dont have a number 10 quite yet After i receive my next wave of Kickstarters there might be a few changes in there tho... 😅 😊

[@alisonwentland3765]

I would love to get my hands on a copy of Subterra. Would love to try it!

[@ThePebblor]

It's in my top 10 because it's simple to play, but very atmospheric; we always have really tense moments of "ooh!! aah!!" with cinematic endings. It's brilliant. Must be played with a creepy horror soundtrack though 😁

[@NoahAbrahamson]

1. Through the Ages 2. Ark Nova 3. Brass: Burmingham 4. Castles of Burgandy 5. Terraforming Mars 6. Great Western Trail 7. 7 Wonders Duel 8. Spirit Island 9. Gloomhaven 10. Crokinole.

[@BoardGameHangover]

Great list! Unfortunately Crokinole isn't in the top 20 BGG, we couldn't use it :(

[@augustjologs1]

Twilight Imperium that takes a day to play? In top 10? HAHAHA. If that game is so good, how come only a few play it?

[@junyanliu3621]

Yes no Ark nova. Respect ！Tm is wayyyyy better ❤❤❤❤❤

[@MrScrawnjuan]

Two random Janis' from Latvia

[@victor28lee]

Top 3 most played games on BGA, one got thrown away, another not featured. Shame... Shame... Shame...

[@BoardGameHangover]

Which one is the other one? :))

[@user7612-n5y]

Wow guys, love your content! And this is probably the worst list i ever saw lol.

[@Emanon...]

Uprising is so much better than base Imperium, though.

[@Ivytea]

too much empasis on combat IMO

[@HorseIRL]

There goes Scythe 😢. But I agree with Ark Nova flying out the window. Overrated.

[@williamw7]

i see a lot of praise for terraforming mars but i just hate how bad the game style looks, it looks very dated.. is there a newer version or alternative ?

[@BoardGameHangover]

Yeah, it receives a lot of criticism about the looks. "Earth" might be a good alternative or you can check out "Terraforming Mars: Ares Expedition". A bit different games, but similar vibes

[@Musashi0777]

At laaaaast, the recognition that SW Reb. is better than WoR...;o)))))))

[@krisscrims]

Noooooo, neveerrrr…… 😂 WOTR, you will always be on top In my heart…. ❤

[@Musashi0777]

😂

[@meganmoore1452]

Vetoing ARK NOVA is CRIMINAL!!!! 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@thelinuxlich]

The end of Through the Ages is soooooooo boring

[@MCJesse-hu4ru]

I'm ok with all Nova missing out. I don't find the action selection mechanism that interesting. It feels like it plays itself. Do the level 5 or 4 action on your turn.

[@IndianaGeologist]

Ark Nova is not a Top 10, completely agree with Janis!!?

[@Frankie-the-Tankie]

Having TI4 and Eclipse in the top 10 is boooooooooo :)

[@christaggart5687]

Get Eclipse out of there. Hated that game

[@marekhajducak7428]

Ark Nova outside of top 10? Guys really? I do understand that is not space game or war game, but u must admit, it is one of the best game ever made, 100% beter than Teraforming Mars :(

[@sarumon17]

Terraforming mars theme and engine building is better and actually works at multiple player counts.

[@Kapkeh]

Why?! What did those poor animals do to you?!

[@iansutton7416]

If I ever compiled a top 10 (or even top 20), I doubt *any* of these games would be in it. A reminder to treat the opinions of others with some caution, instead focusing (as your reviews do) on what might appeal to different players, rather than taking a rating or ranking as definitive.

[@nandotemplo]

I'm blocking this channel. Vetoing Ark nova to add Burgundy is sacrilege

[@chrisfoot2007]

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong :p

[@desertwind666]

I mean all the top 20 games except scythe are good, so sure hard to have a bad list… no brass is weird though as it is very very good.

[@BoardGameHangover]

For sure, they are all in the top 20 for a reason ;)

[@luisareds]

Noooo Ark Nova 💔 Janis!

[@BoardGameHangover]

Sorry :(

[@entelekhia]

wideo

[@johnnomak9883]

Worst boring euro game list ever...

[@BoardGameHangover]

What would be your top 10?

[@johnnomak9883]

@@BoardGameHangover it would definitely be a more diverse list, because if I'm making "review" videos, I need to have a broader taste. There should be a bit of responsibility because my opinion can affect people that are watching my videos, and can make bad decisions according to it.

[@BoardGameHangover]

Hmm. I think you misunderstood the premise of the video. We can only pick games from the top 20 games on Board Game Geek. Which mostly are euro games. If you'd like to see our top 10 games of all time list you can find it here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIbZZH9-Zq6faKssi=4cokoBITqaMksixl

[@LeeStoneman]

Lost me at Ark Nova. Lost all credibility. Shame 😢

[@NoahAbrahamson]

Dune is not that good. Maybe top 20 good, but not #1 good.

[@Ivytea]

disagree.

[@BoardGameHangover]

Which would be your Nr. 1 pick?