I believe Vi knows that Cait has changed, but she simply refuses to admit it.
@brak7203Ай бұрын
Breaking bad
@mateoalmandos2131Ай бұрын
Can't blame Cait for changing. Her mother was murdered by the same person responsible for her town's terrorist attacks and she blames herself for not stopping it earlier
@shannarong3475Ай бұрын
@@mateoalmandos2131 agree
@SoySauce9Ай бұрын
@@brak7203 omg yeah At what point did Cait become Jinxenberg Bravo Christian
@Hel-o7uАй бұрын
I actually dont understand how she lost herself over her dictator mom...who brought soooo much suffering to Zaun...yeah you lost your mommy but you have all your life lived in a castle...Cait doesnt know real suffering that her regime has caused...mothers,fathers,children...HUNDREDS of zaunites have been killed by her regime , I hope she finds her way back but right now I hate her...and no s*it that zaunites fight back , Im coming from a similar country and we needed to use tough force to get our freedom back...so Im team Zaun all the way...they deserve better
@ninjacat216Ай бұрын
Vi: “Please promise me you won’t change” Cait: “I, wont” At the end of the episode: Cait has completely changed and is now low-key giving dictator. This hits ven harder when you realise that “I wont” can mean two different things, 1, I wont change and 2, I wont promise that i wont change
@JavelinAngel1295Ай бұрын
It's a well known fact that women really suck at keeping promises.
@brak7203Ай бұрын
If I undrestood the video corectly the idea is that Cate didn't realy change. I agree with it to some point, adding that her vangeance took over her good side. In my oponion Cait didnt change just her unknowed side of personality showed.
@cartoonishidealism582Ай бұрын
It’d be god damn wild if she meant “I won’t promise that” because it means the scenario was basically “Promise me you won’t change” Caitlyn leans in, delicately caressing her face and softly whispering, “I’m not gonna promise that you dumb bitch” And then they made out
@sfs8091Ай бұрын
It’s just that Cait is angry for her mother’s death,and she did these things towards Vi kinda not on purpose because she is actually angry at her sister and not her. So I understand her and not hate her for that.
@rubiconprime1429Ай бұрын
“Please don’t change” is 1000% sadder when even after the gut check, Vi hallucinates Caitlyn in her Season one getup, from before she changed 😢
@Hel-o7uАй бұрын
and Jinx will be watching....and probably they reunite again....I cant say why cause its a spoiler but I feel like they have a chance to be sisters again...whatever Vi says " you are not my sister" and I hate you blahblahblah....she is still the ONLY family Vi has left , my sister is psychotic aswell, our family cut her off cause she was too hard to deal with but not for me, I dont care how crazy she is, I know that she only needs love and therapy cause she has nobody but me thanks to her illness, I would never say these hurtful things to her when I know how much she already suffers
@meiru2453Ай бұрын
@@Hel-o7u nice try
@wanderergrimАй бұрын
Ekko hasn't changed that drastically mostly he's just got older, matured a bit and got better at the stuff he was attempting to do as a kid
@lightfractalsАй бұрын
best character in the series
@yessicabhutani2750Ай бұрын
but that is change isnt it
@VioM0chaАй бұрын
@@yessicabhutani2750 Well technically! He has changed js not that much I mean everyone changes and Ekko js went through a couple of small changes. Like he still acts the same but more mature than he was at his age while on the other hand Jinx has changed completely except for her building the robot bomb thing.
@trongtran8951Ай бұрын
@@VioM0chatbf, Ekko is no longer a smug person we got used to during first act.
@saphire875Ай бұрын
ekko changed for good while everybody else changed for the worse. sevika, powder, the undercity, vi has lost so much in her lifetime.
@dimithri1403Ай бұрын
100% agree with the fact that Vi stopped Caitlyn from shooting because she wanted to protect her sister, sure the child getting in between definitely helped too, but it was more about Vi protecting Jinx than Vi protecting the child and i think Caitlyn knew that too, cause like it was said in the video, if Vi was actually committed to killing Jinx, then she could have moved the child, i mean she could have at least tried to do something. Vi knew Cait had the shot, i mean Cait literally shot the gun out of the kids hand. So both of them sort of betrayed each others feelings. Vi told Caitlyn to "take the shot". Even if Vi hadn't realized it herself, i think Vi was never ready to kill her sister when the time actually came, same way how Jinx couldn't shoot Vi either and it makes sense i mean, they are sisters at the end of the day, its not going to be easy to go through with it. But Caitlyn's actions are understandable too. Her mother just died and her hatred and anger is still so fresh and she now has all these responsibilities that it must be overwhelming, and the person she loves gave her the trust and confidence to kill her mother's killer but didn't do it at the end and Caitlyn understands that Vi and her cannot ever have the same goal, as in how Cait wants to avenger her mother and how Vi wants to protect everyone she loves(including Jinx). This point is what makes Cait so frustrated at the end. This is what i love about the story telling in Arcane, no one is really wrong or right. It's a messed up situation for everyone and everyone's feelings are valid at the end of the day.
@Hel-o7uАй бұрын
yeah I think so tooo....everybody says its because of the child that Jinx tried to protect her...saying "get off of my" she did it cause she didnt want a little girl get hurt and Vi saw Powder again in Jinxs eyes probably the minute she said " Im glad its you, had to be you" ...thats totally understandable...doesnt matter how crazy your sister is...she is still the ONLY family Vi has left and I believe that parts of Powder will show up again in Jinx ...at least it seems to be going that way
@ausiidndАй бұрын
@@Hel-o7u It doesn't have anything to do with Vi "not being ready to kill her sister" or whatever, she was absolutely ready to kill her no matter how sad Jinx looked. If you rewatch that moment, she was winding up a punch to kill Jinx before Isha got in the way. The real reason that Isha made Vi hesitate is simply that Isha reminded her of herself. A tough, scared kid willing to fight and die to protect her. It snaps Vi out of the situation and back into her old feelings towards Powder, and that's enough to make her reclaim her agency and try to stop Caitlyn.
@Hel-o7uАй бұрын
@@ausiidnd oh wow then I hate Vi even more , as a bigger sister to psychotic girl I could never no matter how crazy she has been, my family cut her off and she had nobody...I know that she can have episodes and she can be violent and unhinged but she is still my sister! Vi is a monster then but I think you are wrong...cause I know that they rexonnect later on in the series and Jinx changes her look , she looks both like Jinx and Powder...even a little it of firelight in there , I do believe that Jinx redeems herself at least somehow also Jinx didnt look sad to me... she looked relieved...at this point she has nothing to lose and she almost wants to die...she was glad it was going to be her sister not someone else
@sfs8091Ай бұрын
100%
@mariusconstantin6057Ай бұрын
You know in a different time, Cait wouldn't have hit the kid, but after a video explaining how Cait still chose to shoot the target that looked like Jinx despite knowing she wasn't there... IF, the kid managed to get out of Vi's clutches and was still over Jinx... Yeah, safe to say Cait wasn't in a good place mentally to be trusted with not missing
@peagames2002Ай бұрын
I'd hate to shower on parade, but Jinx also pointed out to Vi that she changed too. Likely she changed before she even went to jail. Edit: I'm sure, that even if Vi had returned to Powder after calming down, Powder wouldn't be the same.
@J1ntuАй бұрын
Yeah, I feel like Vi was changed the second she realized what Powder did and that everyone else was gone but we never saw her go through it
@mateoalmandos2131Ай бұрын
@@peagames2002 In a way she did considering she went from her protective and caring older sister to a more brutal towards her person that even goes with an enforcer, the same kind of people that took the life of their parents (even if Cait proved in the moment that she was better), to go and hunt down Jinx
@mariusconstantin6057Ай бұрын
@@mateoalmandos2131and usibg that toxic gas which caused panic and is probably responsible for the intensity of the infighting in Zaun now that I think about it. Wish I could remember where I heard it. I'm too draqn in by the stpry and action to think much about the ramifications and connect certain dots - not wothput watching the episode more times.
@cuongtranmanh379427 күн бұрын
Jinx means Vi changed because 1, she thought Cait have replaced her in the number 1 place in Vi's heart 2, Vi let's other people Cait, Ekko and even Silco get into her head and doubted her own sister capability to do good
@wass77Ай бұрын
i think if VI ever got the option of cait and jinx being both alive and sacrifice her relationship with cait she would take it notice i said "relationship" not "love" because from what i have seen in the show VI would never stop loving cait
@abesp7662Ай бұрын
Thank you 🥺❤️🏳️🌈
@drteletubbyАй бұрын
The real question is, do you think vi will ever talk about her time in stillwater? I mean it was only 7 years of her young adult life, you would think it would help explain things to cait, or anyone else for that matter.
@Skyz_MM2Ай бұрын
This will be we’re Vi realizes that everything has changed and accepts it. I can wait to see what she’ll be able to do once she accepts the fact that everyone has changed
@saphire875Ай бұрын
she'll go full emo
@Rotuwam1Ай бұрын
That scene where she hit her broke me but I knew it was coming. I just hope they reconcile in the last act ... someway 😭💔
@Joyride37Ай бұрын
Theyre def gonna reconcile bc Amanda Overton has all but confirmed that the sex scene that’s coming later in the season is probably caitvi
@Rotuwam1Ай бұрын
@@Joyride37 I have faith because of what you have said. If you are lying I WILL find you
@ud2278Ай бұрын
@@Rotuwam1 imma help
@mateoalmandos2131Ай бұрын
@@Joyride37 Does this season also includes rating from sex scenes? Because I can understand from the first season but does it apply to the whole series?
@RAND0M_FAN3D1TSАй бұрын
And it's a wonder why it hurt her so much because she gir stabbed in the exact spot last season and Caitlyn hit it right on the spot
@Bahar-xl5nhАй бұрын
Another thing is that when Vi said: can i get a minute.. If you notice, you can clearly see that Caitlin calmed down a bit and her eyes softened as she looked at Vi.. just for a second..
@skellybrain2698Ай бұрын
oi, he brought up the three stages "loving without knowing", then "knowing without loving" AND THEN said "relationship" was next. SO THAT MEANS THEY STILL HAVE A CHANCE!! (i'm delusional)
@AleksandraSetsumeiАй бұрын
hey we got it! cheers!
@ENORELXD2Ай бұрын
The title and the channel's picture is a perfect combo lol
@legoshirochaАй бұрын
You know what I noticed? I noticed that Act 2 looks like it would be about mid stage transformation with Jayce, Vi, Vander and Victor all going with doubts and regret but it’s all building up for a final act Full Transformation as we know them in the game. Caitlyn and Jinx are almost there with Jinx just missing mainly her tattoos. The final act would be definitely about them finding themselves and have their iconic designs from the game. We know Viktor is the secret VGU so he’s going to be the most important one for sure.
@Dat_JonxАй бұрын
Don't want to disappoint you, but they went in a completely different direction with Arcane, retconning a good chunk of the lore and character stories. So even if it's definitely good changes, they won't gonna end like in game.
@legoshirochaАй бұрын
@ yeah I already know all of that. I’m not saying exactly like their games counterparts but probably close enough. At the end the game’s lore and design has been mostly a based for all of the stories outside the game itself.
@cadumartins7213Ай бұрын
@@legoshirocha this doesn't make much sense imo. Jinx's ingame persona is her season 1 acts 2 and 3, psychotic chaotic evil, whereas in season 2 she is more grounded and much more lucid, I believe her master plan for act 3 where in the trailers she's using her ship to fly is simply to leave and move past her old life and old self.
@Derp-flash-go-duuurАй бұрын
Noone cares about that trash ass game.
@tvolz9749Ай бұрын
pretty sure all the champions will not end up where they were in the game because then it would be a very unsatisfying ending because it wouldnt be an ending at all. They have to wrap things up in Arcane. There has to be a conclusion. So they will go beyond of what we know about these characters from LoL.
@dsaid20817Ай бұрын
oh boy...was it...mayhaps... affection holding them together?
@gncsorokkАй бұрын
STOPP OMG
@nadiykia6082Ай бұрын
Best comment
@hsanchezisidoraАй бұрын
It just reinforces that vi was frozen in time and she didn't get to "grow up" and change like the other characters
@melodycomett1796Ай бұрын
Something I was particularly interested in was how cait would handle the whole Jinx situation and honestly it just seems like she could have finished the job if she shot jinx first. At one point Vi already had Jinx under control and Cait had a chance to shoot Jinx but instead lowered her gun, she only raised it again once the little girl was in the picture. I might be overthinking that but this shows to me how Cait’s great empathy is not there because she doesn’t think about how hard it is to Vi. I really don’t dare to say that she wants Vi to proof herself or something like that because that’s just another level of insane and honestly I really want her to go back to her kind self again, there’s still hope for me
@Rumx1412Ай бұрын
I don’t think it’s that deep. You need to understand that both Cait and Vi were in combat mindset in that moment. Or at least Cait was. She checks on Vi and sees that she has the situation under control so she lowers her gun. It’s something that police officers would do in real life too. You hold the target at gun point until you know your partner got this. When Isha got between them and aimed a gun at Vi. Caitlyn’s natural reflex was to go instantly into offense again
@mateoalmandos2131Ай бұрын
@@Rumx1412Agreed. And when Vi goes away from Jinx she goes again to have Jinx at gun point since she might escape (like I said other times, Cait is without a doubt a great shot so there wouldn't trully be a risk of hurting Isha imo)
@melodycomett1796Ай бұрын
@@Rumx1412 you are right it’s probably not that deep It’s just that when that sequence began I knew Vi would not be capable of killing Jinx just like Echo and I was hoping that it would happen differently, like a situation in which Cait is the one going against Jinx. I don’t know it was just sad to think Vi is the one that had to do it 😅
@SoySauce9Ай бұрын
@@melodycomett1796 Vi still has feelings for Jinx no matter how much she tries to hide it from Cait.
@mariaantonia-op8qcАй бұрын
I think something people are overlooking as well is that Cait didn't go down to necessarily KILL Jinx, at least that's why I think she said to Vi "if I go after your sister ALONE, one of us comes back in a box", because she knew her want to kill Jinx as vengeance for her mother would be too strong to control, one of them would end up dead no matter what, but if Vi was with her and managed to find an way to bring Jinx to justice without killing then Cait wouldn't get in the way of that, as long as they didn't let Jinx escape she was fine with it. I think Vi's plea for her not to change did indeed affect Cait, when the fight is about to start Vi told her to take the shot cause they couldn't risk Jinx escaping, but after that failed first shot we actually see Cait deliberately choosing options that wouldn't kill Jinx... If she found the perfect shot on her middle finger she could have shot her head, after that shot Jinx stays still for quite a bit, but Cait doesn't shoot a second time and after Jinx was unarmed and pinned down she actually lowered the weapon. She saw Vi had the situation under control and trusted her... And then because of that Jinx escaped again. I'm glad she did, but from Cait's perspective both times she hesitated because of Vi it fucked everything up.
@J1ntuАй бұрын
2:30 yes she did hit those shots but in this case, she also had the multiple hiccups with the hextech, thanks to Jayce and we know she wasn't close to 100% since she was barely able to walk a straight line
@lightfractalsАй бұрын
this!! she could've easily missed if her hand slipped from being stunted or if Isha moved while she pulled the trigger, and she didn't give a f
@mariusconstantin6057Ай бұрын
Also I doibt in her current mental state she could have made the shot without hitting the girl
@destaenysАй бұрын
I think she missed 2 shots in sequence. The first that took Jinx's finger could have been a headshot and the second that hit Vi she readjusted the aim at Jinx.
@simjustsimАй бұрын
i think cait hitting vi was also because caitlyn didnt want vi to forgive her. she wanted to do something that was unforgivable because she knew she could let her guard down at some point. and if that point came she didnt want vi to forgive her and take her back. i dont know if i explained it correctly but hope you get my point
@UnworshipedietyАй бұрын
The trouble with the shot wasn't that it might have missed. It was that the shot would have hit its target and not have stopped, going out of one head into another head mostly likely due to the power of the hex rifle. There's no question that Caitlyn would have hit the target but that bullet being hex-powered just could have likely have drilled right into that kids head as well. But hey, good video!
@chickensalad3535Ай бұрын
I really don’t think that Caitlyn is dehumanizing the entirety of the under-city. She referred to the people who attacked the memorial as animals, not all Zaunites as a whole. Obviously Caitlyn is largely in the wrong here but I think that characterizing her as entirely hateful and prejudiced is doing the nuances of her character a disservice and unnecessarily demonizes her.
@evaiscoolestАй бұрын
I think they still have the possibilty to redeem themselves because love ultimately wins in the end.
@mateoalmandos2131Ай бұрын
Hope so. Still we have to see how Cait will trully act as a commander and see if she and Vi can still reconcile for all that's to come
@norr7283Ай бұрын
i hope they stay broken up but learn to have empathy for each other in the future
@chickensalad3535Ай бұрын
Agreed.
@chickensalad3535Ай бұрын
@@norr7283Why?
@EiichiroOdaSenseiАй бұрын
@@norr7283this aged well didn't it kiddo, caitvi is endgame always was and always will be😂
@michaelnelson2976Ай бұрын
Oh wow, have gou absolutely nailed this moment here. Gosh dang, so glad I found this channel after watching this season
@pickleik1034Ай бұрын
Unrelated, but you would make a great voice actor if you aren’t one already I’m struggling to find the words, but your voice is so full of character, life and authenticity. I’d love to see you portray a complex character like the ones that make up Arcane’s ensemble cast :)
@forer1906Ай бұрын
Thank you for putting some of the thousands of mixed thoughts and feelings I have about it all into this video. I wanna END myself bcuz I loved them, I literally have them ON MY BED WALL(a drawing of the bed scene). And what hurts the most is because the break up makes COMPLETE sense, they betrayed each other, Caitlyn changed too much, and being with VI who wasn't able to go through with her word and move on from the idea she had of her sister, was impossible to Cait. Cait changed, she was already changed when VI asked her not to, and I'm sure VI already knew that, but refused to believe, and with that request she was trying to prevent Cait from changing even more, trying to somehow rewind, make her go back to how she was bcuz of the request. But Cait was already too far gone, she's broken, and she chose to believe that VI was able to go through with this with her, even tho I think she probably also knew VI wouldn't be able to do it, I think they both expected their kind of betrayals but didn't want to accept it. I understand both of their sides and their motives and that's what hurts the most, I can't hate anyone, I can just cry and jump out of the window because they r too well written- And now after Vi, jinx and vander reunite I just feel bad, bcuz I don't want it to be broken, but also, they got their family back but Jinx destroyed Cait's entire life, and now VI is kinda on Jinx's side so it's even worse I just...... K1LL ME😭😭😭😭😭 (didn't watch episode 6 yet bcuz I'm watching with my family and I can't betray them 😢)
@johanstenfelt1206Ай бұрын
Very well done analysis.
@RedEveTillDawnАй бұрын
I'm still crying
@chickensalad3535Ай бұрын
I’m confident that they’ll get back together and I look forward to it, but I definitely think that the tension of their situation would reach a boiling point eventually.
@gimmeyourrights8292Ай бұрын
Vi refuses to see Cait as a vengeful enforcer, and Cait refuses to see her as anything more than Jinx's sister. They might reconcile but I don't see them lasting.
@amarettopunsch1496Ай бұрын
On the contrary, I do, they just need time
@chickensalad3535Ай бұрын
@@amarettopunsch1496Agreed.
@chickensalad3535Ай бұрын
I think you’re only viewing this at a surface level.
@gimmeyourrights8292Ай бұрын
@chickensalad3535 Not at all, their relationship seems like a codependent one. Cait becomes better off without Vi and replaces her with one of her staff, while Vi ushers her own self destruction. Both had their reasons sure, but only one has an entire government's worth of a support system.
@chickensalad3535Ай бұрын
@@gimmeyourrights8292 Cait is very clearly struggling emotionally without Vi and her scene with Maddie in bed demonstrates how uncomfortable she actually is about their “relationship”. Cait may have attempted to replace Vi with Maddie, but obviously it wasn’t working. Also, although Cait is absolutely in a better position than Vi, her support system is encouraging her down the wrong path. Ambessa is the worst of them all; Caitlyn thinks she’s her mentor but she’s really just grooming her into an asset for her warmongering.
@twentysecondcenturywomanАй бұрын
we are so back baby
@sophiefredrickson9370Ай бұрын
Such good commentary! I need more analysis
@yessicabhutani2750Ай бұрын
us
@taylorparis7228Ай бұрын
These comments are making me too sad😭 can't read omg they MUST make up eventually. They will.
@hotties4eilishАй бұрын
REAL i want them back together 😭😭😭🤞🤞🤞🤞
@gncsorokkАй бұрын
caitlyn on that heisenberg timing
@Luc42Ай бұрын
There are several parallels between Caitlyn and Jinx. They're both gun users, but Jinx is more instinctual while Caitlyn is methodical. Both were highly compassionate before a change and now live with an "us or them" mentality. For Caitlyn it seems more "Piltover vs Zaun" and for Jinx (at least at the moment) it's "me vs everyone else." I also don't think the parallel between Vi leaving Powder and Caitlyn leaving Vi is coincidental either. And I know, people are pointing out that Vi never really meant to leave Powder and was just taking a time out when Marcus (damn you Marcus) arrested her but Powder didn't know that. I'm hoping that this will help Vi empathize with Jinx. Because the deaths of Vander, Mylo, and Claggor definitely accelerated Powder's deteriorating mental state. But Vi also leaving was kind of the last straw. It's very clear that they still hold some deep level of affection for each other, as they both have an opportunity to kill each other and just don't. The nine-year-old Powder that Vi has idealized all these years is most definitely gone, but some part of her sister still lives in Jinx. "I thought you could love me like you used to, even though I'm.... different." -Jinx to Vi
@blankets9714Ай бұрын
I mean there still together in general yall forget this is in the past but when you watch the cinemetaics of league you always see these two paired with each other for example when they fought urgot
@grabb3433Ай бұрын
Good. Very good. We in-line.
@6mephistopheles961Ай бұрын
there is a slight flaw in the moment of the battle with Jinx. The fact that Vi is not trying to separate the child and Jinx is understandable. She doesn't want to kill her sister in the end, but the fact that the determined Cayitlin leaves behind Sevika, when she should have just killed her, Silko's right hand, and not leave the enemy behind her- I can no longer accept. She's a damn third-rate character, she poses a direct threat and she goes out 1 on 1 to fight and nothing. there's no reason not to do it. It turns out that the single-minded Cayitlin is not so decisive. Oh. well, she is only decisive about Jinx! and it's just kindergarten)
@cathepАй бұрын
if we dotn get caitvi endgame im suing
@chickensalad3535Ай бұрын
Same
@rizzlordrueАй бұрын
can u make a video abt isha and jinx? u have a lot of cool theories and opinions so i’d just like to know what ur thoughts are on isha and how you felt about her character being brought into the series/the relevance of her character
@ayyuna7067Ай бұрын
These two man are acc breaking my heart, the fact Caitlyn shot at her indicating to not get in her way broke me. I really hope they make amends and get together again. Caitlyn’s heart has been broken and all that’s taken over is the goal of gaining revenge for her mother which is leading her astray
@peaceandloveusa6656Ай бұрын
I will point out that, yes, Vi did hesitate once she had Jinx down, but just before the child jumps on top of Jinx, Vi *did* recover and pull back for the swing. Jinx would have been dead if not for the child intervening, and it would have been Vi that done it. At that point, Vi's hesitation was more not wanting to traumatize another kid by killing someone the child seems to love in front of the kid (repeating the trauma she and Powder experienced too many times already), and not wanting Caitlyn to become the enforcer that killed Vi's parents in front of her to the child. On top of that, if Vi removed the child so Caitlyn could take the shot, Vi would *also* be the enforcer that killed her parents in front of her by extension. So, yeah, I don't think it was really about protecting her sister. It was about protecting everyone else.
@salusreipublicaeАй бұрын
One more thing. For Cait it is not just personal. She probably already found out (and told Vi) that the council was about to vote for peace the moment Jinxed jinxed it. So all the shit that happened after, the warmongering Ambessa etc., even from zaunite perspective, is entirely Jinx fault. Still, expecting Vi to do the right thing was unspeakably cruel. The entire arc was brilliant.
@FionalahАй бұрын
Unpopular opinion, but you're not wrong. If they are to be endgame, they HAD to break up here.
@theillogicalistАй бұрын
to me, Caitlyn aimed at Jinx and Vi's gauntler happens to be in the way of her shot. like she literally moved her gun aim to the right before shooting, right at Jinx's head. she had no intention of shooting Vi in the first place
@aigeanАй бұрын
Can we please jump to the “relationship” part? 😢
@ifeellikeajoeyАй бұрын
Vi is Spiderman
@claramarydonnelly5895Ай бұрын
Please tell me in the next episodes thay stay together i do not want them to split😢
@DianaZinchenko-y7gАй бұрын
Thanks! This is such a great and interesting analysis!
@gamensch2629Ай бұрын
Still, just imagine Cait slightly fainting a small bit bc of the fight before, she just shoots Vi in the head then and she is dead, imagine the same regarding the kid, both are dead, this is irresponsible of her. Vi is in the right and if hating on Vi isn't enough she even get's hit for it, I wouldn't hate Cait but I wouldn't trust her anymore and I can't be together with a person I don't trust. Recovering that trust can be difficult.
@damianytofficial4507Ай бұрын
I agree with you
@doubleaa6306Ай бұрын
took the words right out of my mouth!
@mateoalmandos2131Ай бұрын
@@gamensch2629 and well add the fact that now Cait became a more powerfull figure on the military force and starts to declare war on the entire City and well for that many from both sides die because of it. Although I do want them to be together again this makes it harder than it already is
@mikaelgauslaa5547Ай бұрын
I don't understand the reasoning. Like whats your priorities here? If the outcome you want is the one minimal casualties, Caitlyn should take the shot 10/10 times. If you don't want her to take the shot, the next option is large scale conflict where 10's if not hundreds of kids might die. Why are you implicitly endorsing the 2nd outcome?
@damianytofficial4507Ай бұрын
@mikaelgauslaa5547 dude Caitlyn didn't had the shot. Watch that scene frame by frame. If she took the shot the bullet would've hone straight through the kid's head and then the jinx's head. No matter how much of good sniper you are , you can't take that chance.
@riverbanzachamploo9725Ай бұрын
Ngl i agree 100% I was the biggest caitvi shipper before season 2. But yeah i don't seem them recovering from this, and i honesty don't want them too. The way vi dropped her gauntlets when cait kissed her showing just how much she trusted and felt safe around her. The way she openly approached her despite her threatening aura to calm her down. Only to be struck by her in the same place as that she had helped her heal, when they were first learning to trust each other. Caityn was her first gentle touch after years of being abused in prison only to become the same as the rest of them(lowkey a tad bit worse since she'sa whole fascists dictator now). That's why i find it quite ironic that Cait says things to Vi like: "I thought you were on our side." &"I keep telling myself you're different but you're just like her, you have her blood in your veins." She says this because she believes it'll cut the deepest, which it does, but i believe it does for more than 1 reason. Not only because her savior is literally dehumanizing her in ways she doesn't even fully get, but because it reflects exactly what Vi thinks of Cait. Vi was willing to betray her very own people because she trusted that what cait was doing was for the better good of all of them including Zaun. She believed Jinx needed to be taken to prevent things from escalating to a full blown war. But Cait no longer had any intentions of helping Zaun. She saw them as feilthy animals, that stoop so low as to attack a memorial. For that needed to eradicated. So Vi in real time was learning that her beloved was not on her side. Instead that she is no different from her mother. Using her position of power to further oppress her people. So yeah imma need Vi to never where that damn uniform again. I know she's a cop in LoL but idc.
@ee8002Ай бұрын
Exactly. All of that!
@chickensalad3535Ай бұрын
They’ve gotten back together it seems and I’m ecstatic. Your characterization of Caitlyn is not accurate.
@riverbanzachamploo9725Ай бұрын
@@chickensalad3535 I wasn't really trying to characterize caitlyn at all tbh. I was just trying to focus on Vi's pov and why this was such a devastating blow for her. I wasn't tryna make caityn out to be the big bad wolf, just how scary she looked to vi in the moment of heartbreak. I'm glad their back together too. Even tho I couldn't foresee it. It was done well.
@travispage6202Ай бұрын
But Toonaholic You think they're gonna get back together?
@vinogr00nko93Ай бұрын
I don't think the creators are ready for the Riots (hehe) if they don't
@gimmeyourrights8292Ай бұрын
I think they'll get back together.....as coworkers, it'll take them a lot more time before they become anything more again.
@hosh._1iАй бұрын
Trigger warning!! I am forever a Vi supporter and defender, and I know that Cait has been through a lot loosing her mother by her "gf's" sister she was able to kill to pervert the loss but it wouldn't be right. I can't hate Caitlyn, but start feeling less and less sympathetic for her- honestly. Just if you compare Vi and caitlyn's situation, Vi lost her family, her parents, her adoptive father and brothers (+ and sister, at least atp), not having any memory of them, not a picture, maybe claggor's googles- it. Also, Vander, the kids and her biological parent's were just laying somewhere, not even have any memorial grave or anything, all while Caitlyn's mother left caitlyn the key, gets a coffin that costs more than Vi ever had in her life and honored by the entire city. Vi is eaten up with guilt and becomes something that was the reason her real parents died, she's been trough so much more and since caitlyn was the only person she had and loosing her by just simply protecting a child (caitlyn missed her shot like 2 times wtf) is actually painful.
@chickensalad3535Ай бұрын
Caitlyn was the victim of multiple terrorist attacks, kidnapped by the firelights, kidnapped AGAIN while naked, had a gun held to her head and was knocked out, had her mother killed, survived another terrorist attack at her mother’s memorial, and inherited the role of leading her nation in the midst of civil war. I am also an eternal Vi supporter but I think that it is ridiculous to undermine Caitlyn’s suffering. Also, both Vi and Jinx have acted made mistakes because of their trauma.
@astridtrisorio4894Ай бұрын
As a queer person it bothers that a potential amazing relationship has been cut down without even exploring all the nuances. Quite sad to see them break up, i don´t believe they´ll be together, in fact i sense that it´ll be even worse.
@evelynn1173Ай бұрын
As another queer person I don't mind the fact that they break up. We don't have enough complex relationships that break off for other reasons than homophobia
@chickensalad3535Ай бұрын
They’ll get back together. In fact, the kind’ve already have. I really don’t understand the perspective that anything that happened in act 1 was completely irreparable.
@astridtrisorio4894Ай бұрын
@@chickensalad3535 that´s one thing that i didn´t like, i would have expect some sort of resentment from Vi towards Cait, but it was kind of nothing happened. Cait treated Vi like a shit.
@BabyJeusАй бұрын
I would argue that caitl didn’t miss but vi glove blocked it just like in game cait can’t miss with her ult unless someone gets in the way and takes the shot
@ArcanehypeАй бұрын
Good vid and liked your points. Except cait and the strike team only attacked the chembarons(3 objectives) and their hideouts not all of zaun and they didn’t hurt or attack innocent civilians. Also when she says animals I don’t think she is referring to all zaunites she’s meant the chembarons.
@yessicabhutani2750Ай бұрын
she did hurt people due to the poison in the air. if you think about it they did not know if the place they flooded with poison had innocents in it or not.
@ArcanehypeАй бұрын
@ in the montage it was the chembarons hideouts and the the other was the arcade
@chickensalad3535Ай бұрын
Agreed
@TheSilentLamb7Ай бұрын
Saying Caitlyn considers everyone in Zaun as animals is an wild exageration.
@mateoalmandos2131Ай бұрын
Adding the fact that she trully went against her own mother for the condition the people of Zaun were in once she knew the truth. Sure she might going to hate more of them in the future but I don't think she would trully go and exterminate every single citizen even if she could
@gimmeyourrights8292Ай бұрын
If she didn't, she wouldn't have gassed them especially knowing how they suffered in that toxic environment.
@TheSilentLamb7Ай бұрын
@@gimmeyourrights8292 on combatants and Vi did that too, as Jinx point out to her. Very sad how most people have no media literacy and the most profound though they can come up about such beautifully writen complex characters is "the one I like good others evil."
@gimmeyourrights8292Ай бұрын
@@TheSilentLamb7 Caitlyn was the Commander, she ordered for the gas to be dispersed, Vi followed her orders because she's an idealist who believed that she was doing what was right for the city.
@chickensalad3535Ай бұрын
@@gimmeyourrights8292She chose the most humane option. The alternative was a full scale invasion that would have resulted in absolute carnage.
@anabrans2Ай бұрын
Vi did not hesitate. She started her punch just before Isha arrived, and it is messed up she is willing to kill Jinx even being ok with Caitlyn doing it, but stops once there is a random child involved..
@ΘΘΝΘ-β5ξАй бұрын
Did she needed to kill a kid or what?
@gimmeyourrights8292Ай бұрын
Jinx was ready to die.
@SoySauce9Ай бұрын
She 100% hesitated and still loves her sister, during the fight Vi even caught Jinx while she was falling so she wouldn't be too hurt.
@xCoatlicuexАй бұрын
Did we see the same show, because it's clear how Vi is in conflict the whole fight and NOT ok with Cait killing Jinx
@SoySauce9Ай бұрын
@@xCoatlicuex It's so obvious right?!?
@graey13Ай бұрын
people hate seeing lesbians happy
@shuggie2930Ай бұрын
Reasons men don't get opinions on lesbian relationships:
@papitas_stan2Ай бұрын
Idk how tf they're going to get back together, IF they're even getting back together at the end. I know they are canonically a couple in game, but I doubt it here.
@user-vp6yq4fm5uАй бұрын
They definitely going makeup. Just the climax and also there’s a love scene later on the acts gotta be them
@randomdude8852Ай бұрын
Unfortunately Caits gonna cheat on Vi. Thats the only confirmed scene for now.
@papitas_stan2Ай бұрын
@@randomdude8852 yes, with Maddie, f*ck
@yoponiacz7385Ай бұрын
@@randomdude8852 its acually gonna be fking maddie xddd
@geoffreygetzin3972Ай бұрын
@@randomdude8852 Cant cheat if your not together.
@dark90725 күн бұрын
Man, they did so fucking wrong with my girl vi and with vander. These two really deserve a happy life dammit.
@livinginnonreality2332Ай бұрын
But at the end Cait changed again. She no longer carries that anger and hate within herself. (SPOILER) We even see her smile, when she realizes that Jinx survived. I think she just needed time to process what happened to her mother. She probably made jinx out to be some sort of monster in her mind, but when she saw that jinx has changed and is remorseful, her hatred subsided.
@Desertfox201Ай бұрын
I mean that's her sister that she once loved and protected, there's always a chance she won't be able to do it yet Caitlyn insisted that Vi join her. It makes for a good story but doesn't make much sense.
@norr7283Ай бұрын
they were cute together but Vi can do so much better :(
@StarDreamsStudiosАй бұрын
Firstly Caitlyn could have 100% missed the shot. Even if Vi took the child off of jinx during the struggle to pull the child off Cait probably would have kept shooting, which is proven by the fact she kept trying to shoot jinx even when Vi was standing right infront of her, and might have killed the child. If Vi had managed to get the child off that child could have 100% escaped out of her grasp and leap at Jinx and got shot or Jinx probably would have just moved out of the way cause something tells me Cait isn’t the one she wanted killing her. Jinx isn’t just going to lie there and die unless she wants to or she physically can’t fight back. Either way Caitlyn would have more then likely missed and the fact Jinx’s finger got shot off proves that.
@CatwHolyWaterАй бұрын
Haven’t watched the video yet, are these good reasons or are you in denial like the rest of us? Edit: I have made a severe error in my judgement. I now see you’ve skipped right to acceptance. Loved the analysis as always
@AgressiveSillenceАй бұрын
Asking her not to change? After betraying Caitlyn's trust.. huh not realistic.
@begum.c7025Ай бұрын
Really well said😭
@ayiir7Ай бұрын
Why you gotta make us watch the domestic violence scene again😕
@emilialeblanc712Ай бұрын
And there's Maddie
@DJET723Ай бұрын
We got baited and switched so damn badly
@therearenoshortcuts9868Ай бұрын
Maybe Cait is disgusted by how Vi is "blind" to the fact that Jinx is a lost cause
@treyrobertson7187Ай бұрын
Good lesbian couple representation
@jhangonzalez8061Ай бұрын
Cause you're a monster
@franciscaferreira9062Ай бұрын
Thanks for the spoiler man
@avalancheglace548Ай бұрын
yo fr wtf 😔
@sempio6378Ай бұрын
I saw in the preview for the trailer(and also for episode four)she turned emo When the break up so bad she turned into a pit fighter and an emo
@kennedynelson7835Ай бұрын
@toonaholic loved your video and I jus wanna add the inspiration I have by watching yo videos hope, hope to see more 🙏🏾
@brak7203Ай бұрын
Caitlin is Breaking Bad
@SoySauce9Ай бұрын
At which point did Caitlyn become Caitlenberg? Bravo Christian
@Mirage_EditzzzАй бұрын
I’m so oblivious😭 I didn’t think they were actually dating
@origllloАй бұрын
Bro Vi is crying. Crying Vi is bad. That's all I need to know.
@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343Ай бұрын
Honestly Vi and Cait have had problems long before Jinx murdered her mother. Them breaking up was not a surprise in the slightest.
@robertjovicic7455Ай бұрын
Diffrent beast heeheheeheeheheh!
@nej6246Ай бұрын
I just hate this situationship. Especially in the context of Jinx. It's frustrating to see Vi trying so hard for her and Caitlyn to work out only for it to blow up right in her face, all just to have her own relationship with Jinx deteriorating. (Plus personal bias Caitlyn does not deserve Vi AT ALL)
@Cholomander-eq6crАй бұрын
Can anyone agree with me that, that one scene where we see Kaitlyn and Maggie is just stupid bc I feel like it was just there because of some diversity not saying that I don’t like the lesbian stuff I don’t care if it’s in there the stuff with Kaitlyn and vi is great story. The scene with Maggie and Kaitlyn just didn’t have any meaning besides diversity but that was just my opinion on the episode the rest of the show is good
@evalyne1105Ай бұрын
it does have meaning. its a parallel to both vi and caitlyn coping from losing someone they love vi goes to the pits, gain money, spend it all on alcohol caitlyn goes with maddie to cope with her loneliness
@JavelinAngel1295Ай бұрын
I could care less about their stupid break up and Vi's croc tears. I cared way more with Jinx sobbing when she was running in that alleyway after what she saw in the arcade she was repairing. Vi is nothing more than the Mordecai from Regular Show in this show. More than willing to be complicit in gassing her own people and killing her own sister just to get laid.
@vinogr00nko93Ай бұрын
oh ok so trauma as an excuse works only if you murder people in cold blood got it
@Tvoya_mama_neploxaАй бұрын
Womp womp
@naviekd2409Ай бұрын
You’re saying all of that as if Jinx hasn’t been proved to be a psycho terrorist who kills anyone she dislikes on sight without even thinking if they are good or bad.
@Selkie_17Ай бұрын
Cry about it 🤷🏻♀️
@emylahАй бұрын
shhhh you're a jinx stan, stop yapping shit about Vi
@silver7trАй бұрын
Vi has a huge problem expecting other people to stay the same. she spent 7 years in a cell and she can't get used to the fact, that. everything changed. in prison you have a routine: wake up, breakfast, working, lunch, working, dinner, sleep. almost every day was the same for her and she can't get rid of jail habits and style of life. and we'll see her recreating a jail life when she is in her pitfight era, bc she does not have a clue how to live a normal life without self destroying 🥲