Reasons Why Your Float May Suck (TToTW#99)

[@j.s.3414]

Ive shot with my feet perfectly square for a while, and I always start to the right of the target...going to try opening up slightly. Its funny, I can tell something is off, but archery coaches are often so focused on DL, anchor point, and release that ive NEVER had one mention my stance as a potential problem area. Edit: good lord, just standing in a full draw position with my front foot slightly opened up... immediately felt some pressure come off my shoulder and could feel it fall into alignment. THANK GOD I CLICKED ON THIS VIDEO 😂

[@rcrchery]

It’s such a simple fix but it makes a huge impact for sure! Glad it helped you out!

[@nathancourtney2006]

One of the most sincere presentations of experience I’ve seen in a while.

[@rcrchery]

Thank you for that! I appreciate the comment!

[@robertopasquini9776]

excellent! thank you.

[@rcrchery]

Thank you for watching!

[@willardivins3736]

Natural point of aim. Essential to reducing the workload of getting on and staying on target. This component of archery also applies to when you're handling "cordless hole punchers". Shifting your feet, or whatever part of your body is in contact with the ground is the beginning. Aiming, then closing your eyes for a moment and reopening them to reveal if your aim still has you on target, or has drifted. Shift your feet to acquire the target as necessary. This is my second video of yours I have watched. I am now sub'd in 🏁

[@rcrchery]

Thank you for the subscription! Glad to have you here as part of the channel!!

[@camomano2]

Great video. I’m liking the concept on your 100th video. Using your clients to show their issues is a good idea. I’m looking forward to it. Thanks Robert

[@rcrchery]

Awesome, thank you!

[@mackellyman5642]

Foot position (Float) brought me to the content; it's everything in Shotgun. Excellent content.

[@rcrchery]

Thank you for that! It’s awesome to hear areas of crossover for the same concepts too.

[@shaneg8531]

Awesome work dude! I've been watching you since the beginning and even after 20yrs of myself bowhunting/target shooting I learn so much off your work. Kudos sir!!!

[@rcrchery]

Thank you for that! Glad to know you're liking the videos and thank you for watching them all this time!

[@rookie_hero8682]

Thank you for sharing, this is great info and different from what I have heard from most archery instructors!

[@rcrchery]

Thank you for the comment and watching the video! I like to take a biomechanical approach to everything I do for sure.

[@timbow50]

The natural point of hold/ aim is so important. When one learns where to set their feet causing the torso to be at the exact angle so the drawn bow is right on target they are way ahead of 99% of archers. We see so many that don’t have a clue and they are fighting it the second they come to anchor. I love watching these KZbin videos of TAC 3-d events and seeing the 5000 ways people shoot. And when I see someone address the target with their feet and body set as best as possible they are the ones that hit the target.

[@rcrchery]

This is absolutely true!! It makes life much easier with a simple adjustment for the foundation of the shot.

[@75superfan]

I'm definitely going to work on this. I've tried some of these things like opening up my stance and getting a proper grip. How I set my shoulder and possibly draw length may be the last piece of the puzzle. Awesome video

[@rcrchery]

Draw length and loop length plays a big role in steadiness for sure. Once you nail that you're golden.

[@ApexPredatorOutdoors]

I used to jave a lot of problems with my bow shoulser. Fixing my feet helped a lot, also i did extend my draw length a bit, because i was scrunching up to bring the string to my nose!

[@rcrchery]

Nice! It makes a big difference for sure.

[@edstanley9074]

Excellent instruction. As a hunter, primarily, vs target shooting, my struggle is the stance. My climber stand platform is plenty large enough that its not an issue, but in a ladder stand, my platform can be much smaller. Therfore, I try and lean into the rail for added stability. Also, my harness strap alows me to get more steady by leaning into the shot providing more stability. Just my situation of concern, but I really appreciate your instructions. Thank you.

[@rcrchery]

Thank you for watching. These are some concerns I need to figure out a video for in the future.

[@alaingiboulet6632]

superbe vidéo ! mais un point mérite d être souligné à propos de la façon de s ouvrir un peu : c est ne pas oublier de verrouiller son bassin , ce qui augmente la stabilité ( surtout dans le vent ) … merci pour vos bons conseils 👏🤝

[@Colin_Ingalls]

loving the content man! Its helped me a lot in my competitive archery

[@rcrchery]

I appreciate you watching and also the comment! Glad you’re liking the content.

[@Bryan-wc3et]

Love theses kind of videos, picked up a good tip about the shoulder.🏹🏹

[@rcrchery]

Glad you got something from it! Thanks for watching!

[@workinonitsteve]

Great video, grabbing my bow to go try this. Thanks 👍

[@rcrchery]

Go rock it! Let me know if you have any issues or questions.

[@RickSeymour54]

I’m honestly not feeling much in shoulder movement when I put my hand on it and I have a very open stance whereas both my feet are at a 45 with the front foot as far back as in line with the ankle of the other leg. Another video you had made me change my rear bar which helped immensely with my float. I would be very solid but as soon as I moved my thumb on my hinge release my pin would drop. I once spoke with Liko Arroyo father and asked him how does she hold her bow at a 45 and he stated she can’t worry about that as her hands are so tiny. No matter I enjoy your content 😊

[@rcrchery]

Usually if your pin drops as you move your thumb on a hinge it’s because you’re losing tension against the backwall. It’s a hesitation to keep the shot from firing. Sometimes the hinge is too fast when this happens and slowing it down can help. Sometimes it’s just a mental block to overcome.

[@RickSeymour54]

@@rcrchery yikes 😇Thanks for the response. I am “always” pushing the envelope on making the hinge hotter. Someone that shoots well told me I count to 1,000 Three and if the arrow is not gone I let down. I’ve been down that rabbit hole. I’ll back my hinge off 1/4 turn and give that a go. And…I’ll let you know. Thank you

[@rcrchery]

@@RickSeymour54 Check this video out for you around the 5 minute mark. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2bVi2iYr6h2g6c

[@RickSeymour54]

@@rcrchery Really good video. I take my thumb totally off the peg, I believe I hold somewhat loose and my hand/elbow just pulls back relaxing my hand which rotates the hinge. Backed off by about 13 degrees on the hinge and each time thought it’s not going to go off keep pulling. Perhaps and believe I had less anxiety which I wasn’t even aware of having. Closed my stance up more like your picture with the black shoes. Didn’t have the instant pin drop when my thumb came off the peg and I actually shot better than my usual. Pretty amazing you figured this out so quickly 🏆 🏆 🏆

[@rcrchery]

@@RickSeymour54 Glad it's helping for you! This is what I do and thankfully I've dealt with a lot of issues over the years with my own shooting to help me teach others as well as getting to talk with a lot of archers too. Trying to be relaxed on the index at draw will help a ton on execution.

[@sirhenrystalwart8303]

I really appreciate your videos!

[@rcrchery]

Thanks you for watching!!

[@cragar]

Appreciate the content. I definitely shoot with a closed and sometimes neutral stance. Never had any formal training - Will have to do some practice with a more open stance and see how this feels. I am shooting 4x a week or more, and my back is fatigued on the back-to-back days that I do a two or three day sprint. I'm currently running a Bowtech Core SS w/ a 29.5" draw at 65# weight. I'm also hearing different opinions about intentional bias on your stabilizers - would like to know your opinion on the matter. I moved mine around the other day to play with intentional bias, but wasn't in love with it. I do like the "neutral" bubble on my draw - gets me to target pretty quickly. Thanks!

[@rcrchery]

When you adjust the stance you may find you need a little shorter draw length, just a heads up. It'll close that triangle off some and get the shoulder more engaged. I like a little front weight bias on the bars and I personally prefer side bar to have a little bias, but not much. It gives me something to push against and helps me hold steadier. You may find you like the bias a little more with the open stance, but if not there's nothing wrong with a balanced system left and right as long as the grip is okay and you're consistent.

[@TD3_Archery]

Geez I’m all off then lol, I actually aim both feet at like a 45 from the target. Idk why but it feels normal. But I’ve been struggling with from front and rear shoulders lately. These are good tips

[@rcrchery]

haha well then here's a change to reset. That could be perfectly fine on your feet placement depending on what's working for you. You're open which is a great start no matter what. Thanks for watching!

[@Illustrator76]

Quick question. I've been having this issue for a good while now, and I've done everything that I can to find a solution with no luck. As I'm holding my pin over the target, it keeps wanting to float LEFT of the 10-ring only. I'm not getting the left-to-right figure-8 float that I should be getting, only my pin staying centered on the 10-ring for maybe 2 seconds before it just wants to float way left. Do you know what could be causing this? On a Vegas target, sometimes I'm so far left that I'm not even on any of the scoring rings anymore.

[@rcrchery]

It could be a drifting issue which is something I cover in my coaching program at the very beginning. It could be a form of aiming anxiety too. If it's that we'd have to run through some drills to figure out the cause of the problem and then find out what needed to be done to fix it. Email me and we can talk more and figure out the best way to approach things! [e-mail]

[@colingregory7464]

My major issue at the moment seems to be my back elbow is wandering, sometimes I do a Mikey Chicken wing and i usually end up loosing full draw, the rest of the time it just doesn't find a fixed point in space.

[@rcrchery]

Sounds like a form and alignment issue with the fitment of the bow's draw length and the loop length. Possibly peep too. I have a coaching package for fitment and form if you'd like to get it worked out. It's $30. If you're interested in it let me know. My email is [e-mail]

[@colingregory7464]

Thanks for the offer but at the moment fixing my issues is my major source of "joy ?"

[@rcrchery]

That’s the good part about our sport. Being able to put focus into so many different areas can be therapeutic.

[@sethpierrepont9738]

Tim, where are you located? Where do you travel to teach? Thanks

[@rcrchery]

I’m in Texas. I have built online specific training courses that are interactive with myself though. I have helped people all over the globe for years now with them. Send me an email And we can talk more about it. [e-mail]

[@stephanepiat3683]

Thx - great videos as usual. Could you explain why sometimes the bow kicks out/ snaps to the left instead of lunging forward on the shot. Is it an alignement issue?

[@rcrchery]

Thank you! It’s possible it’s the grip torque causing it. Collapsing on the shot and the shoulder creeping up causing the hand to torque could be a possibility as well. Those are the two common issues I see a lot and would check first.

[@stephanepiat3683]

Thx - on the look out for these flaws

[@rcrchery]

@@stephanepiat3683 If that's not it let me know what you're going through from there and we can brainstorm.

[@johnsmith4933]

Maybe not for this video but im having issues finding my correct DL. My float sucks in general but wheh i change my DL up or down i dont see or feel any difference. Maybe this has to do with total inconsistency in my form in general?

[@rcrchery]

Could be overall form/alignment with the fitment. I'm up to help if you'd like me to. We can pick a coaching package and work from there. My email is [e-mail]

[@johnsmith4933]

@rcrchery thanks for the reply. After finishing this video and looking at others on your channel I definitely know my grip is way off. I typically have the grip resting ON my life line and all my fingers on the bow. imo you are the best source for clear and concise form videos on KZbin. You bring up alot of topics no one else does aswell.

[@rcrchery]

I really appreciate the good words here! Thank you for watching the videos!

[@johnsmith4933]

@rcrchery I also have found when recording myself I lean back. Do you have a video addressing this?

[@rcrchery]

@@johnsmith4933 You can place an arrow point down into your waistband and let the nock be a little below your armpit. It'll give you instance feedback on this. Then draw with your head over your front foot on the initial part of the draw and settle into a level position.

[@bornepatrol]

I’m assuming my float sucks more now as I have degenerative osteoarthritis in the AC Joint and Glenhumeral head. It’s definitely decreased my accuracy or at least it feels that way.

[@rcrchery]

Sorry to hear that's going on! That's probably a leading factor, I agree. I would look into subconscious aiming more and trying to accept the float motion you have now and over time going forward. It could help you still hit the middle more by natural synching and body timing. Backing off overall weight on the rig could help you too.

[@ujjawal..720]

Sir how to release properly in compund bow

[@rcrchery]

There's lots that goes into this. I have several videos on the channel over release execution though based on the type of release you're using and then just in general for shot execution.

[@mayhem035]

So i was into 3d shooting, had a bowtech ss34, no getting to target and actually getting a reckoning Gen 2 . Does that bow jump a lot? I don't think it does compare to the other target bows. What are you experiencing with your new bow vs other?

[@rcrchery]

It'll have more jump than the SS34 but it's not as much as some other target bows on the market. There's not much vibration at all either. Compared to the Supra I was shooting, it's similar but less jump forward for sure.

[@mayhem035]

​@@rcrchery Nice ! Thanks for sharing your shooting experience with your bow. That's what I thought. Didnt had a chance to shoot one .. I loved my ss34 but moving to target archery now. Can't wait to get my hands on it and shoo 18 and 50 meters target competitions! Since I started shooting targets, all the members of my club want to do it! Whent viral on them! As we dont have that mutch support pour compound training here, I share your channel with all of them. Keep up the good work and hope your injury is getting better! Cheers from Montreal, Quebec, Canada 🇨🇦. ✌️👍👌🎯♥️

[@rcrchery]

Thank you very much for sharing the videos! That's awesome to hear everyone's getting into the target side of things. That's a big passion of mine for sure. The ultimate goal of accuracy.

[@artazcuna1623]

👌👌👌👍👍👍❤️❤️

[@rcrchery]

Thank you for watching!

[@Stickbow1980]

Then you got the recurve guy that comes in with no sights , using fingers taking shots while he sits, kneels , twist all kinds of ways and starts busting knocks...lol