Daniel Smith Primary & Secondary Watercolors - Comparing Old vs New Trio Sets!

[@InLiquidColor]

Thanks for letting us know, Becky! I hadn't seen the new sets yet. It is interesting that they seemed to move away from the granulating colors except for adding the imperial purple!

[@BeckyTregear]

@@InLiquidColor I saw the "new sets" in a local store, and fell down a rabbit hole of all the sets. 🤣 I'm a big fan of your channel BTW! 😀

[@veystone2580]

Im suprised they decided to make a primary set with that red and blue! 😮 I dont know why I was expecting a QuinacridoneRose as a red and a Phthalo Blue Green Shade as a blue!

[@BeckyTregear]

@@veystone2580 Yes, they went warm instead of cool, didn't they! I love both Quin Rose and Phthalo Blue as well.

[@veystone2580]

@@BeckyTregear Yeah!!!! Marketing to make us buy more... better colors for the mixes... 😒 Oh well... I love my Daniel Smith's anyway😅

[@INCWorks]

I wonder what Daniel Smith's reasoning was for the switch? Some transparency, on their part, would go a long way towards minimizing consumer confusion. 🥴 But you've done a great service for watercolorists in spotlighting these changes and demonstrating the old alongside the new. 👍

[@BeckyTregear]

@@INCWorks Thank you, I was so confused doing the research for all of these sets, it took me a while to collect them all. 😂

[@sarahmitchell9247]

Really fun painting!

[@BeckyTregear]

@@sarahmitchell9247 Thank you 😊

[@attorneycarissa]

Beautiful painting!

[@BeckyTregear]

@@attorneycarissa Thank you 😊

[@carrollwilson5169]

Interesting video, the different set are quite different. Love Daniel Smith watercolour. Love the eagle, he’s stunning, and his eye is fantastic.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@carrollwilson5169 Thank you! 😊

[@MirandaWatsonArt]

It was really fun to see the differences between these two sets. I would also have hard time choosing between them, so I'm glad I don't have to! Love your bird painting.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@MirandaWatsonArt Can't choose, so have all sets, lol! 😂 Thank you, it was a fun painting to do.

[@AlisaSauer]

Beautiful painting, Becky!

[@BeckyTregear]

@@AlisaSauer Thank you 😊

[@awatercolourist]

First! Let’s get into iiiiiit 😄

[@vhacker71]

Great video! I love the eagle painting 🎉

[@BeckyTregear]

@@vhacker71 Thank you 😊

[@lyndalseaton9777]

Thanks, Becky, for this update i had just bought both primary and secondary sets on a great deal in july, now i know that they have been updated. I will keep my eye open for the new versions on sale. On another note, if you are still in Western Australia i hope you enjoy the lovely winters day today, Saturday. Which happens to be forecast to reach 24 degrees, so enjoy the sun.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@lyndalseaton9777 I hope you find them on sale! We are in Esperance, and the weather has been absolutely perfect today! We drove around Great Ocean Drive and visited Stonehenge; it was so awesome. 😆

[@jackielubeck]

Nice video.... and nice painting. going to get them I'm thinking....

[@BeckyTregear]

@@jackielubeck hopefully they're still well priced! They go on sale every so often.

[@dneel468]

Great video Becky, love your bird! I think I like the brightness of the new but I love undersea in landscapes. I think we need them all!

[@BeckyTregear]

@@dneel468 I agree, haha! 😆

[@qvmarlins3506]

I love my Daniel Smith paints. I trying to avoid buying more color so so I learn color theory and mixing better. Love your bright eagle!

[@BeckyTregear]

@@qvmarlins3506 Thank you! Their range is so huge now, it's so hard to choose new colours and it's always great to see how many mixes you can get with a smaller set of tubes.

[@shadowguard3578]

I love the eagle and granulating background, thanks!

[@BeckyTregear]

@@shadowguard3578 Thank you 😊

[@sunnyschramm9650]

super interesting video. thx for that becky 🥰 all these colors and mixes are great - can not choose 😃

[@BeckyTregear]

@@sunnyschramm9650 Thank you! I find it hard to choose as well...they're all good! 😊

[@Petra0612]

Thank you, very informative! And your painting is beautiful!!!

[@BeckyTregear]

@@Petra0612 Thank you 😊

[@art-alchemy]

Becky, Bravo with all of your research. I did not know Ds had change their trio colors. My Cabazole does granulate when is painted heavily. I did notice DS change a little their formulation because my old watercolors are super hard to rewet and all of my new DS watercolors from one year ago until now are super easy to rewet even when dry. Someone commented on one of my DS older videos where I was showing why I had fallen out of love with DS watercolors. So a year ago I bought a new 12 set from Jacksons and they were just great. This last month we had amazing deals of DS watercolors so I bought 3 different sets all with new colors I never try before and were just stunning. The half pan set of inspirational colors are as great as the tubes but more convenient. Your birds are always so pretty but this one is my favorite. Maria

[@BeckyTregear]

@@art-alchemy That's really interesting! My original tube of Ultramarine blue has a tendency to dry really solid...I wonder if newer tubes have changed. I'll probably end up getting another one soon for that. I loved all of these paints in the sets, there are just so many options in the Daniel Smith range now, it's so hard to pick! 😂 And thank you ♥️

[@marielouiseweeksb33attitud33]

Wonderful paints. Must get some. Wonderful painting.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@marielouiseweeksb33attitud33 thank you!

[@lylebobroske5172]

Love this. Eagle/Makaw. 😊😊❤❤ Karen from Canada

[@BeckyTregear]

@@lylebobroske5172 Haha, thank you! 😊

[@diadumenos82]

You made a very nice and interesting mixing. Quinacridone Sienna is a wonderful colour. Not mentioning your eagle/ hawk, it’s wonderful ❤

[@BeckyTregear]

Thank you, and I love how vibrant that colour is. 😊

[@judywaddell6065]

luv your little wave, and the bird!!!!!.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@judywaddell6065 Thank you! 😊

[@markyteo]

I wished your video came out before the DS sale on Jackson's Art. I got the Ultramarine Blue instead of the French Ultramarine. Big lover of granulation!

[@BeckyTregear]

@@markyteo I know...I timed that poorly! Blame the road trip messing up my schedule. 😂

[@markyteo]

@@BeckyTregear haha don't worry, there'll be another sale soon enough! Hope you are having fun at the nullabor. There's a couple (onepackwonders) who have done almost 2 round-trips around Australia. They might give you some travel inspiration!

[@debsmith7050]

Wouldn't we love to meet this creative fella?... Great comparison

[@BeckyTregear]

@@debsmith7050 Thank you 😊

[@zenlife1200]

The old primary and secondary sets were my very first Daniel Smith watercolors and then I added single tubes as I grew my paint palette. I've always used the Quin burnt orange in place of burnt sienna. I actually haven't bought burnt sienna yet. I've discovered that quite a few of my favorite go to colors are available in stick form so as my tubes run out I'm switching to sticks for those colors. No more waiting for my paints to dry in my travel palette, just cut off some stick and off you go. I also love the price of the sticks, I can buy them on a special for $9 cheaper than the cheapest series 1 tube and all the different series are the same price in stick form.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@zenlife1200 They're a great bargain, the sticks!

[@melissaaldosari8024]

Gorgeous!😍

[@MrsBarnabas]

Hi, Becky! What a *glorious* painting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I slowed you right down cos wanted more time to enjoy what you were doing! 😄 I think your commentary on this video really, truly, absolutely reflects your love of bright colours and your Southern Hemisphere roots! 😄 For a landscape artist (in Europe and North América at least, though elsewhere around the world, too, those primary and granulating colours are absolute essentials for the palette, as are the secondaries for creating those beautiful muted shades for shadows and the zillion colours needed for the different seasons. I discovered problems with my 'normal (Winsor and Newton) 'palette the first time we travelled outside Northern Europe, and once back home, spent some time working out how to mix those Mediterranean colours - I had to swap out one colour for Permanent Rose as nothing else would do for that beautiful, clear, bluish-red bougainvillea, and to mix with French Ultra for the rest!!! And of course, now in SW France, for the first time, discovering the need for a couple or three _new_ colours (as I think I may have mentioned 'once or twice' before! 😄)

[@BeckyTregear]

@@MrsBarnabas Thank you, I had a lot of fun with the colours! Having a big colour palette is helpful for travelling as landscape changes so much! I've seen a wide variety of colours just on this trip. In Greece, my most used paint was Buff Titanium because all of their buildings and steps etc are that exact shade, lol!

[@MrsBarnabas]

@@BeckyTregear _"In Greece, my most used paint was Buff Titanium because all of their buildings and steps etc are that exact shade, lol!_" And a lot of those here, too - or aged pastels / greys for which it is needed to created those! And for mixing for rocks ... I have you and Vee to thank for guiding me there!!!! 😊

[@rebeccah7689]

Thanks for the comparison video! I need to replenish my French ultramarine and was wondering if I should save a little and go with ultramarine instead. Nope! I'd miss the granulation - so helpful to see them side by side.

[@BeckyTregear]

I'm glad it helped, and yes stick with the French version for that delicious granulation. 😁

[@LuciaDeGiovanni]

Great comparison, thank you! Question - isn't the pigment PO49 the one that is discontinued? That's why those tubes of paint go for a pretty penny on the used market...

[@InLiquidColor]

PO48 has also now been discontinued. Most companies have already phased it out, but DS still has a supply.

[@LuciaDeGiovanni]

@@InLiquidColor Thank you Denise for clarifying - glad I have both! By the way, love your channel and I have been a long time subscriber

[@BeckyTregear]

@@LuciaDeGiovanni I think Daniel Smith bought out the last of PO48 and they have a hoard of it so it should still be around for a while until they run out. 😊

[@amypanddirtytoo1926]

Original. Beyond a doubt the original ones are my favorites. I never bought those sets, but i own 96 Daniel Smith tubes and have all of those colors (yes, I know I know, consumerism yadda yadda yadda. Don't care. I love my paints). The original sets have colors I love so much more than the new sets.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@amypanddirtytoo1926 DS paints are lovely so I don't blame you you for collecting lots of them. 😊 I like that all of the colours from both sets could be bought individually to get the favourites. But the sets themselves are a lot cheaper to buy here in Australia.

[@amandahodgin9316]

Undersea green is one of my favourites.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@amandahodgin9316 I'm glad I finally have it! 😊

[@greekveteran2715]

Is Undersea Green a good choice for forest landscapes painting trees? Where do you use it if I may ask please?

[@BeckyTregear]

@@greekveteran2715 I honestly haven't used it that much yet, but yes it could be a good one for muted foliage.

[@greekveteran2715]

@@BeckyTregear Thank you Becky! Happy painting!

[@amandahodgin9316]

@@greekveteran2715 it’s a lovely, somewhat earthy green that has different colours depending on how diluted it is. I would say that it’s more of a warm green. I use it for foliage of all kinds, leaves and landscapes. Sometimes I like to lay it down in a medium-light value and then glaze over it with a light wash of green gold. That’s my favourite way to paint the fat, unopened buds on poppy plants.

[@karenirving7088]

During Prime days I got the primary set for Au$30. I also bought a couple of single tubes of sap and undersea green. Both tubes contained pigment PO 48.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@karenirving7088 They're so much cheaper on Amazon compared with every other store I looked at! They're a bargain, especially the ones with PO48 and the Series 3 red. 😊

[@karenirving7088]

@@BeckyTregear I know people say we should support local but times are tough financially. Amazon delivers to my door cheaper than I can buy in store 🤷‍♀️

[@firby7341]

i recently got the primary set with the 6 x 5ml tubes that have one warm and cold primary each. i was a tiny bit disappointed the warm yellow used 2 pigments, for a primary set i really want single pigment colors. but i still like the set =)

[@BeckyTregear]

@@firby7341 I did a video on that set too; and yes it would be better if all were single pigments.

[@mariac4602]

I have the older tertiary set but LOVE the vibrancy of the new set.

[@robertadrsvensson]

I loved the eagle, so beautiful!

[@BeckyTregear]

@@robertadrsvensson Thank you 😊

[@SL-et9bk]

The ‘old’ primary and secondary sets are available in UK. Amazon UK currently has the best price. Not seen the new sets anywhere here.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@SL-et9bk Yes, the new sets were very sporadic when I was looking them up online. Amazon is definitely the place to buy the old sets though - so much cheaper than anywhere else!

[@SL-et9bk]

@@BeckyTregear Too true! Jacksons have them, I think, but about £7 dearer than Amazon. Amazon's price is so good, expecially when you consider that to buy the Perylene Red as a single tube costs £16+ in UK (yikes). Loved your painting by the way :)

[@Azkademon]

DS is indeed a superior paint!! All the colours are fab but I have to say the purple's really stood out for me, I always want to try a rainbow painting but my brain always reverts to the proper colour of what ever I'm painting and then I kick myself for not trying lol, loved this eagle! I hope your enjoying your travels! stay safe :D

[@BeckyTregear]

@@Azkademon Thank you! Yes it is hard to paint rainbow when the colours should be browns....I hoped for the best with this painting! 😂

[@hansendesigns]

The best DS primary set is the six tubes with a warm and a cool for each primary.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@hansendesigns Yes, that's a great set too! 😊

[@giespel68]

Great video, thanks! Personally I prefer a set with cool and warm primaries. Better mixing options. Forget about the secondary colours.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@giespel68 The six set of warm and cool primaries would be the one to go for! I have them too and they work well together. 😊

[@makeroomtogrow]

I think I really like the new sets but with the old red as well 🤔

[@BeckyTregear]

@@makeroomtogrow It's a lovely red! ♥️

[@JoseGonzalez-wq5jd]

Blick USA still lets you buy any or all of the four sets.

[@FourInchCats]

Love the colours. I haves tried watercolours yet. 😊

[@BeckyTregear]

They're addictive, haha!

[@cccsssish]

Undersea Green, Sap Green and Quin Sienna are all mixes containing Quin Gold. That's what the PY150 and PO48 mean in these particular paints

[@BeckyTregear]

It will be sad when the pigments run out!

[@cccsssish]

@@BeckyTregear I've wanted to try Quin Orange since I began painting and only just got to do it a couple of weeks ago after I finally got the Secondary Set (Amazon, old version). It's even prettier than I thought! Absolutely gorgeous! Hopefully they find/make a good alternative for it! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 One thing nobody tells you when you first get into watercolor is the constant anxiety around the threat of your fav pigments becoming discontinued

[@windywednesday4166]

❤ Good information! I picked up the secondary set when it dropped to $25. It seemed like a good deal. 😊

[@BeckyTregear]

@@windywednesday4166 Nice one! 😊

[@windywednesday4166]

@@BeckyTregear lol, it probably will be but I haven't even opened them yet! Mostly I wanted to get my hands on that lovely quinacridone burnt orange. I'm still busy working on the basics and my own mixing. I'm sure they'll be good for a couple more months. 😊

[@joymiller9668]

I like the rainbow eagle it’s beautiful.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@joymiller9668 Thank you 😊

[@HugDopey]

This is absolutely an awesome painting! Since you like the granulation…. Have you tried the Kuretake granulating colours? Loved this video.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@HugDopey Thank you! Yes, I have an upcoming video on those. 😊

[@cindyfromsydney7693]

I got the old sets on Prime Day for 30/35AUD. I’m confused tho now😂 I was under the impression that I was getting newer sets because I swear that the secondary mixing set used to have amethyst genuine as it’s purple?

[@BeckyTregear]

@@cindyfromsydney7693 I don't know if Amethyst was ever in the sets; must have been before I discovered DS paints if so! 😂

[@cindyfromsydney7693]

@@BeckyTregear Nah! I’d be remembering wrong😂

[@lisamessina5952]

@@cindyfromsydney7693I think that was in the primary set of 6, because I received the amethyst genuine too.

[@cindyfromsydney7693]

@@lisamessina5952Thank you! I knew I’d seen it somewhere😁

[@lisamessina5952]

@@cindyfromsydney7693 I find it is my most used purple. Second is Quin purple. I like the Carbozole but it is very saturated.

[@joymiller9668]

I really love perylene red

[@ggh546-kz6re]

What is the tool (called) you're using, to take a little of the paint from the tube; to then place it in the palette 🎨???

[@BeckyTregear]

I have no idea what they're called - I named it a pokey stick, lol! They can be found in craft shops and they also often come in modelling clay tool sets. Now I've looked it up, it might be called a Potter's Needle, or needle tool. Hopefully a search like that will bring up some results for you! (it came up when I put in "metal pokey tool for clay", haha!)

[@heathersherlock]

Your Eagle is fabulous. I love DS, I have the original sets and some colours from the others, the remainder being on my (long) wishlist. I'm currently working my way through my w/c collection and swatching into a sketchbook, I've been at it since the middle of July and still going. Cheers from rural south-west Vic.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@heathersherlock A swatch book is a great idea! I started one but have collected many more paints so it's no longer very accurate.

[@Deedeedoodad]

Well now I wanna replace my carbazole with imperial purple 😭

[@BeckyTregear]

@@Deedeedoodad Haha I thought the same thing! Imperial is a stunning purple with that granulation.

[@UJB123]

I would consider a "mixing set" different than a "primary set" .... I do happen to have all those colors from various sets and single purchases. All fun, of course. I know Quin Burnt Orange is mixed with Azo Yellow to make Quin Gold. .... Very nice eagle btw.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@UJB123 I think the carmine is a better mixer, being a cooler red. 😊

[@jennw6809]

I just looooove PR 176 although I'd have put a phthalo blue in a primary set for green mixing.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@jennw6809 Me too..I live phthalo blue! 💙

[@ChrisHobelArt]

Do you have an Australian source for moulin du Roy paper

[@BeckyTregear]

Only from Jackson's Art UK, but they have an Australian warehouse now, which is located in SA around Adelaide I think.

[@ShamimHasan-y6g]

❤❤❤❤

[@mf--]

I wish they did not use Lightfastness 2 red in the new primary set.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@mf-- I agree! But I still love the Carmine. LF 1 would be better though. ❤️

[@samstewart9249]

Surperior to what? DS is good bit nor right for everything. My go to W&N Professional, never had a problem. But for cetain colors other brands excell. Try Schminke a bit, also M Graham. If you only use DS you are restricting your art. No rules, no boundaries , no pitfalls. No pigeon holing!

[@BeckyTregear]

@@samstewart9249 I guess you haven't seen my other watercolour videos yet in order to see the extent of my collection, featuring many, many brands......🤣

[@bobbiegraham7729]

The old secondary mixing set are granulating. I just set up for a class and was disappointed and have ordered the new secondary.

[@BeckyTregear]

@@bobbiegraham7729 The new set is definitely brighter! The purple is granulating though...

[@bobbiegraham7729]

@@BeckyTregear well students need some challenges right?❤

[@michegre]

Beautiful painting!

[@BeckyTregear]

@@michegre Thank you! 😊