Rebel Moon is BAD

Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon is bad. It attempts to create a sprawling sci-fi world full of compelling characters, but it gets bogged down in the spectacle and forgets to give anything any substance.
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[@Valtuem]

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[@AlternativPerspectiv]

if she had not been framed... would she still have rebelled? No. She'd have been happily by the side of Bellisario. So... is she actually the hero here?

[@ttawa1071]

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[@nygmla]

Nemesis assassinated 16 high ranking imperium officers and their entire elite entourage but falls to random soldier in a barn. 😂 Also saying this is style over substance is too kind. Most of the background is so blurry, i thought i was drunk

[@kostaspassias3815]

Good video. The thing about stares was on point and something I haven't seen any other reviewer mention. It's funny to think Snyder will have two characters lock eyes for 3 milliseconds and treat it as if fate itself bent the universe to connect these two souls that were meant to be together. It reminds me of that gag in Community were they put romantic music over normal interactions between two characters to show how easy it is to create drama.

[@ethanbeam6975]

community reference

[@ethanbeam6975]

i like

[@jonapilgrim13]

They had magical portals but THEIR SHIPS RAN ON COAL A STARSHIP THAT RUNS ON COAL

[@Thoutzan]

Its Shitty Style over Non-existing Substance

[@lanalan4157]

This

[@shiroamakusa8075]

Isn't it amazing how Roger Corman managed to do "Seven Samurai" in space with "Battle Beyond the Stars" and still had much better character work and a more coherent story than this? Roger Freakin' Corman! O yeah, and it took only one movie to tell the story. Guess that happens if you don't overcrank every other shot.

[@georgekostaras]

Unlike Zack Snyder, Roger Corman isn’t allergic to fun and whimsy

[@freman007]

Unlike Zack Snyder, Roger Corman has some skill. If you need a competent movie on a tight budget, Roger will do the job.

[@shamrockdragon7634]

Tarak's backstory is even worse that you mentioned, he lets his mother fall. He has plenty of time to stop her, he can pick her and run out of there, but he doesn't. He just stands there and lies to everyone else about how he wanted to stay to protect his mother, but words do not match his actions in the flashback scene.

[@paulgibbon5991]

"Man of Steel" also had a parent sacrificing themself in a very unnecessary way while their child just looks on not stopping them from doing something dumb.

[@shamrockdragon7634]

@@paulgibbon5991 Yup! Isn't the original way Superman's dad dies is by heart attack? 'Cause it teaches Clark that even with his ability to turn back time he can't save everyone. But in Man of Steel he coulda moved so fast no one would have noticed and saved his dad. The dad who told him "maybe" he should have let all the kids on the bus die when it went into the river.

[@swagwolfgang]

Snyder made these movies with the idea of a rated R directors cut in mind to be released after the actual movie……why? Him of all people should understand what a fucking directors cut is😂 god i fucking hate snyder

[@ihavespoken_shorts]

He wants another "Justice League" situation. You know... Snyder's R-rated cut was significantly more popular than the theatrical release directed by the director of the Avengers.

[@halvarmc671]

First time I saw Rebel Moon I thought I missed something, so I watched it again. Then it dawned on me that watching it was what adult onset ADHD is like.

[@paulgibbon5991]

I'm fairly sure the scriptwriting consisted of repeated shouts of "Wouldn't it be SO COOL if THIS happened?!"

[@jansandman6983]

Admiral with only just 1 ship.

[@Wintermute01001]

Zack Snyder really makes me appreciate Joss Whedon. For all his flaws as a person, Whedon is great at making fun and interesting character interactions.

[@Dlynchian]

So, The Imperium has a king? But not an Emperor?

[@shamrockdragon7634]

Yes

[@trockenerkakau6585]

Bro its the "motherworld"

[@shamrockdragon7634]

@@trockenerkakau6585 every time they said Motherworld I thought of Motherboxes 🤣

[@anderslarsen4412]

You already put more thought into this mess than Snuder did, lmao.

[@shamrockdragon7634]

@@anderslarsen4412 🤣

[@kayskaht2052]

I've watched numerous video essays on this trainwreck film, and this is one of my favorites! Brilliantly done! Keep up the great work!

[@LukeLovesRose]

That expository dialogue sounds like something right out of M Nights The Last Airbender. OMG

[@shalinalewis2957]

I can't believe Discount Conan watched as his mother went skydiving without a parachute 🙄

[@kennethmiller9346]

Why are people surprised that zack Snyder doesn't know how to do characters? Snyder hadn't done anything good sense three hundred. That's because all he did was copy the graphics book. He a special effects guy not a dictator or writer.

[@JasonHauser125]

Such a terrible, terrible, terrible film. I don't care if an R cut is coming that is probably better, we have to judge this one it's own merit because he willingly and proudly released it, and this is one of the worst written big budget films I have probably ever seen. Aside from some of the special effects (namely the robot and some explosions) the film is atrociously bad on every level. Snyder does have talent, but when he's given full creative and ego reign, we get an abomination like this. It's a shame that so many far more talented people aren't even given the chance, but someone like him has climbed to the top of the Hollywood short list.

[@TekkLuthor]

You know your idea was bad when even Lucasfilm rejects you

[@Joecbg100]

Maybe if the film showed Cary Elwes not being a dictator, and not raiding other planets like a genocidal maniac, we would feel something for when he hilariously died

[@kaykutcher2103]

I just keep imagining Jack Benny on one of the violins.

[@marshalhammel5065]

To hear from you again. How was your break?

[@Valtuem]

Good. It's great to be back 👍

[@georgekostaras]

This movie is allergic to joy and whimsy

[@sebastianrubin7476]

Again; how can Kora say that the Empire beat the kindness and love out of her, at the same time as she proclaims how they encouraged their soldiers to form bonds and find lovers to keep them motivated?! Why are the robots so fixated on this princess when they've been fighting and killing for the Empire for years, possibly centuries?! And why would a fucking admiral care about a tiny-ass village in the middle of nowhere!?! Aaaaaargh...

[@ieatpeopleand]

If you think about it too hard, you'll give yourself a stroke. Save yourself and think about it no longer! 🚬😎

[@nygmla]

You deserve more views! This is the best breakdown of that movie out of all the reviewers on KZbin I've watched including the critical drinker and nerdrotic. You got my sub!

[@mercianthane2503]

Instead of defending from the Imperium, why not defending against regular smugglers? Yeah, ain't that epic, right? But at least would make sense.

[@alexandermccabe429]

Great work on this.

[@RedEyesBlackKnight]

2:34 random oneyplays moments are always appreciated.

[@lukegraham317]

These movies are such snyder garbage. That scene when Korra falls into basically the engine room of the titanic caused me to burst out loud laughing😂. Coal? Like earth coal, not even space coal, just regular earth coal on a space ship. And my god with all exposition and terrible dialogue.

[@jonapilgrim13]

Never forget that the Empire has the all of the Technology to bring people from the death but their ships ran on REGULAR COAL not even some kind of interplanetary coal just your everyday coal

[@tokukeitaro]

It's like Snyder read a bunch of 40k novels in a delirium then wrote the script while high on meth and coke.

[@MrSkills123]

That script must have look great while he was writing it on crack and cocaine

[@yoshidinono8095]

I'm disappointed it took people TWO movies to figure that out.

[@onlyonewhyphy]

The response to this movie seem uniform across anyone I've seen talk about it. Snider means something in my country (I don't care if he spells it differently). It means Very Bad Quality.

[@trockenerkakau6585]

I dont get how the end of an 1000 generational Dynastie doesnt cus mass international division and Chaos we havent had a Dynastie lasting that oong in our history but the end of smaller ones had more impact then this

[@theworld5937]

Zoolander directed Rebel Moon. Style over substance. Not joking. Zoolander would have used a lot of slow mo and stupid dialogues just like this.

[@ieatpeopleand]

Now that's a Rebel Moon I would have watched 🚬😎

[@asarishepard8171]

this whole movie is alot of "i implore you to reconsider."

[@fredlandry6170]

I’m glad I missed it.

[@degarmoj1]

Another highlight of ZS weakness, a very solid critique, with a particle focus and detail you reference with characters, development, motivation, lack of plot, and how it leaves so many holes. The movie is lots of stuff, of little substance, with a disregard for answering so many “Why?”. Answer from ZS and kool aid drinkers have been., “Well it’s obvious, cool stuff happens, these various “moments” provide all the insight and detail you need, so stop hating.”

[@blueshattrick]

This plot makes even *LESS* sense than the Dizney SW sequels.. something I thought was impossible

[@brandonhall4547]

Style over substance. And as a bit of a Snyder apologist I have to say the style was lacking so with very little substance these sort of feel like nothing. Like dollar general action figures called “solar BAttle” . There’s no backstory even though the package makes it vaguely feel like there is

[@robertdouble559]

News flash. It's not stylish. It has the opposite of style. No style. No substance. No nothin!

[@jakebeneski1977]

This guys analysis is top class!

[@kennethmiller9346]

Mom. Icing thanks for making me hungry!!!

[@chrisperrien7055]

I gather Zack Snyder played/DM'd "Traveller -the RPG game" back in the day.😎

[@paulgibbon5991]

Using random tables to generate the planets would explain why we have a backwater planet that only seems to have one set of farms, a cyberpunk dystopia with mega-cities, Ancient Rome, and Victorian London / Harry Potter World so close together.

[@karachaffee3343]

Hey, just because WE don't use coal for our interstellar space ships anymore, there is no need to be snarky about it. They are doing the best they can.

[@MR_Edits03]

I didn’t watch this series of movies, and don’t plan to. I see this as an idea with zero fortitude for being a compelling story. Obvious Kurosawa and Star Wars love, but that’s nothing but admiration. There’s no grounds in this very ambitious story they are trying to tell. You can make the argument that “nothing in sci fi is new, everything has been done”. Maybe, but then do you have to be so blatant with your copy paste storytelling? Absolutely not. This is I think, a very good example of the Zack Snyder problem. Style over Substance. He can make a shot look spectacular, and paint it like a veteran artist. But the substance behind the shot is little to nothing. It’s uninspiring truthfully. I wish I had better things to say, but that’s really how I can sum it up. I don’t dislike all of his work, but yeah…this is bad. Great analysis as always sir, glad to have you back🫡

[@Kijinn]

I don't even think the problem is that he copied something, but that he didn't understand the works he copied from. It's like a painter copying the Mona Lisa but giving her a big bright smile and claiming that that was what's missing. The thing about stories is that they don't need to be new. They just need smart and inspired elements of storytelling, deep enough to evoke emotions and thought. Snyder's approach to emotion is on the shallow side of pretty pics enhanced with cheesy music. His concept of thought is like reading the document that contains all of the answers to the multiple choice test.

[@LukeLovesRose]

Maybe now you all will think twice about saying the same thing about the Avatar movies. At least the "evil" humans aren't trying to take wheat from Pandora

[@Kijinn]

A bad movie doesn't suddenly become good, when a worse movie is released. Avatar's problem wasn't that it's not high enough on a competition ladder, but that it's badly written. That didn't change.

[@justthej]

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[@enriquecabrera2137]

Stylw over substance implies it looks good. It looked average at best.

[@Tarquin2718]

Haha finally a rick and morty reference ❤ I can't stop with rebel moon reviews! I even watched the movies just so I could listen to all the reviews. It is so much joy

[@lanalan4157]

Snyder sucks deep to the very core

[@user-ef5ug6jx5n]

"Why is he just a normal dude" When the woman with no boobs is on screen. Hilarious. Peak comedy.

[@TrueHitman1979]

I'm sorry I almost gave you a thumbs down 👎 but it's not your fault the movies are soo terrible. Lol good critic

[@rohandasgupta8758]

I’d rather watch Battlefield Earth over this trash

[@gathasofpersia6432]

Hey guy, nice review. But, you are so late to the party. Try a day or two after a release, you will get 50x the subs and clicks. Just saying. Timing is everything in the real world.

[@Valtuem]

Yeah, I know what you mean lol. I was pretty late with this.

[@charlieberry7562]

Good use of Oney 😂

[@samolson8796]

great video, new subscriber inshalla. love