REBIRTH OF A LEGEND ? - AVANTONE CLA10 (part 1) | Streaky.com

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Is this a rebirth of the classic NS10 or just an inferior copy? In this first part of the review streaky looks at the speaker and gives his thoughts on its basic appearance and his initial impression of the sound.
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Have you listened to these? I'll be doing a listening comparison to NS10 studio monitors in Part 2...

[@richieroar84]

Nope, but been dying for you to! And also recommend the correct cabling and reasonably priced amp. When I say reasonably, I mean under £200-600 (if possible). Not Streaky Mastering/Balmain/LV/Gucci/Lobster Pasta reasonably haha

[@beatladen]

Great video! I have a couple pairs and wondered about replacement parts from Avantone...are they suitable???? Thanks!

[@wafflestoast5228]

Can’t wait!

[@puresesh7985]

why do people like ns-10s so much they sound pretty horrible. i know people say if you can get a mix sounding good on them it will sound good on anything but wouldn't it just be easy to get a flat pair of speakers tuned to the room.

[@SCVDistribution]

@@richieroar84 Hey Richie! If it helps - Avantone also make a 'CLA200' power amp designed specifically for use with the CLA10 and similarly spec'd passive monitors :)

[@ErikSpott]

The logo is almost as huge as CLAs' ego ;D

[@officialsimonharris]

glad it's not just my old NS10's that are all scratched up

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I’m a newsletter reader also and really enjoy watching and learning from your videos. Thanks for the good work!

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I'm a newsletter reader :) Love your videos Streaky , by the way thank you for sharing your knowledge with all of us !

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"It's not how loud you make it, but how you make it loud" - I like it as it is true. I hope it would count as me being your newsletter reader!!!!!

[@mistry1825]

Thanks for your newsletters! Learning a lot from you!

[@hadenheight3825]

Great review, found this through the newsletter. Love your stuff, keep it up!!

[@JayKaufman]

Mate, you've got to turn the volume down a tad when you're mastering. You're yelling all the time! ;)

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:)) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Anorak newsletter reader and KZbin channel subscriber here. Great tips and solid product reviews!

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Hey Streaky I'm here from the anoraks newsletter. Looking forward to part 2!

[@medwaystudios]

Newsreader here, have got some black tape ready to cover that logo.

[@joeyf808]

Looking forward to Part 2!

[@degreeoffreedom2268]

Hey Streaky, thank you again for your review. I am a newsletter reader and I could use these cla-10. I just mix on headphones yet and mixing on monitors would be super cool. Best, Fabi

[@TenkuVision]

FYI, Avantone do make spares for NS-10 & CLA-10 so you can replace ur old parts. www.avantonepro.com/av10-mlf.php

[@malcolmgoldie]

Sound On Sound just did an extensive review of these including measurements, comparing to two pairs of originals. They reckoned the CLA’s were pretty much exact copies of the bass/mid but much too bright. I wouldn’t say my NS10s are overly bright (I’ve got the studio pair). Are your old pairs as bright as the CLA’s? p.s. totally agree about that awful massive centred logo!! :(

[@frosty6845]

That may be because the NS10's have been discontinued long enough that they're starting to deteriorate. But I don't know since that article is paywalled

[@reptilespantoso]

You can do the old "tissue in front of the tweeter" trick? :-)

[@natewilliams2426]

If sound on sound is saying they’re exact copy it’s time to stop reading their opinions on anything. They sound very where it matters

[@redtapemusic]

@@natewilliams2426 If you read the Sound on Sound article in its entirety Hugh DIDNT say they were an exact copy anywhere in his review. They are close, but so are AR18s and many other "closed box" speakers. The CLAs use many mass production approaches to cut costs (the woofer is pressed rather than folded as the NS10's woofer is) but still manage to cost more than a decent pair of used NS10s!

[@fredfox3851]

Streaky, I think you can buy the raw drivers from Avantone if you wanted to re-use your Yamaha cabinets.

[@lennardauri]

I used the NS10s a lot. A friend of mine had a pair in his studio - always liked them. Luckily, I read your newsletter - maybe I win your pair of NS10-clones :-) . . .

[@kuglepen64]

NS10s were great fun to track on, but boy did the trebles fry quickly when you cranked up the volume.

[@darragh610]

Hey Streaky, good review, ive never actually listened to ns10s, i eagerly await part 2 to hear examples. Im a newsletter reader.

[@dennislaplant4572]

You will hate the sound, until it's mixed right in the mids & all above ! If you can make a solo'd bass gtr. sound great on NS10's....You got it goin' on !

[@jenyamelnikoff3404]

White cones and black boxes... :-D

[@jacobharley7117]

I'm a newsletter reader :D And I would love to hear what these sound like!

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I am a newsletter reader! Love your channel

[@Orvulum]

NS-10's are an anachronism... There are so many really goo monitors available these days, more accurate and more pleasant to listen to... Why go back?

[@dombud74]

@streaky Who won?

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I'm a newsletter reader, keep up the good work :)

[@Catalog1980onwardsTheRevival]

waiting for your next video to know more about these speakers

[@Iconroller]

I am a newsletter reader and I would absolutely love to own these speakers :)

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Newsletter reader over here!

[@otejiriagbodoroba]

I guess the big icon was intentional.. Streaky nice review.

[@666beatsatan3]

your lights flicker

[@GoranSimonoski]

nEWSLETTER cREW!

[@helloitsjury]

Are the CLA ones passive too? Or did they make them active?

[@OSCOMusic]

Passive

[@ARCASIAUK]

Great vid Streaky as always! I'm having trouble with my yamaha HS7s the left speaker crackles when I turn the audio interface volume knob, any ideas or recommendations to fix? Thanks,

[@Streaky_com]

EXEMPTION have you switched the leads to see if it’s the dirt in the knob !!! Or a cable ???

[@ARCASIAUK]

Streaky switched the leads, not the cables or the speaker itself. I think it could be the audio interface but only happens in one speaker oddly. I’ll double check though

[@annaom2476]

Im newsletter reader!!! Have a good day!!!!

[@TenkuVision]

I am a newsletter reader!

[@jasonwilliamson1396]

I remember when I bought my originals from sam ash in 95 for $299/pr. Crazy.

[@marcuseriksson5033]

Thanks for the review and i’m a newsletter reader and mastering customer, so send over the giveaway pair!;)

[@malcolmgoldie]

I'm a newsletter reader (I feel like I'm in Spartacus here...)

[@ThatDarnGenius]

News Letter reader here, those speakers would be nice in my studio

[@KosmoDeuz]

Where the fuck is part 2 ?

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Newsletter Reader

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Reader Letter News Me!!

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News letter reader...

[@dombud74]

Hi Streaky. I'm a newsletter anorak and would love a chance to win the CLA monitors. Thanks.

[@fdschuler7863]

There's no excuse for using such a dreadful sounding monitor. Yamaha stopped making these for a reason, because technology has improved greatly and even a Presonus or Behringer monitor sounds better. These belong with the 90s CLA sound, in the past.

Sonically - Is there a difference from the book NS 10s and the studio version? And if one had the opportunity to get the NS 10 over the CLA 10 which one would you recommend?

[@KingdomTalent]

Thank you for reviewing these... can't wait for part2. OK! Like you, I hate the huge tacky CLA label and signature. Im hoping for a small, (could be metal) classy emblem like what's on the ATC SCM12 Pro 6, Focal Solo6 BeFocal Solo6 Be or the Focal Shape 50. Any ways I will pull the trigger on these if I can remove the ugly sticker. Streaky do you think there's an easy way to remove the loud sticker?

[@Tazmanian_Ninja]

"Marmity" :) Nice way to put it.

[@puresesh7985]

4:15 pushing on the driver off centre oh god the cringe.

[@saracarter3518]

Another newsletter reader! Leaving a comment...do they come with CLA signed tissue paper?

[@BedSideStudioSac]

Sara Carter this guy did a good review on them. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXKbg5qhr8-IhdE

[@ravenshadevox]

I just searched ebay and found real NS 10 for less than the asking price of the CLA 10. In truth I bet they are great speakers but a lot of the cash is likely going into licensing CLA's name. Chris Lord-Alge the Gene Simmons of mix engineers. LOL.

[@costinvaly1]

But if those new CLA's have a brand new circuit board with brand new components then the reliability it's safer with the CLA's. It's kind of like you're buying the old NS10 but with a warranty on top of it. I'm still wondering though, if the new ones sound exactly the same as the old ones or it's just looks.

[@whoopingcoughfun]

Video thumbnail: Rebrith?

[@CorsairRecords]

Biggest shocker here is the news you don't use the NS10s anymore! anyway, *NEWSLETTER READER* and would glad take your spare pair of these off your hands - I'd even pay the postage ;)All the best mateDavid IDC

[@MrRocktuga]

CorsairRecords Good point! NS-10s became an ornament on studio desks, even if today they're rarely alone. There's almost always a pair of recent and decent active monitors right next to the old Yamaha's. It was easier to understand that an older mixing engineer (and in the old days) would use the NS-10s as a known reference, specially when traveling between different studios. It's stranger that young engineers still look at it as a "must-have", when there are so many better monitors for the same (or less) money, including from Yamaha itself. But I understand why Auratone did it. If people were paying that kind of money for old and beaten NS-10...

[@officialsimonharris]

listening to this video on my old NS10's

[@frank_bee]

you always yell like you re just coming back from a concert with hearing loss

[@mikewallace1270]

Too much editing makes this extremely annoying to watch.

[@leonidaskopilos6959]

I like CLA. But man, this cow is milked desert-dry by the advertising industry

[@60secondsinireland]

Nice one Streaky! I'm a newsletter reader.

[@OSCOMusic]

Love the newsletter man really great insight on what you do behind the videos ;)

[@OSCOMusic]

Ps big love from bristol

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Hi Streaky, love the honesty in your videos. There are too many videos on pro audio gear where people only waffle on about specs. Your reviews are refreshing. Got yourself a new newsletter reader.

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Newsletter reader here... please put my name in the hat ;)

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newsletter reader here! cheers

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Newsletter Reader here! Please pick me :)

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I'm a newsletter reader!

[@violentgrey7144]

not bad for a pair.... 6-700 on ebay.

[@reprobite]

Agree the big logo ruins them!

[@Tazmanian_Ninja]

All speakers play more bass when near a desk (or standing on a floor). Same is true if they're in a corner. So the extra bass will be true for the NS10s as well as any other speaker or sound source. It compromises clarity and imaging though. My iLoud monitors sound so much better on stands than on the desk, for the same reason. They have EQ switches that compensate for the extra bass when placed on ones desk. But regardless of that, there's a huge difference, clarity-wise. Horn speakers (like f.e. the PA speakers Funktion One) rely on this, to some extent. Taking the floor into account is part of designing a horn speakers low frequency limit.

[@Tazmanian_Ninja]

... Now, as to that giant logo: indeed too big. And I'm sure Chris was the one who wanted it bigger 😂

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[@melona3727]

Part 2 PLS :)

[@SamIntharaphithakSamSonic]

Hi Streaky. This maybe off the topic here, but how do you use your Avalon sp747 when mastering? Thanks

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[@joevegna]

Very satisfied newsletter reader here. Love your stuff and I am really interested in trying out the CLA10. Could be a great complement to my setup if they actually sound about the same as NS10.

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Hi Streaky! Happy holidays! I'm a newsletter reader! 🙂

[@stdavis]

Hello Mr. Streaky! I am a loyal Newsletter reader, as well as an avid and attentive viewer of your videos! Thank you so so much for the constant tips, tricks, and advice...they have helped me come a long way as both an artist and mastering engineer. I’ve ALWAYS ALWAYS wanted a pair of ns10’s but have never been able to get ahold of any. It’d truly be an honor to win these AVANTONE CLA-10’s from you Mr. Streaky, as they will endlessly remind me of all the lessons and notes I’ve taken from watching you throughout the year. I’m also sure as hell that the CLA-10’s are gonna help me create the cleanest and best possible music, as I will be able to aptly translate my feelings into crystal clear sonics.

[@Teklaranch]

what should i buy?? avatone cla 10 active or yamaha hs8???

[@thedevonanaloguestudio4806]

These look really intresting, big up streaky - fans of yours at the studio, Tristan

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#ASKSTREAKY what do you consider to be some of the best mastered recordings?

[@notthatguy2753]

Did you ever test out gulfoss?? I assume you don't like it but I personally use it for all my masters as a stereo spreader. I'm completely in the box tho

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I've not tried it but I will Cheers :)

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newsletter reader and yes the sticker is too big

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🔊I AM A NEWSLETTER READER🔊 Thanks for the reviews mannnn! I’ve learned a lot watching your videos..

[@FranckPrince]

I definitely could put the black boxes behind those huge autographs to some useful purpose in my lab! NEWSLETTER READER ^^.

[@MrRocktuga]

"I don't need them, but it's just nice to have.". I'm not trying to be picky on you, but wouldn't you fill your whole studio with gear and monitors if you would follow that same principle? Isn't there a lot of nostalgia involved, because you used it "back in the day"? Within that price range (let's keep in mind the additional cost of a amp to drive them), would it be your first choice today if you didn't have those mains? All these decades after the originals were launched, isn't there newer monitors that give the same (or better) insight over that midrange? Maybe you can please address some of these questions on part 2? I hope I didn't sound rude (I actually subscribed to your channel now), but I'm thinking about the average home studio owner that might be considering investing in a pair of these. Thanks a lot and cheers.

[@productionrescue2928]

Newsletter Reader HERE!! I would be intrigue to see where the peakiness of the "brightness" falls. Avantones typically have a stronger upper mid presence to them. Shall have to take a closer look. Thanks Streaky for another great video!

[@MartinTurnerBassist]

Thanks Streaky - looking forward to the comparison. (Yes, I am a newsletter reader - and customer). I own a pair of the Yamaha NS-10 mX and a pair of the NS1000M (totally different).

[@dooceymusic]

I read the newsletter. Great review!

[@oluyomiosh2534]

Haven’t listened to the yet. But I’ve listened to the mixcubes. Maybe you could do a review on those.

[@reptilespantoso]

Newsletter reader here. I'm a K&H (now Neumann) monitor guy but interested in trying the NS-10 midrange magic. Looking forward to part 2 :-D

[@systemheavy]

Newsletter reader :-) Hey Streaky. Just wanted to say thanks for all the great content and throw my name in the hat for the CLA10's! Jollyon

[@dopesensi]

Newsletter getter here . Neeed those speakers.... Do me a favour Santa and I'll leave you a mince pie ;-)

[@bolupona]

Newsletter reader here. Just doing as you asked. Always look forward to your videos and newsletter. Thanks for all you do.

[@rnbyido]

£600 ?? 🙈 I got my studio version in 2001 for £430 and sold them 15 years later for £470 madness !!!

[@markhunstone2747]

Naim, now that's a blast from the past! Always wanted a pair of NS 10'S and as i'm a newsletter reader, well, you know! Lol