REBOOT: Time to Adjust Expectations for 2024 Michigan Football | Michigan Podcast

[@williamwachtel5057]

How in the hell did UM not recruit a QB for 2 years.

[@nathanialblock8480]

the short version is we refused to out bid other schools in NIL

[@stefanmarkey7030]

@@nathanialblock8480 But but Jordan and marketing and

[@timeisahumanconstruct9251]

too busy cheating on the field

[@Loydstardeli2017]

Jim harbaugh flirting with NFL every winter

[@freedomthefreeman487]

@@stefanmarkey7030Ohio people are so dumb it’s hilarious. We Michiganders get a kick out of seeing you all spew ignorance. 🤡🤣

[@dependentfanatic9684]

The weekly Mark Rogers Michigan pep talk for Steve lol. I kid but both are great👍

[@razor7241]

It’s OK guys. You still have a good fight song!

[@bv7441]

Natty

[@CadenFrisbyyyy]

Who won the natty last? I’ll wait

[@dcgravity7822]

​@@bv7441and looking dimmer by the week in your rearview.

[@bluehu]

knee pads for at least five years

[@razor7241]

@@CadenFrisbyyyy I really hope that doesn’t get stripped away by the NCAA. Would have to put you guys on suicide watch.

[@gregfaler4491]

You were a huge proponent of ducking OSU in 2020 (you referred to it as a “strategic retreat”), do you think Michigan should do it again this year?

[@jasonlewis9326]

Steve is a coward that talks tough behind his mic

[@DavidHooper401]

Michigan man here. Our problems start with Marde Manuel. Then they go to Sherrone & Wink. And on and on. Manuel pushed Harbaugh out, so, the spotlight is on Sherrone. He & Manuel are the ones WAY in over their heads and my fear is neither really knows why, which means neither can't fix it. Thank God we won it all in 2023 because that's gonna have to carry us for several years. I hope I'm wrong.

[@Lwellj45]

The best coaches and like the best chefs. Make the most of the ingredients you have.

[@JB-im5kt]

Mark isn’t wrong. Moore is in over his head. This team should not look this bad.

[@AlaskaDuckDynasty]

When there’s no threat of the downfield pass everything is monumentally more difficult. I don’t know that Moore is in over his head, I think Jim left the offensive cupboard pretty bare. The WR depth is non-existent, the O-Line just isn’t up to par, and obviously there was no development of Orji last year, which has caused Michigan to be totaly unprepared this year. Can a run game and a defense get you 8 wins? Sure. But it’s going to take a year or two, and a serious investment of NIL to rebuild all these deficiencies. But I don’t think any of these issues are due to Moore being “over his head”.

[@ryanbailey44]

The lack of discipline and missed assignments is concerning, but he is a first year head coach who has inherited a very difficult situation; ongoing disciplinary issues with the NCAA; the vacuum left by a recently departed, legendary head coach; a spoiled fan base setting unrealistic post-national championship expectations. I'm not saying the guy shouldn't be held accountable, but he does deserve some time to establish himself.

[@vcjasuja]

Appears that buckeye scoop, eleven warriors very up to speed on the NOA. Steve any info on your end?

[@dylanmcfarland2405]

They are a bunch of delusional bums. They are gonna get blasted a decade back

[@RICOJEEZUS]

Recruit a good QB more than once in a decade next time 🤷

[@jofi4580]

BUY not RECRUIT. The business has changed.

[@cameronbrennemanoutdoors]

I wish Jj decided sooner cause by the time he did all but one or two decent transfer qbs were already committed and left us with a bad qb situation

[@freedomthefreeman487]

@@cameronbrennemanoutdoorsyou can’t expect Ohio people to ACTUALLY know football.

[@brettk9316]

There were at least 5 championship calibur QBs in portal at beginning then needed a decent WR and maybe another OL-man then michigan could of had decent offense plus not hire that DC lol.

[@cameronbrennemanoutdoors]

@@brettk9316 yeah at the beginning when jj and harbaugh were still there by the time they left there was will rogers and a few average qbs that would have been maybe as good as Tuttle

[@profitmade7912]

Can we throw a screen pass to Don for once

[@samuelgainey8336]

​@StewBedazzle Can't throw when you have piss poor qb play.

[@Ghost_of_a_Flea]

IMHO bigger than the QB issue is Michigan has a coaching staff problem. I know its waaay early but I have the distinct sense that they are not up to the task of bringing a program like Michigan back to the playoffs. The sooner thats addressed the better for you guys.

[@MoneyIsSilver]

I don't blame Sherrone for picking Davis. He has good accuracy when he's protected, but as soon as he had pressure he'd throw a pick and didn't know how to throw the ball away. Those kinds of things you really can't tell as much from practice. I think USC is actually a much better team than Texas for an Orji offense to start off with.

[@chrisprusha1174]

Old Mother Hubbard as left and left the cupboard bare.... Now Rover is going to take over and give Michigan a bone of their own... 😅

[@BuckeyeIn541]

About halfway thru Steves rant I couldnt help but imagine/visualize Mark as his shrink thinking to himself "5-7 sounds about right".

[@jaywigfield556]

4-8

[@gpv527]

A few thoughts: During the spring game, every pundit was "amazed" at how well Warren threw the ball. So, it was no surprise he started, even though he could not run. Orgi was observed throwing the ball into the ground on a regular basis, much like he did with his second pass of the season (not at all good for the resume for starting QB). This defense would be a whole lot stouter if Martindale could figure out a way to stop the "stupid" penalties that happen on 3rd down, extending the opposition's possession (ala last years D RARELY taking a penalty). That is purely on the coach. Donovan is a great open field runner, but does not, nor ever has had "vision" for the opening in the line. He is quick enough to have "masked" it on several runs, but not as the every down RB. The one criticism I have always had concerning Harbaugh was his never ending flirtations with the NFL. It has now cost UM BIG TIME in recruiting, leaving them with a very empty QB room. And we still don't know if Jayden Davis will be the real deal either. Hopefully, but not assured. Moore was the "game time" HC, but Harbaugh was the week time HC, so Moore's "HC experience" is 3 games and counting. Will he be a good one/bad one? Not enough to go on at this point. He has certainly made a number of rookie blunders thus far though. My thinking on UM's season total before the season began (actually since the end of last season) was they would end up at 8-4 or if they played above expectations, 9-3. After watching this team so far, it looks like it could very well be 7-5 or 8-4, unless something really drastic happens, like maybe they start playing more disciplined football on BOTH sides of the ball.

[@MissionForward3]

Opposing defenses will stack the box against our young O-Line. I believe we should expect that... For Orji to be successful, run blocking has got to be better... On defense, we have to be much better in getting off the field on 3rd down. If those two things don't happen fast, the Orji experiment will fail. I have to believe the coaching staff was planning upon Tuttle filling this one year gap between JJ and Jadyn but Jack's injuries ended up more complex than anticipated leaving them with limited choices.... We'll see how it goes. Hopefully team 145 will rally around Alex and give him all the support he needs... GO BLUE!

[@bv7441]

If Orji can hit some basic short/intermediate throws then teams will back off and the run will open up. Not sure if he’s capable of that though.

[@TruBonehead]

Also so far this season Orji has shown that he makes the wrong decision on the handoff. I’m guessing he’s really bad at that read and that’s why the switch wasn’t made earlier.

[@DonovanEdwardsEnjoyer]

Thank you to the bozos in the market making Michigan such a heavy underdog! I’ll be betting my car title on Michigan ML this weekend!👍🏻💪🏻

[@kempnolan7761]

So how long have they been reppin the new qb 1, rb 1 and center 1 for this RPO concept. In which 2 of those players set all of the protections and line adjustments? Hope they have been working on this longer than a week.

[@bolewis3234]

Let’s Go Blue!

[@datwolverine]

Mullings is your A-typical Michigan power running back and I love it. Edwards is not. However he has more speed and elusive ability. With Orji mostly running out of the shotgun it will lead to more outside runs for Edwards and I think will be one of his better games. Edwards in space is significantly better than Mullings in between the tackles. There’s a reason Don was so highly rated and hopefully we’ll see that now with the different play style. Not to mention he’s also a pass threat. Hand it off to him and have him throw it to Orji for big gains lol

[@thuzeza]

nebraska would so drag michigan

[@mgoboski]

I'm happy for Nebraska's success. Those fans deserve a great team for all they have been through. But, they haven't played anyone. Colorado got bullied by an FCS team minus Travis Hunter going off.

[@smh0825]

Wink promised us he wasn’t Don Brown. Meanwhile he’s blitzing 48% of the time. He doesn’t know how to utilize 4-man stunts like Minter mastered with our D the previous 2 seasons. Wink is making our defense worse.

[@BradleyThomas-e2d]

He is blitzing almost 60% of the time. Even Joel Klatt confirmed that number

[@Number3boyz]

This is coming from a buckeye, no matter what happens off the field y’all should start your freshmen and get him ready for a natty run in year three. That’s just being realistic.

[@davidhernandez9985]

As I told you, I'm concerned about the quarterback position. Defensive, unmediated circumstances may also factor in. Always, Steve GOBLUE-NATTYUP🏆!

[@changyue1955]

try listening Steve

[@taxisquad11]

Is Donovan Edwards still going to win the Heisman?

[@calvinhobbes6118]

LOSER TROLL^^^

[@timeisahumanconstruct9251]

after they rehire stallions

[@samuelgainey8336]

​@timeisahumanconstruct9251 I know right. Thank God Stalions knew OSU can't tackle in space on all 5 of Michigan's big tds in 2022. Just to refresh your memory those plays consistent of 67, 75, 48, 75, and 85 yds. Im sure Stalions just knew your beloved pissy ass Buckeye defense had little to no competency when it came to covering and tackling in space. O wait your beloved Buckeye defense regurgitated that same pissy ass defense to Georgia in the semi-final where they gave up 42 points on massive scoring plays.

[@taxisquad11]

@@timeisahumanconstruct9251 Stallions is worthless now. Signals are electronically sent to helmets. He's so worthless, the first job he could get, a year after he was found out, is an assistant coach at the worst high school football program in Michigan

[@thomasmorris6667]

yes that was a horrible pick. will never mention that again I bet....Moronic take.

[@Thekid-e5y]

Looks like the USC DB's get the week off....D-line and the rest LB's.....tough to run against 11 in the box....

[@khrisstake2210]

How much of an advantage do you think we're gonna get by not saying who the QB is?

[@Canarsie11236]

There's no way a brand like Michigan should allow LSU and ND to come into our backyards and get Carr and Underwood. The rules of recruiting has changed and we have to adapt. Our number 1 rival spent over 20m to teach the top we should've spent the same to stay there.

[@zionistslayer]

We hit 400 yards on the ground in 2022 vs PSU

[@mgoboski]

And 300 in the title game last year.

[@shopins2002]

what's not being discussed is whether the D can stop USC and can wink not scheme up blitzes. 😅

[@MichaelSmith-te7eq]

True. Riley can generate a great offense, he just isn't known for defense coming from the big 12

[@BowensBlvd]

that natty last year was great and memorable for ever...but I think it went straight to the coaches heads that are at the helm now. it seems that they are stubborn,also ignoring what truly wins, talent. the team they had last year was extremely talented and experienced. this coaching staff better pull the head outta their ass and get better recruits and put in better schemes on offense, basic offense design is not how you won the last 3 years. motions and great oline play were a big part of what kept the defense off guard

[@situated4]

Well, that, and they cheated their backsides off. Typical Michigan behavior.

[@randycorner7779]

I’m more anxious to see if the defense plays better than they did last week.

[@GoBlue_yanks42]

They played great last week 🤦‍♂️

[@josephallen8044]

How would that be possible

[@JoshuaMollette]

The defense 1s and 2s held them to 3 and that was with 3 interceptions and a couple short fields.

[@GoBlue_yanks42]

@@JoshuaMollette not to mention 130 of those yards came at the end with the game at 28-3

[@TedHayes67]

It’s all over and the ncaa is still on the horizon with punishment.

[@bushcraftohio7320]

Moore made his 1st coaching mistake when he promoted within. He's a first time head coach at a big school. He needed help with a big time OC. Campbell imho is not the guy. He needed a big time DC. Wink imho is not the guy. Why did " jimmy " make a turn around in 2021 ? Because of the asst's he hired.

[@ajsouthward961]

& hiring a strength and conditioning coach that's 29 with no experience.

[@freedomthefreeman487]

@@ajsouthward961yep doesn’t fit the poster’s narrative.

[@bushcraftohio7320]

@@ajsouthward961 i agree kinda but he did work under herbert the whole time so hopefully he was able to learn from one of the best & hopefully he can still contact herbert & get more lessons & advice

[@chadleady990]

His not the guy ur going to find out this weekend real bad

[@bumpskillers]

I think Michigan needs to keep blitzing to be honest. I just don’t think they have the depth on the defensive line and they need negative plays so they can try and get off the field. You haven’t really seen the impact you’d want to see so far from your d line starters. Especially with an offense that might be rock fighting. I think it’s all about complementary football and I think that gives them the best opportunity to get more cracks at it on offense

[@scottlaux6934]

Wink needs to be told to to blitz half as much. If he doesn't do if, fire him.

[@easywriter7836]

When you’re proud of winning the way they did, you’re no longer the proud Michigan we used to know. Time marches on.

[@freedomthefreeman487]

They won the same way everyone does. All teams had and may still have analysts although calls are coming into the helmet now.

[@easywriter7836]

@@freedomthefreeman487 Why in the world is the NCAA picking on them?

[@JoshuaMollette]

Tell me the last team who won a natty that didn't do something sketchy? The Georgia's, bamas, and osu's of the sport have been buying recruits for years which is a massive advantage and everyone considers those natties to be legit.

[@1Caplaw]

I'll try to be unbiased. I really believe UoM is still not to the level of OSU when it comes to the "reload v. rebuild" concept. I don't know if its recruiting, development, culture, etc., and clearly, some fans will disagree, but for UoM to be a year in / year out power, they still have just a little more to go. It will be much harder now with possible NCAA sanctions looming (harder to get kids to take the risk of bans, etc by coming to Ann Arbor). However, if they can make that last jump, then they will be right there with Georgia, OSU, Bama. Just my 2 cents.

[@TruBonehead]

It’s also really important for MSU to stay down. When state is good Michigan is not. They recruit the same territory.

[@1Caplaw]

@@TruBonehead I hadn't considered that. I have to admit I'm not as familiar with MSU and its level of recruiting. I'm a typical OSU fan and don't like UoM, but I'm trying to give an unbiased opinion. I just feel that if UoM really wants to compete on the level that they think they are competing, they have to get much more consistent in their recruiting. And as I said before, it's going to be hard, if not impossible with the possible sanctions hanging out there.

[@christopherschwartz982]

And a $20 million "payroll" like Ohio State's wouldn't hurt!

[@1Caplaw]

@@christopherschwartz982 Not sure how much NIL money their kids are getting. You do realize UoM is helping out with NIL money too? As a matter of fact, I think all the big-time schools are doing it. So, not sure what point you're making.

[@1Caplaw]

@@christopherschwartz982 Well, your team is paying its players too. Just need to get the alumni to pony up for a slightly better level of player. Still going to be really hard to convince any big-time recruit with those NCAA sanctions hanging out there.

[@89DrFunk]

i don't expect Mich to make the playoffs I'm just hoping they are bowl eligible. Moore will get a pass this year but if he's not careful he will get Tyrone Willinghamed after his 2nd season.

[@Al-Rudigor]

You're desperate for someone to bite on the Tyrone Willingham comment, huh?

[@89DrFunk]

@@Al-Rudigor Nope it’s reality….I hope he doesn’t but if he doesn’t improve next season and gets embarrassed on national TV the fans and alumni won’t go for that.

[@Al-Rudigor]

@@89DrFunk I was just wondering why you kept repeating that comment in the same video?

[@kenwest4729]

Let's let the season play out bf condemning UM, Moore etc.

[@rodrigok1220]

I agree… they should’ve let his contract ride out til mid season or end of year. I’m rooting for Moore, but think he may be in over his head. Not all coordinators make great coaches. Go blue!

[@leojanuszewski1019]

Guys let's all take a step back and look at FACTS. Michigan ranks 128th in returning player production this year. That's out of 133 FBS teams. So, Michigan has less returning player production -- usually MUCH less -- than over 96% of all FBS programs. New OC. New DC. New Head Coach. New people throughout the staff. So....OF COURSE Michigan isn't what they were last year. But they'll be back. History tells us that much for sure. Go blue!

[@redmars63]

So all the off season talk about player development and how they all had valuable game reps , and how UM isn’t QB dependent so the turn over won’t matter was just empty talk ?

[@AngryOtter614]

I'm loving this episode. Certainly a different narrative than we were hearing all off-season, and no, you're definitely not beating Ohio State this year.

[@freedomthefreeman487]

@@redmars63Michigan lost more talent than any college team EVER! 13 draft picks. There will be a couple development years now.

[@jaywigfield556]

Not after the NCAA is done with you! You’re officially Minnesota congrats!

[@Dave-854]

@@freedomthefreeman487Georgia had 15 players drafted in 2022 and bounced right back. Ohio State had 14 players drafted in 2004 and bounced right back.

[@jmjsr]

I think its a mistake to let USC know and prepare for a running QB. Denard Robinson comes to mind. I had big hopes for him and Sabin had it all figured out.

[@tommorehart3313]

bet the house on USC 5.5 points ! easy money

[@michaelmiller261]

Start the self - impose process. It’s the best course of No good options.

[@Jay-n262]

The way they look it's going to be a struggle just to get to a bowl game.

[@CH-mk5ol]

Steve where’s my ROAR RANT?!?!?!

[@JoshuaMollette]

I agree with all the player swaps and hope they add andrew gentry as well. He was a bulldozer the few snaps that he was in. How on earth Evan link "won" the start at RT blows my mind.

[@cjpreach]

UM new expectations - finishing 5th in the B1G

[@pabloestabla3707]

We don’t know that AO is the man yet, jimmy didn’t leave much in the cupboard…i don’t blame him for trying DW

[@razor7241]

Gee Steve, YOU ought to be the coach. You seem to know who should be playing and what offense and defense to run. 🙃🙃🙃

[@GamingTremor]

Buckeye trolls trolling themselves, priceless.

[@jimmy5634]

@@GamingTremoryou’re cheaters

[@tylermayes2907]

@@jimmy5634 your cry asses 🏆〽️ may 2014 live forever for you sucknuts who won the 2023 national title 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@GamingTremor]

@@jimmy5634 The Buckeyes new found respect for NCAA by-laws is inspiring.

[@Nman222223]

7-5 baby maybe next year

[@jaywigfield556]

8-4

[@Jared.Alen.Brandon]

Time to find another Conner Stalions. That's the only way. Admit it. 😅 Love the show. Best wishes to you all.

[@pesci19]

🤡

[@josephallen8044]

Oh no, we suck !

[@BobNob-dp9tn]

Moore is a great G5 coach, a decent middle of the road B10 coach, but will be subpar at an elite program. Alex is an athlete, not a QB. Look for Rich-Rod flashbacks & PTSD for 2024.

[@ChimichangaGuy]

Alex Orji is gonna have to out QB Miller Moss.... I'm not sure if I like that

[@ddr2565]

What’s a jag?

[@redmars63]

Just a guy

[@RICOJEEZUS]

UM's QB room

[@GamingTremor]

One of the best shows from the 90s

[@changyue1955]

Try the single wing!

[@michaelkasper7930]

The first pos we should let Alex throw a deep ball.

[@rogersmith3960]

Question? The fewest penalties due to the known opposition play calls?

[@GratefulDeadPhish]

WeLl aTleAst wE wOn thE NatTy 😂

[@dougfrench7815]

Waiting for Wink's name to come up.. coaching on both sides of the ball is disturbing after 3 years of great coaching. Steve you said this was going to be a breakout year for Donovan. I thought no, he should still be the #2: running back. Playing behind you know who just like he did with Corum last year. Saban did a great job with a questionable team last year, unfortunately I don't think our coaching is what I hoped it would be. All you have to do is remember what harbough and brown did the first 5 years to know what can happen with poor coaching. We seem to be heading right back to where we were. Perhaps we do need Connor to come back..

[@johnquillan4626]

Moore has been over his head from day one. Now that we think we all see that, it will be interesting to see if he panics or keeps it together.

[@cameronbrennemanoutdoors]

Where do you get the alumni base statements from according to the trusty internet it says psu has the biggest and Michigan isn’t even mentioned near the top

[@collegefootballwithsam]

How could you forget the 2022 Michigan vs Penn State game where Michigan ran for 400+ yards?? In all seriousness I love your analysis and I agree the staff clearly has some hubris and/or are learning on the job.

[@jimmy5634]

Yeah, with the defense’s signals. C’mon man up, you guys are cheaters

[@samuelgainey8336]

Joe Klatt said it best when it pertains to sign stealing. The more you know about football, the less of a deal sign stealing is. The less you know about football, the more of a deal sign stealing is. Clearly OSU fans are in denial that their mediocre overrated 5 star players on defense were bullied in the trenches thus giving up 10 rushing tds in the 3 Ls they took against Michigan. The offense bases nothing off of defensive signals. They call plays before the defense does. Please educate yourself on how the game of football is played before you make bafoonish comments. Defense's base their play calling on offensive personnel. 10 man, 11 man, 12 man and 13 man personnel. The offense dictates what move the defense needs to call based off of formation and personnel.

[@vaughnwesterby5162]

Steve, please help me understand why you would announce Orji as the starter 5 days before the game even though yes, it’s obvious Warren shouldn’t be it! Keep it close to the vest! Obviously he didn’t learn a thing from Harbaugh in dealing with the media!

[@AdamSmith-km1fn]

I would've hired either John Gruden or the staff from S. Dakota St.

[@mswwalker12345]

Got no stake in Michigan or any Big 10 team. This podcast popped into my feed a couple/3 weeks ago, and I have only one comment: Yes, you won the natty last year. That was last year. Stop looking backward and start looking forward. Celebrate all offseason but this 'oh well, we won the natty' mentality is gonna ruin your near future. Glad to see the coaching staff is willing to try something new. Thats a good sign. Cheers,

[@89DrFunk]

Nope we won the natty last season and defending it's not a full calendar year. This season is a gonner and the HC is over his head so this year he gets a pass but next year if he doesn't improve significantly he will get Tyrone Willinghamed

[@JonathanMWeiss]

Steve Deace’s attitude has absolutely no bearing on the performance of the Michigan football team. He’s a fan who has no control over what the team does, and this is how he copes with stuff he can’t control.

[@Backyardfit]

@@JonathanMWeissI get that vibe

[@calvinhobbes6118]

SMH. Get a grip. We are all fans of football here. No one is a coach or a player.

[@Tepify]

I think the we won the natty statement is what we say when we know there’s a great chance we don’t make the 12 team playoff this year. It’s like a sarcastic statement haha

[@markkulas9006]

This feels like a Brady Hoke season

[@mike-j8z3g]

winning big ten titles and national championships are going to be more difficult especially with the additions of the pac12 schools who like to score points and let me add the new 12 team format will also not see repeat national champions. this is why Saban stepped away . more games ...more wear and tear.

[@colinbell3374]

I usually agree with Steve, but I really don’t agree with his analysis on the qb situation at all. I completely agree with the lack of creativity and can’t comprehend why we haven’t had multiple RBs in. Michigan even has some legit plays with two QB’s in with Orji as the athlete he is. Also, Mullings looked like the RB1 in times last season. He’s clearly looked like the better back. Donavan dances too much. Mullings hits speed quick and he attacks contact so he is always falling forward. He’s the guy I want (for now). I hope Donavan can learn something from Mullings because he seems more athletic.

[@rowdy831]

He is WAY over his head. His only chance for survival is to be a great coach because the business side of it will take years to learn.

[@jofi4580]

Just hire someone who can handle the NIL side. BUYING PLAYERS is now the game. Stop being out-bid by schools like Kentucky. The money is there if they would just spend it.

[@_1989M_]

I remember so so well back when Steve was reluctantly happy any time that Michigan won a ballgame lol back 2014/2015/2016 era. so very different now lol. so smug. 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴 go blue 🟦🟨

[@1MeanWolverine]

Orji’s plays at QB have been more a negative than a positive or the last two seasons.

[@AutumnAllyn]

I didn’t like the Moore hire at the time and I sure as hell don’t like it now. Chris Klieman would have been a great hire.

[@JW-28]

We will be lucky to throw for 100 yds a game with Orji and our WRs.

[@scottlaux6934]

But we have Loveland and Marlin Klein, also Donovan out of the backfield.

[@deltaraider87]

​@@scottlaux6934 Orji has to actually throw accurately

[@rowdy831]

Love your show. I think Orji will make a huge difference for UM on offense. He can keep the LBs honest with his legs, he can slow down the edge rushers who have been crashing all season. Those two things will be benefits to the offensive line and allow for more big runs. I also think once he gets comfortable his passing will come around and the offense as a whole will be a little scary. I don't think he will ever be a Brady or JJ but he could be a combination of a good QB and an excellent runner.

[@fishharvester9434]

Ok 10 of 12 nattys were before the 50s. Outright natty in 75yrs. Im sure alot of programs would trade places with you. And for most of the bigs existence in fb it was Mich and Ohio state running things and still run things. Basically a lack of competition for most of years except at the end of the year.

[@taxisquad11]

a little bit?? We don't know if he'll ever be able to handle it

[@EnzoMoresi-mj8bc]

Yes, when your head coach suddenly quits taking with him key vital important assistants and you're stuck with an inexperienced unproven HC and entirely new assistants - "expectations" should be "we will likely suck balls ". And we do. Thanks Harbaugh.

[@travisshuttleworth630]

Ryan Day was a first time head cosch in 2019 and went 13-0 and won the B1G with his 3rd string QB. If Michigan goes 8-4 or worse and doesnt fire Moore, maybe Michigan isnt serious about football anymore.

[@StuKamaru]

2014 maybe? with Urban Meyer Braxton Miller, Cardale Jones and JT Barrett . 2019 was Justin Field.

[@JB-im5kt]

Yup

[@JB-im5kt]

@@StuKamaruthere were plenty of qb’s available in the portal… this team should not be this bad

[@mgoboski]

Ryan Day had one of the best rosters in modern college football.

[@lukedlv615]

Dumb comment. Ryan day hasn’t won anything.

[@EricaAllispn]

Davis Warren should not take a snap again if things go hey wire with orji put in somebody else .

[@b3stanman946]

When teams rack up points on you, you will have no choice but to pass. Equals blowout against the top teams.

[@gregpartamian9467]

How many national championships did Nebraska win with Tommy Fraser as quarterback?

[@VinnyKnuckles]

The cheaters will suffer through 100 years of irrelevance. That is what happens when you sell your soul for a fraudulent championship.

[@freemanmt1]

Michigan fan here. I've been watching your podcast for years now Steve. I almost couldn't disagree with you more. Sharon Moore was a horrible hire. He and the coaching staff can't develop any players. The wide receivers are worse than most high school teams. The offensive line went from stud to dud. The play calling is absolutely beyond pathetic. There are High school teams right down the street from where I live that run a more sophisticated offense. All of these things fall on the head coach. Even Tom Brady got picked in games even after he was a shoe in first ballot Hall of famer. My point is Davis Warren would do better with more experience under his belt. At least he CAN throw the ball. Alex orgy came in three times on 3rd and short against Texas he averaged -1 yd. He will be a nothing Burger. Mark my words. Hell, what's Jack Tuttle doing besides raising raising a family with three kids. We did win The Natty. And I'm damn happy about that. But Sharon Moore and the game show host known as wink Martindale need to pack up and head out of town. So I'm praying for a 4 and 8 season.

[@calvinhobbes6118]

Harbaugh left the cupboard bare. They didnt recruit a QB in 22 or 23 and thats not Moores fault. Moore actually has a signed QB for 25 AND 26 class. You can definitely argue Moore dropped the ball by not picking up a QB in the portal, in fact, he did very little in the portal this year and it shows. That could be blamed on the fact hes a first-year coach and was not ready

[@timeisahumanconstruct9251]

no UM did not win the natty. UM cheated and the NCAA will soon let you walmart wolverines what the truth is.

[@danlee6481]

Running Orji has to be tempered or risk injury- then who?

[@taxisquad11]

most college football teams in the top 20 have better passers than Orji

[@timeisahumanconstruct9251]

top 100

[@freedomthefreeman487]

Nobody knows that. Orji has made nice throws in practice and hasn’t played enough in game to even get comfortable. That will come. People are just idiots.

[@timeisahumanconstruct9251]

@@freedomthefreeman487 If Orji was a great passer don't you think his coaches will open the playbook for him? They obviously don't trust him. And open your eyes: he has looked like dog s*** in the two games he played against tomatoes cans.

[@taxisquad11]

@@freedomthefreeman487 REAL football minds know playing QB in practice is NOTHING like games. They never get hit in practice. The defense in practice gets yelled at if they don't allow the QB to throw the ball. Yes every player gets more comfortable the more they play in games. BUT every player has different levels of comfort. When Orji gets "comfortable" will he be good or average?

[@cwgbuckeyes319]

20 years from now "at least we won that one natty"

[@jayramos8670]

Yea, that ‘suspect’ Natty is getting further and further in the rear view mirror everyday and soon enough every year for the next 40 tesrsy😢

[@justinvasquez4524]

Yup!💪🏼🏆🏆🏆 I’m good with it! I waited a long time for the 23 championship

[@StuKamaru]

I am good as long we win another one in 10 years.

[@timeisahumanconstruct9251]

when the ncaa vacates the last three years he'll say "at least we have good academics...oh wait, I went to Michigan State" 🤣

[@mgoboski]

It's been 10 years for Ohio State. In fact, OSU and Michigan have the same number of national titles since integration......

[@cimirie01]

Why is it when I said Orji needed to be the starter after just game 1, people were coming out of the woodwork to call me idiotic and amateur, but now I’m seeing many of those same people jumping on Steve’s lap because…. He said it?

[@josephallen8044]

Be careful what you wish for

[@cimirie01]

@@josephallen8044 - I don’t need to be. And that’s not being flip. By every measure currently, our offense is looking at mediocrity as aspirational. This offense do any work with Warren at the helm. Even when he’s not throwing INT, it’s plodding along and uninspired. Best case was 8 wins and that wasn’t looking certain. Enter Alex Orji. Could he be a disaster? Sure. I don’t see that happening, but it absolutely is a potential. But if our choices are “disaster” and “aspiring to mediocrity” is there really much difference at the end of the day? But if you look at when he has come in and plays are called to his strength, the offense moves. Even when he doesn’t get the ball, he makes the defense play more reactionary and it opens things up. That’s exactly what happened back in the day with Denard Robinson - and by every conceivable measure Orji can throw orders of magnitude better than Denard. And people are making a big deal about his one completely lousy throw when ice cold in game 1. It was unquestionably bad. But his quick read TD on his first throw was a thing of beauty. THAT is the type of throw he is capable of making and that is what they should be asking of him off an RPO. Bottom line is that Warren isn’t a good passer. He may be better than Orji, but Orji gives the offense a mother dimension and this offense is desperate for a dimension. Orji experiment may not work. But I’d much rather make this logical move than continue to bang my head against the wall with a clearly overmatched Warren.

[@lhtftr41]

What was Michigan doing in the offseason? This is real sad. Michigan is a brand, that is arguably equal to the best teams in the SEC. However, recruiting and player development is out the window. When you consider who Michigan is, even when 19 players or so leaving.....you gotta have pride and some preparedness.

[@ObiWansDeathsticks]

It hasn’t been pretty, but win lose or tie I’m maize and blue till I die. I’m CHOOSING to believe in this team and staff. Cause I still believe they have the capability of winning any game. Will we go 6-6? Maybe 🤷🏼‍♂️. But will we go 10-2 or 11-1? Fuck it, maybe 🤷🏼‍♂️. Go Blue.

[@timeisahumanconstruct9251]

it's abundantly clear that without stallions and his "skill" at predicting opponents' plays, UM is back to being a mess

[@ObiWansDeathsticks]

@@timeisahumanconstruct9251 you’re right. Has nothing to do with a new staff and 17 new starters. Those things play NO part at all to their struggles.

[@timeisahumanconstruct9251]

@@ObiWansDeathsticks how quickly we forget that UM (minus the cheating years) has always had mediocre recruiting, development, scheming, coaching, etc.

[@ObiWansDeathsticks]

@@timeisahumanconstruct9251 always huh? Is that why Michigan has beaten Ohio State more often throughout history? You sound like a child who just repeats talking points cause you can’t find any nuance for yourself lol. Ohio State fans are funny tbh. Y’all talk about Michigan more than your own team and OSU is a top 3 team ha. Livin rent free per usual.

[@timeisahumanconstruct9251]

@@ObiWansDeathsticks UM beat OSU 2 times this century before they started cheating. Let that marinate. Further, the NCAA and UM are negotiating how many games and titles will be vacated. It's game over for the Cheaters up North.

[@edwardshields2777]

‘The Chatty’

[@1MeanWolverine]

Why not Tuttle?

[@Watermark61]

Doesn't OSU have the largest alumni base?

[@chubulu9842]

If only Orji was Dernard Robinson 2.0

[@user-AARP.TERRY.708]

It's funny how you all complained about that the other team knows when Orji was in he was running. That's how it feels and what when the other team has your signs. 😂😂😂😂😊

[@miltonuta2458]

😂

[@Tmax-ub5br]

8-4.