Red Dead 2: WHAT IF…?

[@Waxyyy]

CLEAN MY BEDSHEETS! GOAT JUST UPLOAD THE BEST RED DEAD VIDEO OF THE YEAR! (sorry zonkers)

[@PIZZAGIRAFFE61]

lol just saying did you know I’m that kid that was on that party chat I was M.R Slick 😂

[@mrBabukica]

I'm here for Waxyyy and I have no regrets. Great video I like your work 🤠👌

[@Waxyyy]

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[@PIZZAGIRAFFE61]

@@Waxyyy 😎

[@Red_Morgston]

Wait why bedsheets

[@jarrellmarcell5512]

The biggest impact of the gang making it to Cuba is not losing the money to the ocean

[@GOATFEVER]

Frfr

[@Walleyedwosaik]

@@GOATFEVERya bloody wall eyed wosaik can't believe yah forgot bout the muneh

[@SpeedDemon55]

The second one truly made me realise how much John actually changed from the start of chapter 1 to the end of the epilogue. He became a much better man and I think he redeemed himself. John changed from a selfish man unconcerned about his family to a man who would do absolutely anything for his family including giving up his outlaw lifestyle and becoming a rancher even though he didn’t want to, fighting in a Mexico revolution and taking on The Mexican Army, killing his father figure, becoming a good father to Jack and a good husband to Abigail. That made me appreciate how far John had come.

[@gurpinderwarar4625]

Yah well said bro, but most sad part on opposite from prologue to John death Abigail remain the same annoying gold digger bitch Karen

[@Robin_Oliver]

Fr. Ppl always talk about Arthurs redemption but Johns redemption is also great

[@kuro9905]

I personally don't think that if john never returns, he would still be killed by ross. Cuz in chapter 3 in rdr2, when agent milton and ross discovered the gang's camp, they dont even recognize john and john introduced himself as rip van winkle so I think if john never returned, he would not be associated with the van der linde gang, at least by milton and ross

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

He got put into federal prison they know who he is because of that alone

[@vee7588]

​@@theoutsiderjess1869but that wasn't til chapter 4

[@rosagem542]

The fact that Tilly stayed til the very end and took care of Jack when Abigail got captured, I think Tilly and perhaps Mary-beth as well would've stayed with Abigail and help her raise Jack, probably in Saint Denis. in the epilogue after running into Tilly, she writes to the Marstons and says that she felt like an aunt to Jack.

[@spaaceboi6972]

I think that if nobody died and all those people sided with Arthur then Javier would side with Arthur too because he was neutral.

[@yachtman87]

Every great fictional universe should have a what-if series

[@GOATFEVER]

I agree 🐐

[@elperrodelautumo7511]

Elseworlds if you want a synonym for what-if

[@jospehcahill7320]

I like how someone finally mentioned the fact that Dutch just wanted attention. I think honestly he murdered Colm’s brother in cold blood because he wanted attention he would get from having a rival. All big gunslingers and gangs all had rivals so Dutch would have one too. Also I think Dutch Turing evil was a combination of his brain injury during the trolly job, Micah manipulating him and being in his ear all the time, the death of Hosea and other characters in the gang, having so many setbacks, having so many doubters, and the fact that he was always evil and that he finally just revealed who he truly was. Hosea was stopping him from being who he truly was. Hosea kept him grounded in reality. After the trolly mission he became very aggressive so that obviously had something to do with it. And Micah fed into his instincts. Micah was the demon on his shoulder well Hosea was the angel on his shoulder.

[@Waxyyy]

W me

[@rdr.outlaw]

Very Common Goatfever W Thank you for having me ❤

[@GOATFEVER]

Thanks for coming

[@LQC13]

I think Sean would have either sided with Arthur or left the gang early. Also his being alive would have meant that Karen wouldn't succumb into alcoholism and maybe she would've left with him and lived their years as a Bonnie and Clyde type of thing

[@trooper9270]

THE SECRET GREAT ENDING OF RDR2 in this timeline the gang decided to go to Italy. Micah decides to become a pizza maker, and stays in Italy meaning the gang wouldn’t have down fell. and every couple of years dutch goes to Italy to get a pizza from his dear friend

[@GOATFEVER]

The good ending

[@iforgor8271]

O hel na ratatouille?

[@thirtythreeteam]

I always did wonder what would had happened if Arthur never got TB. Happy to see other channels focusing on RDR, maybe it will help and lead more to be produced.

[@dukemeiser19]

Hold The crust, goat's best video just dropped

[@controllerplayer2091]

Well, for the last one, yeah an Italy arch could be interesting, but Rome is probably way to ambitious. Maybe a small Italian town or countryside would be better.

[@rdr.outlaw]

Well I believe if it was in Rome, it would be a much similar experience to Saint Denis, it also allows for more fun and chaos to occur 🤠

[@Luka2000_]

The editing is insane on this video

[@lunchtrayboy]

I made a what if video back in March of "what if Dutch didnt kill Bronte" i thought it was an intresting subject great work you guys

[@GOATFEVER]

Thank you 🙏 maybe you could be part of “WHAT IF..? Volume 2” 👀

[@lunchtrayboy]

@@GOATFEVER say less

[@gareeb_whatif8325]

Send link I wanna see it.

[@lunchtrayboy]

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[@rtvtictaczac727]

A Rome chapter would be interesting especially if they added some assassin related Easter eggs 😂

[@Waxyyy]

VIDEO IS DOING GREAT SO FAR!!! 😧🤙🏼❤️

[@GOATFEVER]

Sure is 🔥🔥

[@REDDEADMARSTON]

I think Micah kills Hosea in the stand off then Dutch would be on Arthur’s side?

[@Red_Morgston]

I will not watch it bc I can

[@GOATFEVER]

😵‍💫 you are being to hypnotized to watch it 2 times 🕰️

[@Red_Morgston]

@@GOATFEVER y y yes master

[@Snook_YT]

glad to see the video blowing up bro!

[@GOATFEVER]

Thank you Bro, glad to see you stop by 🫶

[@RealTeamFEVER]

Making it outta Guarma with this one 🗣️🔥🔥

[@CheezDoodlezz]

We making out with Abigail with this one

[@Red_Morgston]

I AM JOHN MARSTON CHEEZDOODLEZ1

[@CheezDoodlezz]

@@Red_Morgston oh shiiizzzzt

[@MrGTAClips]

LETS GOOO

[@elperrodelautumo7511]

What if Dutch decided to go with hoseas idea with the gold scam on Blackwater instead of the money ferry boat ⛴️ robbery. Or what if Arthur decided to leave Micah to hang on strawberry. Arthur could’ve fibbed to Dutch that he tried to saved him but Micah was hung by the time Arthur came to strawberry.

[@FilbeeGaming]

Excellent video guys

[@GOATFEVER]

Thx Filbee

[@TheHiddenOne690]

duke's voice will always make bust

[@CJHaven]

🤨

[@Waxyyy]

I’m being nice

[@DrewSD]

The second i got the notification i pressed the vid i love all of the big projects people are dropping recently!

[@GOATFEVER]

Me too brother 💪💪

[@interrygator7250]

I think that if the gang members had survived then micah would have died at beaver hollow as hosea would have still been talking to dutch a lot and micah wouldnt have been able to get dutch or the other gang members that sided with him so easily

[@Niiiko895]

A what if idea I’ve had for a long time: What if, Josiah Trelawny never went to Valentine and was not able to tell the gang where Sean was, and thus couldn’t locate him and save him?

[@GrubGangg]

Sean never had a big impact on anybody so probably nothing would happen. If he did save someone in the gang from dying then yes but sean is barely in the game so nothing would probably happen.

[@willcartwright7982]

Sean would die

[@chriswilliams4700]

@@GrubGanggto be fair though, he gets sniped and killed because the Grays found out about the gang. If Sean was already dead, that means either Bill, Micah, or Arthur dies. That changes things quite a bit

[@grey_nachos]

"...also kieran but i dont care about him" BRUH 💀😂

[@Waxyyy]

I really don’t 😭

[@xBeasts777]

OMG!! IT DROPPED!!!!! I AM REALLY HARD RN!!!!!!!

[@GOATFEVER]

STAY HARD

[@Agent_Kv]

Erm 👆🤓 actually if guarma never happend Arthur would Live longer cause his tb would take longer to activate

[@hanswurst3110]

Dude! Im 50 seconds in and i gotta appreciate the astonishing intro ❤ That seems like a lot of time and work went into that ❤

[@GOATFEVER]

I glad you enjoyed it! The intro was By Robin Mikalsen and he’s made a bunch more! His channel link is in the description.

[@MrMafia400]

Bro thought he could sneak Duke in and thought we wouldn’t notice but good video

[@Waxyyy]

and waxy

[@MalDaGOAT]

W intro music

[@SalGoochman]

New video is dreamy 😍

[@GOATFEVER]

🫶🫶

[@Dosva]

To be honest, the only one that could have survived is Lenny, because with Sean it was too quick that nobody could have done anything and with Hosea, they just couldn't have done nothing, Milton give them a chance but they didn't use it and Hosea was the perfect example so i don't see any scenario where Milton let Hosea live

[@Solid_Snak3]

waxy being so calm saying ''but also kieran but i don't care about him'' got me coughing with stage 6 of tuberculosis edit: also what if the gang never fell and they all go to tahiti or fiji (maybe even italy)

[@Waxyyy]

Same

[@Solid_Snak3]

@@Waxyyy waxy responded goddamn😭🙏🏻

[@Tingalicious]

If Sean lived he probably be with Karen keeping her away from the a drunken death. They may end up like Bonnie and Clyde or this is a very low chance try to go clean like John If Kieran had lived he'll probably be there to help hang Colm then he'll probably stick with Mary-Beth. Than while she have a safe life as writer he'll more than likely try to open/work at stable. If Lenny lived he would sided with Arthur or have been sent away with Tilly and Jack for safety. After that Lenny being educated may have try to become a Lawyer or writer like Evelyn Miller If Hosea had lived post Guarma he won't have control over Dutch anymore. In Chapter 4 we can already see Dutch doing his own thing like with Bronte. Dutch at that point has been stopped by the law and more powerful figures too many times and the carnage he experienced in Guarma has awoke something inside of him. Him coming back he'll probably still think John is a traitor, Hosea is going to betray him or is a senile old coot, and Arthur as both. If Hosea did live he may not have much time, he was 55 and the average at that time was 50ish. It's said his father lived until 75 so if he had lived post Beaver Hollow he may have stayed with John and Abigail. Being the grandfather and positive role model for Jack. He may have left with Abigail at Pronghorn Ranch to keep an on eye on her and Jack, but would have lived and die at Beecher's Hope. Jack may still grow up to be a outlaw but with Hosea's influence I think that Jack after killing Ross would have tried to restart the ranch and live a somewhat honest life but being raised by a Gunslinger and Con-man he made be doing some shady business, especially during the 1920s

[@colton7675]

If guarma never happened and they ended up going back Arthur could have possibly lived another month. The stress of being stranded on guarma defienetly further progressed his illness

[@CoolGuyJordan]

New upload

[@GOATFEVER]

Yup

[@tyson3039]

A Dark what if; what if Javier and Arthur didn't find Jack on the mountain? Or even; what if the Blackwater massacre didn't happen?

[@nadiacasper7754]

I do think that Arthur would have married Abigial if John didnt return. I think that because of a journal entry where he mentions that maybe he should have married Abigail, and that he had thought of that many times. I also believe that Lenny would have been nearly as prominent as Sadie and Charles. He and Arthur had a very close friendship and I believe he would have been by Arthurs side until the end.

[@Red-dead-dude217]

If I Hosea,Susan, Sean,Lenny,and John were on Arthur side I think Dutch would have joined Arthur

[@davecurry863]

This is fire

[@GOATFEVER]

Yessir 🔥🔥

[@historyfactsshorts22]

Sean would stay to athur definetly because athur is seans role model

[@Waxyyy]

How do u know that?

[@historyfactsshorts22]

Dutch said it to Athur in i think at the train robbery or at the party@@Waxyyy

[@Waxyyy]

@@historyfactsshorts22 show me

[@historyfactsshorts22]

how i think he said something like:Sean is like you at the past he just want to be like you i cant say it word for word because im german and play with subtitles @@Waxyyy

[@tzogaming]

in the what if tjohn never came back ross and milton don't know john cause in the last cutsceene of chapter 3 milton asks john who are you so milton and ross don't know him so he won't die

[@georgebarrett8065]

What if Uncle didn’t have lumbago

[@SalGoochman]

Bison Lover (Waxy) wouldn't stop forcing this video down my throat so here I am 😮‍💨🦬🤩🤩🤩

[@GOATFEVER]

💀💀💀

[@CosmicalGalaxy]

What if dutch never took in arthur or micah

[@DW3010]

Beaver Hollow, not Butcher Creek 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@th3m1st0cl3s]

Funny, his channel says, "stop asking to use my videos as intros. The answer is no."

[@Waxyyy]

No it doesn’t

[@th3m1st0cl3s]

@@Waxyyy yes it does, I just checked.

[@GOATFEVER]

My brother in Christ no it doesn’t.

[@bigbag_games417]

Unreal intro, fucking awsome video , i hope the algorithm blesses you with this video

[@GOATFEVER]

Thank you sir, I hope the algorithm blesses me too 😭😭. God bless you sir

[@Abd-kb7tr]

​​@@GOATFEVERgot this suggested it has indeed blessed you

[@bigbag_games417]

​@@GOATFEVERupadate 24k??? The algorithm blessed you

[@ArthurMorgan_579]

If you are doing apart 2 of this do one where the whole string plays out correctly or whatever or what if Arthur never got tb

[@thecashbandit2510]

Javier can’t be jacks father because apparently he wasn’t in the gang before Jack was born

[@davecurry863]

My crush said I have a 10/10 personality and humor

[@xBeasts777]

W crush

[@Waxyyy]

I’m ur crush 😝

[@GOATFEVER]

I agree

[@CJHaven]

Great video!

[@GOATFEVER]

Thank you 🙏

[@Kany.Gaming]

🔥🔥

[@MrPrice13579]

That intro is something different

[@ViperBlitzen]

Goat Bison lover And Burrito Muncher back at it again

[@GOATFEVER]

Yes, yes we are 💪💪

[@kwrk77]

Intro music?

[@oilybat3269]

Charles would 100% raise Jack in John’s place. There’s no way he’s gonna walk away from Jack and Abigail. Charles and Abigail probably won’t start a relationship but I wouldn’t be surprised if one eventually develops in a way. Charles would never doom Abigail to a future of a single mother

[@EthanMcCafferty]

In the if nobody died scenario i belive that Javier would side with Arthur because i belive that the reason Javier sided with Dutch was only because Arthur was a sick man about to die and Arthur wae injured.

[@kaiser.carbone]

A NEW VIDEO HAS DROPPED, FUCK YEAH

[@GOATFEVER]

💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

[@xiom222]

I LOVE THE INTRO

[@WhoAgainQM]

thats actually a really sick intro wth

[@GOATFEVER]

Frfr

[@Porgmaster10]

Ayo movie?

[@uvaguy81]

If nobody died, I think it would’ve ended up being Arthur, Hosea, John, Lenny, Charles, Sadie, Sean, Karen (because she’s probably not going to become what she became and side with Sean), Kieran, Susan and Tilly against the ones that sided with Dutch.

[@AshTheDuke]

In rdr3 the main protagonist will be the dead ex gang member dude that was shown in chapter 1 they couldn't save his twin brother so part 3 can be two player

[@pronintendo1984]

Alright here's how I think the whole thing if everybody lived would play out. In my opinion, the only ones who would actually stay with the gang up until the very end would only be Hosea, and Kieran. As things began to go really bad after Chapter 4 and all through Chapter 6, another failed robbery and being stranded on Guarma (just nobody died) most would most likely begin to see through Dutch's bullshit, and in turn leave, and I think Sean would be amongst those leaving, and would probably go off with Karen. Lenny would probably be persuaded by Hosea and Arthur to go out and do something with his life, because they would see that the gangs days are finally coming to an end, pretty much being cornered from all sides at this point, since he's a very smart kid he would be like Trelawny and go with Arthur and Hosea's blessing. I know you said you don't care about Kieran but ima still include them here, he was forced to stay with the gang because of O'Driscolls hunting him down at every turn, even though this would be mitigated towards the end of the story, he would be too close to the gang to be able to jump ship now, with the fear of Dutch hunting him down. He sees Arthur as the only one he can really trust so he would side with him in the final standoff, even though Arthur hasn't been the kindest to him. Hosea would be the main one to stay, wanting to go down with the ship, he probably wouldn't be able to stop Dutch's decent into madness, which is why I believe that the story wouldn't exactly change much, as Dutch was starting to go against Hosea's wishes as early as Chapter 1 with the Leviticus Cornwall train robbery. He would mirror that of Arthur in Chapter 6, because Arthur began to adopt his wisdom, and would want to get as many folks out of the gang as they can. In short: Sean: Leaves Gang Lenny: Leaves Gang Kieran: Stays (Sides with Arthur) Hosea: Stays (Sides with Arthur)

[@Waxyyy]

No

[@Miltypooh2001]

My theory on john leaving the gang, is that it would be much harder for milton and ross to find him because they don't know his real name, and him calling himself rip van winkle would make milton think that he's obviously lying, so when he does get caught by milton they'll either hang him or torture him to reveal the location of the gang or probably strongarm him to hunt down the gang and once they're finished they'll kill him next.

[@Nax95245]

Resume: If the gang was around cuba: pretty much the same on the original story. but if they got killed or worst, epilogue wouldn't happened at all, cuz john would be hanged. If john picked the milk: everyone would be pissed off at him arthur would be a step-dad for jack, till the tb. john would be into another name, and living a "normal" life. till red dead 1 events he would hunt the other members, and getting killed by the end. Everyone getting alive: everyone who got killed on the lore, would be in arthur & john side. and certain members would be mencioned around the epilogue more. Jack being on italy: would be a fun arc then guarma. but since the dutch would had the charisma on bronte, it would turn the same thing like the original story but into another place, and jack having a bit of knowlege of italy.

[@elperrodelautumo7511]

Truly mortal kombat new era could’ve used red dead characters. Maybe twist the whole split between the Dutch gang. Morgan’s faction and Dutch or Micah’s faction. But Dutch shoots Hosea thinking that his right hand man turned traitor. And blames Arthur for making Hosea a turncoat.

[@Monkey_lives_in_Krajina]

What if John didnt service chapter 1 combined with Milton and Ross finding Johns body and figuring out that Arthur is lying,they try to kill him in chapter 2 but fail,also Hosea getting sent to jail instead of being killed and Kieran with Arthur going against O'driscolls during chapter 4 would make for an intresting timeline

[@yamez6482]

I think there is a chance Charles and Sadie try and spring John and die if everyone falls in Cuba. But I do believe Sadie would look after Abigail and Jack for a while if they don't go for John like in your theory

[@StormAsher104]

Honestly I feel like everyone who died or ran away from the gang would’ve been the ones to stand with Arthur, which makes it all sadder because if Arthur had his own half of the gang, he could’ve lived!

[@lowendzo]

With Hosea being alive, Cleet and Joe would've not been allowed to enter the camp

[@baggmansosa6154]

Man i would love for them to come out with a what if DLC for Rdr2.!

[@JRMAV1]

Beaver Hollow*, not Butcher’s Creek. Ross wouldn’t have known who John was.

[@elmochomo8218]

Banger in the beginning

[@seb5945]

What if Arthur wore mask and practiced social distancing while loansharking?

[@Ginny006]

Ew

[@ericcrabtree7075]

What if the Greys killed Micah instead of Sean

[@Kimberly-cx9uv]

Miss Grimshaw literaly died, so no, sadly she ain't doing "Grimshaw things"

[@username26664]

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[@brodybicksler]

As someone that knows maybe 3 words of Spanish, that intro song had me like 💃🏿

[@uncledaniel7799]

they would, make the roman massacre again, looking for jack

[@youssefalmoazen2351]

Going to rome in a wild west game Rdr2 will get the game of the year

[@TxShaLo]

But if Abigail had a relationship with Arthur wouldn’t she get the disease?

[@Badabum663]

Idk. Kieren seemed pretty scared to go against Bill & Dutch.

[@shadowslayer9196]

What if Bronte raised jack against the gang

[@gurpinderwarar4625]

Maybe than Pearson Marry with Susan and both start running Rhodes shop

[@PFGFrankly]

well granama speed up authur TB since he was in a stressful and dangerous environment

[@jabronisauce6833]

Lenny Sean and Hosea would have sided with Arthur.

[@MarcanMC]

What if Micah went to collect the Downes debt instead of Arthur?

[@deadsavage2732]

Look chapter 5 is the worst but I mean it was still pretty cool but not really necessary

[@thejonkler69]

This is so good

[@GOATFEVER]

Thank you bro 🤙

[@Eyejrbdysk]

Where tf is that art for John at? It goes so hard and I can’t find it anywhere

[@michaelshaw7242]

Negative. Chapter 1 is the worst chapter of the game.

[@gurpinderwarar4625]

Bruh, that was the best RDR2 intro ever