Red Dwarf - Series 5 - Heavy Science - The Making Of Series 5

[@MS-qt3xp]

Poor Juliet, though good for her for coming in for the interview for the extras, overall you wouldn’t know things weren’t working out as this is one of the best series

[@AndrewChapman]

Yeah, and the two episodes she solely directed "Holoship" and "Terraform" both turned out as two of Red Dwarf's great episodes.

[@frankbrodie5168]

Indeed. She does seem to have taken it in her stride. Though to be fair who wouldn't want on their CV "directed 2 of Red Dwarf's finest episodes, in a very popular season/series of that show.."?

[@hectorsfarm]

I have just scrolled to the end as I felt that they were all piling in for no good reason. She is amazingly generous under the circumstances.

[@tilasole3252]

Strange that, some of the best episodes and she was considered not that good. She used her strengths and gave it a breath of fresh air.

[@LS-ot6vd]

​@tilasole3252 yes I feel sorry for her. But they might have been good episodes even without her direction. Either way, she seemed like a fish out of water, and I wonder if the existing team were a bit too 'cliquey', leaving her with little chance as an outsider joining the party late. And little things like not knowing what p.o.v means won't have helped her gain much respect as a director.

[@andyh7152]

Having met Hattie in person, she's such a sweet person, Anyway series five is a psychologists dream. Incredibly well written and directed. One of the best.

[@JagerLange]

"CRAIG DON'T BUGGER ABOUT" made me laugh more than it should have, given the terror Robert was likely in at the time :D

[@killboggins]

I am amazed he didn't get a slap

[@helifalic]

This is the first series I watched. When we were kids, my brother and I saw it randomly at the video store and hired it on a whim. Turned out to be one of our favourite shows of all time.

[@whunt5533]

British politeness is truly a thing I learned from watching these over the last couple of days.

[@kadiummusic]

Yes, what they really want to say is 'nice girl, but out of her depth'.

[@meteosurreal]

My Ass. They aren't offended. But DJJ mesed a few words and hyperbole-hippie-worshipping-shit-hyphenating-wordinators. 🚆

[@richardPhilips2]

It's can be hard to understand, when a British person says "he was decent enough" "not too bad" "interesting but doesn't take fools Glady "probably was having a bad day" "honest and very direct" , "he knows he's own mind " "very refreshing " "interesting but challenging to deal with to deal with" it means utter arsehole and they dislike him

[@zombi3lif3]

Red Dwarf is one of the best shows ever. Now I have to do a rewatch

[@jtro77]

Series 5 was the peak of Red dwarf. Some would argue series 6, some would say the original concept of 1 and 2 were the ultimate, some would argue that 3 and 4 were the best. I love all of them. Repeated viewings with friends of series 1 through 6 on VHS and I watched all with my brother when aired, lost interest after series 7.....

[@liamhansell]

Series 5 was the best hands down. 1 - 6 were great but 5 stands out as the peak of Red Dwarf

[@danwoodward23]

Totally agree 👍

[@MrTechpara]

Thank you so much for uploading the full, uncut video!

[@hamtarofan]

The editing rlly makes the cast discussing 'the oil scene' hilarious, especially the jump from "made some heterosexuals feel a little interested" to "I would've shagged him"

[@TheHerman8r]

This is my favourite series of red dwarf could happily watch it again and again !!!

[@happyspaceinvader508]

Series 5 is my favourite series and where I feel the show peaked.

[@AlphonseWeebay]

Seasons 3,4,5 and 6 are beyond gold.

[@JohnBloggs-m8l]

Platinum?

[@johnking5174]

That was when the BBC cared about the show. With the three year hiatus between producing Series 6 and 7, the BBC management changed, and the BBC got bored with the show.

[@JohnBloggs-m8l]

@@johnking5174 hahaha, the BBC NEVER cared about the show, they rejected it repeatedly when Rob and Doug shopped it there in the early 80s and only greenlit it because they'd gone and given a financial allocation to a series two of a 1985 comedy drama penned by Ben Elton called Happy Families starring French and Saunders and Adrian Edmondson which Ben never intended to do a second series of but was apparently routine for the BBC to do for shows at the time. It was because this didn't go to a second series they then tossed Rob and Doug those funds to go and film series one of Red Dwarf because they'd already allocated the budget, if they hadn't they would never have commissioned Red Dwarf and even then they relegated it to BBC Manchester. So that shows the care they had for the show from the outset. Everyone cares when the ratings come in yeah but they never inherently cared about the show and once the ratings died they quickly passed it off to Dave.

[@adamcox81]

Season 5 was peak of the peaks! Everyone involved seems so talented and perfect for their role, the right people at the right time. And the writing - to take such complex ideas with such scope and boil them into a 30 minute mini-film with a full arc, perfect dialogue, perfect character writing and all in a way the layman can understand and enjoy...

[@EchONailer]

Season 5 is easily one of my favorite seasons! It's so tough to jump into someone else shoes.

[@TheFireIdol]

Thanks for posting!

[@escapism6617]

Well done Juliet.

[@johneccles4701]

So many classic episodes this season

[@mikerusby]

but still season 5 was one of the best seasons

[@darrenleeson60]

Please make more red dwarf please 🙏

[@dwibs93]

Series 5 is my favourite series, and I'll give some of the credit to Juliet May when she didn't have to worry about the effects. Though her inexperience with said effects and her not knowing what POV meant despite being the director were marks against her sadly. (Though TBF, the former made me wonder why they brought her on in the first place, or not hire a visual effects supervisor as Doug admitted they should have)

[@zalandarr]

This show was just insane effort for somth from the 90's and a shoe string budget

[@greymouser8659]

Despite his protests...Barrie really was typecast

[@OfficialFingazMC]

Feel a bit bad for the director, although not knowing what POV means (which every teenage boy knows nowadays lol) and probably a loyalty to Ed Bye didn't help her. Still loved series 5 though some of my favourite episodes.

[@tilasole3252]

Yes, especially since she did such a great job and for many, her episodes are some of the best. Reminds me of Diana Mulder as Dr Kathrine Pulaski in Star Trek The Next Generation. She was cast to replace Dr Beverly Crusher and the cast who had worked with Gates McFadden from the very beginning were giving the new girl the cold shoulder. She did a wonderful job and wish she would return at least as a guest star in the future. She did mention that the TV series was difficult though and she was not used to the rigors of acting in that context, but also the clique was against her. And fans complained she was too critical of Data, but that was the writers, not her. But she also had some of the best character development of the entire show and she was only there for a single season. 😅

[@bloodmoon0205]

I think more people know what POV is nowadays because of the Peep Show.

[@eclectic_gamer]

series 5 great series, back to reality was my favorite episode great premise and years ahead of its time as the matrix wasn't released until a full seven years later

[@DodderingOldMan]

Ha, man... realising that this came out only 7 years before The Matrix was a bit of a shock... in my memory this came out ages ago while The Matrix just came out a few years back... funny how perception of time changes as you get older...

[@eclectic_gamer]

@@DodderingOldMan yeah I know, time speeds up as you get older for sure, when I was a kid a year was an eternity, now a year is gone in a flash, sometimes I wonder if it's just perception or is time actually speeding up as well, or maybe there is no time and its only our perception and we are all living in a simulation...the more I think about it the more likely it seems to be honest 😱

[@mez7736]

​@eclectic_gamer It's all relative. When you're 4-years-old, one year is a quarter of your life so would of course feel like a significantly long time. Whereas to a middle-aged adult, 12 months will feel like it passes far more quickly.

[@ridiculous_gaming]

Juliet jumped into the most complex formulated comedy that ever existed. Any director, new to this astounding series, would have struggled to adapt. The whole cast was amazing, but the series really turned into perfection once the character Kryten was added as a regular member.

[@carterucm]

There's very few of these types of extras worth watching, but these are always worth the cost of the disc alone. You have to LOL hard when Craig says 'we got a load more cash!!!' immediately followed by Doug 'actually, nope'. Bet you don't get interaction like this on the "Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps" DVD extras...!

[@JohnBloggs-m8l]

I'm surprised two pints is even on DVD let alone it having extras, a totally forgettable sitcom.

[@willlauzon3744]

I loved season 5. 1,2,5 and 6 were all top notch.

[@scottessery100]

Nah 4 is my favourite

[@cphawud8242]

I think series 5 is the best one. So whats all the smeg. She did a great job.

[@nickycotton6137]

Redspected ❤

[@pressureworks]

Thank you, Smeghead.

[@giles852002]

I call series 5 the dark series as in tone it was a much darker series compared to other ones.

[@JohnBloggs-m8l]

Series 5 was the first series I owned on DVD so I've rewatched it the most despite eventually collecting them all so though it's not the best series it's the one I am fondest of though I'm astounded they could hire a director who didn't know the term POV. How did she get the job if she wasn't properly trained?

[@elfboy29]

Does seem like jobs for boys, or gals. But she did direct some great and beloved episodes. Whilst learning her craft, it seems. Maybe that stuff has always gone on in the industry. But as craig says it may undermine your confidence a tad.

[@JohnBloggs-m8l]

@@elfboy29 well yeah but it was Craig who was the problem at the time cos he was being an idiot and she didn't know how to control him, Craig was a nuisance many a time, it's possibly why Chris got sick of him, they were shooting television and he was forever arsing about which on a studio set costs money.

[@elfboy29]

@@JohnBloggs-m8l Do agree with you. If you don' t know this I' m giving you a treat. A genuine first time viiew of the show from some americans. They picked it ramdomely due to the writing strike. Craig was at the Haçienda who wouldn't be. Series 5 now. As genuine as it gets kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z53KZqV9ibR2jrs

[@tacituskilgore9803]

I get the feeling there was a cliquey attitude on the set by this time, and they probably didn't give Juliet the time or respect they should have because she wasn't "one of the boys"

[@johnking5174]

It wasn't just that. Her inexperience was evident. She didn't know what POV means in direction. When Craig saw that, and any actor, they would become concerned when a director doesn't even known the basics of directing terms.

[@alanwakeish]

How can a director not know what P.O.V means?

[@AndrewChapman]

Maybe she hadn't directed anything that required POV shots prior to Red Dwarf?

[@glitterizedrainbow2311]

@@AndrewChapman Its written on scripts and directors learn what that means for a reason.

[@christheghostwriter]

I can't help but wonder if there's more to the story

[@christheghostwriter]

That pig-makeup story sounds suspiciously like Artie Lange's pig-makeup story

[@DodderingOldMan]

@@christheghostwriter Yeah. I would be willing to bet that there's a misunderstanding happening there. The way Craig tells it seems a bit off. I think it's possible that he was being a pain in the arse and she was just trying not to engage with him, and he's concluded she doesn't know what she's talking about. HOWEVER... this is pure speculation and probably wrong. But maybe not. Everything else notwithstanding, I find it really hard to believe that she didn't know what 'POV' meant.

[@Mike-tv9rk]

On the chicane scene Craig was steering the same way as they were leaning. 😂😂 Which would have been maybe, right for the driver. But the others should be thrown the opposite way. 🧐

[@vink6163]

I never noticed that! 1:08:51 Maybe they were trying to lean into the turn so as not to get thrown the other way?? Funny.

[@3dPrint_and_chill]

She didn't know what "POV" was? A director? What?

[@user-vh6ts9uf6c]

A new director who has gone on to create some amazing drama and comedy programmes. So she earned her stripes I think

[@TheoAndHisPedals]

Okay, so what really happened here with the director? Series 5 is one of my faves, but it sounds like it was a bit of a mess behind the scenes. Everyone is being very diplomatic but Doug clearly isn’t happy that she was on the job. Seems like Paul Jackson did a favour to someone who was maybe a bit too green (at the time) and they were just out of their depth

[@pressureworks]

No part of me would ever be seen alive in sandels.

[@pickledegg1989]

13:13 #JusticeForHattie

[@eyeshandy]

lol why did he eat the cigarette?

[@3styler1]

Oscar Wilde said it before, the director doesn't really matter as long as everyone knows what they are doing and its evident here she was just really there to watch the process.

[@cannonball9478]

Lovely lady though 😊

[@RaferJeffersonIII]

One thing about acting….virtually everyone sounds privately educated.

[@adrianrosenlund-hudson8789]

My favourite series. I don't really watch after this, and I really don't like the later seasons. I didn't find the storyline all that appealing.

[@JohnBloggs-m8l]

They've dragged the entire thing on too long, series 6 was as good as it got, seven is okay 8 gets too stupid and the rest has been recycling the same ideas ever since plus Craig and Chris are really looking old now and Craig has gained so much weight, they need to end it really but I don't think they realise they need to.

[@vink6163]

In my opinion the difference is that the earlier series were much more believable. I mean sure plenty of strange things would happen but the characters reacted like ordinary people might when put in the same situation, and that's what made it so good to watch. In the later series it became a lot less believable. Just little things like spilling a meal on the console and having sparks come out everywhere but nothing is broken - too unrealistic. It's like the earlier series were trying to tell a serious story but in the process there were a lot of laughs, but the later series they were going for jokes and didn't care about crafting a believable storyline, and it just became a bit silly. And yes, as the actors age the characters need to change as well, and they have - but in the opposite direction. They've become more one-dimensional as they get older instead of mellowing with age.

[@MicrophonesInTheTrees]

5 was peak RD.

[@kenny832]

Hattie Hayridge was much better than Norman Lovett. When Holly returned in later series I was disappointed it was him & not her

[@AndrewBrown-qs9fw]

Both great I’d say. Dont think either was a disappointment to me

[@PlaylistGeneral]

God damn dude season 5 is all bangers isn't it?

[@MichaelKingsfordGray]

Excuse me Sir, can you please translate that into Earth-Speak?

[@roberttruman8444]

It's a bit poor show the way Doug talks about Juliet's direction. It always sounds unprofessional to criticise colleagues, but Doug was the man in charge and he knew how complex and ambitious the episodes were, because he wrote them! He completely mismanaged the recruitment process and didn't provide the right support and supervision. He really ought to have taken some ownership rather than blame shifting. Fair play to Juliet for appearing in this and acknowledging her mistakes and learning curves. Despite her failings the series turned out great, and it noticeably raised the bar in my opinion.

[@jasonakamrdaddy5433]

Worst thing they ever did getting rid of hattie....she was the best Hollie in my opinion

[@johnking5174]

Problem for the character Holly was there wasn't much for her to do. When Kryten arrived properly in Series 3, he took over a lot of the explanation lines from Holly. Also, since Holly couldn't move out of the TV monitor, there wasn't much action for the character.

[@escapism6617]

Craig has hair! 😂

[@michaeldignan4607]

jack docherty was the Inquisitor!!

[@milo9504]

31:00

[@kadiummusic]

Shame that they missed a huge trick and never made a movie. Surely they could do a stage show? ️

[@JohnBloggs-m8l]

Your behind the times they made a movie back in 2020, the promised land.

[@cannonball9478]

She looks like the lady from ‘Bizzy Bits’ dragons den pitch 😂

[@87654321j]

This is a ship of superhumans haha live that line

[@drdassler]

Just like today, under-qualified people hired on projects they have no passion for.

[@cgdimension]

cast egos coming into play in this series as often happens in sitcoms after a number of series and it shows as the show went into decline from series 6 onwards and has never recovered, control and direction should not be the arena of the cast

[@johnking5174]

Series 5 had a lot of issues. No Ed Bye directing. Juliet May coming in, and literally had no sci-fi experience or interest. She was also lacking in her basic directing skills. It was a tough series to make. The show was BBC 2 highest rated shows, pulling in millions of viewers. Their episodes sold a lot by BBC Video and it was now airing internationally to millions. So yes, ego would start to increase, but also annoyance at the lack of support the production was given.

[@Memry-Man]

Ohh, so that's what went wrong with the show,,,I see now. Hahaha, 1:20 min of those responsible apologizing

[@simonsimon325]

47:17 Most of the enjoyable passtimes are shit. Very true. Fishing, monopoly, pornhub...

[@purehyperbole5727]

I find it strange that they the director would be turned on a little bit here. Seems unprofessional.

[@KizzoMurphy-f9q]

Oh my days

[@anandmorris]

I always feel if writers run out of ideas for characters, they weren't really very good writers in the first place.

[@JSYBen]

Yeah I must admit I've never really bought the line that they ran out of ideas for Holly. Especially as they brought the male Holly back and suddenly he was in pretty much every scene in Series 8. This is just pure speculation, but I just get the feeling they didn't gel with Hattie. You notice when the doc talks about Hattie leaving, there isn't any contribution from anyone else saying what a shame it was or a mistake that she was going. They spent a lot more time talking about Norman leaving in the Series 2 Doc. I think it was unfair considering when Hattie was given something to do, like in 'White Hole', she was great!

[@alpacapicnic]

God watching this in 2023 is weird, what a pile on for Juliet.

[@SuborbitalPigeon]

What difference does the year of watching make? Was criticism banned at some point?

[@darkstar223]

Who ever gave her the job is at fault

[@johnking5174]

Paul Jackson, that is who to blame. He recommended her.

[@이이-n4z8y]

Directed by a dei, that's why it sucked

[@killboggins]

Quiet yank

[@Faith01841]

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