RED Komodo vs Sony FX6: Which One is Right for You?

[@shueibdahir]

Fx6 all day. This is the most versatile camera i've seen. It ticks almost any box. Weddings? Check ✅ Interviews? Check ✅ Music Videos? Check ✅ Movie Production? Check ✅ Only thing that is a bummer is lack of Internal ProRes

[@thatcameranerd]

Yea the fx6 is definitely a work Horse. I do wish ProRes was a little more standard, I know Sony have there own codecs but it’s such an easy codec to work with.

[@lockandshakefilms6297]

To each its own, but that 6 is beautiful. I love those colors.

[@Rossie123able]

As someone who is familair with both cameras I agree on your point about the highlight rolloff of the Komodo. But I also agree with your point about the much larger file sizes that take up much more space. And the Reds require more to build out like you mentioned. In my book, the benefits of the incremental image quality don't outweigh the media management and cost factors

[@thatcameranerd]

I think I’m finding with a lot of these tests that cameras today all look pretty freaking good in terms of image quality so often it’s going to come down to other factors like codecs or ergonomics or maybe even brand as to why you choose a camera

[@goneloco5793]

Lol. Media size. It's 2024

[@jsleger3404]

Since the Burano announcement, I know I can continue my journey with my FX3 + FX6 and maybe someday I'll get the Burano to use on bigger projects and complete my set (right now I'm renting Red cameras or Arri's for those projects)

[@thatcameranerd]

I would love to try the Burano but it’s well out of my price range. Maybe one day🤞

[@JSHFilms]

This is a great comparison! As a current FX6 user in the corporate, wedding, and higher ed world, I've always fancied the RED look but each of these cameras is just tool like Cam Mackey said! I still love my FX6 and haven't gotten to its full potential yet but in the future I would love to film on a RED sometime soon. Also I've just subscribed to your channel!

[@thatcameranerd]

Thanks for the Sub. I agree about cameras just being a tool and I really enjoyed using the FX6 on this shoot. The flexibility of the fx6 makes it a really good choice for most people I think. I would love to own one to be honest I see a lot of really great stuff shot on the fx6

[@yuvrajbhivgade6338]

​@@thatcameranerdBrother if you want to make a good movie with sony fx 6 camera then which brand of cinema lens should you use for it for best result and quality videos

[@thatcameranerd]

@@yuvrajbhivgade6338 I would say the best thing you could do if possible is to go to a kit house and try some lenses. Lenses can look drastically different and depending on the style of what you're shooting may depend on the lenses you choose. Chek out this test I did to see how the lens can change the look kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXbCoGqVpN2lmM0

[@yuvrajbhivgade6338]

@@thatcameranerd Can you tell me as per your understanding which lens would be suitable for fx6 if we have to make a movie so that we get good quality and can release it in theatres

[@thatcameranerd]

Are you renting or buying the lens?

[@renaissancedigital5730]

Honestly it's not as much about data. ELQ is probably about the same size as ALL-I, yet you'd see the same benefits. The Komodo uses highlight recovery software in camera to get around a stop more highlight retention compared the FX6. The Komodo also just grades nicer, better color straight out of camera. It is kind of like shooting with an ARRI in 10 bit 422, it still looks better than other cameras shooting RAW. I am not saying a Komodo is comparable to an Alexa but it definitely looks nicer SOC against an FX6. Now after proper coloring it can be pretty hard to tell any of these cameras apart for sure.

[@jayclas4023]

KINEFINITY is really sharp, I’d love to see it compared to a Panasonic full frame because it looks so similar just from these clips.

[@joeykahng6219]

Hmmm… like you said. “Preference”. Very nice review🤙🏼

[@thatcameranerd]

Thank you

[@GabrielScindian]

Why does the Red have crushed blacks in the shadows on the speaker next to the door at 3:50

[@danbrockettDOP]

They are both great tools. My personal journey with RED has been spotty, at best. REDs seem to break down, crash and have weird problems much more often than Sony, Canon or BMD cameras. On three RED shoots, had firmware and software issues twice and RED Hollywood had to send out a replacement camera twice. And this wasn't a Komodo, these were the mid and high level REDs. If you talk to first ACs, many of them HATE working with REDs for these reasons and others. Boot ups and reboots take forever, black shading, at least on the models I've shot on seemed to take an insanely long time. The REDs make great images but they don't seem quite ready for prime time for me. I would never want to be a shooting a documentary hundreds of miles from civilization or in a foreign country with a RED, I don't trust their reliability at all. Whereas Sony, Canon or even BMD, my experience with them over a couple of decades have shown them to be pretty rock solid reliable. Kinefinity, I've never shot, but have heard some good feedback but I would exercise caution also as far as reliability and service/warranty options, depending on your country.

[@thatcameranerd]

This is the thing about kinefinity and that’s not to say they aren’t reliable but I worry like you said about support. I always remember hearing the story of the RED one filming at a football game and when one of the teams scored everyone jumped up and down and that made all the RED cameras shut down. I think they’ve got better from what I’m finding so far. I’ve had a few blackmagic clips corrupt and when shooting pro-res but I’ve always been able to recover/repair them. The kinefinity has a long boot up but then so does the Komodo

[@ChuckRiseUp]

I bought an MAVO LF mk1 and the motherboard fried up after just testing it in my kitchen! By chance, I have an official reseller that took back the camera and send me another one within a week. Then, I tested again the camera and it was working really good. It is, by far, the best looking image I ever got from a camera but....the motherboard fried up again so I asked for a complete refund. It's very sad, cause I really wanted that camera and the footage coming out of it is outstanding, but this is not a reliable camera. I initially bought it to shoot my first documentary but I think I'm gonna go with a Sony or BMD.

[@thatcameranerd]

@ChuckRiseUp oh wow that sucks I’m really sorry to hear that. Nothing worse than a camera you can’t rely on. Here’s hoping the mark 2 is a little more reliable

[@ChuckRiseUp]

@@thatcameranerd I found the Kinefinity really close to the ARRI look so I was SO happy with the image quality out of it. Also, you can shoot in multiple format, frame rate and codec. On paper, it was the perfect camera for my needs...just sad it was unreliable. Hopefully the mark 2 is more reliable but I'm having trust issues now haha! If I had the money, I would go for the Edge 8K (specially because it has internal ND) but once again, I would have to test the shit out of it before bringing it on a documentary in the middle of the jungle.

[@thatcameranerd]

@@ChuckRiseUp I had a couple of issues with corrupt clips from a couple of different blackmagic cameras. I was able to repair those clips but it does knock your confidence. I think most camera you could have issues with but I think that's one of the reasons Arri get away with charging so much because those cameras are reliable

[@marklholloway]

I’m in this exact same situation. I love shooting on my Komodo and Helium with PL lenses, but it’s not for every project. It’s a lot more work not having Sony or Canon style autofocus. I’ve been considering a C70 or possibly FX6. Glad I’m not alone lol

[@thatcameranerd]

I’ve heard good things about the C70 but I’ve never used one. I would love an FX6 and I know I would definitely use it. All my lenses are EF mount so canon if probably the wise choice but I think I would side more towards Sony cameras

[@rodrigodeantonibrito]

DJI Lidar is amazing

[@thatcameranerd]

It really is

[@stuartswindellcampoy8483]

Another great vid, thanks for having me it was a fun shoot ! The ideal camera would be the sony fx6 with a komodo sensor lol

[@thatcameranerd]

Sony and RED collaboration. I would love a camera collaboration like the vinten and sachtler tripod collaboration.

[@stuartswindellcampoy8483]

@@thatcameranerd one day! Hahaha

[@stuartswindellcampoy8483]

@user-zv7lm8uk7h we'll see, but then again it won't be under 10k I guarantee that maybe

[@JohnMoonstone]

komodo 😍

[@Aviciiz]

That wideshot with the kinefity looked the best imo.

[@thatcameranerd]

I think this test proves we need to all be taking 3 cameras on shoot to cover our wide, medium and close up 😂

[@NathanKatash]

s5IIX into the mix - it was nice to see how the prores compare to the other cameras

[@FadiKhan]

why the faces on the fx6 feel smudged ?

[@Altcine]

Kinefinity looks nice man. Ovwerall....theyre all great

[@thatcameranerd]

You’re right man to be honest I’d be happy with any of these cameras as my main cam

[@ChrisFlores22]

Is there a reason you’d get a mavo over a Komodo?

[@MrJayclas]

Contrast and saturation are the biggest differences

[@joxyart3215]

Komodo is better, u must be blind to not see the difference. He seems like a smooth, warm, pleasant look.

[@heroaomedia]

Geez there no comparison between the two - Komodo was far nicer. I would love to see how PRR raw on the FX6 looks. But great job on this video - this is how comparison videos should be done 🙂

[@heroaomedia]

excited to see more kinefinity footage!

[@thatcameranerd]

@@heroaomedia Thank you 😁 I'm really looking forward to putting the kinefinity video up next week. It was a great camera to test.

[@contentm3893]

What does file size have to do with how good a camera is? It depends on the type of work you're producing. If the best image quality doesn't matter then go with Sony.

[@thatcameranerd]

All factors contribute to whether a camera is right for you including file size and codecs that the camera shoots

[@contentm3893]

@@thatcameranerd File size is not an issue unless you are comparing RAW vs RAW or the same file type. You get a better image from the Komodo big file size.

[@sk8luv33films]

great video breakdown and tips 🔥🔥🔥

[@TJ-po9ol]

Highlights look so gross on the Sony. Correct answer is the C70; ive had FX3, Komodo, C70, R5C etc and C70 is the best with its DGO, internal ND's, internal RAW.

[@KaceyBakerFilms]

Komodo looks so much more cinematic. I jumped ship from Komodo to FX3 and regret it. The FX3 is a briliannnnttt camera, but in terms of solo operator from concept to completion you get a smooth velvet look with Komodo, as seen here in this comparison against the FX6.

[@thatcameranerd]

I love how compact the fx3 is. You could definitely get a lot more in your back pack in terms of lenses and even lights these days. I’m waiting on one an ifootage COB light those things are tiny and 130w. Do you think you’ll stick with Sony for now?

[@KaceyBakerFilms]

@@thatcameranerdI’ll shoot a couple of projects with it and determine wether I stay with the fx3 or move up to KX. I’ve always been a firm believer that lighting can transform everything. I had a project shot on Alexa and Signatures a couple of weeks back and I was rushing my DP, footage came out less cinematic than my project prior on Dragon X and miniS4s. So I’m telling myself that I havvveee to light my next project perfectly on Fx3 for my own darn sanity. Sub if you want to see the outcome, I’ll post in a few weeks. Thanks. Subbed.

[@thatcameranerd]

Thanks for the sub Kacey. Send it over when your don’t would be good to take a look

[@goneloco5793]

Sony is a great "video" camera.

[@HarrisonClaytonInternational]

what camera did you shoot this on in your room that looks nice as fuck man

[@thatcameranerd]

@@HarrisonClaytonInternational thanks it was the Lumix S5 M2

[@Shauny_D]

The IR pollution on the fx6 was just BAD. If I tried to ignore that I probably would have liked it better but it was just too obvious and gross in this scene.

[@thatcameranerd]

That could be why the FX6 has internal ND's we just didn't use them to try and make the test fair. But I think from what I hear its internal NDs are pretty good.

[@ashrafalftieh4029]

3:22 this one is fx6 not Red 🙂

[@ericcoen8894]

Komodo wins

[@profdaddy8870]

I love d texture of kinefinity

[@thatcameranerd]

I was really impressed with the image on kinefinity. I would love to own one it definitely got me excited to shoot more on it

[@profdaddy8870]

@@thatcameranerd me too

[@enriquetoso]

Taking into account all the accessories that the Komodo requires, it's unfair to make this comparison with the internal codec of the FX6 and not with ProRes HQ or ProRes RAW on an external recorder.

[@thatcameranerd]

I think it’s fair to compare any cameras providing you disclose the advantages one camera has over the other. As I mention in the video the Komodo will require more accessories to get it up and running and also the fx6 doesn’t shoot raw and the Komodo does. Despite the fx6 not shooting raw I still think it holds up remarkably well against the Komodo

[@enriquetoso]

@@thatcameranerd I understand. What you're saying is that considering the number of accessories required for the Komodo, it could be compared to a simple monitor that the FX6 needs to record ProRes RAW. You want to make a comparison between ProRes RAW and R3D, as well as different flavors of ProRes, one against the other. Just as you mentioned, "the FX6 doesn't do internal raw," I could say, "the Komodo isn't ready to shoot out of the box." The fairest comparison would be to compare it with external recording on the FX6 to truly assess the quality levels, or ideally, compare codecs with similar bitrates.

[@VIZIONONE]

@@enriquetosoyou’re thinking of what you would like. the majority of us just want a simple a comparison. and why not. it’s not that deep

[@enriquetoso]

@@VIZIONONE Wow, so you represent the majority? If you want "simple" why shoot 10bit? Or why spend $8k in a camera?

[@VIZIONONE]

@@enriquetoso k

[@MrObiorah]

Why don't you compare a Sony fx6 SHOGUN 7 RAW FOOTAGE to the RED KOMODO 3d raw??? This is an unfair comparison

[@victordorantedirector8949]

Why is it unfair?

[@sheikhsabbir190]

​@@victordorantedirector8949make sure they are on their full potential. Maybe you'll need some extra equipment but that's fine

[@samramtv]

Or use them with the same lenses at LEAST…

[@ManzarProductions]

komo literally destroyed fx6 in footage terms

[@itsenoque]

Sony is cinematic, red is commercial