RED Monstro 8K VV and ARRI Alexa LF 4.5K Camera Test 2019

A camera test featuring two of the most preeminent Larger Format Digital Cinema Cameras with the goal of showing how they perform for productions finishing out to 4K resolution..
While nice to view on KZbin, a 60 GB 4K DCI 4096x2160 ProRes 422 HQ file can be downloaded here:
*** new download link in 24 hours. Bandwidth capped out on share link.
Music licensed via Musicbed, credits at the end of the test.

[@bevangoldswain]

Biggest difference for me between these cameras is ... 1: How they represent Blues and Skin tone. RED does not do blue well, it always looks a bit purple, and skin always has green in it. Arri does push the blue a little more towards teal, and there are some yellow values that Arri pushed slightly more towards orange. You can grade your RED footage, and push your blues towards teal and greeny yellow colours towards orange and get close to the Arri look, but there are some colours that are just lost. 2: how well they handle colour in the shadows and highlights. As soon as an area is too dark or too light Red no longer sees much colour, Arri can distinguish between hues in dark and bright areas. 3: Not shown in this test, but fire. Red cannot record an open flame withour making it look like a flourescent yellow sulphur. Side by side Arri always wins when recording fire. 0:35 - Red has hints of Green in skin 2:51 - Red only sees one shade of blue here, Arri sees different hues of blue. 4:13 - bright building loses colour in Red footage, where Arri is able to retain rich colour into the highlights 5:40 - third woman from left, green top. Red cannot capture much colour here at all as it's a bit too dark for the sensor, Arri captures all that colour in the shadows just fine. You can instantly tell Red from Arri by the depth of colour information in shadows and highlights. Whenever shadows and highlights look like they have been desaturated, thats RED. I own both. Arri for the colour, Red for the size and frame rates. People forget these Red advantages for what they are and they do matter. Another valid test (which I have never seen anyone do) is to put both cameras on a scale side by side, RED wins everytime - for some productions weight and size matters.

[@riophae]

If you compare 5:27 vs 5:40 you'll find that RED has actually captured the green well. The issue seems to be introduced while matching to ARRI.

[@gianlucazanga8432]

The only reason why ARRI seems more saturated is cause it has a lot of teal tint on mid tones and shadows, RED has more natural looking colours, you can see it on the color chart comparison.

[@Aviciiz]

4: Arri pushes the reds towards magenta

[@familygonzcartwright]

What do you think of the weight problem now with the Mini LF?

[@djbneozen]

Red also wins at higher iso... But it's a higher iso that destroys the contrast depth, so even though more shades are visible with Red it ends up looking worse in dark scenes. Another odd result in the images is how much more ruddy tones and skin detail appear in Ari shots. A lot of that is lost with Red (unless you want that lesser detail smoothing effect) even thought it's a higher resolution.

[@musicelect]

When you're test video is better than most people's show reel...

[@willdolan.mp4]

Both look fantastic. I have a leaning one way as to which I prefer, but aren't we so lucky to live in a time with so many amazing options! It really can come down to it being the right tool for the job because in the hands of a good DP you'll be able to get such incredible results from either system! Cracking test!

[@phfx]

Yep, easy to make both look good in the right hands. This test wasn't so much about making the prettiest footage, that would be a boring, but pretty test :)

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

The Gold standard is film. Still the best liok, those these come close. Check out the Panavision Millennium Dxl2. Red Monstro 8k, but tweaked. Better than either of these.

[@nicolaslabra2225]

@@scottslotterbeck3796 is there somewhere a test comparing the monstro and the dxl2 ?? im really eager to see that happen, i want to get a relative look at panavision`s color science

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

@@nicolaslabra2225 Well, You can rent a Panavision Millennium for $1,000 a day, probably the same for a RED Monstro, so I guess you could run your own test?

[@nicolaslabra2225]

@@scottslotterbeck3796 id wish, but i live in south america, and finding panavision equipement is near impossible around here

[@XrayTom067]

I find it quite staggering how much more shades of color and reflections you can see with the Arri color science...

[@phantomluts]

On a sensor released in 2010...

[@XrayTom067]

@@phantomluts They already had the game in a chokehold the year they came in!!! On the one side I wanna say "germans am I right!!" they're usually excellent at what they're doing but ARRI has been around for a 100 years so they have enough experience in the business.

[@PlanetFrosty]

Thomas M. Scaling artifacts clear impacting color and gradation-poor job as a Red VV user and Arri user too!

[@Watts24fps]

Exactly ,it's quite apparent in that scene. The skin tones are phenomenal from the Arri.

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

The difference is slight. Watch "Tales from the Loop", shot on the Panavision Millennium dxl2, which uses the RED Monstro 8k VV sensor. Unbelievably beautiful. Rentals available for only $1,000. A day. Minus lenses, of course.

[@nhcvlg]

The little green tint in the Alexa skin tones does EVERYTHING, amazing color science Arri.

[@aleksanderhaugdal9361]

I was expecting the monstro too look harsher tone and color wise, but it really impressed, amazing.

[@aleksanderhaugdal9361]

Very smooth and deep colors on the monstro.

[@sendmechecks]

Monstro is RED ARRI is blue Lowlight performance Begins at 7:32

[@RBFilmsja]

The LF rollof/curves + skin tones does wonders, but the monstro clearly captures more information, the game changer is in post. Both incredibly relevant today, and that says a lot for the LF.

[@codycolvin5022]

Finally, the video I’ve been looking for. Thank you!

[@TonyLaPron]

Oh those Arri fan boys... Both cameras are amazing, although Red is more flexible in post.

[@morucek]

I live in Germany. We have here even more ARRI fan boys around... 😒😒😒

[@TonyLaPron]

@@morucek RED is amazing. I shot on both cameras. Red was always more convenient in post, so many options in r3d.

[@morucek]

@@TonyLaPron it seems to me, that the arri fan boys are going to love their arri anyway, whatever RED can do. they are hyping their alexa and nothing can convince them. i for myself, i know that alexa is a really good camera and its amazing what arri managed to built with alexa so im not running around telling RED is the best, i just prefer RED bc the Gemini was built for me. LL is amazing and i love my gemini. and i am aware thats subjective and not objective. thats the diffrence here in GER. the arri fan boys got confused in whats objective and whats subjective...

[@steviestl2269]

I think Arri still looks better. Red skin tones are greenish like always.

[@e.bomann6942]

Yeah, but I think that the red really improves.

[@bharathkishanbengaluru3710]

No u r telling lie.. Red is looking gorgeous in fornt of our eyes

[@zeccoeze6410]

But will like to it done with a darker skin tone person.

[@FOCUSBELLA]

I think the gap is close. More now than ever. Price point and frame rates would steer me towards a Monstro. Arri our the camera looks great. It's a win win for both companies...

[@michael_dalessandro_lena]

I think it they're using the OLPF that would probably be the reason... or am I wrong?

[@vivjos1262]

In summary: CRISPY RED and a CREAMY ARRI

[@MmungoPark]

Great Test Phil! Both the LF and the Monstro are of course great Cameras. As a Varicam user I am focused on great Colorscience. After this I am sure I will be switching from VariCam to the Monstro. At 3:30 the LF is drowning in noise. Colorwise I see nothing here a great colorist could not achieve from both cameras in post. But you can not unsee the Noise in the LF at ISO 3200. The Monstro knocks the ARRI out of the Park. The resolution and the noiselevels are simply lightyears ahead on the Monstro. Very helpful! Thank you!

[@familygonzcartwright]

It's not necessarily the noise as much as the 8K. It makes the noise looks smaller when downscaled...

[@Bilbo571]

I am interested to see how the Sony Venice stacks up against these cameras too; make it a three-way comparison.

[@sweeppicker4716]

Better than RED and neck-and-neck with ARRI

[@JonPais]

Watching this for the very first time. Thanks, Phil.

[@RudyAyoub]

2:50 For me the alexa owned

[@antdx316]

mega owned

[@carlosq00]

I finally got a chance to see this on a proper monitor. Thank you for taking the time to put this together. This is incredibly useful and your professional insight is over-the-top valuable. The ARRI results are quite nice, but maybe it is the current point in my career - it isn't for me and I am glad to be shooting on RED.

[@sorartificial]

I do not know much about cameras, but I can tell that Arri Alexa looks way better in places with no light, while red looks blue-ish.

[@Solaire21]

please may I have raw footage?

[@TMD_Produktion]

It is not easy to notice big difference between these two cameras due to the youtube compression. But really good comparison of these two monster cameras! 👍

[@joehenry3275]

Throw the Venice in there :)

[@bigkinggg]

Where is downloadable raw files? Footages are not comparable for dynamic range...

[@xiaoyangjin2655]

To my eye. Monstro has better high iso performance. When the iso shifts from low to high, the mid&black keeps neutral than LF. the LF has visible green noise when the iso above 800. I do think Arri has better noise structure though, no visible fixed pattern. the DR is comparable in both camera I can't tell which on is better. I do like the arri's color science and how the same light source is redering different in arri. I mean, I haven't been impressed by the Arri's vista size sensor yet, which seems a sharper version of the regular Alexa for me. on the other hand, Monstro looks much better compare to the Helium.

[@zenova9926]

Because the 8k makes the noise more finer

[@DaCarnival]

On the Xyla chart the R3D is doing slightly better it seems to me.

[@shaygahweh]

Despite color matching Arri still looks more true to life.

[@conormcnamara2273]

This gives me hope for the Panavision DXL2 while the ARRI still outperforms the RED in definition with Warm light skin tones, aswell as shadows and outlines, The RED prevails with skin tones under Tungsten and overall colour richness (In my humble opinion).

[@SP95]

I am not an expert at all, I don't own an HDR capable monitor but It has been correctly been calibrated, my visual acuity is 20/20 . And this is what I notice from my neutral point of view : - Alexa LF is oversharpening the image whereas the Monstro effortlessly renders a neutral amount of detail - When it comes to low light performance, the Alexa LF just throws the towel. Colors gets nuts, noises come to the party - For camera movement the Alexa LF produces more jittery images than the Monstro and this is all thanks to the native 8K format (or bitrate ?) - In daylight condition, It is not the Monstro that is oversaturated but this is really the Alexa LF lacking of dynamic range in the mid tones !! - ARRI Alexa LF handles glare much better. Color balance or color consistency looks better on the Monstro with your shots. Which is surprising since the best strength of ARRI Alexa was mostly its color science but now with the Monstro, at least with your samples I think RED finally took over the highest march of the podium. The physical chemical film tint of the Alexa LF is not worth it anymore, a LUT will do the job on the Monstro if you are really looking for that kind of aspect since the colors are already correct, its easier to step down in color consistency when you have them right at first. Congrats for the take & composition at 5:07 because this is a perfect case to compare both cameras. Not only for skin tones but also the background color & dynamic range too. On the Alexa we can notice the over exposition inside the lamp in daylight mode, skin tones looks incorrect and dull (not flat, dull.) Everyone's hair are glowing and shadows gets crushed. You can't find any of that on the RED Monstro take but comes at a cost, introducing a bit of noise. Also, the RED Monstro seems to grasp an even better color consistency when using daylight only whereas the ARRI Alexa has a slightly better survival rate when coupled with Tungsten light but still not as consistent as the Monstro. This is even more interesting now since these cameras have a comparable sensor size. We could restart the debate about pixel size vs pixel count. In this case 8K seems to have brought a better quality than some thick and plumpy pixels. And mostly, thank you for making this test available to everyone in here, that was fascinating to see the Alexa LF getting overtaken in many cases.

[@EvanWilhelm]

Interesting, and accurate, notes. But he says in a reply to another comment that he did not grade the Arri footage and he did grade the RED. So some color "issues" could have been handled in a simple grade session on the Arri and those same potential issues were likely graded out on the RED. It's a good test but always be aware that what you're looking at has been manipulated already. Really have to go and do something yourself if you want to see differences.

[@ghanshyamc463]

I wonder how the VariCam Pure would stack up against these beasts.. I know these cameras in a whole different league but I'm just curious. I've heard good things about the VariCam's skin tones...

[@JustinMajeczky]

Very interesting findings Phil! Good work here my friend.

[@itslevin.]

I feel like Arri looks way more natural, or even more "3D" compared to the RED. See the shot at 5:04. Look at the faces in the pictures above and below. How much more they are shaped naturally on the Arri. Is it just me or do you see it similar?

[@Broth3rz]

I think the '3D' you are getting is because the background isn't in focus as much in the ARRI then in the RED. Look to the right on the videos, the Dewalt packaging. It's not in focus on the ARRI.. so the people pop out more?

[@itslevin.]

I know what you mean, good point. Still looks a bit flat haha :D @@Broth3rz

[@vlcheish]

You do need to be careful when evaluating some things because depth of field and focusing can sway impressions and it's can be tricky comparing different size sensors. With that said the LF looks better.

[@retroelectrical]

Wow, thanks for all of the hard work in putting together this impressive comparison. Still amazing that we have cameras that are as good as these even though they're not in the price range of most filmmakers, even to rent. But still, we've got cameras like the new Blackmagic Pocket 4k that still give about 60% of what these cameras can do for 1/50th the price.

[@phfx]

I agree that BMD is a great value to performance ratio, but there are some big differences between those and these cameras from a great deal of performance, color, and QC perspectives.

[@dcchavez97]

The music sounds like something out of a Double Dragon video game. Great video!

[@k-studiofilms4707]

Red is best in low light + 8K resolution..

[@DJAnamaly]

Can you do a test also including the Canon 700 FF & Maybe the Kinefinity Mavo LF

[@jipmus]

What happend to the LF at 3200 iso, suddenly green and noisy blacks? Quite a big color shift no?

[@AxTechs]

The highlights and shadows look slightly better on the RED, but the arri is an absolute beast in the midtones, they just look so clean. It really depends on the project. Dark moody, go with RED. Dreamy, go with arri, but with a decent colourist you can easily go the other way as well

[@nicholastoo858]

You can manipulate the light to get the desired look. What it boils down to is resolution.

[@conormcnamara2273]

Superb test! Everyone else take not!

[@derrickcummings3990]

1:27 is this the same iso ? alexa got a advantage here but the size might plays a role too at some point a bigger image leads to more pixels 4:29 the red got a bit more to see top right corner the brown-ish dress part 7:31 the red looks very well here

[@bharathkishanbengaluru3710]

Phil thanks for this ... It helping us which camera should perform very well on spot.. all time high is red.. Arrive lf and red monstrous at what image circle they captured this footage , tell me in mm.. Example ari lf is 36.5mm x 25.5....

[@adrianmack9542]

Can you put the Kinefinity Mavo lf in the mix as well since it's also a full frame cinema camera I want to see how it holds up against the big boy cameras.......

[@iconicmotionpictures1287]

ADRIAN MACK954 Bolder dash!🤣

[@wilsonnguyenprod]

Arri color and details look so good in these test! Wao!! Even in the dark, skintone looks so good on Arri!thank you for the this test!!

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

Tale a look at Panavision Millennium DXL2. The best yet. Amazing.

[@toddpeterson5904]

So when the new download link coming?

[@Watts24fps]

Incredible test and very informative. I was impressed to see how far RED has come and how it can really compete with Arri in some areas. Well with the Monstro anyway. Alexa still has slightly more pleasing skin tones IMO but that can also be preference. I also see more variations of color in the Arri for some reason and that is on a compressed YT video so I can only imagine what it's like out of camera. Very apparent on the girl on the left in that scene comparing skin tones. Dynamic range is insane on both cameras and the red is the clear winner in low light. Can't say the same for the other RED models though which seem to have much higher noise even at 800/1600 ISO. Thanks for sharing!

[@dm.b7560]

Make one with this guys and the Z Cam , as they are comparing themselves with RED and ARRI, still haven't seen a proper profesional test tho...

[@MaxamillianStudio]

Thank you again Phil! The Arri looks amazing (oh that color!!!) and to think there will soon be a LF mini version. In a few shots it seemed the Arri had a bit more detail and with it some additional noise. All the same, my wallet is watering.

[@iAmirx]

It's crazy how much noise there is in the LogC footage at 3:15, and how it completely goes away after applying the Rec709 lut.

[@antdx316]

oh yeah

[@nexuscomm5916]

Was IPP2 used for the RED? Or was it Dragon Color2/RED GAMMA 4?

[@genesung5589]

Thanks for this Phil. Can you do a version without color matching the Red to Arri so we can see the native color science of Red?

[@phfx]

I'll post up some side by sides. I'm at NAB this week.

[@ALwinDigital]

Any chance of getting the rushes to compare ourselves? Not really fond of KZbin's compression.

[@AmazingVisualsOradea]

ARRI shifts Reds and Yellow towards Magenta, Blues and Green towards Cyan, and desaturates Yellows to improve skintones, that is their trick. Overall ARRi has more moody, less saturated tones, giving a more pleasing image out of the box, but It is less accurate to the real world. One thing i did not expect, is for RED to have better Dynamic Range and Lowlight performance.

[@bartoszp2135]

Red way batter, dynamic range, colors (more natural), iso performance.

[@hanspeterschepp]

Nice Phil, Thanks for this!

[@KurtCollins]

Which would you recommend to own? The Monstro 8k VV or the V-Raptor? I really love the look of both. But there is something about the Monstro sensor that still seems more “cinematic” to me. (I hate using that term to describe something. But here we are. Lol) I’m tired of renting and want to own my own. The Alexa 35 or LF could be in order. But it’s just a touch out of my range to own. I’m finding monstro’s for 16-20k fully kitted. But idk if saving 10k-ish is worth not moving into the DSMC3 eco system. What are your thoughts?

[@SEKTORoneGRAFFIX]

Thank you for tests! is it possible you update link for download? :) thank you!

[@jamil1985]

They both are good, The Red looks slightly Crisp and the Arri has a soft touch. Also the color on the Red sometimes seems contrasted.

[@c8vegas]

Shocked by how much more detail there was in the Arri.

[@alexraaen]

I'm shocked that the red is that much cleaner in the shadows. The colors out of the alexa looked better to me in almost every shot, but the versatility of the red monstro and gemini make them the cameras for me.

[@johnburton6470]

Both look good; the Alexa is a clear overall winner here; but can someone explain what's going on at 2:15? Why is that particular shade of blue rendered so unpleasantly by the Alexa on skin? Is that a bad LED with a low R-value? Or a model with highly reflective skin?

[@KittyGuerrillaFilms]

this is awesome phil - can you supply ungraded ftg as well?

[@imnoteliteglobal618]

Verry nice comparison dude 🔥🔥

[@romeosherman5377]

This is the soundtrack: www.musicbed.com/songs/crush/33965 credits: Crush by Makeup and Vanity Set More of them....kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpqoeHV4rsyBfdE

[@AnimeMusicStationEntertainment]

you guys always say ARRI is better but actually RED is really bad when comparing with ARRI? Pls answer

[@hugo.canosa]

Wait, did I just saw 19.5 stops of dynamic range?!

[@zeccoeze6410]

Where did you get the music for this video. especially starting from 7:30

[@kevinsupreme_ph36yearsago59]

If both footages were color graded the same way instead of using the default footage then you won't be able to tell the difference, except for the resolution & highlights.

[@mattr8825]

I am surprised to see the amount of noise that the ARRI had at iso 800, especially compared to the much cleaner RED image. I guess it goes to show the advantage of downsampling.

[@BaciFilms]

Wow! I would almost consider selling 50 of my BMPCC 4k cameras for one of these... LOL

[@vlcheish]

Wow! I would almost consider selling 100 of my a6400 4k cameras for one of these... LOL

[@BananaBoySUS]

@@vlcheish oh i would also sell my 1000 samsungs good inbestment

[@romana8203]

Hi Phil, can you post some Log C frames from some of the initial clips in this video? Myself and others would love to see some of these images prior to your grade.

[@phfx]

This is the LogC to Rec.709 LUT ARRI provides.... I did not grade the ARRI material.

[@romana8203]

Very interesting. Do you think you could post a log c frame any of the clips in this video? Thanks for doing the test!

[@Aviciiz]

I feel like ARRI desaturates the skin tones too much. It's making them all look the same and the 2nd girl on the right almost looks a bit sick. On the RED you can see that the girl with black hair has a bit more of a yellow skintone/darker skintone, but on the ARRI she just looks like a regular white person with black hair.

[@unnivversal]

Probably would be more useful if the contrast was set to medium on the monstro

[@e.bomann6942]

Thanks for the comparison. Red really improved their color profiles. Especially for lob budget feature and documentary productions it's a great camera. Still 8k footage needs so much space, so would be a downer for productions companies.

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

Low budget? $60k kitted out is not low budget!

[@seanharris2398]

I thought the Monstro was better at skins tones hands down. I m suprised because Red was not that great at skin tones for so long, but now I really think they are dialed in.

[@user-sv6dy8pk2q]

Arri the best forever

[@chackojohn6117]

Arri is the BEST...

[@roastedsaltedalmond]

More or less the same! Good to know. Different colors a bit, but can be tweaked. Arri looks a bit nicer sometimes and retains more details in the highlights, but it is such a minuscule difference. I guess now it is down to what is more practical, better built, easier to use...

[@alexandriaoccasional-corte1346]

Astonishingly, RED is way softer than ARRI despite 8k.

[@joshuadxlee]

It's been down scaled

[@keidrychwasley3279]

K’s don’t mean much and aren’t a barometer for resolving power. They’re just a hot term to make people buy cameras and think they have more resolution when they don’t. Watch steve yedlin’s resolution demo for great proof of that.

[@Sae-ez3dx]

A beginner question here... I would prefer capture with BMPCC 6K and applying ARRI LUTs later for getting ARRI's nice-looking skin tones. does it work?

[@isaacbedford3644]

sayooj js check out Emotive Color

[@micheleren1534]

For me Alexa is the winner.

[@ReubenEvans]

Nicely done.

[@shafariabdulazam5012]

Color science arri is great

[@carlosvidalwitt7901]

Hi, Phil, your test is beautiful. But with others DP's we have a doubt about what kind of lights are on the "exterior night". Do you know what type of light source is it?

[@phfx]

Practical tungsten bulb, 4X Litepanel Gemini, and 2X Hive Wasp 200-Cs for the implied car headlights.

[@carlosvidalwitt7901]

@@phfx thanks!

[@leebrandt33]

So from the dynamic range chart, I'm seeing the Monstro with 15 stops, and the Arri with 13.5 stops. This is surprising...

[@riophae]

I was seeing RED with 17 stops and ARRI with 14 stops, just as advertised by each manufacture of them.

[@AlexDerrick_DP]

@@riophae Yes, for the first time I am seeing that Red has 16+ stops not using HDRx. I think it is the IPP2 as well as Monstro. Also the 8K makes noise smaller. RED clean enough to eat off of. ARRI five second rule... ha!

[@TheMonkeyboynine11]

Thank you!

[@lahirupramudithadewasurend3082]

Awesome!!!!

[@nekiy83]

Сначала рулит Arri. Но ближе к концу сильное зерно Arri - уже брак. Градиент серого удивил, выиграл RED. Хотя признаю, что вопрос спорный, так как в некоторых кадрах ARRI лучше прорисовал тени. Цвет кожи - очень относительно, поскольку два щелчка на цветокоррекции сделает их одинаковыми. Вывод: RED не так плох, как о нем говорят любители ARRI.

[@remphey]

Arri: better Videos Red: cooler design :)

[@venturestar]

I'm not an expert but Arri is the winner for me

[@dudew8678]

red best

[@romana8203]

This test doesn't sit right in some ways, but it's hard to assess the actual differences between the cameras without seeing log footage. It feels like you have pushed the shadows further down in post on the Alexa footage than what would normally happen with just a "REC 709 LUT". I would be very interested in seeing Log frame grabs from both cameras. Anyone who goes through this amount of effort for a comparison will usually show what both cameras are doing before any LUT or color grade. Overall, this test feels a little fishy honestly

[@phfx]

Arri literally provided the camera and LUT btw. I'll be posting some log frames after NAB.

[@MrYoniphoto]

I would take the Red Gemini over any camera out there.

[@paulstevenson6661]

Gemini is a phenomenal camera

[@iiiiiiiiiiooooooouuu]

at 9:55 . why did you overexpose and then pulled down ? to see if the footage wouldn't crash ?

[@MAVROro]

Arri colors I like best

[@bmbfilmshd]

That ARRI Alexa LF Thooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@apexhunter333]

Red is more detailed which is nice for a certain project but I like the softness of the Arri.

[@nobimathew9092]

Arri is natural.. loved it..

[@tears2040]

Why are different field of views shown here, should have done a better job matching focal lengths to give a better comparison between cameras. Regardless Arri looks better

[@edpr2244]

Arri color is so good! Just comparing the to blue hues at 2:50--the blue on Red is almost purple.

[@atar5396]

red is also cheaper than arri

[@bigkinggg]

Test is not fair. Arri Alexa LF used Rec 709 Lut. Sucks color correction method. Where is downloadable raw files.

[@phfx]

Both are each manufacturers Rec.709.....

[@nnm86]

2:42 Look at this! Lens flares on Arri camera looks fantastic! But at RED you see low vibrance and clipping on hightlights! And i think that 8k resolution does not give advantages to the RED cam (sry for my english)