Red Sox reportedly used replay room to steal signs in 2018

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The Boston Red Sox reportedly used their replay room to steal signs in 2018. The Michael Kay Show discusses. Subscribe for daily sports videos!
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@adrianchase6922
@adrianchase6922 4 жыл бұрын
I heard that Alex Cora's favorite WWE superstar was Latino Heat, Eddie Guerrero. Famous for his line - "Lie, Cheat, Steal".
@Eragonfrost
@Eragonfrost 4 жыл бұрын
Best comment
@adrianchase6922
@adrianchase6922 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks and here's another....with all the cheating scandals going on with the Boston franchises, you'd think that Whitey Bulger was still alive. And u know if Theo Epstein ever crossed Whitey after a shakedown he too would end up being Epsteined!!!
@tommcauley449
@tommcauley449 4 жыл бұрын
where did you hear that Adrian?? go back to sleep you clown
@vintage_85
@vintage_85 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@adrianchase6922
@adrianchase6922 4 жыл бұрын
Triggered much Tom McAuley? Damn son, you should charge me rent for being in your head so much. All up in yer feelings are ya? Well, I know just the thing to make you feel better. You can be one of the first to see my remake of Neil Diamond's old classic - Sweet Caroline. Retitled "Cheat and Deny" Here we go..... Cheat and Deny [Verse 1] Where to begin? Been caught cheating all summer Now it's just one long bummer, Damn How can I win? With so much competition There has to be a system of hidden cams [Pre-Chorus] Hands, banging cans Screaming out, on a tee, just for you [Chorus] Cheat and Deny - Duh, Duh, Duh Good times have come to an end I've been inclined - Duh, Duh, Duh To end up cheating once again Thanks Manfred [Verse 2] Cora's a friend We've learned so much together Like two birds of a feather, yeah Carlos Beltran He's like another brother Some'd call him a mother...you know, man [Pre-Chorus] Hands, banging cans Screaming out, on a tee, just for you [Chorus] End Hope you enjoyed the remake.....Slapnuts!
@Babekue1989
@Babekue1989 4 жыл бұрын
What do the 2017 Astros and 2018 Red Sox have in common?? Alex Cora.
@phillyfrenchy6053
@phillyfrenchy6053 4 жыл бұрын
What do the 2017 Astros and 2018 Yankkes have in common?? Beltran as special adviser to GM. Yankees fans should really not be so loud, it's coming.
@robertmaxwell6065
@robertmaxwell6065 4 жыл бұрын
they cheated
@carlosquintero8332
@carlosquintero8332 4 жыл бұрын
Both Cheaters
@harpoon_bakery162
@harpoon_bakery162 4 жыл бұрын
@@phillyfrenchy6053 Yankees didn't cheat, the ass-tros and the red sox did, it's documented. but the commissioner is letting all the players off the hook. it's already a deal that is signed, sealed ..... so the commish wanted to save his own paycheck.
@SolitarySoldier
@SolitarySoldier 4 жыл бұрын
Harpoon_Bakery the yankees without a doubt have done this as well. Just haven’t gotten caught because manfred needs them for publicity for a dying sport
@hagnonebackup
@hagnonebackup 4 жыл бұрын
It’s just hilarious that my 2 least favorite teams got accused of cheating
@joetheastrosfan3460
@joetheastrosfan3460 4 жыл бұрын
What’s also halarious is that my new rival team cheated as well
@TheForcerYT
@TheForcerYT 4 жыл бұрын
Same here bro 😂
@gianzack9022
@gianzack9022 4 жыл бұрын
YankeesFan99 I hate these two teams as well thank you 🙏. Also let’s go Yankees!!!
@minervagarza95
@minervagarza95 4 жыл бұрын
Don't kid yourself Yankee's did too, but NY based MLB looks the other way (every time)it is well known , 2017-2019 they cheated too, these guys are biased because NY is their team in 90% of sportswriters, announcers KZbin channels like this, they are Yankee fans in their eyes Yankees can do no wrong...but the fact is Yankee's lost because they were not good enough period swallow that choke on it, MLB will NEVER look into because they know they will find something.....fact everyone knows this...
@tommcauley449
@tommcauley449 4 жыл бұрын
yeah. hilarious this coning from a Yankees fan??? the most hated team in sports?
@dodger1214
@dodger1214 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Cora should be banned from baseball for life. He compromised baseball's biggest event, TWICE! An example must be made.
@chadscott8733
@chadscott8733 4 жыл бұрын
Red Sox were fined for doing it in 2017, which was BEFORE 2018.
@elinmn9703
@elinmn9703 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Cora sucked as a player; now as a manager he needs to cheat.
@im_waffles2920
@im_waffles2920 4 жыл бұрын
Chad Scott no, they are being fined for 2018. The Astros are getting it from 2017. Alex Cora led the Astros after 2017 and became the Red Sox manager.
@chadscott8733
@chadscott8733 4 жыл бұрын
@@im_waffles2920 I am aware of the new allegations. BUT I am referring to the fact that the Red Sox were also fined in 2017 along with the Yankees.
@im_waffles2920
@im_waffles2920 4 жыл бұрын
Chad Scott oh yes I get it.
@Nino-bu1cx
@Nino-bu1cx 4 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for the Dodgers they got screwed twice
@im_waffles2920
@im_waffles2920 4 жыл бұрын
Mars the Red Sox didn’t cheat in the playoffs
@losangeleslakers1650
@losangeleslakers1650 4 жыл бұрын
@@im_waffles2920 bullshit. What drugs are you on bud?
@davidsouthard9310
@davidsouthard9310 4 жыл бұрын
lmao, yeh right!!!
@therealjaystone2344
@therealjaystone2344 4 жыл бұрын
Feel bad that a NY-LA WS was snatched by Cora
@tra-guy7128
@tra-guy7128 4 жыл бұрын
Los Angeles Lakers it said it in the fucking tweets. He’s right, they didn’t cheat in the playoffs.
@telephonic
@telephonic 4 жыл бұрын
2017 and 2018 World Series are both tainted.
@nathanhansen1846
@nathanhansen1846 4 жыл бұрын
telephonic no lol
@im_waffles2920
@im_waffles2920 4 жыл бұрын
Not the 2018 one though. They didn’t do it in the playoffs . They couldn’t.
@andrewpestotnik5495
@andrewpestotnik5495 4 жыл бұрын
MLB had a guy in the tunnel to make sure this didn't happen in postseason, sorry
@notoriouseagle1074
@notoriouseagle1074 4 жыл бұрын
You guys won a Champions League title with one of the worst handball calls I've ever seen, shut up.
@telephonic
@telephonic 4 жыл бұрын
@@notoriouseagle1074 A single solitary handball equates to a manager with two seasons of illegal stealing of signs, okay idiot... Cora getting banned for life hopefully.
@natebaker72
@natebaker72 4 жыл бұрын
Cheating and Boston go together like burgers and fries...
@AndCo_Motors
@AndCo_Motors 4 жыл бұрын
Nate Baker more like Chicken and Beer 😂😂
@tommcauley449
@tommcauley449 4 жыл бұрын
Really Nate? And where do you come from? That special place where no one cheats , or in this case ,accused of cheating. Or , probably most accurate, caught for cheating I think you meant to say cheating and professional sports go together like burgers and fries. Then again you sound like an angry fan who is gonna present the NFL with new facts to show that The Patriots are only the greatest NFL dynasty in the history of the league because they "cheated". Grow up cry baby
@natebaker72
@natebaker72 4 жыл бұрын
@@tommcauley449 well it seems like just about every time there's a story about cheating spying, videotaping, or deflating, it's always a Boston team involved...especially in this case where your manager was on the Astros when they had their scandal ...sorry but you get no benefit of the doubt.. .FACTS!!!
@Memorex996
@Memorex996 4 жыл бұрын
cocaine and waffles
@JB-zo7ln
@JB-zo7ln 4 жыл бұрын
@@Memorex996 strippers and crack
@Psandoval85
@Psandoval85 4 жыл бұрын
That explains how they beat NY in 2018. Moral of the story: Teams need to cheat to beat these Yankees. 2017 Astros and 2018 Sox. Disgraceful.
@carlberentzen699
@carlberentzen699 4 жыл бұрын
Red sox couldn 't do this during the postseason because MLB had a guy sitting in the video room to check. So this didn't impact the playoffs at all.
@dino988
@dino988 4 жыл бұрын
And most likely the 2019 Astros as well.
@Psandoval85
@Psandoval85 4 жыл бұрын
@@dino988 Of course. Why would they stop when it's been working for them. Watch the Astros crumble in 2020 without their cheating.
@dino988
@dino988 4 жыл бұрын
Psandoval85 truth be told
@wilberguzman8514
@wilberguzman8514 4 жыл бұрын
Psandoval85 you’re a fucking moron if you think the Astros will crumble 😂
@jayp8124
@jayp8124 4 жыл бұрын
Players should be punished as well for not having Integrity.
@ForCedar777
@ForCedar777 4 жыл бұрын
Jay P81 💯
@jameslayco9
@jameslayco9 4 жыл бұрын
Jay P81 altuve is guilty
@timbobjustthefacts6712
@timbobjustthefacts6712 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, suspend those Yank players too.
@jayp8124
@jayp8124 4 жыл бұрын
@@timbobjustthefacts6712 no one said anything about Yankee players .
@timbobjustthefacts6712
@timbobjustthefacts6712 4 жыл бұрын
Sequence bottom of 9th ALCS game 6. CU stands for Change Up. Curve equals slider or curve or CU, definitely not a Fastball or FB. Read and see how Chapman's command started slipping with the FB against Springer. Had command early but lost it. 1. Maldonado P-1 strike FB-swinging 0-1. P-2 FB looking 0-2. P-3 FB swinging foul tip. P-4 FB foul tip. P-5 Change up/curve bottom zone strike out swinging. 2. Reddick P-6 CU strike swinging. P-7 FB foul tip. P-8 86 mph change up fouled over 1st base. P-9 87 mph CU FT. P-10 FB 100 mph hit, pop up caught in short left field. 3. Springer P-11 strike CU/curve inside bottom zone. P-12 Ball CU low. P-13 86 mph CU/Curve low-ball. P-14 98 mph FB way high outside right side of plate. Command seems to be slipping. P-15 97 mph FB high. WALK. 4. Altuve P-16 99 mph FB high and outside ball 1. P-17 97 mph FB high outside ball 2. P-18 85 mph CU/Slider strike looking 2-1. P-19 84 mph CU right center, Altuve sitting on it, bye bye.
@ScuuBdoo
@ScuuBdoo 4 жыл бұрын
Have to disagree with Kay on this one. This is cheating.
@xjay43x
@xjay43x 4 жыл бұрын
Ban Cora For Life
@ac_-ci6xb
@ac_-ci6xb 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is Cora reoffending cheating with Houston in 17 then 18 with Red Sox
@wybze
@wybze 4 жыл бұрын
How is it not cheating??? It's using electronic equipment during the game.....the rule is very clear.
@WillKat66
@WillKat66 4 жыл бұрын
Totally disagree. Cheating period. Hou>Cora>Bos 🤔🤦🏼‍♂️
@bobheck7303
@bobheck7303 4 жыл бұрын
And so many people hate the Yankees? Hate the liars and cheaters. Inspectors are needed for random undercover. DISGUSTING!
@baseball6831
@baseball6831 4 жыл бұрын
Players should be held accountable as well.
@samuelsandate9804
@samuelsandate9804 4 жыл бұрын
Manager and GM's were in position to stop the cheating, and they didn't do it.
@scottshaw8864
@scottshaw8864 4 жыл бұрын
Either way you are using electronics to get info during a game, the Astros situation was obviously worse but you can't just disregard the Sox as gamesmanship. C'mon.
@djt8870
@djt8870 4 жыл бұрын
Cora hinch lunnow banned for life
@sjang816
@sjang816 4 жыл бұрын
dont forget beltran. if all goes according to plan the mets will win it all in 2020
@therealjaystone2344
@therealjaystone2344 4 жыл бұрын
@@sjang816 Mets can try to cheat and still won't make the playoffs
@steveperez178
@steveperez178 4 жыл бұрын
@@sjang816 Last time I checked Beltran wasn't in a position of power like those guys. If you're going to say that Beltran should be banned, then so should every other player on that team (according to you).
@dhacker949
@dhacker949 4 жыл бұрын
They need to ban the players, too. The penalty has to be so harsh that it never happens again.
@therealjaystone2344
@therealjaystone2344 4 жыл бұрын
Dean Hacker More like take away their trophy
@Yamtz250
@Yamtz250 4 жыл бұрын
I'd also like to disagree with Kay on this...Michael, what are you thinking? Any data that is obtained electronically and is then used an advantage is unethical, immoral and ILLEGAL! I do like your idea of getting rid of the team's replay analysis. Knowing whether the next pitch is a fastball or off speed ball is worse than having a juiced batter come to the plate.
@IvoryTaurean
@IvoryTaurean 4 жыл бұрын
Teams have been stealing signs since the 1950s the 1951 Giants use technology at that time to steal signs it's going to happen whether it's by technology or by real-time if you do it after a game if you decipher it that's gamesmanship it's the same way in football if a quarterback comes up to the line and the other team is able to figure out what the check is in real time and what the audible call is. that's gamesmanship because that's based on film study of the other team and figuring out hey this is their strategy in this situation. where I have the issue with is when teams do that in real time when teams use technology in real time to steal signs and steal calls.
@yankeesfanforlife506
@yankeesfanforlife506 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Kay is the man but sorry It was cheating Michael... “Gamesmanship” 😂
@robertocruz8429
@robertocruz8429 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly🤣
@DivinionFaith
@DivinionFaith 4 жыл бұрын
I mostly agree with Michael Kay, but there is one key element to this scenario that makes me disagree with you. If the report is correct and they had a camera pointed directly at the catcher watching the signs specifically, then it is very much cheating. Yes, the signs can still be seen on live broadcasts of the game, but the camera views are bouncing all over the place and is not showing every single sign work up given by a catcher when there are players on base. If they can figure it out from the live broadcasts and figure it out, then I'm right there with you Michael. If they have a camera of their own pointed directly at the catcher watching their signs, then it's cheating.
@etamommy
@etamommy 4 жыл бұрын
dude that is the point....if they can figure it out from live broadcasts why do they have the camera pointed at the catcher from their video room!?!!? OF course it is cheating!!!! The Astros situation is even worse because it happened all the time it seems but this is cheating and Kay is not thinking straight if he really believes what he purports to here.
@losangeleslakers1650
@losangeleslakers1650 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty simple concept if you ask me , but Michael is an idiot.
@wctgttm
@wctgttm 4 жыл бұрын
It's not their camera being used here, it's the cameras the umpires use to review challenges. These exist at every ballpark, this room is usually where the managers are looking when they have their hand up to the umpires waiting to find out if they should challenge. Lesser extent of cheating than the Astros but still cheating.
@DivinionFaith
@DivinionFaith 4 жыл бұрын
@@wctgttm 1:05 to sets it up about their video room then at 1:13 "they [Red Sox] had video cameras that were fixed on the catcher's signs" That's the report. The whole it's not their cameras being used here is a flawed statement. Even though you are supporting it being called cheating, I figured I'd still correct the misunderstanding. The reports are saying that the club had their own camera set up watching specifically the signs only.
@wctgttm
@wctgttm 4 жыл бұрын
@@DivinionFaith Hmm, if that's true it's a little worse than I thought. If it turns out Cora was behind both the Astros situation and this I hope MLB brings down the hammer on him.
@ShortyG724
@ShortyG724 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the same exact same thing Michael. Electronics were used in real time to give the Red Sox a clear and unfair advantage. Both circumstances involved a fixed camera and men working behind the scenes to decipher the signs, which were relayed to the team. The only difference is the delivery method to the batter. The same process with the same end result. If one team is punished they both need to be.
@Sokeresa
@Sokeresa 4 жыл бұрын
Amen brother, my point exactly!
@kurumauzamaki2731
@kurumauzamaki2731 4 жыл бұрын
Both need to be punished but Boston shouldn’t receive as big a punishment because they needed a player on base to give signs
@ShortyG724
@ShortyG724 4 жыл бұрын
I agree but if one team is held accountable, then they both do. It’s no coincidence that Cora was involved in the ‘17 scandal with the Astros, and then the VERY next year, his FIRST year as manager, the Sox have an amazing season and go on to win the World Series.
@kurumauzamaki2731
@kurumauzamaki2731 4 жыл бұрын
MattyG 724 what I’m saying is astros could’ve been cheating at any time for Boston they at least needed a runner so they shouldn’t have as harsh a punishment
@Sokeresa
@Sokeresa 4 жыл бұрын
@@kurumauzamaki2731 same deal. What it's important in baseball, and how you really win, IS BY BRINGING RUNNERS HOME!!!! Every time there is someone one base - automatic run.... Cheating is cheating.... It's like saying he didn't take steroids, he ONLY took hgh.... same deal.... both illegal!!!!
@josephubil
@josephubil 4 жыл бұрын
BTW, the Yankees were fined an undisclosed amount by the MLB Commissioner back in 2017 for stealing signs.
@guidoluzzi66
@guidoluzzi66 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Ubil false. The Yankees sent copious amounts of evidence to prove the Red Sox and Astros were stealing signs via electronic devices. . The commissioners office ignored everything the Yankees sent as they always do. no one is going to cheat and then ask for an investigation into cheating. Go back to watching NESN
@josephubil
@josephubil 4 жыл бұрын
jarrett rafffo go do your homework...the Yankees were fined...that’s a fact, period.
@SolitarySoldier
@SolitarySoldier 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Ubil EXACTLY. Yankee fans dont wanna hear it but they’re as dirty as any other team in the sport. Go look at how many championships they won in the 90s and how many of those players did steroids. Their comeback to my statement is “well everyone did it so it doesn’t matter.” It does matter when you’re artificially enhanced winning and making all this $ and costing opponents jobs
@jamesrwallace77
@jamesrwallace77 4 жыл бұрын
It’s kind of like how the 4th amendment protects against unreasonable searches. Without a warrant, law enforcement only has the right to see where they have the right to be. A runner has the right to be on second base. They don’t have the right to be on the center field wall.
@frankstange7180
@frankstange7180 4 жыл бұрын
Still cheating
@gianzack9022
@gianzack9022 4 жыл бұрын
Stop the cheating!!!
@haywoodjablomie3830
@haywoodjablomie3830 4 жыл бұрын
All the technology in the world. Why the hell does the replay room even have to be in the ballpark? Last I heard video signals could be sent thru the air. And people could talk thru these new devices called "phones".
@navrotron22
@navrotron22 4 жыл бұрын
Altuve should have to hand his MVP trophy over to Judge during a press conference and then kiss his shoes in front of the media. Judge already had way better stats by an ABSURD margin, but now that we know Altuve’s offensive production was at least 40% because of cheating, that makes the fact that Judge didn’t win the 2017 MVP ridiculous.
@nickc2193
@nickc2193 4 жыл бұрын
But they still used cameras Michael
@REVOFEV792
@REVOFEV792 4 жыл бұрын
They have access to iPads in the dugout. They can watch replays and the game in realtime and relay signs that way.
@SolitarySoldier
@SolitarySoldier 4 жыл бұрын
REVOFEV the yankees have their ipads out in the dugout too. They absolutely cheat as much as any other team. Don’t believe me? How many guys in their organization cheated with steroids to win championships. Brian cashman better be careful because if word gets out they cheated hes gonna look really bad for bashing the redsox and astros
@rjmooothicalshow4778
@rjmooothicalshow4778 4 жыл бұрын
This pisses me off so f ing much can you just win a world series FAIRLY???
@im_waffles2920
@im_waffles2920 4 жыл бұрын
R&J Mooothical Show the Nats are our last hope.
@americanpatriot3874
@americanpatriot3874 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr yankees cant either steroids, buying players
@calebethebeastpc7629
@calebethebeastpc7629 4 жыл бұрын
@@im_waffles2920 Next thing you know in a couple weeks the Nats are going to be accused of cheating to win the 2019 WS😂😆
@patar202
@patar202 4 жыл бұрын
Been saying this about instant replay since the beginning totally agree
@judyalcatraz918
@judyalcatraz918 4 жыл бұрын
As a dodger fan this is sickening to find out 🤦
@Undertaker5579
@Undertaker5579 4 жыл бұрын
Remember in 2005 dodgers vs cards and Kershaw cy young had a 1hitter and there up 4-0 then Kershaw suddenly starts tipping his pitches?. I knew then baseball was corrupt
@mwalako
@mwalako 4 жыл бұрын
Love the argument "It just is"
@tdement90
@tdement90 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah... he's a clown and can't even defend it. There's no good explanation that he gave for them cheating.
@raoulduke2513
@raoulduke2513 4 жыл бұрын
I've been listening to Micheal Kay for like 30 years and I find him very unlikeable and he displays very questionable moral character.
@GeoffNelson
@GeoffNelson 4 жыл бұрын
Preposterous argument. Of course it’s cheating!
@robdow6348
@robdow6348 4 жыл бұрын
How do you know the electronic signals weren’t sent real time, via text to bench and hand signals to batter?
@justaguy2648
@justaguy2648 4 жыл бұрын
Funny how Michael doesn’t mention the Yankees were also included in the article
@baseball7309
@baseball7309 4 жыл бұрын
but the havent beeb accused of anything
@justaguy2648
@justaguy2648 4 жыл бұрын
base ball yes they were they were included in the athletic article
@1202ninja
@1202ninja 4 жыл бұрын
MLB told both Red Sox and Yankees in 2017 to stop that nonsense after MLB finally created rules against it (because there weren't any rules against it in the first place) just that in 2018 the Red Sox said screw MLB rules and continue to do it.
@itsalwayssomething7490
@itsalwayssomething7490 4 жыл бұрын
Funny how Kay also defended the Red Sox.
@joetheastrosfan3460
@joetheastrosfan3460 4 жыл бұрын
The Yankees are being accused by the Astros for STEALING SIGNS in May of our Lord 2018
@1virgosmith
@1virgosmith 4 жыл бұрын
Apple Watch, deflated footballs.... etc etc.
@1virgosmith
@1virgosmith 4 жыл бұрын
Big Picture Bub
@courtgizzle
@courtgizzle 4 жыл бұрын
Virgo Smith smart phones and smart watches should be prohibited by the players during game time
@pt190
@pt190 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like a hard thing to actually prevent in the sport. The best thing for this type of cheating is heavy heavy punishment...draft picks...fines that aren’t cheap
@MrTitanic222
@MrTitanic222 4 жыл бұрын
Until this scandal, I had no idea that BIll Belichick also serves as a "signals coach" for the Red Sox...
@garycotie6983
@garycotie6983 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone was yelling let’s go Astros in the hall... I was face palming that whole time.
@RyukinJakka
@RyukinJakka 4 жыл бұрын
Michael made no sense here 😂😂
@mwalako
@mwalako 4 жыл бұрын
[ ] Did they use electronics to steal signs? - Yes - Guilty
@GavinRounds3
@GavinRounds3 4 жыл бұрын
Ya, but if the Red Sox got a man on second base it is an automatic run right? And a run can make a huge difference in some games especially in the postseason
@im_waffles2920
@im_waffles2920 4 жыл бұрын
GRapid Thracer they didn’t cheat in the post season.
@pidayrocks2235
@pidayrocks2235 4 жыл бұрын
@@im_waffles2920 Who said that? All they said was it didn't seem to be as effective in the postseason because signs were changing more frequently. Considering they won the WS, though, I have a hard time believing it was "less effective" -- I'm not even sure how one would measure the level of effectiveness without knowing exactly what plays they cheated on and which ones they didn't... so either they cheated during the postseason or they didn't but I'm not buying the idea that they "cheated less effectively" -- which is all I've heard so far.
@im_waffles2920
@im_waffles2920 4 жыл бұрын
Pi Day Rocks the MLB has officials in the camera rooms for the playoffs so the Red Sox couldn’t cheat. Look it up.
@antihypocrisy1894
@antihypocrisy1894 2 жыл бұрын
@@im_waffles2920 who cares if they cheat in the postseason??? in order to make the postseason u have to win in the regular season and they cheated in practically all of their games... the title is tainted period.. fuck the red sox
@David-zy1jw
@David-zy1jw 4 жыл бұрын
don't be a victim, yeah, say that to all victims, it's your stupidity, don't blame the offender. yep, new age justice from YES
@Cashonly23
@Cashonly23 4 жыл бұрын
Why isn't nobody talking about my Dodgers losing to back to back cheaters I swear u ppl never give the Dodgers credit
@antoniolujan2414
@antoniolujan2414 4 жыл бұрын
Dodgers 2017 2018 work champs Kershaw MVP on both Series pinches tramposos😡
@joebondo2422
@joebondo2422 4 жыл бұрын
Teams can’t just go out and play hard to try & win a $&%#* game anymore. Damn shame.
@im_waffles2920
@im_waffles2920 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Bondo the Orioles do... but not well.
@bob88pct
@bob88pct 4 жыл бұрын
Don is blaming the victim, not the person breaking the rules, that's smart.
@brmillgr
@brmillgr 4 жыл бұрын
Sox fan here, this has been a sad week, thought Cora was a good manager and now I know why every move he made came up roses in the postseason. Cora should be banned for life, this is gross misconduct.
@t206kid
@t206kid 4 жыл бұрын
Players have cheated since baseball was started. Some of the way these guys cheated in the past were clever. You can say gamesmanship, but in the end if you get caught doing it then its still cheating. If I rob a store and dont get caught does that mean that everything is ok? No, it means I am still on the loose to do it again, the store suffers, and the next place I will do it to suffers. Red Sox, Astros, Steroid guys, Spitballers (post 1919), corked bat users they are all forms of cheating. All would be punished to various degrees
@keiobata0404
@keiobata0404 4 жыл бұрын
1. Remove WS titles from Astros and Red Sox 2. Start with 10 losses per season for 3 straight seasons until 2023 3. Remove International Bonus Signing Money 4. Get rid of 1st and 2nd round draft picks (Astros) 5. Suspend Cora, Hinch, other staff members for 2 years
@glenn8886
@glenn8886 4 жыл бұрын
The key to this is not how hard the punishment is, it's about how much impacts can the punishment put on every single team and how the league prevent treating happen again. It's meaningless to get rid of their WS title and start with 10 losses, and it is impossible. You might hate what I said, but please don't put your personal angriness on these two teams, they are not the only teams doing that, we need to find a way to solve the issue, not firing on these two teams. What you suggest is just not fair to anyone.
@gonzaloarroyo3579
@gonzaloarroyo3579 4 жыл бұрын
Man... we waited 29 years to get to a World Series for this $h!t to happen to us!
@Undertaker5579
@Undertaker5579 4 жыл бұрын
2005 against stl Kershaw suddenly started tipping pitches. 2017 astros score 13 runs off Kershaw. 2018 red sox miracle hitting. 2019 back to back Homer's off Kershaw. This has been going on for a long time.
@mfrmfr7846
@mfrmfr7846 4 жыл бұрын
Every team is using the video replay to their advantage. The MLB must not allow the use/see any replay until the play has been declared official. Teams should not be allowed to have/use cameras for any part of a game.
@FeelsLikeDboss
@FeelsLikeDboss 4 жыл бұрын
Why did we have to have Drew Brees standing there for a minute lol
@chaosawaits
@chaosawaits 4 жыл бұрын
I bet A LOT of teams were using tech the same way as Boston Red Sox. This is a huge deal.
@DannyYankou
@DannyYankou 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with Michael. I don’t have nearly as big a problem with what the Red Sox did as I do with the Astros.
@Trump-st1eg
@Trump-st1eg 4 жыл бұрын
It's the same thing they both are unworthy of their WS titles and should be stripped period.
@hackattack7811
@hackattack7811 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree. It's still cheating. So, the red Sox only cheated when a man was on second base. It's still cheating
@zachmaudie9686
@zachmaudie9686 4 жыл бұрын
@Frank Graham I mean the solution is pretty simple..
@endlessnameless3996
@endlessnameless3996 4 жыл бұрын
I bet you don't have a problem with the Yankees relaying signs with the bullpen phones either.
@larkmacallan4257
@larkmacallan4257 4 жыл бұрын
THEY FUCKING USED THE REPLAY ROOM MIKE. YOU CAN'T DO THAT. IT'S USING TECHNOLOGY. JESUS CHRIST
@aivepetcuracao2040
@aivepetcuracao2040 4 жыл бұрын
Stop tv from filming when the catcher is putting down the signs, so if there's video of the catcher it's on the team trying to steal signs
@keithmontoya6259
@keithmontoya6259 4 жыл бұрын
The last two teams to legitimately win the WS are the Cubs and Nationals.
@washo2222
@washo2222 4 жыл бұрын
Remember when Baseball was just a game where some guys just wanted to get together and play. The first officially recorded baseball game in U.S. history took place on June 19, 1846, in Hoboken, New Jersey: the "New York Nine" defeated the Knickerbockers, 23-1, in four innings. There may have been sign stealing then but in 1869 in Cincinnati, Ohio, MLB was formed and they said let's make some rules to make the game legitimate. I’m sure one of the rules was about sign stealing but apparently it never was looked at as "cheating.” Shawn Klein, a sports ethicist and Arizona State University philosophy lecturer, said of sign stealing, “I’m always hesitant to use the word cheating because that already implies that what you’re doing is wrong." He continues to say "The practice isn’t necessarily wrong especially if every team has the same opportunity to do it. What likely concerns MLB leaders are the lengths teams have taken to protect their signals.” If you think no team has ever stolen signs before, think again: I’m sure someone’s favorite team will be found here. bleacherreport.com/articles/1142879-memorable-sign-stealing-moments-in-major-league-baseball-history#slide0 and how about the poor poor Los Angeles Dodgers. korkedchicago.com/blogs/the-dugout/4-pieces-of-evidence-that-the-dodgers-cheated-during-the-nlcs (October 20, 2017). Anyone who believes that not every team has used sign stealing is living in a Fantasy Baseball World. I’m a Baseball fan. I would like to see the game cleaned up and free from this nonsense. It makes the players look bad, it makes the game look bad, it makes the teams look bad and it distresses the fans especially the kids who look up to the players. I’m discouraged by each and every team who is caught stealing signs but I’m not discouraged by the sport. I just want it to be played fair and square just like in 1839 when Abner Doubleday invented it. Is that too much to ask?
@ShokusApolloTV
@ShokusApolloTV 4 жыл бұрын
I love these two
@jerseywood12
@jerseywood12 4 жыл бұрын
Dam who gonna be next for cheating the blue jays lmao 😂
@JustMeELC
@JustMeELC 4 жыл бұрын
NJ Mastermind Look at our stats lol CLEARLY the Jays didn't cheat hehe ;o)
@bobheck7303
@bobheck7303 4 жыл бұрын
Time to put the hate on liars and cheaters. Ban repeat offenders and do random inspections. Severe penalties are in order to clean up this horseshit that mars the history of the game. DISPICABLE!
@clintfowler1526
@clintfowler1526 4 жыл бұрын
Bob Heck you act like people don’t do it on every team
@bobheck7303
@bobheck7303 4 жыл бұрын
@@clintfowler1526 THEY DON'T! So many players move around from team to team, there's no way to keep secrets.
@americanpatriot3874
@americanpatriot3874 4 жыл бұрын
Bob Heck lmfaoo fucktard thinks his stankees play legit 😂😂
@bobheck7303
@bobheck7303 4 жыл бұрын
@@americanpatriot3874 you can't read or think.
@karlma2618
@karlma2618 4 жыл бұрын
I much rather pitch to a hitter who is all roided up than a hitter who knows what I am about to pitch to him. This type of sign stealing cheating is just f’cked up beyond recognition.
@nathanhansen1846
@nathanhansen1846 4 жыл бұрын
figuring out signs is not cheating. it's called being smart
@andrewpestotnik5495
@andrewpestotnik5495 4 жыл бұрын
From 2nd base, yes. Using electronics to do it is illegal
@sylvialuevano1376
@sylvialuevano1376 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry Michael, cheating is cheating, and what a coincidence Alex Cora is involved in both cases!!!
@enriquemorin5569
@enriquemorin5569 4 жыл бұрын
Old baseball, we love you
@im_waffles2920
@im_waffles2920 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, weren’t the Yankees involved as well.
@amzomar1633
@amzomar1633 4 жыл бұрын
Don looks like a Bookie!😂😭✔💯
@garycotie6983
@garycotie6983 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Red Sox, your not alone
@Darbobski
@Darbobski 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Fiers is a friggin HERO.
@ryanmattox5150
@ryanmattox5150 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not different then studying NFL game film and recognizing formations
@guidoluzzi66
@guidoluzzi66 4 жыл бұрын
A pitcher doesn’t have a defense for giving up a home run. Tremendous advantage to know what pitch is coming. You can’t compare NLF defensive alignments to MLB ones. For the most part baseball players are on defense to stop balls hit to or near them. NFL players line up and try to stop plays all together
@josephgonzalez7819
@josephgonzalez7819 4 жыл бұрын
The sox manager Cora was the bench coach of the 2017 stros. Hmmmm ....
@Virtuoso191
@Virtuoso191 4 жыл бұрын
Signs are gonna be interchangeable on a game by game basis. Eventually.
@flabuzzsports7649
@flabuzzsports7649 4 жыл бұрын
Virtuoso why aren’t they now? Wouldn’t that be a better way to combat sign stealing?
@Trump-st1eg
@Trump-st1eg 4 жыл бұрын
Strip the Red Sox of their World Series and division titles.
@t206kid
@t206kid 4 жыл бұрын
You cant start doing things like that, I can then say take away the 96, 98, 99, and 00 titles from the Yankees cause the team was juiced, esp the 2000 team.
@Trump-st1eg
@Trump-st1eg 4 жыл бұрын
@@t206kid That was the steriod era before MLB began cracking down steroids around MLB. Andy Pettitte and Roger Clemens were the only two juicing and Jose Canseco. The whole league was juicing during the steroid era was it ok? No but wasn't planned out like the Red Sox and Astros did. Those are much worse than anything during the steroid era. So all of MLB was cheating during the steroid era so it was even. So no the Yankees are not getting anything stripped.
@joetheastrosfan3460
@joetheastrosfan3460 4 жыл бұрын
@Trump 2020 doesn’t take away the fact that Yankees team was juiced it doesn’t matter if it was the steroid era or not
@t206kid
@t206kid 4 жыл бұрын
@@Trump-st1eg forgot about David Justice, chuck Knoblauch, and mike stanton?
@Trump-st1eg
@Trump-st1eg 4 жыл бұрын
@@t206kid Chuck knoblauch only hit 98 home runs lifetime so it didn't make much effect you still have to hit the ball with contact. Your agument is invalid.
@3000GTStealthGTO
@3000GTStealthGTO 4 жыл бұрын
No. The commissioner told them all they can NOT use the replay room during games to do this. It’s cheating
@gr8filibuster
@gr8filibuster 4 жыл бұрын
ESPN New York doesn't think an East Coast team cheated. And the sun rose yesterday. Even listen to his pine tar example. He went to George Brett and didn't reference the example that is closer to home (Michael Pineda).
@whipmiller
@whipmiller 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with eliminating the in game video room
@brosario9480
@brosario9480 4 жыл бұрын
TAINTED 2018 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS !!! ..... Boston Red Sox!!!!
@TonyTone1
@TonyTone1 4 жыл бұрын
The only way the Bosox and Astros could really beat the Yankees is by cheating.
@tommynunez1495
@tommynunez1495 4 жыл бұрын
The video room should be locked at all times only to be used when the call is challeneged. Any team will find loops holes to their advantage. Just applied the rules and the rest will follow.
@SpangyLikesThings
@SpangyLikesThings 4 жыл бұрын
Just give the pitcher and catcher a tiny earpiece so that the manager and/or pitching coach can call the pitches. The NFL has literally been using this technology for decades now, so what's the excuse for MLB?
@bobheck7303
@bobheck7303 4 жыл бұрын
That can't work for obvious reasons. Pitcher must agree! Catcher has to know for sure!
@SpangyLikesThings
@SpangyLikesThings 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobheck7303 I'm pretty sure every team would be able to implement a system where IF the pitcher shakes off the pitch that the coach is calling, then the catcher could give a sign for a different pitch. I'm pretty sure quarterbacks in the NFL don't agree with EVERY play being called and are able to communicate to their coaches/teammates what play they want even while they're on the field. If MLB is willing to increase the amount of technology being used in the game on an annual basis, then I think they should be using that technology to actually improve the game instead of just making it so that teams can cheat and/or create a 5+ minute stoppage in play to review a call.
@bobheck7303
@bobheck7303 4 жыл бұрын
@@SpangyLikesThings Nice try. Total nonsense. You're wrong, just admit it. Have you pitched? Caught? What about the WHOLE GAME GOING ON! I wish you were right.
@SpangyLikesThings
@SpangyLikesThings 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobheck7303 Calm down. I'm not saying I'm 100% right, I'm literally just proposing solutions to the current problems going on in Major League Baseball. I'm a catcher and almost every time a pitcher shakes me off they end up giving up a hit. I would say that in 90% of cases it would be way smarter for the pitcher to just shut up and throw what they're told to throw by their manager/pitching coach. I'm not a pitcher but I HAVE pitched, so I don't see how it would be difficult to wear a tiny earpiece in order to receive instructions on what to throw. Technology has come such a long way and I'm sure MLB can figure out a device that would work for pitch selection to be an easy process without needing to go through a sequence of signs before EVERY pitch. There are tons of brilliant minds working for MLB, I'm sure they can find a solution.
@bobheck7303
@bobheck7303 4 жыл бұрын
@@SpangyLikesThings I do believe you're on to something. A means of communication without hand signals, which are easily stolen. A code system like Morse code perhaps. Manager transmits to both simultaneously. Football is quarterback only.
@bluto212
@bluto212 4 жыл бұрын
They need to ban all electronics from the dugout.
@snickidy6947
@snickidy6947 4 жыл бұрын
this is suuuuuch a thin line. i can see both sides and could probably fall either way on what the sox did. but were not in charge of what happens to these teams so we have to wait and see
@Obelisk57
@Obelisk57 4 жыл бұрын
If EVERYONE does it, short of banging the trash can, I agree, then everyone has the same advantage then it just becomes part of the winning strategy.
@collinpople1076
@collinpople1076 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with getting rid of the video rooms. Manager should just make the challenge call with his eyes and the players word.
@jameslayco9
@jameslayco9 4 жыл бұрын
San Francisco GIANTS did it the right way!! GO GIANTS!!!
@daniellarsen889
@daniellarsen889 4 жыл бұрын
Red Sox should bring back Grady Little. Any coach in mlb would have left Pedro in the game in that decade dominance.
@yarotmendoza8083
@yarotmendoza8083 4 жыл бұрын
Kay defending Sox 😱 George will fire him from the grave lol he got a great points do Astros WSC striped Red Sox also RIP. Beltran don’t get fired HO ticket for bonds and Clemens in this year selection this is a joke MLB
@rchoper21
@rchoper21 4 жыл бұрын
Require all broadcast and footage to blur out the catchers mitt when he signals otherwise if caught with non blurred footage to be immediately suspension. One other idea is to let the catcher use an electronic device so no physical signal, that might lead to hacking but just an idea.
@VenomousStare
@VenomousStare 4 жыл бұрын
Astros were worse. But both deserve to have the book thrown at them!
@joetheastrosfan3460
@joetheastrosfan3460 4 жыл бұрын
Both teams cheating were equally worse
@JoeyZero123
@JoeyZero123 4 жыл бұрын
@@joetheastrosfan3460 nag it's pretty much agreed upon that the Astros were worse. Cheating is cheating, but there's different levels to it
@canigettawhatwhat
@canigettawhatwhat 4 жыл бұрын
Michael I know you're just doing your job but I don't watch a yes network video to listen to somebody defend the red sox
@krakenmetzger
@krakenmetzger 4 жыл бұрын
I think I would stop watching baseball if the players who cheated do not recieve multi-year suspensions. They all should be banned for life.
@nathanhansen1846
@nathanhansen1846 4 жыл бұрын
micheal Kay is 100 percent correct. it's not cheating
@dalekelly7639
@dalekelly7639 4 жыл бұрын
Develop an electronic method for the catcher to signal the pitcher. Like a Fitbit wristband. Decrease some of the cheating.
@EpicConspiracy
@EpicConspiracy 4 жыл бұрын
Every astros and redsox player that used the info from tech to gain an advantage should be banned for life
@im_waffles2920
@im_waffles2920 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah no.
@CesarRamirez-hb1tt
@CesarRamirez-hb1tt 4 жыл бұрын
Omg man this means that the Dodgers were stripped of the 2017 and 2018 World Series Titles. This is upsetting.
@robertmaxwell6065
@robertmaxwell6065 4 жыл бұрын
no, it means that they played against 2 teams that cheated their way to the WS.... that means that the Dodgers should have played the Yankees twice.
@timsouthwell6844
@timsouthwell6844 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Obviously a Sox fan. Jacky
@oljimeagle6779
@oljimeagle6779 4 жыл бұрын
You gotta wonder what Beltran brought to the Yankees as a special advisor.
@johnhaggart9376
@johnhaggart9376 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a Yankees fan. ( Note: 5 major Yankee events. Not including me singing The Meet the Mets song in the Bar at George Steinbrenner's Tampa Hotel that brought out from his "Clipper" office Mr. Steinbrenner himself. We talked and he was very polite. He remembered me after the Oakland A's had left Colonie where the Yankees moved their AA affiliate ( Before later moving to Norwich CT ). I had worked for the A's. A job I got from Ricky Henderson. I met Ricky after having suffered an injury while as a member of The 82nd Airborne Division. I was asked to stay on, but it wasn't enough money to support a family. George Steinbrenner had flaws, but his genorosity in which things were made secret just as God wants. He was a good man. My money was no good the rest of the night. He even had his driver bring me to a Publix and back. His front desk person; she was extremely nice. So, more to follow...
@ANGELSNIPER117
@ANGELSNIPER117 4 жыл бұрын
During games: relaying and stealing signs on the field/dugout is fine, anywhere else should be treated seriously, if they aren't in the play area during the game they shouldn't be giving the players an edge
@bartgrovenger1869
@bartgrovenger1869 4 жыл бұрын
Cora is the common factor in both of these. Ban him for life.
@graymanmedia
@graymanmedia 4 жыл бұрын
I find this rather amusing. NFL Teams literally records game play while on the field. Yet people in the MLB are upset about the same thing. YES, recording, taking pictures, sending spies into the outfield all to catch pitcher/catcher signs happens. This is why baseball is losing fans. Because you keep telling them that using tech to do what you do anyway is bad.
@iSpitboxer
@iSpitboxer 4 жыл бұрын
Boston/New England teams always so shady.
@Yfrboy
@Yfrboy 4 жыл бұрын
Why can't they just have the guy in 2nd look at the sequence of signs, see what the pitch is, and then they know which number in the sequence is the actual sign?
@bobheck7303
@bobheck7303 4 жыл бұрын
NO SHIT EINSTEIN! GEEZUS!
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