Red VS GH4: How to make the GH4 look like the RED Epic

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@96jnb
@96jnb 7 жыл бұрын
"Use the GH4 for low light" As a GH4 owner, I can confirm that is terrible advice. Lol
@thebrothersthre3987
@thebrothersthre3987 7 жыл бұрын
Its really not bad in low light if you use the right settings. Do you disable noise reduction? I find when you have it all the way up it helps a lot too. 1000 iso seems usable if the lighting is correct.
@96jnb
@96jnb 7 жыл бұрын
theBrothersThre3 It's just impossible to shoot at a higher iso. I shoot in v-log l with a speedbooster. You can clean it up in post but theres only so much you can do.
@thebrothersthre3987
@thebrothersthre3987 7 жыл бұрын
What would you say your iso limit is?
@drewrae6192
@drewrae6192 7 жыл бұрын
Same. haha It's a great camera, but not so much for low light!
@JoaoSilva22222
@JoaoSilva22222 7 жыл бұрын
totaly agree, i am checking a Sony a6300 for low light as a B camera, cause the GH4 SUCKS in low light.
@DannyPops
@DannyPops 7 жыл бұрын
Love the awkward hand stuff. Makes it a lot more personable and funny.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
We love to have awkward times here.... it's pretty much all the time
@BigAntVideo
@BigAntVideo 8 жыл бұрын
Love it! Practical advice too - always refreshing to see people committed to getting the best and not being fanboys/girls about some camera or other.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+BigAntVideo Awesome - Glad you enjoyed!
@oluisberaldo
@oluisberaldo 8 жыл бұрын
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@asrranasrranasrra
@asrranasrranasrra 7 жыл бұрын
Luis Felipe Beraldo pensei que era o único
@kelseyopel2373
@kelseyopel2373 7 жыл бұрын
Fun video! Informative and entertaining to watch! I'm considering buying a GH4 as my first professional camera and it's cool to see the tricks you described in this video. Thanks!
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
Kelsey Opel So glad you enjoyed!
@AnimeBoyVFX
@AnimeBoyVFX 6 жыл бұрын
What should I choose for live action videos (GH4 or a7iii)??? Additional help... Al my Lens are from Canon.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 6 жыл бұрын
Hey! Well, the GH4 is a bit out dated this point. The GH5 & GH5s are amazing. With the 400mb/s recording, and beautiful colors, those are solid choices. The A7III has amazingly fast autofocus, and nice large sensor. But it's data codec is weak. Both you can buy a metabones adapter for your canon lenses. Hope this helps!
@Bubblegummonsters
@Bubblegummonsters 8 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, great video. Only just come across your channel and love your humour it really helps make what can be quite dry technical jargon more entertaining. Which is actually something you forgot to mention when you talk about things that are more important than the camera. You mention audio but neither the camera or sound will make you video more watchable if your content is crap. Keep up the good work.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+Bubblegummonsters Exactly! You're spot on :) Thanks for the kind words.
@dimal363
@dimal363 8 жыл бұрын
As a beginner, where can I read about the V-log, compression and LUTs ? I want to understand what do these words mean. Thanks
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Dima - I would try googling each keyword. But for a quick intro: LUTs: Are "color looks" put over footage, to give a quick color correction Compression: A term with how the background changes due to focal length. For simplicity, the more you "zoom" into a subject, the background will be larger V-Log: Is a "Flat" profile on the GH4 which means its a neutral look. You can get more out of color correction that way.
@dimal363
@dimal363 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the answer, I realy appreciate it! I was wondering, maybe there is an online course that you can recommend so I could learn the basics of cinematography in terms of for instance: lenses, RAW vs RGB, 4:4:4 vs 4:2:2, anamorphic vs spherical. I watched many videos on youtube, most of them are for pro users. I know I can easyly find many DSLR cinematography tutorials, and practice with DSLR camera, but I want one day rent a RED Epic or ARRI Alexa camera and really understand the settings and and the differences between them. Thanks a lot.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
Great question. Not sure where would be the best, but mzed.com has some instructional classes. I would poke around and see if anything helps. Check out Vincent Laforet blogs, he has a lot of great content (a little old, but still good). Also, Film Riot and Rocketjump are KZbin channels with a lot of education. Hope this helps.
@blchavanese
@blchavanese 8 жыл бұрын
Shot some stuff today and I used all of these techniques you suggested. Love my GH4 and the clean images it can produce.
@YungR0
@YungR0 8 жыл бұрын
Did you set the photo style to vlog?
@CinematographyDatabase
@CinematographyDatabase 8 жыл бұрын
Where is your studio?
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
We are located on Long Island!
@CinematographyDatabase
@CinematographyDatabase 8 жыл бұрын
Very cool, I was in NYC for 10 years but I'm in Boston now
@haarisarain5048
@haarisarain5048 7 жыл бұрын
Neat finding you here! Love your stuff, man!
@orange42
@orange42 8 жыл бұрын
Great watch. Love the humour left in.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+orange42 Thank you! Glad you enjoyed.
@j1jh002
@j1jh002 4 жыл бұрын
Very good video guys! I love that you guys had fun while teaching. That made the video way more interesting than one with just info or tips. Thanks! This was also very helpful btw:)
@cornergarageproductions9182
@cornergarageproductions9182 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Mentioning clean sound! Big thumbs up for that.
@IamColt13
@IamColt13 8 жыл бұрын
Holy shit! Xavier cracked me up! hahaha!
@blueridgebrothers
@blueridgebrothers 4 жыл бұрын
I had bought a couple GH4 bodies & used with Nikon lenses, but the video colors were off, and impossible to color correct. Any advice?
@joshuasirman1212
@joshuasirman1212 8 жыл бұрын
How does the GH4 4k quality look on the big screen?
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+Joshua Sirman Interesting question. On a 50 Inch Television still looks great. Would have to test on a full movie screen to find out more on that aspect.
@kalkimovie
@kalkimovie 8 жыл бұрын
Wow absolutely great channel, subscribed! Please keep the vids coming, and you're so right about the audio tip!
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+Austin Gabah Awesome! Glad to have you on board.
@kalkimovie
@kalkimovie 8 жыл бұрын
For sure!!!
@itsNadav
@itsNadav 7 жыл бұрын
Funny and informative!
@redumbrella4218
@redumbrella4218 8 жыл бұрын
Good work guys! It will be great if you would let us know what lenses you used on the GH4 test. Metabones makes two E.F. adapters for the GH4. Please let us know which one you got it. Thanks
@sosoishero
@sosoishero 8 жыл бұрын
+Red Umbrella Pretty sure it is the speedbooster.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+Red Umbrella We actually have two different ones. Each one has it's own perks, but we'd recommend the XL as it makes the lens wider, and faster than the others (www.metabones.com/products/details/MB_SPEF-m43-BT3). We also have the speed booster that we used in the shoot. But we also use the Speedbooster version in the shoot as well. For lenses - We used the Canon 24-105 F4 as well as the Canon 24-70 2.8 MK II
@funke4u
@funke4u 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Intern cracked me up! As of today would you guys recommend the GH4 over the Sony a6300?
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
We have not used that camera unfortunately - so couldn't give a good recommendation on that!
@darrylsmith3102
@darrylsmith3102 8 жыл бұрын
Very nice video "Rome by Bike." Nice Work.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! So glad you enjoyed.
@tonylouisvisionvideography3469
@tonylouisvisionvideography3469 6 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the hand grab LOL. Great video
@iAmTamLam
@iAmTamLam 8 жыл бұрын
you guys are awesome, very informative and very funny! =D
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+Tam Lam =] awesome! Glad you enjoyed
@kipling1957
@kipling1957 8 жыл бұрын
In 40 years as a photographer and videographer I have never heard shallow DOF called compression.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+kipling1957 Hey there! DOF & Compression are two different things. Compression is more related to the apparent size of the background image related to the foreground image, in relation to lens sizes. This also helps "blur out" the backgrounds. DOF is different. This site explains it well: www.slrlounge.com/lens-compression/
@kipling1957
@kipling1957 8 жыл бұрын
+Lixi Studios Ah! this is what I call a flattened perspective. Same bird, different name. Okay - thanks for the clarification.
@sunnyparisfilms5624
@sunnyparisfilms5624 7 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks guys ! Thanks , this was awesome. I just purchased the Panasonic lumix 42.5mm 1.7
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Create dope work!
@ChrisProuse
@ChrisProuse 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! Considering the price, the GH4's pretty impressive too!
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+Chris Prouse Thank you for the kind words! And yes, we agree the GH4 is amazing considering it's a fraction of the cost of most cinema cameras.
@lookingthat3855
@lookingthat3855 8 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you have watched Motion 3 by Yuri Palma, shooting come from Red and GH4 ( plus Timelapse from Nikon D7100), and teh result is outstanding
@LUPONELLASTEPPA
@LUPONELLASTEPPA 8 жыл бұрын
We know hi, His last Rome by Bike is even more impressive, totally shot with GH4
@redumbrella4218
@redumbrella4218 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply! Metabones has the Speed Booster XL 0.64 and the Speed Booster Ultra 0.71X. ( both EF to MFT) Which one did you have on the GH4? All the best,
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+Red Umbrella the XL is .64x (Making the lens wider), as well as 1 1/3 stops. The Ultra is .71x, and opens up 1 stop for the lens. We use the Xl, because it lets in more light so that would be our recommendation.
@dnawemedia
@dnawemedia 8 жыл бұрын
One question I've always had and never found an answer to is if you're still able to use the native Panasonic MFT lenses with the Metabones adaptor on the GH4.
@jonathanlegoman3378
@jonathanlegoman3378 8 жыл бұрын
The Metabones adapter adapts the camera's MFT mount to a full frame mount (Canon/Sony/Nikon). There would be no need to adapt the GH4's MFT mount to a MFT lens. Just directly attach the lens to the camera.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
Good question! The metabones adapter makes a MFT mount into an EF mount. (Or whichever one you buy). If you want to use a MFT lens, just take off the adapter, and use it as normal.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
Yes! Good explanation.
@JosephPaul4real
@JosephPaul4real 5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful guys. Great video thank you.
@kyledavis8339
@kyledavis8339 7 жыл бұрын
Great content, well shot, well informed, and funny :] "Help me"
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome - Thanks for watching Kyle :)!
@beyondtheever4291
@beyondtheever4291 8 жыл бұрын
10/10 clickbait title. 3/10 content. better luck next time brahs
@smarthalayla1549
@smarthalayla1549 8 жыл бұрын
I almost got the GH4 but when I learned about rolling shutter... Do you know any global shutter 4k camera that cost less then $1000?
@thebrothersthre3987
@thebrothersthre3987 7 жыл бұрын
You really won't find one my man. The GH4 actually has one of the best rolling shutters for any camera in its price range. Even better if you shoot at 1080p. Even RED cameras have rolling shutter though. I wouldn't stress it honestly, just use rolling shutter correction tools if you do any really fast camera movements. Maybe it bothers you more then me though.
@V3Tv
@V3Tv 8 жыл бұрын
So i'm looking at 4k mirrorless cameras as I cannot yet afford a prosumer one yet. Thought I was settled on LUMIX FZ1000 but now the LUMIX g80/85 is coming. Not sure what to get as I know next to nothing about these sort so cams. Advice ?
@drewmorg.
@drewmorg. 8 жыл бұрын
Just bought a Panasonic G7 used on craigslist for $500. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED BRUH
@V3Tv
@V3Tv 8 жыл бұрын
Why though, what advantages does it have over the GH4 or G80? I need it mainly for video, photo is just a bonus and not the main focus
@drewmorg.
@drewmorg. 8 жыл бұрын
V3TV Network You mentioned that you cannot afford a prosumer one. The GH4 is roughly $1000 used + you need to buy a lense. The G7 you can find all over for $500-600 used with kit lense which is a very highly rated kit lense. They are essentially the same camera except the GH4 has access to better color profiles like V-Log for color grading the footage better afterward. People still color grade the G7 footage and it looks amazing. Look around KZbin and see for yourself. The G7 is primarily a video camera first, stills camera second. :)
@V3Tv
@V3Tv 8 жыл бұрын
I would just get the F1000 before the G7 simply due to the larger sensor and better resolution. Spending $1000 on this camera vs $3000 on a proper prosumer 4k is still a win, but I just don't like to buy old equipment when there is newer gear out (G80/85). I just wasn't sure which direction to head. Thanks
@drewmorg.
@drewmorg. 8 жыл бұрын
V3TV Network Never heard about the FZ1000. Will need to research now, thanks :)
@MetsukiGlassesDirect
@MetsukiGlassesDirect 8 жыл бұрын
Great video.. what mic do you recommend, I do mostly outdoors with machinery running, interviews and pieces to camera?
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
Well, you would need a wireless lavalier microphone to help and try isolate the noise to just the person you are interviewing. We mostly use EW 100. There is also the Rode Link Wireless Filmmaker System which is well reviews, or the Sennheiser AVX. Stick to Rode or Sennheiser, as cheaping out with audio brands don't end well.
@MetsukiGlassesDirect
@MetsukiGlassesDirect 8 жыл бұрын
Great advice, thanks for the help! I'll go and check these out.
@moonangel96
@moonangel96 7 жыл бұрын
subscribed for the good sense of humour tbh
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome :) Thanks for sticking around!
@jeremyFIEST
@jeremyFIEST 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, Al-Man!
@abhisheksuraj
@abhisheksuraj 7 жыл бұрын
Man that hand on hand, repeat, was so funny.
@lordlightdob1509
@lordlightdob1509 4 жыл бұрын
GH4 vs canon C300 M I What do you think about this for cinematic filmmaker ?
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 4 жыл бұрын
They are both great! Overall the C300 MK I is probably a better image, but it's also much bigger. So you have to be prepared for that.
@lordlightdob1509
@lordlightdob1509 4 жыл бұрын
@@LixiStudios Oky. Thank you soooo much ❤❤❤
@Daffmeister187
@Daffmeister187 8 жыл бұрын
Question, doesn't the GH4 which is essentially a camera for photography lose dynamic range as you increase the ISO and if so, why would you shoot at the highest ISO possible?
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
Good question.... Not sure about the real world effect of ISO on dynamic range. On the GH4, when you shoot in V-Log I believe the minimum ISO is 400 actually. But it's not you should shoot with high ISO, it's just that the GH4 handles higher ISO better than the Red Epic Dragon does. What do you think?
@Daffmeister187
@Daffmeister187 8 жыл бұрын
Aye, indeed it does and I know there's a bunch of video cameras that starts at a higher ISO than normal DSLR's/mirrorless cameras. But I meant it more as a counter to 3:01 in the video where she says "I will try to shoot at the highest ISO possible before the image gets too much noise". I just don't see the benefit in that as I like to keep the ISO as low as possible to retain dynamic range. I don't have a GH4 on my hands currently, but I'd give that statement a test out of curiosity if I had.
@Daffmeister187
@Daffmeister187 8 жыл бұрын
Follow-up: These test illustrate my point well. www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/panasonic-gh4/ZGH4DR1-525.PNG (Doesn't say if it's video or stills) cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/923e5406214ec0a349a4c4ed55f7a186-650-80.jpg (RAW Image Performance) Also: www.provideocoalition.com/v-log-l-on-the-gh4-don-t-panic/
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome information! Very interesting to see... SO a few things. When we talk about High ISO on a GH4 we talk about 1600 as we find that's the usable level (which on that chart Dynamic Range is fairly consistent). The Red is only iso 800 while still being usable. As for the original sentence in the film, I think we should of rephrased. It's not that you should shoot at high iso's for no-reason. JUST that the GH4 performs better than the RED in low light situations, so you CAN properly expose your image without needing a ton of external lights as you would need with the RED. Either way, great points and information Daffmeister187!
@Daffmeister187
@Daffmeister187 8 жыл бұрын
Gotcha, when you specify what you fellas consider High ISO it became a lot more clear (I was thinking in the 64/12800-range). The GH4 sensor is remarkable at retaining base-ISO DR up to 16/3200 so I can for sure see the advantage of using it in the situation(s) you mentioned. Thanks for a constructive talk, I think I might just subscribe for the videos and how y'all engage with the community. Kudos and a soon Merry Christmas ^^
@markrobinson8254
@markrobinson8254 8 жыл бұрын
funny video and good info Voigtlander lens with GH4 make a good combination
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+Mark Robinson Thank you :) We haven't had our hands on the voigtlander lenses, but we hear great things. Have to try it soon!
@Bubblegummonsters
@Bubblegummonsters 8 жыл бұрын
+Lixi Studios Yes I have the 25mm and the quality and low light ability is excellent. Would like the whole set if I could afford them all.
@verybloom
@verybloom 8 жыл бұрын
these videos just keep getting better! When is the Lixi studios Daily Vlog launching? can you confirm if it's March 2016??
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+verybloom Thank you! We appreciate that :). Anything specifically you'd like to see?
@qweerty6030
@qweerty6030 7 жыл бұрын
So, why do you fill up the background with stuff? Feel like you don't fully explain that.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
Good question - there's two answers. One is it makes the scene look more full and visually pleasing. The other is, if there's any items with lights and you can get the boken look, it also makes the image look extra pleasing. Does that explain?
@marksawatzky5356
@marksawatzky5356 7 жыл бұрын
you guys record vlog-L internally on the Gh4 and consider it clean?
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
Cleanest? No. Do we think it adds some benefits? In the right situation, absolutely!
@marksawatzky5356
@marksawatzky5356 7 жыл бұрын
interesting
@primaveramedia021
@primaveramedia021 7 жыл бұрын
You God of videography came down on Earth to ask those mortals about vlog clean notclean internally recorded? Interesting...
@EyeInTheSkypaulmcmenamin
@EyeInTheSkypaulmcmenamin 8 жыл бұрын
Love the chemistry between you two ;-) Panasonic G7, can the V Log I think you called it, be purchased for it? I'm considering both cameras and the G7 is the front runner at the moment, thanks
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
G7X is a great camera! However, totally different than the GH4 in terms of use. However, if you do go with the G7X - The one suggestion we have is to get a new shotgun mic, with a built in flash recorder. That way you can get much better sound. I don't believe there is a vlog with the G7X, but not sure.
@OmegaMegalodon
@OmegaMegalodon 8 жыл бұрын
hahaha...last part is funny
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked!
@LeaperiteProductionsLLC
@LeaperiteProductionsLLC 8 жыл бұрын
lol.... The intern.
@LUPONELLASTEPPA
@LUPONELLASTEPPA 8 жыл бұрын
Subb. And because you are very focused, may we have your feedback on Rome by bike, Yuri Palma? According to our analysis, and having said that Ytube make a compression, that video is best GH4 video so far
@JohnPallottaStudio
@JohnPallottaStudio 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff guys and thanks. I'm new to the film making scene and would have like to see how to use the setting on the GH$ to achieve the "RED" look
@mikemcglasson1286
@mikemcglasson1286 8 жыл бұрын
Does Vlog add noise like cinestyle on Canon or Slog 3 on Sony?
@RYSEproductions
@RYSEproductions 8 жыл бұрын
Yes! And a bunch of green and purple artifacts and not to mention banding...
@mikemcglasson1286
@mikemcglasson1286 8 жыл бұрын
RYSE Thanks, thus far, I think I get the best images out of cinelike v
@LUPONELLASTEPPA
@LUPONELLASTEPPA 8 жыл бұрын
Without external recorder, yes. One of the best worldwide GH4 user, Yuri Palma ( his alst Rme by bike is, in our opinion, THE benchmark for a GH4 video), has suggested NOT to use Vlog without external recorder. However, in his last works, Rome by Bike and Portrait of a Skyrunne, he shot 8bit and result is amazing
@drewmorg.
@drewmorg. 8 жыл бұрын
What does shooting 8 bit mean?
@RYSEproductions
@RYSEproductions 8 жыл бұрын
drewmorgan basically, the lower the amount of 'bits' the more compressed your footage is. You get more artifacts like banding, and often less room to grade your footage. 10 bit is a huge improvement. Pretty much all cameras that record internally record 8 bit.
@Dilandau88
@Dilandau88 8 жыл бұрын
the gh4 looked better in this video...
@JoshuaStancea
@JoshuaStancea 8 жыл бұрын
Their lights probably don't have a good CRI score
@Thomasm-x7r
@Thomasm-x7r 7 жыл бұрын
they butchered the RED footage for the purpose of demonstration is what I reckon. RED Dragon footage is usually WAY better looking than that.
@PavlentijIvani4
@PavlentijIvani4 7 жыл бұрын
Never believe youtube quality. The comparison must be on an actual size of image (good monitor), and with a maximum bitrate, which can camera give. Not a 10 mbps on a youtube.
@manzanitarecords4047
@manzanitarecords4047 6 жыл бұрын
RED v GH4 footage with KZbin compression is more a factor of how the footage is handled in Post.
@sunlightfilms5222
@sunlightfilms5222 7 жыл бұрын
great job! thanks!
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! So glad you liked it =]
@lamarsulaka9044
@lamarsulaka9044 8 жыл бұрын
I would recommend never using 96fps on the GH4. It looks like 720 video. Drop it one step down from the max 96 and it has a much higher resolution look. This is from experience with shooting with this camera in slowmo for 2yrs.
@wessteyrn7746
@wessteyrn7746 8 жыл бұрын
+lamar sulaka I am interested in starting some slow mo videos with it as well. Which great wide angle lens would you recommend me?! If there's an option that could work without a speedbooster that would be great
@lamarsulaka9044
@lamarsulaka9044 8 жыл бұрын
I personally own and use the the Lumix 12-35mm lens and the Rokinon 7.5mm for wide angle shots. Both have a native MFT mount.
@wessteyrn7746
@wessteyrn7746 8 жыл бұрын
+lamar sulaka thank you
@LUPONELLASTEPPA
@LUPONELLASTEPPA 8 жыл бұрын
You are right BUT with a lot of postproduction you can have a nice ( check Amalfi in slow motion, Yuri Palma) result.
@thebrothersthre3987
@thebrothersthre3987 7 жыл бұрын
I've found it acceptable in decent lighting. Generally though yeah its not great quality, still its 96fps.
@mainlymusicman
@mainlymusicman 8 жыл бұрын
why do you want compression?
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+mainlymusicman Good question! Compression is a technique that allows you to make your background look larger in frame, and more dramatic. Additionally, when using a longer lens, the separation from your subject and the background will be more apparent, as your background will be more "blurred out" giving you that 'cinematic' look you get with larger sensor cameras.
@badtvmovement
@badtvmovement 7 жыл бұрын
the guy in the middle at the end of the video said help on low key. man the world we live in and no one has reported this. missing persons alert!!!!!!
@carlosparra8976
@carlosparra8976 8 жыл бұрын
Something going on between those 2. Now, to the cameras. Give me a RED.
@joshallenimages
@joshallenimages 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks!!
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@complex1942
@complex1942 8 жыл бұрын
Do you need an external recorder when shooting vlog?
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+Blah Blah Blah Nope, not at all! It's just an added Picture style in your camera, so when you change it in the menu and see your regular "Standard, Vivid, Natural" profiles you will see Vlog on the bottom of that list.
@raptorekpl
@raptorekpl 8 жыл бұрын
+Lixi Studios I call total BS on that. V-log recorded internally completely falls apart. Color banding is absolutely horrible with 8 bit 4:2:0. You NEED external recorder capable of 10 bit 4:2:2 to make it work. Otherwise better stick to Cine-D which is fine in that price range.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
raptorekpl An external recorder is of course going to give you better results - no argument from us about that. However, we've had pretty good luck with the vlog (when compared to normal picture styles).
@raptorekpl
@raptorekpl 8 жыл бұрын
Lixi Studios Well, ok. I assume it was a well lit studio enviroment. Now I dare you to try vlog on any wide gradient. If you don't have one - try the sky on a clear day. Look, I own GH4, I did my tests and I really like this camera, but there is stuff about it to be told very clear. If something is shit, we need to be real about it. Who would use an additional one f-stop when there is a huge chance that your colors are screwed beyond recovery beause internal codec couldn't handle it? Seriously guys, vlog is good. When you have atomos hooked up. Ohterwise going above cine-d is a bad idea. And no - your GH4 will not look like RED. That (just like the vlog thing) becomes clear when you move your butt from the comfort of the studio and go actually shoot stuff.
@improver1849
@improver1849 8 жыл бұрын
+raptorekpl Interesting points. What do you think of the sorta-kinda GH4 successor, the Leica SL? Much greater dynamic range. Great tonality. Still 4:2:0 internal for V-Log, as far as I know, but you can pump out 10 bit 4:2:2 to an Atomos or a Pix. However, despite the internal codec limitations, I've been impressed with the little video I've seen on KZbin and Vimeo. Leica, and/or whoever helped develop it, seems to have looked after the little details fairly well.
@PavlentijIvani4
@PavlentijIvani4 7 жыл бұрын
3:04 - highest ISO possible? I'm sorry, have you ever shot to GH4? It does noise at 200 ISO already!
@fiorefilmsrising
@fiorefilmsrising Жыл бұрын
The native ISO of the GH4 is 800. Meaning there is no noise up to 800 ISO.
@Clemodiab
@Clemodiab 8 жыл бұрын
Wtf the red full frame sensor ? really guys --'
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+Clément Lulé Whoops. You are right, we added in clarification into the video. Not 35 mm Still Frame - but equivalent to Super 35mm film
@redumbrella4218
@redumbrella4218 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@videowithdamir
@videowithdamir 8 жыл бұрын
very cool!
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@andrewbland625
@andrewbland625 7 жыл бұрын
So your number one tip to make the GH4 look like the Red is get clean audio? And only shoot closeups with the GH4? And put interesting props in the background? Why? To distract the viewer? Those - especially 2 and 3 - seem to be more like accepting shortcomings of the GH4 compared to the Red. It sounds as though you're trying to make the viewer forget/not think about the image quality. Kind of like saying, "Make a compelling, riveting story and the audience won't care what camera you shoot on."
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Andrew! Thanks for the great feedback, a few things: -We were no matter WHAT camera you use, don't get hung up on quality. It's more important to get good audio (just as a general filmmaker fact) -Due to compression utilizing long lenses, it will give you more "Bokeh" or "blurry background" to match a larger sensor size such as a red. That's why we suggest using long lenses with the GH4 for the close ups, and Wide with the Red. A wide shot on GH4 will look particularly worst on a wide shot then a RED. It's just how to maximize the smaller sensor size. -For interesting props, it's again to help fill the background and enhance that "blurry" full look. Especially shooting on a wide open aperture on the GH4, it'll fill the background more. If your shooting against a wall, it'll look a lot more "flat" on the GH4 then Red. We do always think make a compelling, riveting story is the best choice, but no that's not what we're saying. It's if you have a GH4, and you want to match the look of bigger sensor cameras, these are a few tips. Does these explain our thought process? Thanks for taking the time to watch, and provide feedback!
@andrewbland625
@andrewbland625 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I understand your thought process, but it still seems that these techniques are work-arounds to deal with the GH4's inferiority compared to the Red.
@joshmvfx
@joshmvfx 7 жыл бұрын
"increase compression" I would have to say personally you shouldn't go over 60mm really. The human eye sees about 40mm compression, while the field of view of 23mm. So I say don't go too much over, as it is un- natural.
@quickpickle
@quickpickle 8 жыл бұрын
I dont understand why use the gh4 for low light? Supposedly it isnt that great for that.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
Well, cameras like The A7S & A7SII are both far superior at low light than the gh4. However the Red is not good at low light at all so the GH4 is even better. Additionally the metabones adapter opens the lens up additional stops allowing more light in.
@DysnomiaFilms
@DysnomiaFilms 8 жыл бұрын
This just told me how to shoot decent video on a GH4, the closest thing about how to emulate the RED look was the V-Log tip.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+DysnomiaFilms Awesome! Excited to see what you can do with it.
@DysnomiaFilms
@DysnomiaFilms 8 жыл бұрын
+Lixi Studios what I'm saying is that the content doesn't really do much for the title apart from saying to get V-log to get closer to the dynamic range. If you need more shallow depth of field, get a lens with a wider aperture. I doubt everyone who wants t heir gh4 video to have shallow depth of field wants to shoot everything in telephoto closeup. The things that really differentiate a camera like the red epic from a gh4 are compression, colour depth, grading, noise profile, detail etc. which are all not addressed here. I just think the whole concept surrounding the tips here, which are decent enough on their own, is highly misleading.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+DysnomiaFilms Very valid feedback. Never mean to be misleading - apologize about that. For depth of field, we did recommend the metabones (which helps open up the lens) and separation of the background which does help. You are totally right about the telephoto lens on the field, but it is a tool that can come in handy at certain times. Thank you SO much for the feedback! Please always let us know what you think or if you ever have ideas :) it's extremely valuable.
@raptorekpl
@raptorekpl 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah. V-log smashed down with internal codec doing 4:2:0 in 8bit. Good luck with that. They have no clue what they are talking about.
@lookingthat3855
@lookingthat3855 8 жыл бұрын
Around our area we have Yuri Palma, a real Master in GH4 usage ( he even found new techniques). He says, and show why, Vlog is not a choice in case of no external record. Mainly, due to color grade post. Without a deep color grade, Vlog can be used in certain conditions vs Cinelike D, but Palma ( see his works, outstandings. Rome in 4K and Moiton Vol. 4. Out of this planet...) like to do huge color grade, and with Vlog he says that raise too many artefacts
@MuhammadRifana
@MuhammadRifana 8 жыл бұрын
subscribed.. very funny
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you on board!
@LYRICS_Mauricio_Rico
@LYRICS_Mauricio_Rico 5 жыл бұрын
I just knew they had a little crush. He didn't touch her hand by case. His heart 💞 said so. Kkkkkkkk. Just kidding
@iangathura3516
@iangathura3516 7 жыл бұрын
hahah the shirt !!
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
Ian Gathura :p! Sometimes we make costume mistakes ;)
@Jazzmarcel
@Jazzmarcel 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent!.......two thumbs
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+carl marcelin Both thumbs?! Nice!
@Jazzmarcel
@Jazzmarcel 8 жыл бұрын
With all the product review videos very few really give you something you can really learn.....
@shadrachpatrick3839
@shadrachpatrick3839 8 жыл бұрын
I love this!
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+Shadrach Patricks Awesome :)!
@Thomasm-x7r
@Thomasm-x7r 7 жыл бұрын
Getting good audio is as important as getting good video, don't BULLSHIT people into thinking otherwise, also camera and lens do matter ALOT, you don't need better audio than video, just both correctly. Getting good audio is not a factor to match RED footage that's why the audio and camera department are SEPARATED. The GH4 is decent micro 4/3 camera but 6K is way cleaner in low light than whatever the GH4 does even if it can get higher iso.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas! Thanks for the thoughtful response and discussion. Though we respectfully disagree with you: -As far as low light sensitivity the RED is pretty horrible. Even at 6K the image becomes degraded very quickly. If it's a low light situation, the GH4 does hold up better at higher ISO's (To a point of course). -As far as 'camera and lens matter a lot,' that's a difficult subject to tackle. We standby our thought that people get too hyped from the latest and greatest cameras. You'd be shocked at how many times we've cut together footage from the RX100 V with a RED and nobody can tell. Not saying great tools can't help you, but shooting at 6K doesn't make a story successful or not. It just doesn't. Cameras today are all so amazing for very low price, it's not worth it to spend your budget on more than you can afford. Audio however, can make the experience so far superior for the viewer. I'd much, much prefer good audio and an iPhone camera, then a RED with no audio. Thank you again though for providing thoughtful feedback! It really is much appreciated.
@yashwinning
@yashwinning 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like the title was kind of clickbaity since you didn't really show us how to make the GH4 look like the RED Epic or you didn't go in depth with any of the explanations which should've been a must, but I was still entertained by the video. But next time do go in depth with your stuff otherwise none of the tips really matter.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry we didn't go into more detail. Glad you enjoyed however!
@2wenty4frames
@2wenty4frames 8 жыл бұрын
The notion that shallow focus is inherently cinematic bugs the ever-living shit outta me, some of the most cinematic shots and beloved movies and well-known directors made constant and vivid use of deep focus camera work...
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+2wenty4frames You are right, that is not inherently cinematic. Just as some locked off camera work, where inside the frame actors are moving around, are some of the most dynamic scenes. But it is nice as a tool to have - when needed - to replicate that shallow look.
@HybridFault
@HybridFault 8 жыл бұрын
AAwesome
@bryankeller3492
@bryankeller3492 7 жыл бұрын
Obviously, there is HUGE price difference between the RED and the GH4 BUT the GH4 IS definately usable. That being said, how about comparing the Red to an APS-C OR FUll-Frame "Sony "A" series camera?. The Red is also built to withstand everyday, ALL DAY use and abuse. The GH4 has got a gasket that keeps the rain out. From what I've seen, the MUCH cheaper Lumix G7 actually can beat the 4 times as expensive GH4 in ALOT of categroies if all you need is a lite-weight camera "once in awhile". I hear there are some consistency problems over time with the G7 in 4k however BUT for less than 500 hux, I mean, it works.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
Bryan Keller All great points! We did this comparison a while back so that was when the GH4 was pretty popular. As for other cameras, it's an amazing time to be a filmmaker. Really it's only when you pushing these cameras really hard (Lots of dynamic range, slow motion, etc.) that you notice the difference.
@xtreammedia1610
@xtreammedia1610 7 жыл бұрын
Cinelike D?
@drewrae6192
@drewrae6192 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think I agree on everything you said, but good job!
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feed back! Glad you watched.
@lairtongomes1849
@lairtongomes1849 8 жыл бұрын
like for the music hahaha
@alriverald
@alriverald 4 жыл бұрын
The word is farther, not further.
@thedannydshow9726
@thedannydshow9726 8 жыл бұрын
Why not>?
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
Why not, what?
@ErickGouma
@ErickGouma 8 жыл бұрын
AWESOME!!!!
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
+Erick Gouma Wooo thank you!
@chumcool
@chumcool 5 жыл бұрын
People need to take a giant step back when it comes to this "LOW LIGHT" filming business. Were talking digital video here not film. With that said, even film has its limitations as does the human eye. No light = No image, period. I am baffled at what it is with this topic. What exactly is it that people need to film in darkness? WHY?? Unless you're into surveillance, There is no point. Somewhere along the line this has become a phenomenal obsession that has gone off the rails. Say we finally do one day have the availability of a consumer or pro-sumer camera that can film a perfect noiseless image in a situation with low to no light. I bet the bank that people will then start to bitch about why we cant see through objects. The fact of the matter is this, one needs to light properly with post in mind. No one wants to look at something they cant see let alone film something that might as well not even be there. The film "Nosferatu" was filmed with a camera and a film stock that needed extreme exposures in normal conditions under lights that actually burned peoples skin. The jumpy look of the film was because people had to move slowly in order to be properly exposed whilst the camera operator slowly hand cranked the camera to the beat of a slow opera song. Yet, the movie portrays darkness better than any film to date with the exception of the opening scene of David Finchers ZODIAC, which BTW is hot with light but one never notices. Anyway, while most everyone here are stuck in place chasing a dragon, I got a fuckin movie to make.
@andrewmccarty
@andrewmccarty 4 жыл бұрын
Actually I think people are more concerned with being able to get usable footage in situations that are difficult to light or when you have no control over the light (i.e. weddings, documentary, guerilla style filmmaking, etc.) Especially for those with ultra low budget who can't rent an HMI or something lol.
@asrranasrranasrra
@asrranasrranasrra 7 жыл бұрын
Uhull kk nessa vida a muitos sonhos...
@rayrakis5235
@rayrakis5235 3 жыл бұрын
I still love my gh4
@carloswaller
@carloswaller 8 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@Gunarman
@Gunarman 5 жыл бұрын
Well, she is cute though
@5ammo
@5ammo 8 жыл бұрын
Lol! Nice video. thanks!
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad you enjoyed :)
@polodanni5145
@polodanni5145 7 жыл бұрын
FRIEND ZONED IMMEDIATELY!!!
@szymonsmykaa4038
@szymonsmykaa4038 8 жыл бұрын
GH4 won! :D
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
Haha yes!
@lightningbolt4451
@lightningbolt4451 6 жыл бұрын
v log will not increase dr
@MikeLao2G
@MikeLao2G 7 жыл бұрын
Lol
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
=]!
@MikeLao2G
@MikeLao2G 7 жыл бұрын
well done vid, btw
@bradtrounson
@bradtrounson 7 жыл бұрын
Loved it! Subscribe
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Welcome aboard!
@Despolitizado
@Despolitizado 8 жыл бұрын
really? red vs gh4? red is the very very very bast
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 8 жыл бұрын
RED is one of the best. But the GH4 is a fantastic camera as well!
@Despolitizado
@Despolitizado 8 жыл бұрын
Lixi Studios lie lie
@MrJayclas
@MrJayclas 4 жыл бұрын
Get a room you two😅 or you three😬
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 4 жыл бұрын
Haha
@VeioMendigo
@VeioMendigo 7 жыл бұрын
Musica brasileira kk
@oldchicken2
@oldchicken2 7 жыл бұрын
Please kiss.
@LixiStudios
@LixiStudios 7 жыл бұрын
:-*
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