Red Wing Classic Moc 1907 vs White's Boots Perry Moc Toe / Who Will Reign Supreme?!

[@paulschneider6202]

Solid review! I own them both and would agree on every point. I felt like the Whites Perry is slightly clunkier, slightly more durable, better for actual blue collar work. Red wings are slightly better as a casual, jeans boot. Spot on!

[@rockymtnstyle]

Thx sir! I appreciate the kindness!

[@ahill209]

You should have mentioned that the Red Wing 1907's are built on a different last than the other Moc Toes. That's why they are a bit wider. I have a pair of the 1907's. I had the store replace the two upper sets of eyelets with speed laces and that helps quite a bit when putting them on and taking them off. Also, the original design of the RW Moc Toe was for sports people - primarily hunters. It's grown into a lifestyle boot for most owners, but it's a very popular work shoe for construction and for work where you don't need steel toes and you're walking or standing on hard surfaces all day long.

[@rockymtnstyle]

Good suggestion. Probably should have mentioned, but since I wasn't comparing those aspects intra-RW, I don't even think I thought about it. Good info on the history too. Much appreciated.

[@deeleypdx]

Have both and found the White's to be a little more comfortable.

[@rockymtnstyle]

Nice, thanks for sharing! I could see with a lot more wear that the White's might have a chance to overtake the 1907s for me. They really are both quite good for me.

[@Eric-lo7tc]

A bit more comfortable b/c more supple, but probably a bit less durable as well.

[@HeritageCast]

Love this style. Do more documentary style videos on the PNW and other brands.. Great way to exapand beyond reviews and set yourself apart...

[@rockymtnstyle]

Thx for the comment and idea! I've been toying with the idea of doing deep dives on brands for awhile... Maybe I'll try a few see how folks like em!

[@Inbal_Feuchtwanger]

Im on the Whites Perry about 2 weeks in. First I have the distressed brown and the leather is absolutely gorgeous, looks so much better in person than in pictures. For me its about the same fit as a red wing as well. Ive had no issues with the heel counter as commonly seen, but the top right foot has had rubbing with the tongue which Im solving with mole skin right now. I walk about 15 miles on a normal day of work, so its been much less punishing that I expected so far, likely due to getting lucky on the fit. With red wings Ive tried the 608s and they were much more punishing on my feet the first weeks, but they fit like a glove after break in . Soles only made it to 6 months on those and I dont have much more hope for these vibram cristy crepes on the Whites, but time will tell with that. At least it will be easier to just resole these Whites than with the Red wing Supersole's

[@rockymtnstyle]

Wow, 15 miles a day? That seems like a lot to me! Glad you like your White's, too! Thx for the comment!

[@motov8-garage832]

I wanted the 6" redwing classic mocktoe boots in that copper color so bad. Tryed them on and they were way way to tight for me, the redwing guy told us that they dont make different widths in the heritage line.. if they wernt so expensive i woulda tryed them to see if theyed stretch a good bit but that probably woulda been a bad idea..😅 I ended up getting the thorogood equivalent in the same size 12d and like them alot sofar. ..I do still have 59 more days to test them out in the house.. we'll see how it goes (i have medical orothotics to deal with) makes shoes shopping complicated..

[@rockymtnstyle]

Thanks for sharing. I bet it's tough when you have all those extra variables!

[@austinjohnson3977]

I have the 1907’s and I have wide feet, they did stretch out nicely and they fit me way better than the iron rangers do. I love the iron rangers but I can’t wear them too long because they’re just too narrow

[@aaronlee1893]

Do the whites perry boots already have a nice cushion insole? I found that most red wings dont come with one

[@rockymtnstyle]

Yep they do. It's removable too if you want to put your own in, or replace it easily in the future.

[@Doomzday831]

What the difference between the white’s Perry and select Perry?

[@rockymtnstyle]

Nicer upper leather (Seidel double shot) and "nicer components" according to the website.

[@marcoseropian6347]

Now if you got the perry’s in the distress color, more like the rough and tuff to give you that “feel”, would that change your mind? Which is more comfortable?

[@rockymtnstyle]

That's a great question and something I actually thought about after. MAYBE... that's as best as I can say. Hah! Although, since the video the Red Dog has grown on me and I really like it. But I think the Red Wings, for me, are still a little more comfortable so they'd still get the nod.

[@american1911]

Which one is more comfortable after 8+ hours on your feet?

[@rockymtnstyle]

Good question. And honestly, they are about even. It's remarkable how similar feeling they are. The Whites conform a little better around the ankle, so maybe they are slightly more comfy while actively walking, but otherwise, they're so close to me it's a toss up. Although I have worn the Red Wings much more just because I've had them longer... so they are more broken in. Could be if the Whites end up getitng more comfy with time they might be better at the same number of wears, but that's just speculation.

[@celf1331]

what shoes are you wearing? Looks Great on Denim

[@rockymtnstyle]

Thanks! Those are the Grant Stone Coast Sneaker in Saddle Tan Minerva.

[@curtshelp6170]

I find the Whites more comfortable than Redwings and the Perry select offers more premium leathers and construction for a very competitive price with Redwing that you might consider. I'm watching this 11 months in the future so I have the opportunity to be excited about the Origin Moc Toe but it has to wait its turn until after I try the Origin hyoid boot with the canvas inserts, Living in the Arizona desert makes the additional breathability a greater draw than another Moc toe as I have about 6 pairs of those from Whites, Danner and Thorogood.

[@rockymtnstyle]

Thanks for the perspective! I'm lucky (maybe) that breathability is never a concern in Colorado!

[@curtshelp6170]

I prefer a higher gusset because no matter how much I baby my boots in the beginning they eventually end up in the field and dirt, rocks and other debris finds its way into the boot far easier with a lower gusset.

[@rockymtnstyle]

Good point. If you are using them as intended a higher gusset is a must!

[@coopercritchfield9016]

My exact problem working in wet concrete and dirt with my danner bull runs. I agree.

[@AJ-by6pd]

Do you have any red wings moc toes on the 23 last?

[@rockymtnstyle]

I don't. This is my only Red Wing product, believe it or not.

[@AJ-by6pd]

Oh ok. I would have thought you would have had an Iron Ranger or a Blacksmith boot too. The only thing I wish red wing had on their moc toes is speed hooks.

[@AJ-by6pd]

With you having a relationship with Huckberry, could they send those Astorflex Chelsea Boots to review? I’m curious if they are any good.

[@adamp5951]

I really want to love my 1907s, but my foot does not work with it. The Red Wing moc toes have too much instep for me. The eyelets are basically touching when I tighten the boot. The 8 last fits me much better.

[@rockymtnstyle]

That's a real shame. We all have that one that doesn't work! Thx for sharing, brother!

[@megasoid]

Hey....thanks for a spot about Red Wing! What a storied brand and your historical background is much appreciated. Red Wing as a store in Fairfax, VA not far from where I live. May have to go out and browse to see what's new as I haven't been there in about a year (bought a pair of boots of course). You're right about Danner. I'm a fan, but Red Wing is miles away and they know their audience.

[@rockymtnstyle]

My pleasure, as always! Yes- you should go! Life is short!

[@somersthesunless9091]

The 1907 is a fake storm welt and that’s why I won’t touch them. I don’t like being deceived. Also the leather is thinner on the Red Wing and it lacks a proper shank. To me the Red Wing is a casual boot and the Perry is a real work boot that can be worn casually.

[@rockymtnstyle]

I have real waterproof boots when the time calls. I don't mind too much if one person's "storm" welt isn't stormy enough. Hah! :) Appreciate your perspective, though!

[@395glen]

@@rockymtnstylethe point he was trying to make is that it is deceiving. The 875 don’t have a storm welt just a regular Goodyear welt unlike this 1907 that is trying to be deceiving. The 1907 isn’t the classic Moc which is why it isn’t part of the color selection that you pulled up.

[@commonmancrypto1648]

I see where you're coming from, but I think it is forgivable because Red Wing does not make any outrageous claims are draw attention to the extra stitch. It's a decorative. It gives the 1907 a unique look...... I suppose you could argue that it's misleading, but I don't see it as deliberately deceitful. You make valid points. In my opinion, the whites are a higher quality boot, but the Red Wings are better looking and more stylish. Both are very nice and it's just a matter of taste

[@waluigiinsmashbros]

My White's perry selects came with a big, stained blotch right in the middle of the toe box. They look horrendous. Quality control is garbage. Waiting 10 weeks for disappointment is guaranteed. They don't even bother entering a tracking number so hope for the best. Go with the Red Wings

[@rockymtnstyle]

Ouch! That sucks, bro. Really sorry to hear it. I'd have been pissed too!

[@franzv3172]

I just ordered some White’s Perry and got a tracking number as soon as it was shipped. I did have to copy and paste it because it was emailed as a pdf. I opted for the cheapest ground shipping too.

[@DS-jh1bp]

It makes it the 1907 because it has a different last (shoe shape) to the 875.

[@rockymtnstyle]

Sure... But each type of leather still has an exclusive number designation. So it's just semantics. Even if it used the same last they'd have to call it something other than an 875 because that's Oro Legacy.

[@DS-jh1bp]

@@rockymtnstyle Very true.

[@Eric-lo7tc]

The 1907 is built on a different last and has a Norwegian welt, unlike all other 6" RW moc toe boots mentioned here. It fits differently than the other RW mocs too. It is a narrower fitting boot. I wear a 10.5 D in RW Heritage mocs, but the 1907 is much too narrow for me in that size. I didn't like the 1907 fit so didn't buy it. You'll also notice the 1907 is a few bucks more than the other RW 6" mocs, presumably because of the double-sewn welt.

[@HeritageCast]

yeah if you want sleek go with a real dress boot from Italy or UK. Those slim dress lats from Italy, or sleek country brogue dress bots from Trickers and Loake really meet you both ways.

[@rockymtnstyle]

I think I'd probably be in on Trickers or Loake before an Italian dress boot! I feel like I'm a bit too stocky to pull off the really sleek Italian look!

[@royogrady9179]

I have one pair of each of these - the 1907 is just a little wider than the Perry and fits me better (both are 8.5D). The Perry is in Crazy Cow leather, which looks great, but if I was limited to one, I would go with the 1907.

[@rockymtnstyle]

Thx for sharing, brother! Lots of folks loving their 1907s!

[@DenyTheZeitgeist]

I’ve eyed a pair of Perry’s for a while now. I was waiting for my Thorogoods to give out. But I went into the Red Wing store for soap, came out with boots. The rep took my measurements from the machine and hit the nail on the head. 1907’s with slim fit insoles. Looks like it’ll be another 6 years before I get the Whites. I’ll still be looking into some Perry’s but the fit of the 1907’s is immaculate and they’re not even broken in yet.

[@rockymtnstyle]

Hard to go wrong with the 1907s! Thanks for sharing, Deny!

[@francisco1324]

i pick the 1907 over the perry's

[@rockymtnstyle]

Nice!!

[@ricardovarajr]

Bought my first 2 pairs of casual boots a few weeks ago. I’m an electrician and wear Irish setters for work. Size 10 comfortable. With the red wing 8138 I went with a 9E2 since I have a narrow foot and they fit perfectly with insoles. Next boot was the red wing 1907 and I got the same size. A size 9E2 and they fit perfect with the insoles they come with. Again I have a really narrow foot so sizing down a whole size worked for me.

[@rockymtnstyle]

I have some Irish Setter hunting boots. Really nice! And what great choices. I do love the 8138 and the 1907 (of course). Thanks for sharing the sizing info, too. People read these comments and you never know when it'll help out a fellow boot wearer! Thanks man!!

[@ricardovarajr]

@@rockymtnstyle no problem bro! Thanks for the video. Wish I watched before hand, but luckily red wing sizes you up and I tried on multiple sizes to get the perfect fit. I’m in SoCal area.

[@ddtechie]

Big fan of red wings myself. Never had Whites, they do look quite nice. Had a pair of Thorogoods, safety non Moc toe style. With the Briar Oil Slick leather color. I never got as many compliments on the look of that work boot compared all my other work boots.

[@rockymtnstyle]

Hey man! Thanks for sharing your story. I agree I do appreciate the Thorogood look. To be honest, will probably eventually pick up a pair to review!

[@まめだ-q2q]

WHITE'Sも、白底出してきたね…！😮

[@fjpcisco]

Jk300

[@rockymtnstyle]

Don't appear to be moc toes...

[@YoloSwegs]

I have the Weekender chukka, it's really nice

[@rockymtnstyle]

It's a cool one! I could see myself getting into one down the road...

[@daviddorame5400]

Gusseted tongue is better, better looking stitching and better looking leather as you mentioned, I agree 1907

[@rockymtnstyle]

Yessir!!

[@Slash4]

The color does NOT make it a 1907 , 1907’s are last 45 has a footbed and a Norwegian style welt #fail

[@rockymtnstyle]

You sound like you know what you're talking about, so I won't argue the technicality of your statement. However, can you provide me an example of the 1907 that isn't in Copper R&T leather? Perhaps before I was into boots they did the 1907 in other leathers, but as of now, they don't... so the 1907 is the Copper R&T 6" Moc Toe...

[@Slash4]

@@rockymtnstyle all I’m saying is that the 1907 is a completely different boot it’s not just the leather that makes it differ from the 875

[@Slash4]

@@rockymtnstyle btw there’s also the 1905 , also 45 last identical to the 1907 but with different leather :)

[@rockymtnstyle]

Ahhh I see. Yes, point taken. I'll try to be more accurate with my speech next time I feature them.

[@ahill209]

@Slash4 The 1905's were a special run for their Centennial and no longer available. Same design as the 1907, but like you say, a different leather.

[@Highland_Paddy]

Pretty sure neither comes in my size.

[@Highland_Paddy]

Heritage was so they could cut corners or something? White's is more expensive than everybody, btw.

[@Highland_Paddy]

Oh yeah, RW doesn't like to offer much taller than 6" and Wh sometimes has sales but all still too big for me.

[@Highland_Paddy]

When RW says Size 7 they mean 8.5? I forget. Something like that.

[@Highland_Paddy]

That first Wh color was the only one I liked.

[@Highland_Paddy]

Overall White's better? I still don't prefer speed hooks, especially on a short boot.

[@barrywood4491]

The Fist two pair of whites orginal Perry after 40 hours of wear the right boot in both started popping. Very loud. The return dept was a little slow at first but they replaced the boots. I wanted the 2nd pair repaired I did not want to break in a third pair of boots however that was not an option Whites told me they were not repairable. After settling with Whites for my money back I went with Red Wing 1907 and that boot has been solid a little longer to break in but much better the the orginal Perry.

[@rockymtnstyle]

Hmm that sounds pretty weird! I haven't heard any popping with mine yet but I'll update here if I do. Glad to hear you like your 1907s!

[@gabepeitso5311]

Sadly I find this to be one of the only useful comments. This stye boot was originally designed for working or field use, not for colorful and hip dress up. It is truly disappointing that the few options to be had for actual American made quality work boots are now marketed to people that are more concerned about how they look while walking through a carpeted office. I worked in RW 877's 40hrs a week for over a decade as a commercial install plumber. The 877's usually last 12-18 months, resole after 12 months if the leather did not withstand any significant damage will help them to 24 months. I appreciate the review, but I would rather see a review comparison to these two brands after a year of working these boots boots in a construction setting, or any other harsh setting as these boots were actually designed for.