Zulu Shields: Learn how they were used to take on British rifles...

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@Caratacus1
@Caratacus1 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating how much meaning and symbolism there is in a cow hide shield. Thanks for the upload.
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
Yes terrific isn’t it? Ian really is an amazing and knowledgable man
@robanderson473
@robanderson473 Жыл бұрын
Plus they look really cool!
@kristiannoel4866
@kristiannoel4866 Жыл бұрын
In one of regiments I served in (26 Regiment Royal Engineers) the Zulu shield was the symbol of one of the squadrons (30 Field Squadron).
@iainsanders4775
@iainsanders4775 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if they have any war-shields with Martini-Henry bullet holes in them..😁 Number One relic!
@waldemar4149
@waldemar4149 3 ай бұрын
Конечно есть ! Ведь это война... Точно так же найдутся английские мундиры со следами копья.
@Kurt_Steiner
@Kurt_Steiner Жыл бұрын
Ian knight is the best man for the Zulu wars ...love listening to this guy proper knows he's stuff ..love to meet him and talk about the Zulu wars ...
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
Yeah he is a really great guy. He’ll be at the clash of empires in London till the end of the month if you can make it?
@MendocinoMotorenWerk
@MendocinoMotorenWerk Жыл бұрын
It is quite fascinating that the shield seems to consist only of the central stick, the cowhide and some binding straps. I would have expected something more structural to give the shield more strength, especially in lateral direction. Along the center, where the hide is tightly bound to the central stick, the shield will be quite strong; but in the lateral direction, where the shield is broadest, there's only the strength of the cowhide giving the shield its shape and providing strength. I had no idea that hide could be that strong.
@skepticalbadger
@skepticalbadger Жыл бұрын
It's a great design. Much lighter than European shields.
@Kevin-mx1vi
@Kevin-mx1vi Жыл бұрын
The Romans and other ancient peoples often made armour from boiled cowhide. When dried it becomes like a sort of stiff and fibrous sheet that can be worked almost like sheet metal and "panel beaten" to the required shape. The muscled corselet that you sometimes see Romans wearing in statues was made in this way, though it was just parade armour, made for show. In practical use, armour made from boiled hide was worn by light or medium troops, and while it wouldn't stop an arrow or a strong thrust from a sword or spear it was very resistant to a slash or cut.
@magnumxlpi
@magnumxlpi Жыл бұрын
You must be German
@Xenophaige_reads
@Xenophaige_reads Жыл бұрын
Have you ever felt a dogs rawhide chew? The cowhide will be of the thickest hide and can be 2-3+ milimetres thick, allowing it to be so rigid.
@AllisterCaine
@AllisterCaine Жыл бұрын
I make shoes... The thickest bovine leather is about 5,5mm... When tanned well you can make heels for shoes that people constantly confuse for being made out of wood.
@mjpope1012
@mjpope1012 Жыл бұрын
Good to see you here Mr Ian Knight!! Read his excellent book some time ago 'Zulu Rising' (Covers magnificently in detail the battles of iSandlwana & Rorkes Drift) The segments are well researched & proper detail given to the failure of negotiations on the lead up to war. There's a rare picture showing one of the imperial companies (24th) that perished at iSandlwana months prior to the fight. A terrific read.
@stevensass3933
@stevensass3933 2 ай бұрын
Ian Knight is brilliant!
@lokischildren8714
@lokischildren8714 Жыл бұрын
A excellent video Mr Ian knight no one expert on all thing Zulu wars and culture I could listen too Ian always on all things Zulu
@MikeBius
@MikeBius Жыл бұрын
Great to see another awesome Zulu video!
@keithagn
@keithagn Жыл бұрын
Great video and talk! Looking forward to all your new videos on the exhibition. Have fun in London, and enjoy! Wish I was there too😢
@wazzarsa
@wazzarsa Жыл бұрын
Tshaka implemented similar tactics to the Roman Legions. The patterns on the shields denoted the different regiments/Impi's. The shield covered their whole body. When in the shield, it could be used for bashing the front. It was mainly used to pry open the opponents shield just enough to drive the short stabbing spear in, twist, and out. As it was long broad blade, the damage was sufficient to mortally wound the opponent. The shield was closed, and lines moved forward.. Throwing spears were considered a waste of time, resources, and energy.. Shake changed the whole concept of tribal conflict.
@klackon1
@klackon1 Жыл бұрын
The Zulus I spoke to years ago, explained that Zulu warriors hooked the enemy's shield and pulled it away and across his body. The Zulu warriors would then stab the enemy under his unprotected left armpit. The book Shaka Zulu is a good read. He was utterly ruthless: and what he did following his mother's death was atrocious.
@123452315
@123452315 Жыл бұрын
"africa"
@NobleKorhedron
@NobleKorhedron Жыл бұрын
What did he do after his mother's death...?
@P-Alob
@P-Alob Жыл бұрын
​@@NobleKorhedrondidn't he genocide other tribes around him? I just speculate
@NobleKorhedron
@NobleKorhedron Жыл бұрын
I'm not going to speculate either way, @@P-Alob; I'm also ignorant of this. I know he was reputed to be ruthless, but I haven't really read anything recent/up-to-date about him...
@rachdarastrix5251
@rachdarastrix5251 10 ай бұрын
@@P-Alob Yes.
@jimprice6486
@jimprice6486 Жыл бұрын
I am attending the symposium on Thursday. Can't wait.
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
Great see you there
@keithagn
@keithagn Жыл бұрын
Lucky guy!
@jamesh6833
@jamesh6833 Жыл бұрын
Great interview with Ian Knight. Keep up the great content Christian.
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot
@outpostraven
@outpostraven Жыл бұрын
Marvelous history. Never knew any of this
@bazzanihw
@bazzanihw Жыл бұрын
Very good looking forward to seeing more.
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
Thanks -‘I’ll hopefully be posting another film tomorrow
@cameronsimpson-ld8nk
@cameronsimpson-ld8nk Жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always Chris
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@macdansav1546
@macdansav1546 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic display! Enjoy your time in London and please keep the reports coming!
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot will do. Just released another video now 👍🏼
@PCantwell-u3i
@PCantwell-u3i Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see this and more on Saturday!
@FranciscoPreira
@FranciscoPreira Жыл бұрын
I had planned to get to the exibition, but unfortunately that will not be possible, rotten luck. Keep sharing Chris, thanks a bundle mate.
@julieblundell7421
@julieblundell7421 Жыл бұрын
Hello Christian, great video mate, very very interesting.
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
Thanks - I'm chuffed you liked it.
@hound3000
@hound3000 Жыл бұрын
Interesting to know that colouring of the shield represents the experience of the holder.
@markdavids2511
@markdavids2511 Жыл бұрын
No leather shield will stop a .50 cal lead bullet from a martini Henry rifle with a 2 foot pig sticker on the end of it. The Zulus had built an empire using military force, the British just did exactly the same, as did the Europeans in the Americas.
@MichaelSaunders-y2m
@MichaelSaunders-y2m 4 ай бұрын
. 50 calibre?
@robertthomas3777
@robertthomas3777 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating and sophisticated. Any footage of the shields being made? Many thanks.
@welshpete12
@welshpete12 Жыл бұрын
I do not know if this is true or no. But I have read, that they the Zulu warriors were told . Bullets would bounce off their shields by their witch doctors or what ever they were called.
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
Yes I’ve read similar things. It’s certainly interesting. Ian’s book anatomy of the Zulu army covers a lot of that sort of thing 👍🏼
@ericbrown1341
@ericbrown1341 Жыл бұрын
Still a widespread belief in SA today. Google the Zulu word MUTHI in the context of crime.
@sweethomeburgy1227
@sweethomeburgy1227 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered if the Zulus could have used extra shields to stop a Marini Henry bullet. Although it would have been cumbersome to carry extra shields. They no doubt were a very brave warrior tribe.
@3vimages471
@3vimages471 Жыл бұрын
The redcoats were brave too. And massively outnumbered The Martini Henry was pretty powerful .... it would probably go through 30 sheilds lined up so not a practical plan.
@sweethomeburgy1227
@sweethomeburgy1227 Жыл бұрын
@@3vimages471 The approach to the firing line must have been brutal. The Zulus bodies were the only thing stopping the bullets.
@3vimages471
@3vimages471 Жыл бұрын
@@sweethomeburgy1227 Very true. And the redcoats knew they were in for a horrible death if they lost .... so they never stopped and fouhjt like demons,
@golden.lights.twinkle2329
@golden.lights.twinkle2329 Жыл бұрын
Brave but ruthless and merciless to their enemies.
@3vimages471
@3vimages471 Жыл бұрын
@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 Savage.
@kraaidievoel
@kraaidievoel Жыл бұрын
Good interveiw. I did not know how the white/black shield works
@ianknight2053
@ianknight2053 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Farmguy1
@Farmguy1 5 ай бұрын
That was interesting!
@gaz.v1434
@gaz.v1434 Жыл бұрын
good vid ty
@Thurnmourer
@Thurnmourer Жыл бұрын
I imagine they were used in a way that suggests they attempt to block things.
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
A lot more to it than that. Perhaps you will enjoy the film 👍🏼
@MrAllmightyCornholioz
@MrAllmightyCornholioz Ай бұрын
🎵Mighty Zulu nation They have found the perfect beat🎵
@jimohara
@jimohara Жыл бұрын
Great content 👍
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim
@jasonatkin6787
@jasonatkin6787 Жыл бұрын
What is known about the people in the Zulu culture who manufactured the shields and weapons? They clearly had to have been very skilled, and would've required a significant apprenticeship to manufacture such well made items. Were they exempt from the duties of the typical Zulu warrior, given their importance in logistically supporting the Zulu army? Could they possibly have been made by women? Such a fascinating people and history!
@anthonywest2989
@anthonywest2989 Жыл бұрын
They cut the shield from the still living animal.
@raywhitehead730
@raywhitehead730 Жыл бұрын
Bet a Martini-Henry could shoot clean through ten of those Zulu Shields.
@chandlerwhite6529
@chandlerwhite6529 Жыл бұрын
My question would be if a shield was damaged in battle would it have been patched to show the warriors experience or would it have been retired?
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
Good question
@JinKee
@JinKee Жыл бұрын
​​​@robertstallard783645 every man would have one or two personal shields. So although those personal shields weren't the size and shape of the kings shield, would your personal shield might have been in a few scraps before being completely ruined? I like the idea that every regiment of the king's shield had the same cow hide pattern on it and that your rank is shown in how much white hide is in your shield.
@rdgld2008
@rdgld2008 Жыл бұрын
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@samabrahams7687
@samabrahams7687 Жыл бұрын
The colour the distinguish the different units is a clever idea really impressive 👍
@jeffreyrobinson3555
@jeffreyrobinson3555 Жыл бұрын
Gladdus and Roman shield was used about the same way
@martinmorehouse9645
@martinmorehouse9645 Жыл бұрын
The shield lacing is very much like the modern MOLLE equipment mounting system for combat vests and packs.
@billballbuster7186
@billballbuster7186 Жыл бұрын
WTF - what equipment did the Zulu carry on their shields then ??
@martinmorehouse9645
@martinmorehouse9645 Жыл бұрын
@@billballbuster7186 Looks like they were smart enough not to carry anything on their shields.
@peetsnort
@peetsnort Жыл бұрын
I would like to see more ultra modern versions of the shield. Even if a bullet does manage to penetrate the kinetic energy of the bullet will have been reduced dramatically. The other thing is the shelter aspect. Think armour plated umbrella
@anthonywest2989
@anthonywest2989 Жыл бұрын
I have a Zulu shield three feet high from Zululand, but id love a bigger version.
@0Zolrender0
@0Zolrender0 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if the the Zulus had the tech of the ancient Greeks and made their shields. Wood with a bronze face.
@dawoodwilliams3652
@dawoodwilliams3652 Жыл бұрын
That would significantly change their combat tactics though.
@MisterLouis66
@MisterLouis66 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't think it would be worth because of their fighting style
@GRACEORT
@GRACEORT Жыл бұрын
At 5:40 Ian Knight states King Shada, not Shaka. Did he make a mistake there?
@marvwatkins7029
@marvwatkins7029 7 ай бұрын
No doubt no Zulus were attending this exhibit.
@Texian_1836
@Texian_1836 7 ай бұрын
I bought a Zulu Shield from IMA US, and it looked absolutely nothing like that. I was so disappointed
@gerardoreynaldo691
@gerardoreynaldo691 Жыл бұрын
You've got educational and nice videos on the Martini-Henry Rifle, the Zulu shields...how about a video on dumdum ammunition?
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
Hi I will look into it 👍🏼
@mjpope1012
@mjpope1012 Жыл бұрын
​@@redcoathistoryThat'd be great!!
@albertborgman859
@albertborgman859 Жыл бұрын
I would guess that Zulu skirmishers with acquired rifles were able to engage the dense British formations. Those formations necessary again at the melee weapons and shields. An British ammunition expenditure high as the shield and movement caused misses. The arrival of reinforcements would have seen British formations impaled rearward on stakes but deceased. What a sight to see the Red Pants !
@alessiodecarolis
@alessiodecarolis Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, expecially if you think that we europeans got rid of the shields at the end of 15th century, a little answer, how would 've fared a late medieval/early renaissance army against the Zulus? After all, a pike square was a tough nut to crack, and the armour would've given a strong edge against warriors almost naked .
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
That's an interesting question but I'm afraid my knowledge of medieval/early renaissance period is zero. Perhaps someone else in the comments may have thoughts?
@rachdarastrix5251
@rachdarastrix5251 10 ай бұрын
Some form of shields were actually still in use up to the 1740s. In pike and shot tactics the shields and armor of the melee units could indeed resist bullets to a point making it more likely that they can close the distance into melee. However, once guns became more accessible rather than getting shot from under shields and armor as they approach and hoping that is enough for them to survive it was more practical to fight at the same range as the guy with the 2 handed gun.
@admirekashiri9879
@admirekashiri9879 4 ай бұрын
Depends where they fight. In Europe obviously they’d lose. In Africa it would be tougher! That armor would harm instead of protect so they’d likely not use it. Plus horses etc can’t survive in some regions so horsemen knights wouldn’t be much use.
@georgegarcia1445
@georgegarcia1445 Жыл бұрын
The Zulus still lost the war.
@ianthomas739
@ianthomas739 Жыл бұрын
About as much use as a chocolate fireguard against a Martini Henry rifle. A bullet would undoubtedly pass through the shield, through the warrior, and probably the same again to whoever was behind him.
@acmelka
@acmelka Жыл бұрын
Does anyone make a good quality full sized replica?
@christopher-ke9nj
@christopher-ke9nj Жыл бұрын
Isandlawana they've got get down, or be cut down, the fire slackens, stops, then, the 1/24th get, it boy. God rest the Zulu, the British my sainted ancestors
@dantankunfiveancestorsfist
@dantankunfiveancestorsfist Жыл бұрын
I am surprise that the Zulus don't have bow and arrows,
@MrRedeyedJedi
@MrRedeyedJedi Жыл бұрын
Compared with other sheilds hundreds of years previous in other regions, its a bit rubbish lets not beat around the bush, against the much better equipped Brits it was almost useless, unless up close as he mentions. All very interesting however, how they used the colours to tell age
@marvwatkins7029
@marvwatkins7029 7 ай бұрын
Imaging devoting your whole life too one battle or one brief war.
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 7 ай бұрын
It’s amazing. I wish I had the focus and the dedication but my mind wanders too much.
@3vimages471
@3vimages471 Жыл бұрын
Close up the Zulus usually won ...... well if the Zulu got close it means the redcoat was overwhelmed by numbers and was fighting a dozen or so enemy so of course they would win.
@johnmcgarvey4758
@johnmcgarvey4758 Жыл бұрын
There is just something about a pretty girl and her falcata.😃👍
@zen4men
@zen4men Жыл бұрын
Considering that brave warriors ======================================= were so often recruited as soldiers once defeated, why were Zulus not recruited by the British?
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
It’s a fair question. I would have to find the sources to back this up but I think the politics in SA meant that they didn’t want to have too many armed black men in the country. But it certainly seems a missed opportunity.
@zen4men
@zen4men Жыл бұрын
@@redcoathistory Plenty of Blacks enlisted during the Zulu War, so clearly there was no blanket ban. Maybe there was a concern that teaching Zulus the use of modern weapons and tactics might not be a good idea? / It is a question that had never occurred to me before, but now I have thought of it, I have to wonder why the thought never arose before! / Considering the run-around that Von Lettow-Vorbeck gave Britain in WW1, I would have thought Zulus would have made good infantry? Afyer all, they had a martial tradition, endured fearsome disciplie without question, and displayed great courage in battle.
@couchcamperTM
@couchcamperTM Жыл бұрын
I wish they had won.
@lucienarcos-palma3834
@lucienarcos-palma3834 Жыл бұрын
and they ended napoleon line
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
I have a video on that - I think you'll enjoy it.
@martinriley106
@martinriley106 Жыл бұрын
Inuits not Eskimos! How insensitive!
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
?
@desthomas8970
@desthomas8970 Жыл бұрын
Soaking the shield in water did in fact give it bullet resisting properties.
@MichaelSaunders-y2m
@MichaelSaunders-y2m 4 ай бұрын
How?
@desthomas8970
@desthomas8970 4 ай бұрын
It softened the leather, absorbing the impact of the bullet.@@MichaelSaunders-y2m
@billballbuster7186
@billballbuster7186 Жыл бұрын
Its interesting that so many of these historians and military experts don't know the difference between a "Baggage Train" and an Army. At Isandlwana the Zulu's attacked the Baggage Train of one column (there were 3 Columns) of Chelmsford's Army. The Zulu did not defeat a British Army, only a small part of one.
@PaIaeoCIive1648
@PaIaeoCIive1648 Жыл бұрын
It was still a British force of around 800 and a further 400 or so armed native levies wiped out bar a few mounted men who managed to flee. It ranks alongside the Ethiopean defeat of an Italian army at Adwa in 1896 as one of the worst defeats inflicted on a colonial power.
@raywhitehead730
@raywhitehead730 Жыл бұрын
True, but Chelmsford, demolished the Zulu with very few casualties later.
@billballbuster7186
@billballbuster7186 Жыл бұрын
@@PaIaeoCIive1648 Adwa 1896 was 100,000 against 15,000 Italians. It was a more significant victory as the whole army was defeated. Ethiopia was left alone until the Italians returned in 1935. This was not the case with the ZULU, Chelmsford's Army was not defeated, it remained as a fighting force inflicting heavy casualties, defeating the Zulu several times before the final decisive battle at Ulundi only 6 months later. It should also be pointed out that the Zulu were not the peace loving society some would have us believe. They were feared as a very ruthless tribe subduing other Africans. They murdered the sick and wounded and took no prisoners.
@billballbuster7186
@billballbuster7186 Жыл бұрын
@@raywhitehead730 Its hard to name a General who has never committed an error. Chelmsford's campaign as a whole was highly successful.
@callithowiseeit5806
@callithowiseeit5806 Жыл бұрын
If only we were as interested and passionate about our own history, I suppose that's what comes with being beaten over the head with cultural guilt our entire academic lives, hey ho..
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory Жыл бұрын
erm...Perhaps you missed my other 120 videos?
@nobbytang
@nobbytang Жыл бұрын
They were crap ….look at any army in the last 2000 yrs and their shields were all of a better quality and value than these skin shields…..
@AllisterCaine
@AllisterCaine Жыл бұрын
As explained, you have to put this into context. Those shields were absolutely sufficient for the time and place. When all your enemies have wooden stabbing weapons and no metallurgy to make slashing weapons like swords, thick cowhide becomes armor.
@MisterLouis66
@MisterLouis66 Жыл бұрын
The majority of people in southern Africa had very rudimentary weapons even compared to West Africa or East Africa. Xhoisan were literally only equipped with Bows so yea it makes sense
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