Reddit Rabbit Holes Pt. 2

[@Cadaber]

Go to establishedtitles.com/CADABER and help support the channel. They are now running a massive sale, plus 10% off on any purchase with code CADABER. Thanks to Established Titles for sponsoring this video!

[@Austin53095]

So glad part 2 just dropped ! Thank you

[@WeChallenge]

Been waiting for this one, enjoyed the first part, hoping this is as good or better.

[@fidelio9301]

@Safwaan They got to get that bag right?

[@fidelio9301]

@Safwaan Is what it is. What can we do.

[@v4n1ty92]

I can change my name to "lord _____" legally without buying a plot of land that's "owned" by 50 people at the same time 🤷‍♂️ Kinda disappointing to see you take such a shady sponsor deal 😕

[@oatlord]

Man, props to you for finding actually interesting cases on RBI instead of the usual "omg guyz I heard a sound 22 years ago. Am I being human trafficed?"

[@caneyebus]

You must be new here. Welcome to to the good stuff friend, you're going to love it here.

[@OriginalDonutposse]

Omg you heard it too?

[@jenaf4208]

Yes, you are.

[@warpvector]

Well. Are you being human trafficked?

[@kingcrustytut7544]

These are some of the most covered stories on reddit LOL. Ive heard all of these before, i knew the stories based on the comments even. These arent good, this channel is starting to suck

[@skyty0]

People in the first story were really like "just move," as if... That's an easy thing to do???

[@dodgyhodgyo4]

Not easy but necessary in this case.

[@Kunfucious577]

It is. Just move. Even if it’s hard, so what. Just move.

[@straawberryfieldsforever]

@@Kunfucious577 money, finding a suitable place, the neighbourhood, moving furniture, everything.

[@kaycee5364]

She's clearly paranoid, hopefully just that & not mentally ill. Walks around her own home by herself wearing a mask, she then deals with this for supposedly a YEAR before even looking through her own apartment, alerting management OR authorities? Hearing people in apartments walking your same path isn't odd considering most units are exactly the same floor plan.. Her assuming the individual below her is "stalking" her by walking around is wild, plus if she had cameras watching her why would the individual need to walk around in tandem with the OP??

[@DeadAndAliveCat]

@@kaycee5364 Plus, her bringing race into the whole thing immediately robs her of credibility. She's either a schizo or just very paranoid and thinks Get Out was a documentary or something.

[@Human-lg8hb]

I know it’s pretty creepy but I do find it a bit funny if you started running as exercise around the apartment and she just follows you all day.

[@toshirodragon]

I'd move a comfy chair into my bathroom and just hang out there and make them sit in their bathroom all day.

[@dolph8008]

Downstairs neighbor would be delighted about that lol

[@MyPokeBox]

Who runs in an apartment for exercise? Also she is just paranoid.

[@TheRationalist.]

​@@MyPokeBoxyup an absolute lunatic but no surprise after the bleach comment. Standard progressive.

[@panagiotiszygouris]

@@MyPokeBoxI mean according to the video footage, I really don’t think she’s THAT paranoid. Imagine walking at your apartment and hearing someone from upstairs following you in every room you go.

[@jmgajda8071]

I feel so bad for u/prolapsethis- this had to be traumatizing for him, knowing that two people ended up dead despite him calling 911 and trying to get help. It's also super disturbing to hear the mother's screams and know that just 2 months later her son murdered her. Just a terrible situation all around.

[@authenticpoppy]

Right? Ultimately it's on the police, but damn. I'd feel horrible. I hope Cadaber follows up with that one when the trial comes up.

[@Supercon57]

A total failure of law enforcement

[@JK-gm6kk]

Didn't someone determine this to be one of those soap opera on TV things? Could have been another similar case, but I'm fairly certain that someone picked it up on a radio like in between stations. So not the greatest signal but someone managed yo determine the source

[@dlog]

Get driven over by u/prolapsethis please

[@wolfetteplays8894]

@@authenticpoppy the police can’t instantly teleport. The fuck did you expect?

[@Mk-1379]

I really love your channel but it would be a really big help if the videos were properly captioned. The auto generated ones have many mistakes, are delayed, and overall hard to follow. It would be a big help for hard of hearing people, like myself, to have equal access to your amazing videos!

[@evesmith4999]

Yes!! That would be great in my opinion. Sometimes subtitles make things so much easier to understand for me 😂.

[@stevesmith1810]

THIS

[@SrgAfro]

KZbin really needs to bring back community captions

[@eden.nd.]

@@illeagle9560 ... because they're hard of hearing and need the subs to know what he's saying? 🥴

[@brokenfoxproductions]

Dude I agree with this as someone who's hearing impaired but logically you can't fix the captions all the time sometimes the captions suck and you have to just kind of deal with it same thing with whenever people are voice typing I voice type all the time and end up being misheard but that's something you kind of have to deal with. Unfortunately machines are not good at recognizing human speech patterns especially with accents and things like that.

[@orbglorb-zingalorg]

Hey Cadaber, I'd be pretty careful on your sponsors. Not sure if you care at all, but there's a video by Scott Shafer detailing Established Titles and how shady and misleading they are. Many large youtubers such as SomeOrdinaryGamers and MeetKevin are now denouncing them and cutting ties with them. Good luck, love the vids.

[@agentelvis81]

KZbin is a cesspool of scam and sham advertisers, and creators are mainly selfish and don't care. The fact KZbin knowingly allows scammers is pretty sad.

[@montananerd8244]

I was pleased to see how many youtubers (that I watch) quickly cut ties and acknowledged their mistakes, and most that i follow are not huge channels with loads of sponsorship opportunities...good to see it in this niche especially, for future historians, it will be helpful to see that there were many ethical & conscientious 21st century keepers of internet history, that there are reliable investigators & dossier-gatherers. Veracity will be the biggest challenge for the historians of the early Internet.

[@deinojohnson1638]

Americans calling it a scam is hilarious. If you'd bothered to check the website you would have seen that it was being advertised as a novelty gift and even if you didn't and you thought you could buy a piece of paper that would legally make you a lord or lady then you're nothing short of an idiot. Literally everyone that has spent more than a month of their life in Europe knew that buying a 1 sqft plot of land would in no way give you a legitimate royal title. You guys just want to cry foul every time you misunderstand something and if I'm being honest it's one of the best forms of entertainment available these days. The rest of the world is laughing at you 🤷‍♂️

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

Almost every sponsor is a scam. Scamming is how companies make money these days.

[@jessicahanley5080]

I love Some Ordinary Gamers ❤

[@BakaAngel93]

Cadaber, I love your content and I stop everything to watch your new drops, but if I may offer one piece of constructive criticism: if you're reading an entire Reddit post out loud in FULL to us, there's really no need to recap it literally as soon as you're finished reading lol.

[@harlottebronte]

I agree. If he wants it might be worth putting a timestamp at the beginning of him reading the actual post that leads to the part of the video that's basically the TL;DR, and likewise putting a timestamp at the beginning of the tldr that lets everyone else skip past it. That way the people who want to hear the full post can, those who want to hear just a summary can, and nobody gets bogged down in unnceccesary repetition.

[@atthepartycheers]

I tend to agree but it is helpful sometimes if I accidentally tune out (I listen while I’m working) or if the story is written in a way that’s confusing.

[@daniethegirl029]

💯 💯

[@TroubledTrooper]

KZbinrs are paid by watch time, longer videos are better, thats why he does that.

[@ForgottenDaydreamer]

Kind of feel like it depends on the person. Personally for example, I am pretty grateful for it, especially if I don't understand what's going on the first time.

[@gbresaleking]

That moment When you have the sound turned way up listening to a creepy story and listening to a woman screaming for help then an aliexpress ad comes on ... almost had a heart attack

[@wutislifefam]

😭☠️ ikr it’s a rollercoaster of emotions

[@grymmdoll]

The whole "you never hear your downstairs neighbors" thing drives me insane. I am in a top floor apartment for that very reason but my downstairs neighbors are so fucking loud that I HAVE to stomp to get them to stop screaming at each other and slamming things at 2 in the morning. I also hear every single time they come and go, when they start cooking dinner or doing dishes. It's a nightmare. I miss when no one lived there. And yes, I can generally pinpoint where they are in the apartment because they're louder in whatever area corresponds. Idk what was going on with op, but yes, you can be heard by your upstairs neighbors.

[@dinogt8477]

grow up

[@caitlyn9972]

I literally had to move because my downstairs neighbor was so loud all night.

[@MutedGrowl]

I agree OP is a bit dramatic

[@mr.onethirtyeight5088]

Oh, it's better when you don't have to share walls with other ppl??? No shit! Buy a house then there, Ace.

[@technoratic5589]

@@mr.onethirtyeight5088 same energy as “if you’re homeless then just buy a house”

[@frankieinjapan]

That first story is so creepy. If the person has cameras, why would she follow her around parallel to her own unit? Weird as hell. I hope the girl is okay

[@dlz190]

I think the lady is just paranoid she doesn't have really any evidence it's sad to see her get to this point 😢

[@Wiickles]

Having heard the u/blueblackjupiter story a couple of times as well as lived in a number of less than pleasant apartment situations, I wonder if the upstairs neighbor was the one with the paranoia and/or mental health issues -- not an outright or intentional case of stalking, but maybe she was just retired/unemployed and the kind of bored/lonely that causes you to start drama with people. Maybe the building has odd ways of creaking that make it easier to hear the neighbors downstairs (as other commenters have mentioned, it is very much possible to hear downstairs neighbors, depending on the way the building is assembled and maintained). Maybe the upstairs neighbor was irrationally angry at what she perceived as an excess of sound coming from downstairs. Maybe it was just generalized harassment without the full-on stalking, given the distinct fact that when OP did things like turning on the shower, the upstairs neighbor would stomp around more. Sounds frustrating as hell either way, though. The bad neighbors I've had never want to talk, they just want to start fights and villainize anyone who tries to defend themselves. The other folks all moving out of the upper floor adds another level of spooky, buuut it also lends a lot of weight to the idea that the woman upstairs drives everyone else up the wall. Maybe she's just loud af and no one can stand it. Either way, fascinating case of whose-stalking-who.

[@james312]

Having had a neighbour that was like this, I can believe it too, and as much as I liked my apartment, I was relieved in a way to not have to live around that person anymore, it can be very mentally taxing and stressful with a neighbour like that, an irrationally annoying neighbour can definitely have a big effect on someone choosing to move elsewhere. Since these neighbours never technically do anything criminal, they’re free to just continue acting like that for as long as they want, and it’s often hard to prove. Who knows what was going on with OP’s case, but it’s definitely not unheard of for a neighbour to harass and pick fights with other neighbours in passive aggressive ways for no reason.

[@misseselise3864]

they stopped posting after they got confronted about a bunch of holes in their story and contradictions they made so i’m sure the whole story is BS.

[@BubsBud]

The pandemic stress likely got the best of her.

[@What_QuestionMark]

@@misseselise3864 What were the holes and contradictions ?

[@ns0557212]

​@@What_QuestionMark I think she probably just figured out the Internet can't help anymore/kept calling her nuts and she was fed up, lol and we could the sounds its not bs lol that person above was just rude or salty lol.

[@Kallls]

People really be like "simply move out" (17:43), like seriously, what reality do you live in where moving out is that simple. And besides, even if moving out was a simple thing to do, that doesn't make OP the problem for wanting to live in peace in their own home. The lack of social awareness and compassion of some people baffles me.

[@scarymonsterzz]

I know right? Even if you don't believe her saying "well you must be the problem" is rude af this lady is clearly going through something either way.

[@DBG-fh7io]

And the fact that people are shocked op never updated like I would never go back if I got shouted down by a bunch of asshole neckbeard and called crazy.

[@ghost-husband]

exactly what I was thinking. she should if she is able to but I feel like she most likely would have already done that if it was an option.

[@penskepc2374]

It's her problem though. She has a mental illness, this is pretty obvious. I find it strange Cadaber thought it had the potential to be real.

[@RlythtnigBryce]

She could of confronted her at least before making Reddit post about it

[@vibean9522]

About the first story - besides my personal opinion, i think the people telling op she was mentally ill or delusional need to be more sympathetic to her situation. Even if op was just paranoid i don’t believe she was delusional or hearing things - she literally mentioned the rise in hate crimes in her area specifically BLEACH AND ACID ATTACKS - combined with the bleach being left on her door step she is in no way the person in the wrong for being suspicious of her neighbor.

[@ABC_12367]

I agree. I'll never understand why people join Reddit only to be completely dismissive and unproductive when it comes to other users. Like don't say anything at all then! Especially that one user who accused OP of stalking her neighbor and that she should get checked into a psych ward. like bffr.

[@alicedoesntknow_]

I think maybe the person above her is a shut in with OCD who feels like they have to follow her when they hear her. As for the bleach, it could have just been the landlord or cleaning people that left it on accident. My land lord left bleach outside of my door so I immediately thought of that. I was very confused when it happened. It might not have been that neighbor though.

[@tiixj]

​@@alicedoesntknow_but OP had mentioned how she never heard anything from her downstairs neighbours

[@alfiemace4756]

@@alicedoesntknow_you think it’s more likely someone with severe ocd like that is more possible than op just lying online or just having a mental illness

[@alfiemace4756]

@@alicedoesntknow_okay never mind I’m so sorry I just got to the video part and omfg that is terrifying

[@Carrie_Ann]

I'm surprised, yet unsurprised the news didn't run op's 911 call in their story because I feel it's a big part of evidence, but also highlights a case of police neglect. If someone had just shown up to check and taken this inquiry seriously, she could have gotten help.

[@dinogt8477]

no one cares

[@no_peace]

News and cops are in league with each other

[@jamesknapp64]

That was probably day of the event and no one had put that together yet as it was a different address.

[@CrypticCrap]

I can't say that I saw it coming, but it's true that I wasn't surprised

[@deusprogrammer_thekingofspace]

You expect the police to be useful? Unless it involves harassing minorities, they don't care.

[@patsysolatzzo2962]

My heart goes out to the man who tried to help the woman being attacked. The trauma that he must brave through I cannot imagine. I hope he’s healing well and knows that he is not to blame for the sick and depraved action and inaction of others.

[@montananerd8244]

He posted here, sounds like he is coping ok & knows that he did everything he could...

[@patsysolatzzo2962]

@@montananerd8244 I’m glad to hear

[@barbarossa1780]

Trauma? 😂 He heard some stuff and called. After that, it’s pretty much on the cops and they dropped the ball…..as always.

[@patsysolatzzo2962]

@@barbarossa1780 “hearing some stuff” is just your way of minimizing a murder being witnessed. And that’s pretty alarming but I’m not a therapist. Yes the police’s inaction is to blame but to be a helpless bystander is traumatizing.

[@barbarossa1780]

@@patsysolatzzo2962 Who cares??? I got stuff to do and there’s two sides to every story. Most of this world’s problems stem from people like you sticking their nose where it doesn’t belong. I’ll take care of my family, you take care of yours and we’ll all be fine

[@docniner]

Where I'm from, there's a french TV show about nightmare tenants and this case happened to a landlord who actually lived above a tenant and it was indeed a mental break that had caused the tenant to believe she was being followed by the landlord and it turned semi-violent. Very curious that this case is so similar.

[@sweetyft]

Julien Courbet?

[@taylorm1965]

The thing that stood out to me in this case is that people tried to talk to the neighbor but she didn’t say much, nobody really sees her, and most of the people on her floor have moved out. Your story makes a lot of sense however it seems like there’s something off about the neighbor

[@adultcool2395]

First story made me think the upstairs neighbour might have a secret pet or something? Especially if the landlord's claims of not letting maintenance workers into the apartment are true, since she wouldn't want to get kicked out if pets aren't allowed. SHE might not always be home, but a big, bored dog in a small apartment might be pacing around. If not, in my opinion it has to be some structural problem with the building. The fact that the "stomping" gets louder when she's taking a shower, using the bathroom, doing her dishes, etc. makes it seem like the pipes are reverberating or something. Those don't sound like footsteps to me, they happen too infrequently. I think OP got herself freaked out.

[@jamesknapp64]

Yeah take could very well be it.

[@lollertoaster]

At first I was considering that it might be some structural problem that makes all subsequent footsteps louder, making it sound like someone is always hovering over you, even as they are in reality leaving a room. But that didn't make sense to me. Reverberating pipes would perfectly explain how that could happen. The upstairs neighbor might be in the kitchen making a cup of tee but the OP hears incrementally louder thumps over head and feels like she is being followed.

[@cecilross2848]

That would also explain how the "upstairs neighbor" could hear them, dogs (and cats) have great hearing. AND why the neighbor got mad when OP confronted them. The only thing that doesn't suit that is the bleach, but it's also possible that was a separate incident with a different neighbor being a racist asshat.

[@KrinchiD]

Very good point about a secret pet. Also, if the upstairs neighbor "never" goes out, how does she eat? How does she get toilet paper, etc. How would OP know that the neighbor never goes out, because the neighbor could go out and come back while OP is away.

[@anti_fragile]

@@KrinchiD The first point doesn't make much sense , you've been able to get groceries delivered to your door for at least a decade now. But I agree with your second point. Unless OP also never goes out , or seldomly goes out , they wouldn't know that the neighbor never leaves

[@ajamalaysiavar5540]

I like how they suggested moving out. Like she never thought of that. Or any of the ppl answering on Reddit. I hate it when ppl get all hoity toity and ain't talking about shit.

[@jothyeen]

Plus moving out isn't always an option for someone, depending on their situation.

[@giorgiofenu5563]

Just stop being poor - home edition

[@soapythecleaningclown5055]

It somewhat has the same energy as “if you’re homeless, just buy a house, duh”

[@HooLeePhucingSheet]

That's Reddit.

[@malik87breaker]

@@HooLeePhucingSheet *internet

[@Tinyflower1]

the thing about the first story, I would have left an audio recorder or camera running while out and about to see if the noise is still there. to rule out that it's just the neighbour going about their day and it just seeming like they follow. because if you are not there and the noise is still there, then you can rule out being followed. if the noise really only happens when you are home, then you can start being concerned

[@AmoralTom]

Shame the OP was a black female looking to be a victim for clout.

[@vampire9545]

That would just prove the neighbor moves more

[@kohtas]

Just a note from my personal experience regarding the first rabbit hole, you can absolutely hear people who live below you depending on the structure of the apartment you live in. I've lived in at least 3 places in the past where I could easily hear my downstairs neighbor shuffling around even just faintly. It was never all the time but it would have been pretty easy to tell which area of the apartment they were in. Even the townhouse I live in now I can hear my young nieces moving around downstairs all the time and they have pretty light footsteps and I'm usually listening to something like I am now. I can hear them from the other side of the house at times, it just depends on how a place is built. People being so certain that you can "NEVER" hear the people who live below you is what I think derailed OP's post the most. That being said it's my personal opinion that she was just being a bit paranoid and her neighbor was probably just someone who moves around a lot in their dwelling, I tend to do the same. I fidget a lot and am constantly getting up for one thing or another. If someone was so inclined and lived below me I'm sure that could be mistaken for stalking just the same. The mind plays tricks on us all the time, especially when we live alone and when in a new place it can get out of hand pretty easily. For a long time I though my neighbor across the street would stare up at me in my window all the time at night while outside smoking, come to find out when I awkwardly asked him why he always looked up towards my window at night he explained he wasn't and that he just liked to watch the moon while he had his smoke outside and the moon falls just over my window after around 8pm until about 10pm every night. It was easy for me to understand because I do the same in the morning when having my coffee and a smoke because the sun comes up just over his house and if he was a nervous weirdo like myself he could assume I was a stalker watching him.

[@materhead5051]

TL;DR

[@kohtas]

@@materhead5051 me am sorry read r hard 4 u.

[@Chikitew]

Yeah, the commenter saying that you “can’t hear downstairs neighbors” is severely misinformed. I hear my downstairs neighbors all the time. Do I know exactly what room they’re in? No, but I can hear them often.

[@wolfetteplays8894]

Nah, I clearly hear the footsteps. She probably knows she’s being recorded too and is trying to keep quiet

[@kohtas]

@@wolfetteplays8894 She probably has a journal too where she keeps track of which room she goes to every time of the day and keeps track of how many times she uses the bathroom, and probably even keeps track of how many Frosted Flakes she eats just by counting the sound of each individual flake that hit the side of the bowl. SPOOOOKY! 😂

[@jeremysmith4620]

You know it is a trustworthy story coming from someone with so bold a user name as "Prolapse This." That is one heck of a name and the least PG challenge I believe you can pose to someone in the English language.

[@no_peace]

I thought he would look and sound like an edgelord

[@mr.onethirtyeight5088]

@@no_peace - Can you help me out a bit? What exactly is an 'edgelord'? Like someone who does/says edgy things nonstop, all the time?

[@Hoshino_Channel]

@@mr.onethirtyeight5088 basically

[@MaliciousChickenAgenda]

@@mr.onethirtyeight5088 I know a moody pullet who is a lord and lives in a large house at the edge of a cliff.

[@Middle-AgedWhiteGuy]

Thank you. That's what I was going for. I'm 43 and have 3 kids, though, so not an edglord. LOL

[@ikewangen]

Great video as always! I would maybe ditch the whole recapping parts though, cuz it kinda just sounds like the same thing twice in a row.

[@coconutdelight]

YES PLEASE!

[@thousandthmoon9149]

yeah it's annoying

[@TheDivaShiba]

The last rabbit hole is one of the most interesting things ever posted to RBI in my opinion, but I've never seen it covered on KZbin before. Glad it's getting some recognition.

[@gildedpeahen876]

It was definitely a man and a woman in the water. We should be looking for a missing couple.

[@TheDivaShiba]

@@gildedpeahen876 I'm inclined to agree. I shudder to think of what they went through. :(

[@jamesknapp64]

​@@gildedpeahen876what makes you think the other was a women?

[@dankone3]

No, her therapist NEVER encouraged her to investigate more into anything, her therapist very clearly recommended a mental evaluation upon hearing about these new delusions. Why would a therapist enable and even worse, encourage mental illness or the actions that come of it?

[@verngrl]

Right? I picked up on that, too. At no point did the therapist recommend looking into it further, beyond getting a psychiatric evaluation.

[@ancientsociety79]

Yep. If you don't have a history of paranoia or delusions, if you talk with your therapist about your neighbor bothering you, 99% of therapists will advise speaking with that neighbor and discussing the issue, not "hey buddy, let's get your mental health evaluated". Sus.

[@TheVioletBunny]

The girl is clearly not of sane mind. I know someone very much like her… who thinks “the man” is out to get her and wears a mask inside her own house and car.

[@kingcrustytut7544]

its a fake storyu like hald the ones this channel covers lately

[@mookinbabysealfurmittens]

@@kingcrustytut7544 And every channel has done this one. A while ago, too.

[@ghostgirl7089]

Wow. For u/Prolapsethis’s post, the police *FAILED* so hard. So so hard. You hear the screaming in the background of the phone call and they go oh nah no need to look into it. Absolutely disgusting. They could have saved 2 lives, instead, they’re both gone. I feel bad for OP as well, I hope he doesn’t feel guilt for this….its not his fault the police didn’t come around when he actually called the police, they just decided not to come.

[@squish5299]

Police will be police 🤷‍♂️

[@Jukajobs]

yeah, it's horrible and disappointing, but not very surprising. police neglect is very common, and they have a very bad track record with domestic abuse specifically (probably related to the high number of domestic abusers who are police officers)

[@TheDavidish]

They’re good at failing

[@morphogenetic_]

The first story is terrifying to me... However I didn't really like that you repeated word for word what you had already read aloud from the reddit post, it was unnecessary and dragged on too long imo. Always love your videos! EDIT: For the first story, I'm thinking it could be the OP being paranoid as the later reddit comments explained. Maybe it's all a coincidence. But then there's the bleach. I wonder how the bleach bottle was placed: was it straight in the middle of the OP's door mat, or was it to the side as if the cleaner could have forgotten it? And personally I would definitely go upstairs ask the neighbour what her business is, preferably with a trusted friend in case she is actually nuts and tries to harm me.

[@jessica74252]

i agree! it looks like it may have been an editing mistake? or a cheap tactic to make the video longer :/ let’s hope for the first one lol

[@excke]

I skipped the whole segment because of it.

[@scottcantdance804]

I wonder if she has tried 1) turning off all lights and moving around her apartment and 2) going up and speaking to neighbor lady. Those would literally be the first two things I did. Not spending all my money to live at friends places and missing months of work.

[@therodyman700]

@@scottcantdance804 true, i would also mess with them. run through the place out of nowhere turn on a speaker in a different rooms. make them think i'm the crazy one

[@torrent3057]

Thanks for the heads up, ive heard this story multiple times from other creators and i never try to skip them in case they add any new information that others havent said but nope.

[@doc_sav]

The way the guys in that photo are tied reminds me of how "drownproofing" training is done. The one face down looks like he's reverse arching his back and legs to lift his head from the water. The (apparently) matching shirts and possible shadow of a man with a rifle makes me wonder if this was military training or SERE school or something. There are army special forces teams based in WA, and this is certainly the type of thing they might learn or use for selection courses.

[@rachelhansen2417]

This is the first benign explanation that actually makes sense for that photo

[@officerwaifu6408]

I've lived in apartments where I could hear my downstairs neighbors. The way the floors creaked made it sound like they were walking around in my apartment even though I was in the top floor. The people before them would also stomp around so hard my windows would rattle in their frames.

[@themoroseghost]

Just finished the first story and I highly doubt the upstairs neighbor was doing anything nefarious. First, how would she have gotten hidden cameras into the apartment? Unless she did it at some point when it was vacant. Then she wouldn't have possibly known who was going to move in. So unless she intended to annoy literally anyone who moved in below, it wouldn't have been targeted at op specifically. Also, being a person below someone sucks. You hear the people above you do all sorts of stuff. And some of it seems baffling. The last time I lived under someone, it sounded like they never sat still, ever. There was constant movement. All day and night. I think op just got fixated on the sounds and made more of it than was actually the case.

[@emperorofpluto]

Used to live in Tokyo where earthquake regulations mean the buildings are basically made of Kleenex and spit. At one time had a newlywed couple living in the next door apartment and because their bedroom was directly opposite mine I could hear _everything_ - they used to make love all the time and the woman was a screamer. Then they had a baby and sleep became a thing of the past.

[@TheVioletBunny]

Nah the girls a whack job

[@CoffeeCramps]

The real question is why was the OP of that apartment story wearing a mask within her apartment? 😂

[@wolfetteplays8894]

It’s called a wax key, or prying open the window 🪧

[@wolfetteplays8894]

@@emperorofpluto wouldn’t they wanna make the buildings stronger if there’s constant earthquakes though? Seems a bit counter-productive

[@CallMeFreakFujiko]

I know it's not exactly the same situation but I think I can defend the "you thing you know what you'd do until you're in the situation" thing with the second OP. Years ago I witnessed a mother hitting her child at the mall. Of course I always imagined that I'd step in while it's happening to make it stop happening but when I was in that situation my first instinct was to go to the nearest store and ask for security so he could make it stop. When I vented about it on Reddit (I was so pissed I had to vent about it everywhere) I got comments like "I would've yelled at her!" and all I could say was "that's what I thought I would do too, but when it actually happened..."

[@Middle-AgedWhiteGuy]

You can't let people hiding behind the safety of a keyboard bother you. I did get a lot of that on my RBI post, but just as many were sympathetic and helpful. I am the second OP, and I did what I could. If you had walked up on that person, you may have been assaulted, or worse. It's not as easy as they make it out to be, and as much as it bothers us, we can't go around confronting every asshole we encounter. You did what you could, and that shows you care.

[@jasonsaulters6027]

@@Middle-AgedWhiteGuy well you had no idea the cops wouldn't respond. Maybe if I owned a firearm I would try and stop it as it was obviously a time sensitive event but a lot of bad outcomes could come from that situation too.

[@wetsockfullofhotmeat]

This exactly. I work as a cashier and once had an elderly man in my line kicking, hitting, and yelling at his mentally disabled adult son. I thought I would say something or yell at him, but I was so frozen in horror that I just silently rang them up and said nothing. I wish I had done something now, but I just froze in shock because I had literally no clue what to say or do because I have no idea how to formally report abuse. Tough situations are easy to solve until you're in the driver's seat

[@theoneandonly7019]

@@Middle-AgedWhiteGuyprolaspe?

[@Rexburro]

The bleach bottle could've been innocent tho, during lockdown people in my complex would leave stuff like Clorox wipes and hand sanitizer by our doors. Although just a bleach bottle is quite weird...

[@gremloid]

i may be misremembering but i believe the original post was before quarantjne

[@ValariaJet]

I thought it looked like it fell out of a shopping bag and rolled. It didnt look deliberate to me

[@batsman27]

People above really be trying to justify a bleach put in front a black person's door

[@authenticpoppy]

@@gremloid She was wearing a mask. In her apartment. By herself.

[@chasegreen4103]

@@authenticpoppy idk if she just got home from work, she could easily still be wearing the mask

[@rose_moon1250]

If my upstairs neighbor copied my every move. I’m going to do the most killer workout in my house and see if they can keep up.

[@zachtreon4832]

It’s a strange feeling to hear Cadaber talk about the prolapsethis story. I live 30 minutes from where that crime happened, and I wasn’t even aware of it. You never really think horrible things like that would happen so close to home

[@davidlincolnbrooks]

Ever thought the upstairs neighbor might have a dog? I've had a similar problem: everything I do down here occasions a ripple of audible response directly above me. Then I realized: the guy upstairs has two dogs... Those goddam dogs, with their keen hearing, react to everything I do down here, 24/7. They think they're gonna get fed.

[@screamingnut]

You got a point there

[@_______6398]

If you listen to the video carefully there is no way dogs could stomp that loud and continuously in a way where it mimics a human “stomp-walking”

[@kelleh711]

I get so unbelievably angry with true crime stories that involve police negligence like in story #2. Two deaths could have been prevented if only our police actually had a legal duty to protect & serve.

[@misseselise3864]

same. hell, it pisses me off even if police neglect ends up with further injury and not just death. i was on the phone with 911 when my mom’s fiancé was attacking her and the operator heard him yell “i’m going to fucking kill you” but the state dropped all charges against her fiancé because she dead and there “wasn’t enough evidence” to prove he threatened her without her testimony. as if i wasn’t there and as if the dispatcher didn’t hear it himself. i even confirmed he heard it man, i said “did you hear him?” and the dispatcher said “did he just say he was going to kill her?”. don’t know why my word or the dispatchers wasn’t enough. i was listed as a victim in the police report as well. i personally saw and heard the entire altercation besides the first few seconds. it was a ten minute fight and i missed the first ten seconds max. made me wish i had been filming instead of calling 911. not like they helped anyways

[@SamAsMe]

The girl from the first story should have gone downstairs to her neighbor below her ask her if she hears her when shes walking around in her apartment and how does it sounds, that way she could have known if just walking around randomly sounds like that in this building. That would have given her a basis to compare the sounds to in that specific building.

[@hater455]

Thought the same tho i would annoy my upstair lady to a point of madness turning on shower and behaving like a mad person. The ultimate solution is look for an expert that knows hidden cameras and stuff if it is disturbing you that heavily. If no hidden cameras are present there is no way it is happening get your mental checkup or talk about landowner in detail

[@clevername8832]

I have a similar sort of situation at my apartment and the most heart breaking part is how hard it is to understand why a person's motive is so hard for others to imagine. I don't understand what people have to lose for believing someone. What I have found is that if I just tell the story as a matter of fact people believe it. If I come across as genuinely distressed and in need of help, I hear anything from insults to my mental health to being told I must be the problem. It's always so easy to blame victims of harassment.

[@scarymonsterzz]

It's sad but people don't want to believe there are just malicious evil aholes out there that will target people for harassment just because they don't like the way they look, the sound of their voice, the fact that they have a flower garden, ect. Or sometimes for seemingly no reason what so ever. No, they always want to ask "well what did YOU do to makes them so angry?" or "You MUST be exaggerating, they can't be THAT bad." 😑

[@tablescissors]

How similar?

[@diobrando2160]

meds. now.

[@therodyman700]

She literally has 0 evidence of the neighbor " stalking" her. The videos she makes is the neighbor walking around their apartment living their life while OP is completely obsessed with them. Even proofed it by having her friend work from her place and tell her she didn't notice any following.

[@kaleido457]

@@diobrando2160 You're the one who needs meds.

[@beawolfe]

I think all the last story has taught us is that if you're a blonde white dude with a mullet you probably went missing in the 70s/90s

[@intuitivehomebrew3199]

It's been awesome watching your Channel grow Lord Cadaber. Loved the colab you did with Nick Crowley as well. Keep up the good work buddy!!

[@darthwager5421]

My downstairs neigbors have done that exact thing for three years and it's insane. They're a nightmare. Searched my trash for no reason for three years. I'm not even doing anything except living alone. They prey on it because they're relentlessly empty and pathetic.

[@pepinyostep3592]

Ayo thats crazyy

[@progamerman27]

Racoons??

[@gamingmoyai3950]

@@progamerman27 nah bro my downstairs neighbor is 3 raccoons in a trench coat.

[@capralmarines4043]

@@gamingmoyai3950 lmfaoo

[@xpandorasboxx]

With the movie theory, it'd be.. really simple to either confirm or rule it out. Is there a scene similar looking to the image? No? Well, is the clothing of the actors similar to Guy A's? No? Okay, then it's most likely not from the movie. There wouldn't be any point to have the actors be in a completely different outfit that's not shown anywhere else in the film for a single scene, even if it's cut, at least in a movie like that. I haven't watched it, but usually in media, or even in real life, when you're stuck in the woods with people after you, changing your clothing isn't very high on the priority list, and I doubt there's many outfit changes in the film. Not sure if it's Teddy or not, but I don't think the image is from any movie.

[@sqeeye3102]

You make some really good points about checking for both scene composition AND character clothing. The clothing thing is genuinely a really good way to rule it out as an idea in general but not 100%. I remember watching a director's commentary with James Cameron where he said that his process for editing down movies that are too long is to remove entire plot elements across the movie that are less important, instead of just trying to shorten scenes enough to hit the mark. I find it to be unlikely in this case, but not impossible. That being said I also haven't seen Deliverance either so who knows.

[@jamesknapp64]

It could be a student film or photo from a guys camping trip. There are a bizallion things this could be as its so old and so grainy.

[@ns0557212]

@@sqeeye3102 lol it's funny you described James Cameron not shortening scenes but actually editing out the whole minor plot elements, as this is literally how you SHOULD edit movies especially during filming. Nowadays we have the stupid way of editing which is literally to shorten scenes instead (which is how we've ended with all the random director cuts and Zack Snyder JL which was soo much better than the original imo) in school they teach you plot elements are the most important but to have it as closely planned as possible but still being able to take away, I think it'd roughly 60% of the story, and still understand it. (I.e. one reason star wars the original did so well as it draws on the easiest of symbols of dark and light and literally as light is shown with the rebels and pure darkness with the empire).

[@xpandorasboxx]

@@sqeeye3102 Yeah, it's not a 100% way to tell for sure, I don't think there ever would be a way to tell for sure unless there's someone out there who just so happens to have all the footage, including cut scenes, on tape. Which I highly doubt is out there, at least in a watchable state.

[@gabriel-gk5eh]

And considering it might have to do with missing people, asking the actors is worth a shot

[@sislius7482]

The apartment thing is very weird because the same thing happen at our place. We live upstairs and whenever I go into the bathroom, I hear my neighbor downstairs turn their light on in their bathroom. Same thing with the kitchen. It’s like we have the same schedule or something.

[@whatsthetruth_review]

I'm going through the same scenario at the apartment I live in 💀

[@DanteHellDrive]

I really love your voice, it makes me intrigued to listen till the end. A lot of youtubers lack that and just sound like reading from a script.

[@youllbemytourniquet]

Possibly my favorite KZbin series ever. I love getting lost just thinking about these stories, great work.

[@nathanroon6961]

Really think that the first one was just anxiety and confirmation bias. I can totally remember when I was younger, especially with friends, psyching ourself in to believing people were stalking or acting strange who were just being normal. Alleged following above and stomping is so weird as well. Additionally, when you’re looking for it it’s easy to confirm things. One “follow” is enough to override 30 movements that were not follows. I get we want to be concerned but there is no proof and almost assuredly no cameras as she looked and could not find any. The only “proof” beyond allegations are the videos which didn’t prove much to me especially as the upstairs neighbor’s behavior didn’t seem perfectly consistent with her movements and moved towards and away from her. In the face of common sense telling us that following above is extremely unlikely and NO CONCRETE PROOF telling us that it is a constant thing she is experiencing, the most logical thing is she is not being followed and I say this will full compassion that I don’t think she is intentionally lying.

[@verngrl]

Agree. Add to that the lack of cameras found and the fact that, when it was just her friend alone in the apartment, suddenly the behavior stopped? One doesn't have to be a paranoid schizophrenic to have paranoid thoughts and temporary delusions. They can be the result of stress, sleep deprivation, medication side effects, other psychiatric disorders, etc. Other than having a neighbor who walks loudly above her in what appears to be a relatively small space, the video didn't really "prove" anything. And one of the original commenters was right: if there were cameras around...why would the person upstairs need to follow her around? She could just....watch on the camera?

[@theMoporter]

None of that makes sense considering that she says she was told to get, and then did get a psych evaluation, and was given the all-clear. Why do internet commenters think know more than the medical professionals who examined her?

[@naurrr]

she literally gave video proof. that doesn't make any sense. if it was just anxiety and confirmation bias, it wouldn't be so apparent that her upstairs neighbor was following her through her apartment on the video.

[@nathanroon6961]

@@theMoporter I’m not suggesting she has a mental condition, having anxiety and confirmation bias psyching yourself into something isn’t a condition.

[@nathanroon6961]

@@naurrr Is it apparent? The person also walked away from where she was multiple times. Maybe she was just doing something upstairs. The captions of what she believed was happening also increases our bias by suggesting what noises were and also what was happening.

[@poitaots5054]

I had a basement room in a house and was living there for a few months before roomie moved in. Every night it sounded like someone was walking around upstairs. Once my roomie moved in I found it it's actually much louder if someone is actually walking around upstairs. So the sounds I heard before were definitely just the old building or pipes. But the sound was enough for me to go upstairs and check multiple times when I was living there alone. It's weird but houses make a lot of noise. Assuming apartments do as well.

[@yuurmom7644]

that one comment blaming op for not moving out soon enough broke my heart. you never know why someone stays in a bad living situation - she might not have the resources to move out, may not be able to break her lease, etc. super heartless comment

[@LtPepperDimples]

I actually might know what’s up with the upstairs neighbor, because I AM the weird upstairs lady of my duplex. I don’t leave the house and don’t work. I’m diagnosed with many things, one of which is schizotypal personality disorder. It makes me super paranoid and causes extreme social anxiety. It's a schizophrenia-spectrum disorder. I live like a hermit and only speak to my husband. On top of that I have a HUGE sensitivity to sound (my hearing is insane) as well as misophonia. Even as a very small child I slept with a sound machine to mask noises and covered my ears all the time. I wear headphones most of the day because sounds nobody else seems to hear drive me nuts. And yes, I CAN hear my downstairs neighbor from time to time, but not with 100% accuracy. We have hardwood floors though. I would never treat my neighbor like this though. Let me make that abundantly clear. Have I had crying fits hiding in the bathroom because the neighbor dog won’t stop barking? Yes, but I’m not going to cause a scene. I know I’m the one with the issue. I take my medicine, see a therapist, and cope as best as I can. I wish the woman in the video would do the same. Her mental illness does not excuse her poor behavior or her racism. I don't act like that and it makes me angry when people use a mental illness diagnosis to excuse such things. All it does is stigmatize people like me. It makes me sad that my mental illness might possibly scare someone. I don't want to harm anyone. I'm just a person trying to live my life with an incredibly intrusive disorder. I really hope that people reading this will think of me when they hear stories like this, because we aren't boogiemen. I'm just trying my best with the body I was born with.

[@theMoporter]

I'm in a pretty similar situation, though I'm hypervigilant from trauma instead of schizophrenia, plus I'm autistic and ADHD. I can't tell you enough how much active noise canceling headphones changed my life - Bose QuietComforts. I went from one meltdown/shutdown a week to NONE, even when the next-door flat started doing renovations! I'm actually better at dealing with the fire alarm than my abled flatmate now just because it isn't physically painful with them on. If you can, please save up for a pair, they're the best.

[@youllbemytourniquet]

I was confused as to how the upstairs neighbor knew of OP's movements without any hidden cameras. The possible explanation of sound sensitivity makes so much sense. I hope she gets the help she needs. It's not fair to make OP and the other neighbors feel unsafe.

[@wolfetteplays8894]

You need to detox from your pills and go live away from society. Medicine is killing your mind and modern comforts are only making your issues worse. You need to find god, god will save you and cure you.

[@GoogleTrendingTopics]

As someone who has experienced intense paranoia before, to the point of having my windows boarded up because I was convinced my neighhbor was also stalking me - I think the girl in the first story is definitely having a mental breakdown and needs to be on some medication. I also think her upstairs neighbor is probably also a little off, and they might actually be feeding off of each other. When your mind betrays you, it's terrifying.

[@kandyweeb1885]

I think the neighbour might have a secret pet or something(explains the good hearing and following to some extent) or the building has a problem. She said something about it being louder while she showers, sounds like it could be the pipes reverbing or something

[@christhenerdtv]

Nothing like seeing a local news station when it comes to a murder story. Two stories, actually

[@gemi08080]

as someone currently living on the 2nd floor of a 4-story apt., i do hear my neighbours walking around, those downstairs often sound as though they're walking in my unit ... but i have never noticed whether we walk at the same time or if they "follow" me, the thought just doesn't come to mind; however, i feel it is much more likely to have these thoughts during high periods of stress - hell, i have a tendency to hallucinate (mostly auditory) during high stress and have been like this for 7 years now. ultimately, i would conclude its a combination of stress/mental instability in the OP and disorderly conduct by the neighbours. there really seem to be a lot more people who are deranged than people who are not, so i would say its safe to assume that the neighbour isn't entirely innocent ... maybe the stomping is intentional but not the stalking, or not all of it, at least.

[@navb0tactual]

Lol the cat that's chilling with me was looking around the room cautiously when the piano was playing at the start lmao

[@TheVioletBunny]

Established titles is a scam. I love how every channel that shills it uses the exact same script.

[@antlerman7644]

Pretty dissapointing when channels you like repeatedly plug it. If he doesn't research his sponsors properly, what about the research he does?

[@TheVioletBunny]

@@antlerman7644 yeah it’s unfortunate I think even sometimes if they do they push it to the side because it pays well

[@snood4743]

Same with Raid Shadow Legends. I’m guessing most KZbinrs are just desperate for money due to the platform’s demonetization habits.

[@TheVioletBunny]

@@snood4743 lol right ? We all know they aren’t ACTUALLY playing that trash mobile game and they know we all know it

[@fidelio9301]

What do you expect? It’s KZbin haha.

[@foggyvhs8790]

The first one was kinda so eerie. With anxiety I always have these worries that the cleaning lady at work hates me, the mailman hates me. Surely my landlord hates me and I began imagining my downstairs neighbour hating me (I walk around a lot because I'm unorganized) I came to find after 2 months no one even lives below me. I had just made this person up

[@theMoporter]

It's pretty infuriating and frustrating when you find out your mind has invented a problem for you. I'm currently recovering from functional neurological symptoms, which is kinda similar, but it's creates physical muscle problems and stuff too. The video proves she hasn't hallucinated the noises, at least.

[@rubycnt]

I had the exact same issue in my old flat except we were the upstairs neighbour. We lived in a badly converted old house so some noise is always possible (we could hear downstairs aswell), but even if we stirred a cup of tea too loud she would start banging on the ceiling with a broom. We couldnt even talk in the kitchen and she would accuse us of making noise in a room that was unoccupied. Even coming and banging on the door to scream at us. I was so relieved when we moved. I think its easy to tune in and become overly sensitive to sound (as my neighbour did) especially if you're already struggling, so I do feel in OPs case that could be what shes experiencing

[@ToastyModesteCh]

I love it when I wake up and there's a new video for me to watch posted just a minute or two ago, looking forward to this one!

[@phoenix_1518]

“Turn up audio for this next section” …Random ad proceeds to violate my ears

[@al_6754]

These ones are making me feel uneasy so good job! You deserve way more subs and views, dude, gonna sacrifice this salami roll I got to the algorithm for you.

[@rondon1143]

Bruh if the upstairs neighbor is following my steps, I’m gonna have them running laps and from wall to wall in their apartment. They are definitely gonna be in shape when I’m done 😮‍💨

[@frost1183]

Yes

[@yagamienjoyer4408]

😂

[@miabailey2236]

This is my favorite series out of any KZbinr please part 3

[@krystenwindows5468]

With the last story/case, I'm sure there are more cases of crime scene photos that have been found many years later at a secondhand store like Goodwill, however due to the photo quality, an identification is highly unlikely, and with the movie theory I think the producers could answer for certain if they're still alive or the production cast. It theres simply no way to answer if the photo is teddy, or another missing person or if it was a joke, sadly.

[@misseselise3864]

yeah there’s definitely cases of unsuspecting people stumbling upon crime scene photos. and there’s no way to know whether the photo depicts a genuine victim without identifying the person in the photo.

[@vortloldemord9295]

Reading the whole post and then recapping the whole post feels like watching an episode of Inuyasha

[@sallyh.6362]

That was a super interesting video. With the footage, 911 call, news reports, great video!

[@sea-abyssal]

The first story sounds plausible and I don't think she's just paranoid. The PITUA doesn't need to have a reason to do this to OP. There've been stalking/harrasment cases where the person causing all this has delusions that make little to no sense to be doing the things in the first place.

[@ahdumbs1161]

Yeah I agree, I don’t think saying OP is obviously mentally ill/paranoid is the right answer just because we cant rationalize why PITUA harassed her.

[@sea-abyssal]

@AssBeater 420 "Person In The Upstairs Apartment", op used PITUA for short so she didn't have to type that whole string of words all the time

[@Kurtisie]

When you say “home can quickly change” you kinda whistle against the mic by accident and it was cute and funny lol

[@victoriajane_]

I cannot believe I've only just discovered this channel! Amazing videos.

[@kam2894]

cadaber uploads always make my day

[@walterlippmann6292]

I had a roommate in college who said he could hear the neighbors talking about him. Eventually he started wearing earplugs to bed, but could still hear them whispering. Obviously he was going schizo.

[@theoneandonly7019]

wait, you can just become schizophrenic?

[@user-ol3il9tc2e]

@@theoneandonly7019yeah anytime any age randomly, pretty scary

[@Votrae]

Great vid! That final story was seriously haunting. Would appreciate reduction in added static/visual noise on footage. Today, it ranged from distracting - unpleasant - possible strobing concerns. Much love

[@poonspoonful]

This series is an instant classic

[@1810jeff]

That first one is kinda suspect, it seems like someone having paranoid delusions and constructing a narrative behind it. If you noticed she uses words that make everyone not believing/helping her seem like they're in on it. If you looked into "gang stalking" victims you'll see similar talk.

[@kailoveskitties]

I agree. She should get a second opinion regarding the potential for schizophrenia.

[@Ziaberry]

She said in the very first post that her therapist told her to get evaluated, and she did. If we're to believe her, she did say it came back and ruled out schizophrenia.

[@TheVioletBunny]

Nah the girl was nuts I knew the moment I swear her wearing a mask inside her own home alone and I’ve seen the excuse “she wanted to hide her face” yeah you can simply face the camera the other way and no mask or face showing is needed at all she is just mentally Ill sorry not sorry.

[@SinRuin]

@@Ziaberry schizophrenia but not psychosis

[@probableflaws3597]

Just a recommendation, not sure you need to wrap up right after you read a story. Since you’re the one narrating it’s like you’re telling the story twice in a row, albeit truncated the second time. Obviously if the story isn’t very clear it would make sense to clarify but these were pretty straightforward. Keep up the great work.

[@kasenrin3]

So as someone who lives upstairs, I hear my downstairs neighbors *constantly*. Anyone saying you don't hear your downstairs neighbors is full of crap.

[@materhead5051]

The first story was found to be older water pipes/plumbing. That's why she thinks her neighbor is stomping above when she runs water in the shower. Kinda tired of hearing that story now that I know lol.

[@NervousNuoh]

May I ask how that was discovered? I checked OOP’s comments and didn’t see anything about that.

[@TheVioletBunny]

Source ? It’s clear she was nuts wearing a mask alone in her own home thinking “the white man” was out to get her. But… me thinks it was all in her head being driven by fear and divide propaganda

[@bigfatpiss8787]

yea wheres ur source exactly huh?

[@frohnatur9806]

Plausible. But source pls

[@uncannystranger857]

For the first one, I'm just wondering if there has been any suggestion of an animal. I have heard cases of people hearing footsteps in their attic only to find out it was some sort of animal. Pet dogs and cats tend to follow me around whenever I go to my parent's. Don't a lot of pets/animals have extrasensory perceptions? Maybe it was a large dog that can smell the OP and was abandoned by its owner - maybe its so hungry that it follows the OP around hoping to be fed?

[@haley3656]

This is a great theory that I hadn’t seen yet about the noise coming from the upstairs apartment! My upstairs neighbor has a larger sized dog, and I can definitely hear him running around during the day and sometimes at night. I’ve never complained and there’s not much to do anyways because the doggy needs to move around a large area. Also, I think daily routines could explain why the neighbor is making noise in the same rooms above. For example, if the OP is making dinner at the typical time of day, it is likely the upstairs neighbor would be in the kitchen around the same time to also cook dinner. I can hear my upstairs neighbor’s shower turn on around the same time I shower in the early morning too. I can hear my neighbor move pots and pans around at breakfast and dinner time while I’m also in the kitchen. I really don’t think it’s stalking in this case. Apartments are just noisy sometimes.

[@Airsaber]

People claiming that "you never hear your downstairs neighbours" are hilarious. I've lived my fair share in apartment buildings, and you can absolutely have neighbours from Hell that live downstairs...

[@dan2230]

I haven't thought about this in years. I had the exact same experience as the first story in the early 90s. The upstairs neighbor walked above me everywhere I went in my apartment. Even if I stopped they would stop. I had carpeted floors so there was no way they could hear me and small cameras weren't a thing back then. I couldn't understand how they knew where I was. It freaked me out. I also never ever saw that neighbor. I moved out after just a couple months without even talking to the rental office and the strange thing was they never did anything about me breaking my lease.

[@memeju1ce]

another great video, Lord Cadaber!

[@rommy143]

Came thanks to the Crowley collab; stayed and subscribed because of the awesome content.

[@chompchompchangbin]

With the teddy franks shot, if it was a movie, there'd be a lot more shadows and possibly even a boom mic and a camera on a tripod. Also, I'm sure there'd be something on the photo with info or dates. I wonder what type of paper it was printed on. I think that could be a clue on if it was printed by a film company or if it was printed in a personal darkroom.

[@emperorofpluto]

That’s what I was thinking. Would’ve been a film camera so presumably developed from a lab.

[@kathyborthwick6738]

This is not from Deliverance film unless this part was edited-However, this waterway should have been investigated! ✨🔥✨🔥✨🔥✨

[@magnuskallas]

People completely forget about production and rehearsal photos. Tons are made that are not exactly like the film. That said the "scene" setup is indeed different from the Deliverance.

[@CuriousGeorgeFloyd]

I'm not trying to Troll, Offend, Or Anything, I'm absolutely serious. The Shadow of the person holding the gun looks like a Black Guy. Like I said, I'm not just Trolling, Really study the photo. The shadow appears to have an Afro and the body shape/facial structure look like that of a Black Male....

[@malbalheart]

love the warning youtube thing before the video lol, also thanks for finding storys i havent heard of, sick to learn new things.

[@phil6899]

Thanks for not ruining Deliverance with spoilers since it only came out 50 years ago.

[@whatsup9993]

u/prolapsethis is why you don’t chalk this up to “whatever op is thinking, they’re just paranoid”

[@tablescissors]

Re: Woman who never leaves apartment...how does she get mail, groceries, or throw away garbage? Second, as you have little to lose, why not "stalk" her door to talk? Or rather, confront. Did the Property Manager who took over NOT do this himself? I don't know what "leaving in secret" is supposed to mean, regarding the former roommate. It might be useful to try to track that person down as well though, if one thinks there is some clue why the woman above you acts that way. As to HOW she may be doing it...either she CAN hear more than you think. Or she has a manual way of peeking, not cameras. One could try white noise to make it harder to hear yourself. Why would the landlord/property manager not simply let you transfer to another apartment within the building??

[@darciheadswillroll]

1 you can have groceries delivered and you could easily not check mail 2 people who are obsessed or stalk are not beings based on logic, this could result in an attacking 3 idk maybe just weird wording or leaving abruptly 4 you can see in the video the person following them 5 Landlords are assholes and theyd rather just not do anything

[@tablescissors]

Darci You spent a lot of time on questions that: 1. You could not answer, as you are not the victim. 2. Were only partial answers (not to mention obvious). 3. Offered no SOLUTIONS. 4. Were wrong. I've been stalked.

[@darciheadswillroll]

@@tablescissors i offerin answers to what seems like you being a reddit detective, ive also been stalked and the last thing i wanna fucking do is "confront my stalker" why? also my offering up possible solutions isnt me being definitive andas you pointed out in 2> were obvious...why suggest the downright retarded option as " lol why didnt she knock on her door and have a 1 on 1 conversation with the person she believes is stalking her in some way" these are the most braindead ive ever seen youtube comments also you being stalked is not relavant in this conversation

[@darciheadswillroll]

@@tablescissors also solutions to what, unlike you when im on the internet i dont like to give usless fucking advice but thats just me, its a free country

[@tablescissors]

@@darciheadswillroll No. You are the most brain dead...as well as gifted with too much free time...are you sure YOU weren't the stalker in your own convenient tale here?

[@tokiwartuthe]

Your channel is sooooo good...thanks!

[@VIN7ERwav]

very cool! subbed and hyped for the next part

[@atthepartycheers]

The first story is so bonkers but mostly because of how flippant the commenters are. “Just move!” they say, “YOU are stalking THEM!” like what the hell are you talking about lol. How can she be stalking them by being in her own apartment recording some noise? Completely bizarre that people would try to turn it back on OP.

[@amp4105]

actual insane people who sadly live on the same earth as us

[@PoochieCollins]

I've well-found out that Reddit has a lot of rude people on it, and plenty of forum mods who ignore their own sub's rules about civility.

[@ishmiel21]

It really sounds like the person from the first story is slightly paranoid. The fact that they missed months of work because they think someone is in the same room as them even though they’re not in the same apartment is a little extreme. There’s nothing dangerous about what that person is doing, even if it is what OP says it is. OP also says that the person upstairs has reacted to certain things as if they were hidden cameras, but gives no examples whatsoever of what those things might be which leads me to think that never really happened. What sort of reactions were they? Reactions to what?

[@RosinaRosinaRosina]

i think they’re referring to the fact that the neighbour shouldn’t be able to hear where OP is walking since OP cant hear their downstairs neighbours at all. Therefore, assuming that a camera would be necessary for the neighbour to know which room OP is in.

[@ishmiel21]

@@RosinaRosinaRosina Sure, but like someone replied to the OP, why would they walk from room to room if there were cameras? That doesn't make sense. If there were cameras, the person would most likely sit in front of the screens and watch feeds. Also, the part of missing months of works makes zero sense for someone not suffering from some sort of mental illness. If the problem is happening while the OP is in their apartment, why not go to work and get out of the apartment?

[@gazer99]

@@ishmiel21 OP was tweaking

[@theMoporter]

@@ishmiel21 I'm not saying you have t believe OP, but "this obsessive stalker isn't acting rational" isn't a particularly stunning rebuttal. Not to mention that this particular rebuttal is pretty easily ruled out by common sense - nobody needs a stationary computer for surveillance cameras. The kind of hidden cameras you get from Amazon or Wish rarely work *without* downloading some proprietary app on your phone or tablet, it doesn't prove anything either way. It's pretty likely she can hear her neighbour moving without needing cameras.

[@ishmiel21]

@@theMoporter No, its not at all likely that OP's *upstairs* neighbor could hear her moving in her *downstairs* apartment. Turning on faucets, or the shower, or flushing the toilet, sure, but not simply moving from room to room.

[@marshallleevalentine]

Everyone keeps saying that you "don't hear your downstairs neighbors" but sometimes you do. I have in a lot of the cheap places I've lived in.

[@Hyena_Heckler]

the whiplash from getting a youtube content warning and having to click proceed to the goofy intro music was hilarious

[@owangejewice]

I've lived in the top floor of an apartment three times in my life and I ABSOLUTELY heard my downstairs neighbors all three times throughout the day for the entire lease. Humans are enormous mammals and we make a lot more noise than we realize. It's a stupid argument on its face just to write off the possibility you're being heard from one floor up.

[@0wlet290]

On the part "you can't hear your downstairs neighbors" - you DO. in old or shitty homes you can hear them so perfectly well. I can hear them talk, walk and I can hear their kids play (they are aware of this and we are pretty chill with eachother, so no worries). Our house is pretty old and not THAT great. so anything touching the walls and the floors can be heard on all 3 floors. It's not too bad, but yeah. Sorry for this comment. Since I watched this video this thought didn't let me go. Thanks again for this wonderful video!

[@KoopySandwiches]

I feel like the first OP might just have actually had some kind of paranoia disorder. Edit: apparently the “stomping” was actually water pipes making noise, hence why it corresponded with showers. So yeah, they were just paranoid.

[@lunar_moth]

Did they ever figure out why they seemed to hear footsteps "following" them everywhere in the apartment?

[@carboncringelifeform7907]

@@lunar_moth paranoid people don't have rational thoughts

[@kandyweeb1885]

@@lunar_mothbad acoustics or a secret pet following them based on the sound they’re making. Would like up with the running to the door when she opened her own door, as in the pet thought that was their owner

[@arsinowey66]

Crazy that the 2 final stories are from the Cincinnati area !?!? I just found your channel and was looking through your videos and making a Playlist, it's my habit to do so if I enjoyed the video that led me to a new channel.... Imagine my complete surprise as Rob Williams was the news commenter for the first story and then *BANG* there he is for the next story as well !! I'm really enjoying the stories you do, I did sub and will join your patreon 😊

[@rochelleiscanadian]

I listened to the lady with the "stalking," neighbour and didn't hear anything. I waited 2 months before complaining about new neighbours above me who yelled, drilled and hammered constantly all NIGHT before calling security at 2:30am. When I did, they informed me police were coming and my neighbours were sick of them for months of the daily noise...and police were coming again despite multiple warnings to arrest them. Now it's quiet. But if i had suspicions of cameras and such I would of bought the equipment to find any cameras or recording devices. She didn't. And who pays rent without a lease or watches a building lose EVERY single tenant when apartments were a rarity during the pandemic...people were paying a year in advance to get an apartment, which is illegal for landlords to do, but people took advantage of the housing crisis...and people are leaving because she walks around? I've had a swastika carved in my door and it was painted over... a small bottle of bleach is not a big deal. I think the entire story is simply someone looking for attention or a RPG. Much ado about nothing

[@googleblockedme5543]

Man, my downstairs neighbors were always the problem. Playing music from midnight to 5 am loudly. I even called the cops on them numerous times. So no, the upstairs neighbors aren’t always the problem

[@abbie_joan]

that stalker neighbor story is genuinely terrifying that poor lady cannot get any freaking peace or safety in her own home

[@natashka1982]

She made it all up clearly

[@UnkownUnkown01]

@@natashka1982 Well okay, what proof do you have Mr Holmes?

[@pluviophile5996]

@@natashka1982 Proof?

[@momcat2223]

Regarding the second story, having spent years working w clinicians dealing w the aftermath of csa, "if you see something/say something" is very real for me. That's why when, on Thanksgiving night, I instantly went into alert mode due to the high-pitched screams of a child [at that age when boys & girls sound identical & scream whether happy or terrified]. The sound was coming from our north and, once I'd gone outside to check, it was obvious they were playing some game in the lighted backyard. Whew.

[@V45hTh35t4mped]

Great series. I usually see the same old deep dives, but not any of these.