Why young men hate church - KingdomCraft

[@DruckerYTA]

Short answer: soft preaching, loss of tradition, and no spiritual fulfillment

[@JC.AEP2]

That's why I'm going to Catholicism

[@pianoatthirty]

Second for Catholicism. No early Christians believed “just accept Jesus and that’s it”. The Eucharist, confession, learning about mortal/venial sin and how to minimize sinful tendencies, etc. It’s a beautiful tradition. God wants people to take accountability for their lives and change with the help of the Holy Spirit, not just hear an empty message that “Ok you’re saved, you can’t do anything other than have more faith.”

[@joshuaparsons887]

​@@DruckerYTAbarely. I'd rather apostolic succession and the fullness of the truth.

[@HOLDFASTHOUND]

​@JC.AEP2 I think you would really appreciate this, it was a random suggestion yesterday, and by comparison the Roman Catholic church rituals seem like a watered down version.kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnnVkmimjNGsq6ssi=WBovw-UudQvv9XZN

[@Ohtiaraa]

hello again xD (this is the same account who saw u on the PBD video)

[@carsong7614]

The lack of strong Christian fathers in the Church is another big reason. Most of the time it’s the mom dragging the kids to church

[@kingoflebanon1986]

It's called the orthodox church dude

[@billytheconqueror5803]

Are you a larper?​@@kingoflebanon1986

[@alfieingrouille1528]

​no@@kingoflebanon1986

[@newme1589]

Big beard = manly

[@willcoffey2913]

Read the title as “Why Church no longer appeals to me” when I saw the notification and just about had a heart attack

[@hamontequila1104]

bro that would be scary

[@thewaterguy17]

*Shudders* perish the thought

[@Naomi-t2t]

Sorry.

[@bobchannell3553]

It seems like most KZbinrs want to use titles that will get your attention. I am guessing that's what he was doing when he labeled this one the way he did.

[@danshakuimo]

To be fair, I think that is a real thought that a lot of people have. But it's not necessarily a bad thing if you are able to come to terms with the (probably very) deep dissatisfaction you have and pray that God will help find a solution.

[@nperium9886]

Wow this vid came at the perfect time. I was at church this morning, and I was just thinking about how annoying all the multicolored lights were and how unenthused I was feeling about worship. I’ve been going to this church my whole life (I’m 17), but just recently I’ve started getting tired of all the “worshiptainment”, for lack of a better phrase. I love my church and the people there, but I really want my church to be a stronghold against the culture, instead of adopting its ways with the hope of making the gospel more “attractive”.

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

Find a traditional church: www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1PNd_sJagci84PyKmGC6M5VJtaLMEWxg&ll=8.447398021051736%2C-53.25029462262137&z=3

[@fighterofthenightman1057]

Historic Protestantism is calling you home, friend!

[@olekcholewa8171]

@@fighterofthenightman1057 Heresy cannot call anyone home

[@Postenebraslux-n4y]

​​@@olekcholewa8171neither can your beloved Mary

[@cassidyanderson3722]

Sounds like you would like Orthodox Christianity. Find a local parish and email the priest to let him know you will be visiting. Come and see what ancient Christianity is like. God bless.

[@JoWilliams-ud4eu]

Men without chest. I think Lewis put it best when he compares church to a military command center before going out into the world.

[@VVGrace-vl6ye]

Just read that book!

[@johnzachariahg]

I'm a Christian in the Philippines and I support your Reconquista movement. The crisis of young men is also just as bad on this side of the Earth, but we're doing our part!

[@Thatoneguy-pu8ty]

Nerdy theology helped save my faith. I was drifting in the emotionalism of my church, thinking I would go to hell because I wasn’t in a “good enough relationship with Jesus”. So I started researching theology. Intellectually understanding the faith, and what “faith” actually is (Hebrews 11:1) gave me peace with God thru faith in Jesus (Romans 5:1) . I’ve begun reading the book of Concord, and studying Lutheranism. It’s awesome. That’s what Protestantism is meant to be. Delivering the verbal message of the Gospel, aided by the visible gospel of the sacraments. Thanks Zoomer.

[@LukeBowman08]

dude i've seen you in literally every comment section one every person i watch and you have an almost exact story as me. i'll be praying for you :)

[@zrayish5164]

Very similar here on my end. I grew up Pentecostal & non-denominational. All the way through college I had never once was convinced I was a "real" Christian because I didn't have radical born again experience and didn't know if I had enough of a "personal relationship" (since that would imply I wouldn't be as much a sinner as I know I am or that I would be hearing God speak to me personally). I then got into studying theology & quickly replaced that anxiety with a new anxiety about whether or not I was in the "true church" and spent a couple years desperately trying to figure out if the Catholics, Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, or others were the "real" church that I needed to find to be saved. I also visited a Greek Orthodox church at this time, but that's a whole other story. Somehow, I ended up finding Lutheran theology which thoroughly answered my questions and pointed me to Christ rather than my own experience or anxieties about the competing churches. My wife & I were confirmed in the LCMS in early summer after almost of year of catechesis and we are very happy now.

[@Thatoneguy-pu8ty]

@@LukeBowman08 Yes I’m in every comments section lol. I’m a chronically online Gen z theobro 😅 Thank you for praying for me.

[@connor-do2bg]

@@LukeBowman08glad it’s not just me. but fr he has great takes

[@Thatoneguy-pu8ty]

@@zrayish5164 Thank you for sharing. The “personal relationship”, at least the way it has been taught to me, is still damaging to me. I didn’t understand that I could have no relationship with God at all without faith. Sometimes I still refuse to pray or read scripture because I feel as if I’ve let God down in our relationship, and I’m not worthy. But that’s the whole point. My will is in bondage to sin, apart from Him I can do nothing.

[@NoblePancakesLashleyMcfunk]

Too often, kindness and vulnerability are mistaken for weakness and fear. Men need to be admired and not criticized.

[@gigahorse1475]

@MarkStein-t7d Truly masculine men need to be admired. There’s no shortage of male admiration going on… the problem is that godly men are not admired, but worldly and evil men are.

[@MrDavePed]

Love for God is obedience unto God. Plain and simple. Not fuzzy feelings. Obedience. ..

[@frostedhams]

Sounds like god is a kinky dominatrix.

[@imperialhonorguard1483]

There aren't enough young people in my church.

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

go there anyway. church isn't about you

[@guzlemuzle]

start praying and sharing!

[@chiukid]

I am on Orthodox and Catholic pages. They say the same thing to their people. They say to stay anyways because of doctrine. Not because of the people running the church or the people in it.

[@Thatoneguy-pu8ty]

@@imperialhonorguard1483 old people goated

[@ringneck7500]

​@@redeemedzoomer6053I can't get no woman man.

[@Faithfulfilled1]

This is why I’m orthodox, we still have the tradition of the apostles. And I think that’s what most mainline Christian’s are missing, the true tradition. I really hope God’s church is united under one again someday. God bless to everyone! ☦️🫶

[@jaypritchard7122]

When Jesus returns and decides which traditions (Jewish & Christian) to keep while ruling then we will be united since there won’t be a need to debate about which traditions Jesus has as priority. We are waiting for his return and until then we will sing songs and reject traditions of empires.

[@kingoflebanon1986]

​@@jaypritchard7122the protestant keeps protesting... You guys have protested so hard some churches don't even teach the trinity

[@jaypritchard7122]

@@kingoflebanon1986 I’ve never protested (verb ) anything in my life :). I’m not even registered to vote. I don’t feel the need to protest since I’m a free citizen protected by the constitution of USA.

[@Professorgutierrez]

This is so good! Few things are more challenging nowadays than being a young man who’s living for Christ and dedicated to the church. Just like you said, we want something to fight for, my freshman year of college a popular trend was leaving everything and going to seminary to get into “full time ministry”. They didn’t offer any opportunities, follow up or give me a major leadership position, but God taught me that my secular campus is my mission field and despite the many challenges that came, He is sovereign. Now I am a professor at that same university and that’s why I chose to stay, to have an impact and support Christian students who go through this. I am at a new church and have a position there that helps me to influence others.

[@decoydave]

Men need meat and not warm milk. We need to be challenged in our thinking and inspired to be our best in who we are in Christ.

[@okj9060]

The Latin mass is so humbling bruvvvvv. It shows that we are not worthy. Very solemn. It fufilld old covenant worship nicely 😮‍💨😆

[@gracejohnston1715]

I don't think the overemotional style of contemporary worship is good for women either. It is mostly emotionally draining in the long run.

[@bobchannell3553]

I remember J. Vernon McGee said "no wonder this has become a woman's religion" in one of his radio sermons.

[@mizopa2005]

As Presbyterian living in Aizawl,Mizoram,India. I hate going to church because the church is filled with lukewarm,even church elders are same(Even though I am sinner who need grace but this guys doesn't repent at all) I wished and pray somebody will fixed this soon

[@rafnaegels8913]

Today i attended my second mass. I’m the only young man there. Thank you for leading me to this path, hope to get more young people to attend.

[@okj9060]

Go to the Latin mass! There’s many young people there

[@danshakuimo]

@@okj9060 Catholicism, the weird world where Zoomers are more conservative than the Boomers

[@okj9060]

Amen! Pls pray for the return of tradition

[@FiveGuysFan0604]

@@danshakuimo*The future is now, old man*

[@rafnaegels8913]

@@okj9060i look for one here in Belguim. But i think it’s more an american fenomenom.

[@noesautel1043]

5:03 is quite antithetical to christianity, Isaiah 53:3 talks about Jesus being "man of sorrows, used to suffering", saying God cannot feel pathos is not true, while the overall message is true, saying God doesn't suffer is not true, we talk about the "Passion of the Christ" for example

[@DaveMelonfire]

I mean, that was what I was thinking about was all the prophets who wept under the influence of the Spirit, all the messages from God about returning to Him, Jesus weeping for Lazarus, Jesus weeping for Jerusalem, Jesus sweating blood in the garden before His death, the New Testament apostles telling us that Jesus suffered greatly, and that we must partake in his sufferings as well...many, many examples.

[@StealthySpace7]

So much about the church does not appeal to men anymore, but I struggle with this. The music, the worship, even the message sometimes falls flat. For me it's easily the music though. I really don't like any contemporary Christian music. Last week my church sang two hymns instead and we even had a special classical guitar with an opera singer and in those moments I felt my mind clear and my spirit began to read itself to receive the word of God more than I ever have. The specifics of what kind of music to listen to might not be in the Bible but I think it's evidently clear from an experience like that that there is a difference

[@redeemedzoomer6053]

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[@okj9060]

The Gregorian chant at the Latin high mass lifts you up to God and it literally sounds like angels. I think you should go to a traditional Latin high mass. Trustttttt 😉

[@StealthySpace7]

@@redeemedzoomer6053 Unfortunately I live in mega-liberal Maryland now where I am far more than an hour from the nearest Church on your map, and had to leave my preferred Presbyterian church back in Ohio. I attend a Baptist church now mostly because the pastor is surprisingly high church and while I don't agree with their views on there being no spirit present in the sacraments, they don't look down on me for believing there is.

[@DaveMelonfire]

For me, a lot of Christian music clears my mind and gets me ready to listen to God, contemporary or not. These experiences are specific to people, not specific to music. I even have times where my focus will wander entirely without some kind of music to shift my focus back to God. It just goes back to the body analogy from the previous videos. Perhaps there's more to our specific body part we play in the whole than just our church role.

[@AgentWashington28]

I’m dying to hear his opinion on luce

[@qwertyman506]

What's luce?

[@AgentWashington28]

@@qwertyman506the vaticans anime girl

[@_BirdOfGoodOmen]

Well I hear he just banned anime on his discord so whatever it is it's *unfathomably blessed*

[@simeonyves5940]

@@qwertyman506 A demonic entity!

[@qwertyman506]

@@AgentWashington28 Ohhh, I DID hear about that! I'm just bad with names.

[@jkk45]

There's a great book called 'Why Men Hate Going to Church' by David Murrow, which I'd for all to recommend. As a young male myself. Also Redeemed Zoomer, as someone in the UK, I know of lots of good Bible teaching churches within historical Protestantism, which are not on the map and which have beautiful buildings. Could you add these please to help others. All Souls Langham Place (Anglican) St Ebbe's, Oxford (Anglican) St Alkmunds CHurch, Duffield (Anglican) St Pauls Hadley Wood (Anglican) St Nicholas Church Stevenage (Anglican)

[@simeonyves5940]

Add St Paul's Church, Fleetwood, Lancashire (Anglican) to that list as well!

[@jkk45]

Hopefully RZ takes notice…

[@simeonyves5940]

@@jkk45 Indeed, his map is very out of Date. For Example: he has failed to take note that Emmanuel Morecambe is no longer in the "FCE-Other" due to the Ungodly and Heretical Primus of that Denomination, and is now a Dissenting Reformed Anglican Chapel.

[@derhuhu3375]

If you join his discord server, there's a channel there to add churches

[@Rafi-bx7vj]

@@jkk45 I'm a Brit living abroad. Most of what I see about mainline churches in the UK is how compromised they are, is this true or looks worse that it actually is? I pray often for the church in England, that it stands on Biblical principles and refuses to compromise.

[@BiggestMuscles]

The pacifying is real... it's literally ingrained in every young man I know. It's terrible

[@danshakuimo]

I saw at least part of a video on some obscure Orthodox channel about the development of the Orthodox Church in Cambodia, and they guy said they needed to make sure the church building was beautiful because that was the only way the Cambodians would respect the religion. And for people who aren't aware, Cambodia is famous for its ornate Buddhist temples and one of them is even on the flag, so it's really no surprise how important "pretty buildings" are to Cambodians when it comes to matters of faith.

[@mrmegamarksman]

To add onto that, I think things like church buildings, events, and charity are surface level factors that can lead to people getting introduced to Christians as a group. What gets people to stay afterwards is the word of God. I’ve actually met a few Cambodians who were former Buddhists. They were initially attracted to the church by fun community events, but they stayed afterwards once they realized what the religion was truly about. This was in America though, so it was likely easier to convert without the social pressure. Regardless, it still shows the importance of the physical presence of the church and how it lends hand in hand with the spiritual. Do note though that a big, beautiful church doesn’t matter if the spiritual foundation is not Jesus Christ. All people, including Cambodians, will stay for the message, not for the building. Though important for now, buildings will break down one day, but God will be around forever.

[@fighterofthenightman1057]

Two big problems, IMO: 1. Contemporary worship is inherently more feminine than traditional worship. So, your average man looking for a church isn’t going to want to hand wave to an electric guitar in a church that looks like a high school auditorium. 2. The United States is historically VERY clearly a Protestant nation from a cultural perspective, and in many ways it still is. So, I think Catholicism has a low ceiling in the US for people without a Catholic ancestral background (only about 20% of Americans). We are SEVERELY lacking in historic Protestant churches - the churches that were culturally dominant for almost all of our nation’s history. We must revive them specifically to have any chance of stopping the secular trend.

[@joshuaparsons887]

Or you could switch to Orthodoxy

[@simeonyves5940]

@@joshuaparsons887 I would rather be burned at the Stake!

[@parttimememedealer7071]

​@joshuaparsons887 what I'm doing. My congregationalists church was spiritually dead.

[@okj9060]

Go to the Latin mass!

[@billytheconqueror5803]

​@@joshuaparsons887I'm not an incel

[@oshawott4544]

I'm so thankful my church builds beautiful buildings. I help clean them when it's our turn, and while it could use some upkeep, like replacing the pews or some carpet, it is just a nice building. And other buildings of my denomination are largely the same, very nice and clean. If most don't have a beautiful church to go to, of course it'd harm their faith. Why would someone believe in the beauty of Heaven, if the churches refuse to show that in the buildings they meet?

[@TITANUP8605]

Love is Lovely -redeemed zoomer 2024

[@Sir_Musy]

As a young man, I agree.

[@ProfesserLuigi]

It is a kindly thing to be kind.

[@TITANUP8605]

@@ProfesserLuigi Amen

[@Christianityunmasked]

I definitely agree with what you're saying A lot of church nowadays seems to be just focusing on love and emotion heck some of these churches tend to even stray away from preaching about the gospel they'll only talk about love but they won't even talk about sin

[@Thatoneguy-pu8ty]

0:07 🎶In the land of lovely loving it is lovely to be loved as we share in our communion on this lovely winged dove🎶

[@TitusCastiglione1503]

Sounds gae

[@paulwoodhouse3386]

​@@TitusCastiglione1503Hey man, stop harshing his ecumenical mellow

[@TitusCastiglione1503]

@@paulwoodhouse3386 not even really sure what you’re saying buuuuuuuuuut- Noe

[@matthewvanburen6415]

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[@paulwoodhouse3386]

@@TitusCastiglione1503 the op and I are referencing a Lutheran satire video.

[@KildaltonTheologicalStudies]

6:38 Ya, I’ve heard the “Red Pill” guys say you should be able to bench press 225 lbs before you are allowed to go to seminary and you should have a beard. I checked 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1 and couldn’t find those requirements, not even in the Greek.

[@AngloProtestant]

The thing I don't like about church is I'm very anti social and introverted. Churches are a community and very social. So either you go and conversate and build relations or you are the weird guy who goes in listens to the sermon, sing, pray and leave. Anyone have any advice for people like me to make the church experience more pleasant?

[@ilovejesus007]

I'd recommend to start slowly. Maybe after Sunday Service is over you make it a goal to just talk to 1 other person for a couple of minutes. If you hate small talk (like me) just ask them what they thought of the sermon. Or ask them how long they have attended the church you go to. after a minute or 2 when it seems like the convo is done or isnt going anywhere simply tell them that you hope they have a wonderful rest of their Sunday afternoon and leave. Do that for a month or something, then find a new person to do the same thing. After a year or whatever you will know 20+ people in the church, why they attend that church and how long they have been going, and their theology due to asking them about the sermon etc. Honestly doesnt seem like much, especially if there are hundreds of people in your church, But its better than not knowing anyone and just leaving 5 seconds after the service is done and running out the door. This is kind of how I do things and it seems to be better than just forcing myself to volunteer in a group of 30+ people in the church. Doing that will just overwhelm you and you might get burnt out. Just remember you will be going to church for the rest of your life, taking things slow when it comes to building relationships will help you in the long run. And most importantly you go to church to worship the One true living God, thats the most important thing.

[@monk4ever]

I always leave after the sermon. 😊

[@StephenAngelico]

I have come to the conclusion that it's not just evangelical churches that don't have pretty buildings, it's most new churches. I've seen Catholic churches around my city that have been established within the last 30 or so years, and externally they look no different from Baptist or Presbyterian churches built around the same time. Internally I've only seen a couple, but apart from specific requirements of a Catholic mass, they're not much different either.

[@kierancabana2970]

I am definetely more of a moderate but Zoomer has inspired me to restart (after 30-40 years) bi-weekly Choral Evensong at my mainline Anglican Church.

[@NoblePancakesLashleyMcfunk]

Possibly if women recognized that strong men also can be spiritually and emotionally vulnerable as is required to have a close relationship. But when men are hurt or pjnished for showing these vulnerabilities, then they close them off and harden their hearts. Especially if the women in the relationship doesnt see Christianity as admirable but as a weakness or short coming then we're just pff on the wrong foot all together

[@Auggg11]

If the woman isisnt a Christian, then the Christian man is to have nothing to do with them.

[@okj9060]

It’s ok. Jesus loves you. …go to the Latin Mass. there is vulnerability there. Everybody is striking their chests confessing sins in Latin, saying they are not worthy. It is very solemn and God centered. A woman behind me was crying today even. It’s very beautiful. You should try it out if you aren’t going to a church atm… good luck

[@StickmanA]

This reminded me we need more awareness of the real teachings. Christianity is pacified by a few misquoted verses that turn the word of God into a generic weak hippie lifestyle.

[@redknightsr69]

People used to work towards building a cathedral for 600 years! Presbyterians in the late 1500s: hold my Bible I need to ransack this idolatry

[@Nguyenzander]

hold the left button to destroy the tree

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

We used to push Christianity into every law and every job and every building. Now it's no longer a kingdom or national religion but the religion of the warehouse club. Whilst not living out virtuous laws outside of Sunday other than minimal avoidance of illegal by country standard laws.

[@Thatoneguy-pu8ty]

@@noahtylerpritchett2682 I remember when my state got rid of the last of our blue laws. I would go with my mom to Costco every Sunday and the alcohol section was cordoned off. Not the case anymore

[@simeonyves5940]

Amen, we need a PURITAN Theocracy or we are Doomed!

[@jaypritchard7122]

Do you support separation of church and state?

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@jaypritchard7122 define separation of church and state because believe it or not there's multitudes of definitions.

[@jaypritchard7122]

@@noahtylerpritchett2682 state funded or politically supported religion.

[@freekraccbacc]

In my church 70% of the singing is about God instead of to him. In the psalms it's the opposite. We should worship, and our worship should have an emotional response, not be a response to emotion.

[@alisatoniian9718]

12:50 As a Russian interested in our history, Russian revolution didn’t happen quite like that, but it is illustrating another point perfectly- one could say it was highjacked by communists

[@no1ofconsequence936]

The first cathedral was destroyed once. It was rebuilt while under the same hostile empire which destroyed it. It was left to rot. It was restored. It stands today a church in the first Christian nation. Armenia endures and rebuilds. We shall endure and rebuild as well.

[@Irrelevant_Earthling]

Redeemed zoomer being very skibidi

[@IrrelevantClassicist]

Oh my gosh not this again

[@Thatoneguy-pu8ty]

@@Irrelevant_Earthling regorged zongler

[@TSN-WVK08]

@Irrelevant_Earthling 😐🔫 say that again I dare you.

[@Irrelevant_Earthling]

@TSN-WVK08 Skibidi zoomer

[@h.a.z.m.a.t5072]

That opening sermon was so eye opening bro. Changed my life ❤️.

[@williamredtail9564]

I used to go to a mondern nonD church before seeing all thw problems you have mentioned in this video. I left and now am apart of a small reformed baptist church. Christ has grown me greatly in this last year since i have been attending

[@joshuajohansen1210]

What verses would you use to support your focus on Jesus commissioning His disciples to do physical kingdom building and not just spiritual kingdom building?

[@Naomi-t2t]

Worship, pray, fast, go to church, read the Bible, repent, confess your sins and Jesus is our Lord and saviour and believe in your heart that Jesus is our Lord and saviour.

[@manilamerkgaming]

What about the verse “the former things shall pass away” when heaven comes down to Earth isn’t all our churches going to disappear and it’s going to be replaced with perhaps streets of gold and nature?

[@alexyordanov6250]

The main problem is that most modern people convert to Christianity without understanding it's true meaning for emotional reasons and not logical once . Also I am lutheran and no lutheran I've ever met had ever converted purely out of emotion. In fact the majority of them were hardcore atheists in there early teen years before converting. However my best friend is an orthodox who converted just, because out of feelings. But at least he stands for his ideals that's what I respect. However what I hate is that he doesn't bother to read the bible or even check the theological facts. He blindly believes in the authority of his own church without thinking. He just says ,, Bro this guys are priests, THEY KNOW BETTER " He doesn't realise that they are shoving there heretical theories on to him.

[@joshuaparsons887]

You don't have a standard of what is heretical or not heretical

[@alexyordanov6250]

@@joshuaparsons887 I am talking about things that not even the orthodox church preaches. Like pegan , mormon, gnostic level insane herecy.

[@Ben-lh7jg]

I totally agree and think this is why there has been a massive increase in young men interested in Eastern Orthodoxy. We have more than doubled our catechumen class this past year and its overwhelmingly young men.

[@lkae4]

I think many young men hate church because they know pastors fear them.

[@WilliamMcAdams]

This is mostly likely the truth.

[@okj9060]

Become Catholic and go to the Latin Mass. a shepherd is not afraid of his flock.

[@WilliamMcAdams]

@okj9060 I wish TLM was more available; especially in the Bible Belt South. Only two TLM's are available in my whole State. Both of which are hours away.

[@WilliamMcAdams]

@okj9060 idk if this is everywhere, but our Bishop actively shutdown all but two Latin Masses in our State. Used to have one within 45 minutes a few years ago.

[@kingoflebanon1986]

​@@WilliamMcAdamsthen go to orthodox church it's the real thing anyways

[@pinkroses135]

Some of that contemporary Christian music weirds me out. If not the boyfriend stuff it's the theology/the end goal is ME. I 100% agree on the evangelical passivity thing. Glad someone is talking about it.

[@BrahmPlank-k5t]

Is the background music in the first few minutes Psalm 1 on the Genevan Psalter? Because it sounds extraordinarily similar to me, either way, I’m looking forward to the rest of the video, God bless!

[@TSN-WVK08]

Zoomed what do you think about using speculative fiction (fantasy, Sci-fi, horror, and alternate history) as a way of promoting what is biblical while not being necessarily outright Christian? Because Tolkien, Lewis, and Cawthon have story elements that are Christian but not outright propaganda.

[@lunaticmotorstormer]

no way, you actually like Scott Cawthon's old Christian movies and games? Can we be friends?

[@loganpeck5084]

Live in a city AND have 20 kids!

[@Skibidi_Fazbear]

having 20 kids is a recipe for a dysfuctional family. coming from a person with 8 siblings

[@NoobToobJamarMemes]

For me as a BJU student, chapel and many of the churches around here just evangelize to you. You attend a few services and you've attended them all. Very elementary level stuff being taught over and over and over and over..... "It's good to be reminded," is like telling college students it's good to review the alphabet. Ugh! The Church of God I attend is great, but I have to drive nearly 20 minutes to get to it. If not for that good church, I would lose my mind. Nearly every chapel is like the movie Groundhog Day. I bring up chapel because it's mandatory and meets multiple times a week.

[@scariestmovieever]

Mormonism is a cult, you need to do some research outside of the walls of your congregation and not just swallow what they're telling you.

[@litigioussociety4249]

The original concept of being red-pilled was not about super masculinity. It's about becoming aware of the gynocentric culture and justice system we live in that promotes hypergamy, polyamory, and divorce for women. An eighteen year old who is dating is unaware of the hidden realities. As a result, a man needs to protect themselves from those things by having high standards when it comes to marriage. Much of the culture including Christians preaches to men to have lower standards and just get married, and be a devoted husband, when in reality Christian men really need to make sure they marry a Christian with reasonable views on things like finances, parenting, theology, and divorce, or else they have a much higher risk of facing divorce. Men should avoid living together for example, another cultural temptation, for many reasons because including legal problems that can arise. There are things women should do to protect themselves as well, but the main point is that the legal system is more on their side when it comes to those things.

[@vinceplanetta8415]

Love the transparency of this guy

[@jackbaynes3959]

I don't agree with any of this 5 minutes in. I'm a 21-year-old recent theology graduate and non-denominational. I know many young men who confess to be Christian, including some you'd call masculine (like footballers, hockey players and even an MMA fighter!). I don't think the problem with religion in atheist circles is a gender issue (unless it's females complaining about Pauline misogyny or one Indian girl who grew up Catholic in a culture where women on their menstrual cycle were banned from attending church - but it's RARELY a masculinity problem in my circles). Reasons for people disliking religion tend to be down to a question of morality and the problem of evil, as well as concerns of bias and boredom etc.

[@thegreypilgrim2849]

Nah, I just think Christianity is, in the majority of cases, just a fear-mongering religion. That's why I left this year, and why I won't be one any time soon.

[@Duskbound]

You call women females, gross.

[@omarvazquez3355]

More sermons on being a warrior for Christ and putting on His armor ❤💪

[@papalol1327]

Saying that you don't want to go to a church bc there's a girl sounds really silly

[@RobertG3567]

It does on the face of it. But when you look at how the Bible prescribes male elders, why go to a church that rejects God's instructions if you can find somewhere more faithful to biblical truth?

[@Pierrot_48]

This is not about physically going to church per se but more-so about Christianity as a whole: young men also have a tendency to rebel (due to highs of energy, turning angst into "the fight" and so on) and so many follow causes against what is "acceptable to rebel against" so to speak. Since the 19th century, it's been slowly "established" that the Church and Christianity is "ok" to rebel against, and youth followed that. Young men also have a lower chance of going through some great tragedy that makes them physically and mentally weak (deaths of close ones and so on); hence, in combination with "aging out" of that angst (usually around 25) plus experiencing more of Life itself, I do see, anecdotally ofc, that they begin to consider Christianity and the Church with more respect eventually. I have a friend who mocked the tradition of going to church when we were teens, but now himself attends regularly.

[@FissileThomist]

This is probably the best RZ video so far

[@PeppyWasTaken]

Loving that Genevan psalter in the background, thanks for that video 😁

[@IanRice-Lindseth]

10:16 ooh that jump was slick

[@newme1589]

Most young men think Christ is a pacifist, thats not very "trad based fr fr". Tell them that Christ purposefully built a whip to drive people out of the temple, and watch their eyes open.

[@sw3783]

Things to build for your church - Food independence & security, interest free debt system, mentorship program for careers, matchmaking or courtship opportunities ...

[@lain7758]

This guy has beef with the fictional Catholic anime girl. Remember this every time he posts a video with Minecraft in the background.

[@TSN-WVK08]

The feelings thing is the reason I don’t trust Charismaticism in the Church, that and the fact they just talk out of their butts.

[@scottsinger273]

Can't thank you enough!!!

[@LTDLimiTeD1995]

Just today I was looking at the back wall of our windowless sanctuary and thinking, "What if there was a giant cross-shaped window behind or instead of [the cross that hangs there].

[@thedemotivationalspeaker3090]

"WHO THE SOOOOOOOOOON SEEEEEEEEETS FUREEEEEEEEEEHHH OOH IS FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IIIIIIIINDEEEEEEEEEED!!!!!! I'M A CHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILD OOOOOOOOOOF GOD, YES IIIIIIIIIIIIII AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMM" What does this on loop for 10 minutes add to my spiritual life?

[@somtjinorother760]

Imagine letting a Minecraft video essayist question your masculinity and faith, lol.

[@ThatOneMarchingGuy]

I was having a conversation with my pastor about this exact topic and how it stems into theological liberalism. It’s crazy how God works like that lol.

[@KuronoCthulhu]

I agree with your points except the idea that God is "impassable" as you said. Genesis 6:6 - 13 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. (Granted this is maybe the most extreme example available, but bear with me). Jesus shows a righteous wrath against the money changers in the temple, and also curses a fig tree for not bearing fruit when it was out of season. I get your point that maybe the personal sins we make day to day do not affect God in a meaningful way, but there seems to be good evidence that God does indeed react to humanity in an emotive way.

[@yeetoburrito9972]

Zoomer, I think you may wish to re-evaluate how you define masculinity and femininity, the Romans who go to the gladiatorial games couldn't be more masculine as to be masculine is a good thing and watching the gladiatorial games is a bad thing, its not that the games are more masculine, its that the pagans were twisting masculinity into a sinful version of it. Ditto with modernity, the problem is not finding the right "mix" its about finding true femininity and masculinity.

[@yeetoburrito9972]

The two are not in opposition to each other, they are in opposition to their twisted variants

[@ravenvane2227]

He mentioned in the video that the redpill reactionary movement that is also bad. But I agree that he should have made the distinction between biblical masculinity and primal, sinful “masculinity”( rivalry, reveling, sensuality) etc.

[@jahnvantuttlesma8215]

This is an odd topic to discuss considering that more women are leaving the church than men and that the church is now more of a “masculine” space than it was historically.

[@magickaldood]

I can tell how feminized a congregation has become based on their description of God. If He is kind and loving (except for the OT but we don't talk about that here). Or He is gracious and just. Grace from God is not kindness nor a human emotion nor a good feeling. It's a merciful adjudication of a sinner not condemned to pay ones own penalty.

[@calebwilliamson5797]

What a great video, thank you for this.

[@josephbrandenburg4373]

5:03 my brother in Christ the whole point of Christianity is that God suffered on a cross They (the Jews who rejected him) literally broke his heart by driving a Roman spear into it

[@johngalt5166]

Yo I’m a seminary student so maybe I’m just having a brain dead moment and I don’t want to sound stupid, but can someone explain to me how God is impassable (incapable of suffering) if God The Son suffered and died on the cross? Expressed the emotion of regret etc.

[@justinm4497]

mothers day: Women are wonderful. fathers day: men repent of your evil.

[@elijahcandage]

This man above me... FISH REACT HIM!!!!

[@martinrivera3060]

Minute 1:11-1:24 I loved it when he said that

[@saltydog6951]

Good thoughts. I will also add older people at church need to keep their hands to themselves. Older women forcing a hug on me or an older guy walking up behind me and clapping me on the shoulder or back of the neck is not cool - especially when I don't know them. Seems to happen frequently even as I have visited churches of different denominations, and it seems like something people do way more to younger men.

[@jamilgonzaga7081]

Question: How can I correct the church that's been misled by the false teaching about the rapture? I see a lot of uncertainty around my church and its branches, and I want to prevent a lot of Christians from falling away from the faith. I live in the Philippines

[@jhoughjr1]

Standing and homsing hangs with strangers

[@ShepherdGuyIsHere]

Last week I went to an ND church that made a huge deal about baptism but literally didn't didn't practice communion. Tell me you don't care about anything other than saving individual souls without telling me you don't care about anything other than saving individual souls.

[@okj9060]

At the end of the day it’s not really clear if they’re saving souls. They baptize people and send them off hoping that they’ll stay inline with their decision for the rest of their lives. There’s no official doctrine to guide them. They read the Bible but at the end of the day, the Bible is hard to understand and eventually you have to look up stuff and receive your interpretations from Protestants. Come to the Catholic Church, we’ve been doing this for almost two thousand years. Pray to God about it 1 Timothy 3:15 Best of luck on your faith journey

[@darthseagraves]

I'd rather keep going to the southern baptist church. My grandpa's church, my grandpa's grandpa's church.

[@woodtier-gv8he]

It's discouraging, men need leaders, fighters, otherwise they'll vote for Kamala Harris.

[@Duskbound]

Because trump the pervert is such an excellent fucking leader

[@RedRoosterRoman]

RZ; Regarding your comments on Wagner's channel in the three synoptic gospels when Christ says "whose depiction and inscription is on this coin??" And people say "Ceasars!" Jesus doesn't say "NO, Ceasars skin isn't silver. And his head is 3D and about 20x bigger. This is a flawed phantasm and does not actually represent Ceasar at all!" He implicitly acknowledges that the imperfect image is of a certain man through the intent of the artist and the inscription. As long as people have a mature understanding that Jesus isn't a Caucasian man... No harm is done. The same as if people didn't start rejecting the Emperor because his skin isn't silver like the "true emperor" from the coin If Ceasar is a man, and Christ has a human nature... As St Theodore studite and St John Damascene say this becomes a purely christological issue.

[@RedRoosterRoman]

Regarding numbering of commandments: the Torah, let alone chapter and verse divisions, -they are called the 10 "WORDS" in scripture. It is tradition that there are ten "commandments". The first "word" could be the identification of YHWH. Which would be CRUCIAL to understand the other "words" in context. To me this is what naturally makes more sense (for exodus 20): And God spoke all these words: -1- “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. -2- You shall have no other gods before me, You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; * FOR I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments. * -3- You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God; *FOR THE Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.* -4- Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. *FOR IN six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.* -5- Honor your father and your mother; *SO THAT you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.* (I put the *asterisks* on the paragraphs where I believe this shows explanation and/or punishment - "FOR/SO THAT"; and makes a reasonable break between the 4 first commandments.) Even without the 1st word being identification of who the commandments are from/regarding.... -Deuteronomy 5 came later and is more likely to be the refined/correct split of the final word(s) -the *for/so* paragraphs show how the first 4 commandments ought to be naturally divided. Exodus 34 ritual Decalogue: 12 Take care, lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land to which you go, lest it become a snare in your midst. 13 You shall tear down their altars and break their pillars and cut down their Asherim 14 (for you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God), Verse 14 shows the intrinsic link between having altars and pillars and asherim (idols) And the commandment to "worship no other Gods; for God is a jealous God" 1. There is parallelism between these two imperatives (coveting property, coveting another's wife ) and the imperatives to not commit adultery and to not steal, which everyone regards as two separate Words. Thus we should reckon these two imperatives as two separate words. 2. This is strengthened by the fact that in the Deuteronomy 5 version these imperatives are in the same order as the Words against adultery and theft, strengthening the parallelism. 3. The Deuteronomy 5 version of the Decalogue uses different verbs in the two imperatives. It says one must not "covet" (Hebrew, ) a neighbor's spouse, but that one must not "desire" (Hebrew, ) a neighbor's property. Two separate verbs, thus two separate Words. 9 commandments? First "word" identification of God. 3 for Trinity 6 for man This does not prove anything particularly one way or the other. Many Orthodox use the Protestant numbering yet venerate icons. And Lutherans use the common Catholic numbering yet refuse icon veneration. I used the Catholic numbering for simplicity I'm confessions. Even though I honestly believe this is how the original ten words were seperated. God bless

[@NathanSaor1798]

i once heard a song saying Jesus fill me up and I was like what on earth is this xD

[@breadfellow9133]

I’m curious how the doctrine of divine impassibility squares with the recent discussion of nestorianiam

[@bobchannell3553]

I've never heard (at about 4:50) anyone say "Jesus is my boyfriend".

[@MarcuustheMoose]

I unironically have, but I think it was more of a joke and an funny excuse for not having a boyfriend.

[@duffman9908]

Men need a purpose. The world tells men that they are obsolete. Christ tells men and women that they have purpose and that they belong.

[@pinkroses135]

The pretty churches symbolize reverence. I think that's important. It's a boundary line of masculine structure imo.

[@Epiccfied]

What is this server’s ip?

[@The_Surge8760]

My view on running away is not a good one, stand your ground in prayer, fasting and scripture. Stand for the Truth.

[@nicknuckles1210]

How do I join the Minecraft sever?

[@sunkissedprincess]

I was told once in an Emotional Intelligence class that the part of the program I have mentioned before, and they mentioned that the are of the brain that processes emotions is below the prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain that processes reason, logic and the cold hard facts you are interested in. The prefrontal cortex is behind your forehead. It its not a left brain right brain thing because the prefrontal cortex and the part of the brain that deals with emotions below it exists on both the left and the right part of the brain. (Throwing that in there because it's true) it would explain why the 16personalities quiz results I took multiple times every 6ish months had me flip flopping between INTJ-A and INFJ-A. In short, both areas of the brain are meant to be used because most people use them anyway, throughout their entire life, contrary to the not 100% scientific or accurate, (even though it can be helpful) 16 personalities quiz, which implies a large part of one's personality will be expressed one or the other more, through your life, it's not always a personality thing as a everyone does it thing, fluctuating daily, and since, correct me if ime wrong someone, since, even though some people are more expressive with either more than others, i saw it as a requirement, personally, because that is how a brain usually functions healthily. And so comes that balance between the two because of the fruits of the spirt, but also because of discernment, knowledge, and wisdom. And emphasizing one over the other is not the best. So that would mean that they would express both those aspects in worship, sermons, and community.

[@sunkissedprincess]

But the worship music, where I am at is very personal, but also mixed it is cold hard facts delivered gently,with no sugar coating. Plainly.

[@theSamuraiKaizen]

I think we should talk about why women are leaving the church as well

[@TitusCastiglione1503]

Yes; this would be welcome

[@TheLanceAdams]

No. Women follow, men lead. They will come when the men are at church.

[@MistyshaAnguo]

Can you, RZ, or someone explain to me the statement "God is impassible, God is incapable of suffering"? I don't quite understand this statement. Very interesting video nonetheless.