Redesigning the Inventory in my Farming Game

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ThinMatrix

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@ThinMatrix
@ThinMatrix 9 ай бұрын
A rather vloggy devlog this week - there's not a whole load of dev content to show while I'm redoing the UI. Only one or two more UI devlogs to go though, and then it's just gameplay features and new content all the way till launch!
@tornado3007
@tornado3007 9 ай бұрын
I actually like the vlog devlog style. It’s unique and not like all the other devlogs. Keep going the game looks great 👍
@klaxoncow
@klaxoncow 9 ай бұрын
Include the descriptions. If people need the reminder of what it does, it's there (and the player doesn't have to go all the way to the shop to find the description again). If they don't care, then human brain is extremely good at learning how to ignore things - as long as it's always in a consistent place then, try it out yourself, you'll very rapidly learn to focus on the bits that matter and will stop even seeing it's there. (And it's one of the WCAG accessibility principles. You should always be able to work out the context from the item itself, so that there is no reliance on a cognitive function test. In other words, not including the descriptions means you're relying on people's memory. Don't do this unless it's intrinsically unavoidable.)
@clonkex
@clonkex 9 ай бұрын
@@tornado3007 As do I. I have lived in the country my whole life but it's Australian countryside and tends to be... drab. It's fascinating to see a more European countryside and helps me appreciate what I already have.
@semydev
@semydev 9 ай бұрын
One suggestion, please make it so the items go into the inventory even if the hotbar is not full as it makes it feel messy I think. If you like it like this, leave it, just a suggestion.
@CeliriaRose
@CeliriaRose 5 ай бұрын
Out of curiosity is there any possibility of the game coming to iOS? It seems like it would fit well on a tablet.
@WakanaSora
@WakanaSora 9 ай бұрын
Should definitely have some way of seeing the description of an item after you buy it. If nothing else, then for the case of someone doesn't play the game for a while and comes back to it, they may no longer know what something they bought before the break does. Love the videos, games making amazing progress
@hinoki.mp4
@hinoki.mp4 9 ай бұрын
totally agree
@streetster20
@streetster20 9 ай бұрын
Maybe a book almanac or menu item to explain the tools or items you've bought and other features of the game?
@ApichartNakarungutti
@ApichartNakarungutti 9 ай бұрын
Yes, I do remember when I bought, but my future me, 2 weeks later doesn't, I am sure about it.
@madmanmax120
@madmanmax120 9 ай бұрын
had the same thought. There should be some way for people to read up where to use their tools if they've put the game down for a while. I kinda wish all games had this in general, because jumping back into something you were already in the middle of is so hard it often puts me off trying to play the game in the first place 😅
@AreQ212
@AreQ212 9 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was about to say. You can always make it expandable, like after some time with mouseover that item, or maybe key modifier like Shift, or simply additional Game Option to toggle them on and off.
@kazeroth1234
@kazeroth1234 9 ай бұрын
Regarding the item descriptions, a common compromise I see in-games... (1) Hold down Alt while mousing over an item, to see the "Detailed View". When your not holding down Alt, you get the "Compact View".
@z0bi_
@z0bi_ 9 ай бұрын
If not mapped already i would just use the right mouse button. It's very intuitive because that how it works in most dekstop applications already.
@Col_Crunch
@Col_Crunch 9 ай бұрын
@@z0bi_ from what he said in the video, the right click brings up the tooltip already. So if you have 2 different view options bringing up one of them would require a modifier.
@Definitely_a_Fox
@Definitely_a_Fox 9 ай бұрын
You could also have it that mousing over the icon shows the simple tooltip, but right clicking on it brings up the description too.
@doce3609
@doce3609 9 ай бұрын
Definitely a Factorio Engineer we found here
@the-pink-hacker
@the-pink-hacker 9 ай бұрын
This
@mightyn8
@mightyn8 9 ай бұрын
I honestly think a basic looking inventory is better than a too-interesting looking one. Since the player is going to be seeing it a lot, I'm of the opinion that you want the player to not even notice the inventory, for it to just be perceived as a natural part of playing the game. And for that you just need something that looks serviceable and basic, while fitting the overall UI visuals that you went for in the game. I wouldn't stress too much about how the inventory looks, and instead just focus on how using it feels for the player and ensure that it feels easy and intuitive to use, since the player will be using it a lot. Great work! Edit: in terms of item descriptions, I think it's best to show the item's description as well when the player inspects it. You never know if for example a player is coming back to the game after not playing it for a while, and doesn't quite remember what every item does. It's useful to see the descriptions in the inspect panel, and it'll just be basically not noticeable for players who are just looking for the item's stats.
@ThinMatrix
@ThinMatrix 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@hunortekse2745
@hunortekse2745 9 ай бұрын
Hi, I have two ideas, one is to make a sort inventory button, it would be very useful in my opinion. The other one is related to item descriptions, you could make a small button in the tooltip with a question mark, when the player clicks on it the description will appear. The game is looking awesome, keep up the good work!
@sky01james28
@sky01james28 9 ай бұрын
I agree! Add a few sorting buttons: alphabetical, quantity, and category at the least
@ThinMatrix
@ThinMatrix 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I definitely want to add some sorting options, or maybe have different tabs for different types of items.
@hunortekse2745
@hunortekse2745 9 ай бұрын
@@ThinMatrix That is a great idea, probably would make the inventory more organized
@johnwisdomtv
@johnwisdomtv 9 ай бұрын
@@ThinMatrixtabs absolutely😊
@SY6Dave
@SY6Dave 9 ай бұрын
+1 on the sorting/grouping by type. (E.g. tools first, then materials, etc ) - terraria has something like this
@teahands
@teahands 9 ай бұрын
Sitting here feeling quite unwell and very sorry for myself. Refresh the page. ThinMatrix devlog just dropped. Thank you god.
@ThinMatrix
@ThinMatrix 9 ай бұрын
Hope you feel better soon!
@StarContract
@StarContract 9 ай бұрын
Gardener, chef, teacher, programmer, designer, artist
@goldencoyotte2647
@goldencoyotte2647 9 ай бұрын
These devlogs are so good, you are a big inspiration to me as an artist working in game dev. I love the simplicity of the art in your game
@ThinMatrix
@ThinMatrix 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@br3nto
@br3nto 9 ай бұрын
12:27 it’s always good to show the description. If a user doesn’t open the game for a bit and later comes back to it, they may have forgotten.
@guilhermerusso7605
@guilhermerusso7605 9 ай бұрын
The UI is looking pretty good! My only tip would be in the item display, you could show the name of the item when hovering, and the stats and description of the item when right-clicking. That would remind the player what the item served for. This is just an opinion, because once you put many hours into the game and with a lot of items bought, it can get overwhelming to know every single item by head. But keep up the good work can't wait to play the game! :D
@ThinMatrix
@ThinMatrix 9 ай бұрын
Nice idea, thanks!
@monalloyd
@monalloyd 8 ай бұрын
Hi! Not sure if you'll read this - I love your devlog series, it's food for the soul! And I really appreciate your filming and editing style, it all fits so well together with your balcony and the cooking and the walks with Rufus, just a really great series! Not sure if your audience overall would be interested in this, but I recently started learning Java (web dev rather than software, though), and I would really love to learn more about how you're building games from scratch, how you made camera and graphics work, your sound system - anything like that. In my brain there is a big yawning chasm between, "oh yeah, I can get game logic to work and print it to the console (or maybe have a super simple gui with javafx or something)" and going to a fully fledged game with just, you know, plain Java. I know videos are a lot of work, and it may not be the best thing for your channel, and I definitely appreciate any and all videos you make, so it's of course completely understandable if you didn't want to make a video about it! Just if you ever wanted to talk about the under-the-hood stuff, there's at least one subscriber who'd geek out about it! Thanks for all the work you put into this!
@noise_dev
@noise_dev 8 ай бұрын
I have been reminded about this channel by a different video (Sasquatch B Studios) mentioning you and I have to admit that your content was one of the first devlogs I've ever seen. Subbed, not to loose it again :) good luck on your project and thank you for such a great content
@hamzahgamedev
@hamzahgamedev 9 ай бұрын
Your devlogs are so captivating that they inspired me to make my own cozy farming game haha. I am suuperr excited for Homegrown and I wish you all the best! 💌
@jamienorman7940
@jamienorman7940 9 ай бұрын
You neeeeed the item description in the inventory!!! Plenty of people forget things fast and also the idea of someone coming back to the game and forgetting what everything in their inventory does is very discouraging!
@PuraTvOyun
@PuraTvOyun 9 ай бұрын
In Stardew Valley we can use Tab key to iterate the hotbar over the rows of our inventory. It's really useful when esspecially with this type of gameplay where you manage many resources and opening up the inventory is tedious after a while. I highly recommend you implement this. Of course this means a fixed size of row in your inventory and overhauling the inventory management. But just wanted to let you aware of the situation. I love your content and follow you since the middle of the development of equilinox.
@Cr0Wn3rD
@Cr0Wn3rD 9 ай бұрын
As some previous comments suggested, the inventory needs some sort of sorting. But instead of a sorting button, I would add tabs for tools, vegetables, furtulazers etc. The reason is, when you will add more content to the game, the inventory will be cluttered. Imagine having 50 different seeds, plants, fertilizers and 15 different tools all displaying on one screen.
@beldrnl
@beldrnl 9 ай бұрын
The inventory should have tabs at the top for categories like tools, produce, fertilizer etc. thats a better overview then one big list!
@paulsitt
@paulsitt 9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed your stay in Thailand. Feel free to come back anytime, and good luck with the game!
@Geoblex
@Geoblex 9 ай бұрын
Always excited when you drop a new vid. So calming and inspiring. :)
@ThomasTournoys
@ThomasTournoys 9 ай бұрын
I think it's always nice to have an easy way to see the description of the items. For example, even though I've been playing Pokémon since forever I always find myself checking the description of moves and items to see what they do even though I probably used them thousands of times before. Also, in my gamedev journey, I found that you can't always rely on the player's memory, in some of my playtests I saw players completely lost even though the game had explicitly told them what to do prior
@ThinMatrix
@ThinMatrix 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@MunzirSuliman
@MunzirSuliman 8 ай бұрын
would be awesome to see a Trello quick tutorial ..... all of the best ❤
@tezza48
@tezza48 9 ай бұрын
Scrolling panels are the bane of our games, i salute you for getting to work nicely!
@dotLaura
@dotLaura 9 ай бұрын
As a UI designer I think you’re missing a categories level to your inventory. Imagine going to the supermarket and every item is in the same aisle. I suggest thinking about the action the user is trying to perform when they open the inventory. Eg ‘I want to plant a seed’. You don’t need to see all the other categories of items, this gets in the way of finding what you want. Animal Crossing has a hard limit on the number of items a user can hold so it still runs into that problem but it can mitigate.
@WesleyRobertson-i6y
@WesleyRobertson-i6y 9 ай бұрын
This game is looking more and more fun every video! I was watching when you made the new items go into the inventory and I think it would be nice if a pop-up appeared above the inventory button telling you how many of what item were stored :D
@ThinMatrix
@ThinMatrix 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! And yeah I agree, that's something I've been considering :)
@TangentialTif
@TangentialTif 9 ай бұрын
Always make seeing the description again an option. I have a terrible memory and would appreciate being able to see it again if I forget.
@ElianeGameDev
@ElianeGameDev 9 ай бұрын
Love this vloggy devlog! Your trip and your dish both look amazing!
@TheShelfman
@TheShelfman 9 ай бұрын
I love this! I think it would be really nice to have a button that sorts the items in some way. I love having an organized inventory in games but doing that manually would become a pain at some point. Great video😁
@reedrehg
@reedrehg 9 ай бұрын
Your trip looked amazing!
@lucbloom
@lucbloom 9 ай бұрын
Descriptions: YES. Also: the Animal Crossing shape looks fun and cosy. You can take it and file under “being inspired by” no worries.
@whitehalll
@whitehalll 9 ай бұрын
i was just talking to my partner how i want to create a cozy game, and i used this as my argument. Love watching your updates, this is looking absolutely beautiful.
@TyZo
@TyZo 9 ай бұрын
For the item descriptions it would be super useful to have in case we have gaps in between playing. Maybe you could have a hotkey to get extra info on the tooltip that contains description / max rolls for stats similar to ARPGs? Great video this week. Always excited when the notification pops up for the devlog!
@tobymoore1063
@tobymoore1063 9 ай бұрын
This is going to sound really silly, but seeing the slightest peak of runescape gives me so much confidence; i often get angry at myself for playing games instead of being productive; but seeing someone as talented as you "switch off" and have some time to chill it's a breath of fresh air :)
@SwordFishTheFish
@SwordFishTheFish 9 ай бұрын
You are such an inspiration to me! Not just as a game developer but as a human an all around person too! Thank you!
@nonlinearsound-001
@nonlinearsound-001 9 ай бұрын
Hey Karl, regarding the user interface decision about the description box. It is always a good habit, to show contextual detail info where applicable so showing it again might not make sense from a programmers mind or point of view but does for a lot of users. The reason is that, if the UI is snappy and works well, people tend to think they know and move fast across our UI but then realize that they still need the extra info at the next interaction point. So it is a nice courtesy to show it again. :) It will help your users and their acceptance level will rise. I'd say, try it out. :) If you really think, power users would be distracted by it then add an option in your UI preferences dialog as they as power users will maybe use that to disable the detail info box.
@clonkex
@clonkex 9 ай бұрын
Drag'n'drop will never cease to be one of the most fliddly things to implement, even though once you figure it out it's really not that complex.
@imjustroids3807
@imjustroids3807 9 ай бұрын
I always push for options, especially if you are stuck between design choices: If you would like your default hover behavior to just show the item title in the tooltip, that is okay. However, perhaps in an options/settings menu for UI elements provide a way to turn on "extended" tooltips or something to that effect. Let's the player decide what they'd prefer. I think being able to see a detailed description for the item is important after purchase. Great update video, can't wait for the feature/content videos!
@sky01james28
@sky01james28 9 ай бұрын
For real, I do this all the time with small, non-gameplay-changing features. Someone else has an opinion on how it should work? Add it to the config file and call it a day lol
@Marenthyu
@Marenthyu 9 ай бұрын
I'm always happy to be watching these videos, if only because they get me excited to cook myself
@beatricecapelli7634
@beatricecapelli7634 9 ай бұрын
Very good vibes from your video, as always! So motivating and chilling! For the tool tips in the inventory, I'd not put any additional info by default, but I'd rather add a small icon with a question mark that allows the player to show the additional info in a secondary panel, if needed.
@pyscrap
@pyscrap 9 ай бұрын
You are so inspiring, when I grow up, I want to be just like you. That is why I'm starting now.
@Alter_Angelus
@Alter_Angelus 9 ай бұрын
I agree with WakanaSora, if someone doesn't play for a while and comes back they might not remember the description. You could make a smaller name plate for just scrolling over an item then if you right click or tap a button it could give a whole description. Loving the game so far, been a huge fan of your work for years now
@LuminaryGames
@LuminaryGames 9 ай бұрын
For item descriptions, what I have seen in other games and I enjoy, is for mouse over to show a small mouse over (just important information). And then if you hold that for long enough, the mouse over expands to show everything.
@CodingWithUnity
@CodingWithUnity 9 ай бұрын
Been a joy watching you work the past few years
@GamesBySaul
@GamesBySaul 9 ай бұрын
Finally had a chance to watch the video! Recently moved from the UK myself to Denmark, so its been a bit hectic! Loving the UI updates, as for whether you should show descriptions, I'd personally say yes or to have another way of finding out the information somewhere, without having to go the shop, maybe like a journal or something?
@JoeTheis
@JoeTheis 9 ай бұрын
Your devlogs are a huge inspiration to me. I love your laid back style, simple editing, and the cozy feeling. I'm taking notes, as always. Developing your own UI framework has got to be the most soul-sucking aspect of this project. Any time i see you dealing with a monumental task like that, it gives me newfound motivation to tackle whatever problem I'm dealing with. As for the inventory being basic looking, I think that's fine? It's going to be filled with all kinds of colorful and interesting stuff. So maybe less is more there.
@FantaLaTone
@FantaLaTone 9 ай бұрын
adding buildings that can be upgraded like silos for inventory space will be really good, just an idea i love your devlogs
@dvnim0045
@dvnim0045 9 ай бұрын
FINALLY I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A NEW VIDEO ^_^ ! you inspired me to start learning and creating my own game engine. I've always wonder why and how you looks like you know everything while me struggling to even figure out my own obj loader :D. I will work hard so I can be like you thanks for making such a great content ^_^. Cant wait to play your new games soon ^^
@clonkex
@clonkex 9 ай бұрын
"...if you've bought it, and you own it, then you must already know what it does..." Bold of you to assume I remember what I had for breakfast let alone what an item in a game I haven't played in a week is for, lol.
@dimitrismolias9834
@dimitrismolias9834 9 ай бұрын
You are doing a great job with these Devlogs. Really enjoying them ! Keep at it :D
@mrbeanington8806
@mrbeanington8806 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely amazing work! It is insane how far you have come since I started watching you feels like forever ago now. Keep up the amazing work I cannot wait until I can play this!
@casualdutchman
@casualdutchman 9 ай бұрын
For the inventory and hotbar, I would have made it 1 array or list. The first 12 elements would always be the hotbar and after that is the inventory. This makes dragging and dropping a lot easier. Also, when dragging and dropping is implemented for the hotbar, maybe clicking an item would show it's stats and description to the right of the inventory.
@haulin
@haulin 9 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. And you can make it also visually be the same list in the UI. When you trigger the inventory button, the hot bar moves up and reveals more rows underneath it instead of a disconnected window. Maybe you don't even need boring borders around it!
@ariouz1933
@ariouz1933 9 ай бұрын
As usual, very intesresting devlog. I think that you can add a searchbar in the inventory to look for items, when you have many items, it could be easier for the player
@FineAndAndy
@FineAndAndy 9 ай бұрын
1) About the item descriptions in the popups, I think this is a very good thing and you shouldn't remove it. There are a lot of different items, so even if you knew what it did when you bought it, it might be easy to forget if you don't use it regularly. It especially makes it easier to come back to the game if you've put it down for a bit. 2) For the drag-and-drop reorganizing, I would strongly recommend against swapping positions the way you showed at 9:00. This is almost never what I want to do when I'm reorganizing things in a video game. Imagine the scenario that you've been playing for a bit and you've got items of, say, three different categories filling up several slots. You've arranged them by category in an order that you like, then you acquire a new item in the first category, so you want to put it near the front of the line. Then you have to take all the items in categories 2 and 3 and shift them to the right by 1 to make a spot (or swap positions over and over to bubble the new item from the right to the left of your inventory). I used to hate this about older Pokemon games (before they added automatic sorting to the backpack). I would put my potions of various types at the top of the list, then status items, etc. But when I'd get far enough in the game to unlock the next higher level of potion, it was annoying to rearrange the bag to group it with the rest of the potions at the top. Instead, think of the way drag-and-drop reorganizing of the pinned programs on the taskbar works, where you drag something to the position you want and it splits the current items (while maintaining their relative positions) to make room for you to drop something in. I think this fits much more naturally in a game where you'll regularly be adding new items to an otherwise already organized inventory.
@mrOverYeff
@mrOverYeff 9 ай бұрын
I know it would be a bit of a bigger change but you could make it that the hotbar is the actual inventory and then you have boxes or other storage containers that are placable, forcing the player to not have 500 items on them but choose the ones that they value to have on in the moment. This could lead well into some processing of raw resources (like carrot bread, or raps oil to fuel some machines)
@tomsteadman9544
@tomsteadman9544 9 ай бұрын
You could even make it so that the hotbar does have limited space, and you can only access more inventory slots if you buy a shed or similar from the market?
@mrOverYeff
@mrOverYeff 9 ай бұрын
​@@tomsteadman9544 you could even have specialized storage like a silo for grains and crates for veggies and the shed for tools
@match_mc114
@match_mc114 9 ай бұрын
The semi-transparent inventory was definitely the best.
@Skeffles
@Skeffles 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant progress! The inventory is coming along really nice.
@onlysmiles4949
@onlysmiles4949 9 ай бұрын
I think it's still a good idea to have item descriptions in at least some form, especially if someone hasn't played the game in a while or just wants a quick look without having to go all the way back to the shop
@eidnoxon
@eidnoxon 9 ай бұрын
Hey dude! Big fan of your content! You are so inspiring! you have been thru a lot but you didnt gave up! Have a great day!!!🎉🎉🎉
@aPhobidMc
@aPhobidMc 9 ай бұрын
I think this is called living life and I love to see it 👍
@TeaDrinkingGuy
@TeaDrinkingGuy 9 ай бұрын
I absolutely love these videos, it's like they were made specifically for me. Coding, gardening, foraging and cooking! So wonderful. It would be good to have a sorting feature in the inventory. If there are going to be as many items as you had in your showcase, it would be useful to be able to sort by type, value, recent, etc. Also, wondering about how you structure you work days - do you have an allotted time that you will stop working, or do you just go until you have had enough. I've never worked for myself, so I find it interesting how you'd structure you workday!
@mat_hood
@mat_hood 9 ай бұрын
For blank slots in inventory, maybe a ui checkbox to let the user decide if they want to have blanks removed or not. People like to organise their inventory in special ways, and having a blank can let them do that
@MarcoMontaltoMonella
@MarcoMontaltoMonella 9 ай бұрын
For the item description you could have a side panel in the inventory the same way you have it in the shop when selected with one click. And if you want to equip it in the lower bar, you could double click. Great video and work! 🎉🎉🎉
@hassanmehmood8711
@hassanmehmood8711 9 ай бұрын
You should make another channel for growing fruits and vegetables where you show your journey of growing them. I think most of us would watch your videos because it's chill and relaxing 😀
@Spidooooo
@Spidooooo 9 ай бұрын
If you plan to make the inventory infinite, I would definitely consider implementing a search bar along with a sort/filter button! Definitely would make a huge difference in QoL.
@sky01james28
@sky01james28 9 ай бұрын
100% agree, especially since mod support means it is inevitable that somebody will have too many items to manually arrange
@vomm
@vomm 3 ай бұрын
I'd say the coolest are extentable tooltips. First minimal toopltip appears after like 200ms, but if you keep the mouse hovered, after like 5s the tooltip extends and shows more info
@jojoviviator9258
@jojoviviator9258 9 ай бұрын
Definitely a yes from me on the item description in the inventory itself. It would be really annoying to come back to the game after a break from playing, having forgotten what the items do, to have to go back to the shop in order to find out.
@Elysia-vk1ys
@Elysia-vk1ys 7 ай бұрын
With dragging items in the inventory/moving them to your hotbar - maybe add an empty slot (empty grey box) to fill the currently empty spot? Love the videos
@equitime77
@equitime77 9 ай бұрын
Re the tool tips it's useful to have a reminder what it does. Especially for those of us who have memory problems for any reason.
@aenaluck
@aenaluck 9 ай бұрын
It's very good progress so far. It's worth the wait for your new Devlog.😉 Anyway, I'm so excited to know that you've been visiting to Thailand (cause I am Thai🤭) And I'm glad you were having a good time in my country!🤗
@naturalevo180
@naturalevo180 9 ай бұрын
These video's are always so calming and nice :)
@gavinrector
@gavinrector 8 ай бұрын
I think the addition of a greenhouse building would be cool. For growing tropical things like oranges, bananas, or pineapples or something. Also, farm animals please!
@br3nto
@br3nto 9 ай бұрын
Wow two years! I remember when you started this after working in the city builder game
@KestrelQ
@KestrelQ 9 ай бұрын
Rufus in a shopping cart melts my heart 🥰
@Kasiulka093
@Kasiulka093 9 ай бұрын
Some sort of sorting of inventory or even dividing inventory into different categories (tools, seeds, compost, etc.) would be useful. Great video as always!
@Allexz
@Allexz 9 ай бұрын
When i play games i LOVE when devs let me choose between modes. As here when you ask "should this always be visible?" or maybe "Should tooltips always be visible, fast or slow or instant?" Well, that is what the options menu is all about :) Perhaps an "android button" on/off in the inventory for "always show tooltip" or simply collect all the "Should i have this or that" thoughts in the options menu. If i, the player is allowed to choose these settings i feel well taken care of and thought off instead of strictly following the devs vision!
@StruC
@StruC 9 ай бұрын
I like the way Baldur's Gate does drilling down into information and explanations on screen. Some tooltips have underlined text. To hover over it, you can press "F", which keeps the last tooltip locked on screen so you can mouseover the "link" with more info behind it. Holding a modifier or having it as a setting (maybe during the tutorial) would also work.
@jumpkut
@jumpkut 9 ай бұрын
For item popups, just add a 'hold shift' modifier or something to show/hide the item description when hovering as well :)
@MojiiOkay
@MojiiOkay 9 ай бұрын
I think its a nice way to refresh people's memory if they come back after a few eeks off (tool tip decriptions), you don't lose anything from having a short single sentence descriptor, and you might lose a little from not having it so you might as well.
@WilsonFerguson
@WilsonFerguson 9 ай бұрын
One idea I have for the descriptions would be to show it in your inventory, but not in your hotbar. My thinking is that if it's already in your hotbar, you probably know what it does, but you might not know what some random item in your inventory is. Anyways, great video as always.
@astropolski
@astropolski 9 ай бұрын
For the inventory it would be neat if all the items had color coded backgrounds based on category and there was an auto sort button that organized things based on category, so you'd have sections for different things.
@MrCalls1
@MrCalls1 9 ай бұрын
12:18 hover to show pop up, then CTRL, that expands the pop up to show description. That means of the time you can avoid the clutter. But if in does you can see what it does by tapping control.
@99Xaver
@99Xaver 9 ай бұрын
I had a spontaneous idea. Maybe you like it: Maybe also add an automatic sorting of the items in the main inventory (not the hotbar) depending on their type. All tools go first. Then all seeds. Then. The products and so on. Might be helpful if the inventory is very full. That would mean that the manual sorting of the main inventory is not used but in exchange you gain some cleanliness. I think the hotbar should not stay like it is. Regarding the tooltip. I think it would be nice to have this little description. Overall very nice video. I really enjoy allyour devlogs! And the game looks very nice and calming! Keep going :)
@episcopmoo
@episcopmoo 9 ай бұрын
Please add a tiny "Lock bottom bar" button. It helps to avoid accidental dragging things when I become too excited!
@chillyvanilly6352
@chillyvanilly6352 9 ай бұрын
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@Dawnkipcat
@Dawnkipcat 9 ай бұрын
Other comments may have mentioned it, but my number one desire for any sort of inventory like this is a way to sort (by type/category/weight/value etc.) and filter (search for specific tools or items). That kind of functionality would be hugely appreciated!
@thecube3702
@thecube3702 8 ай бұрын
Just one quick suggestion. Maybe you could add a toggle switch which allows the player to keep the empty spaces in the inventory. This way you can use these empty spaces as dividers when rearranging and organizing your items. Other than that, great video! Cheers
@schwamf5
@schwamf5 9 ай бұрын
idea for the inventory: i really like how it works in factorio. there's just one defined logical order, which all the items automatically show up in. that way you never have to tediously arrange your inventory, especially when you have lots of different items in large quantities. other idea would be separate inventory tabs for tools, seeds, compost etc.
@ThinMatrix
@ThinMatrix 9 ай бұрын
Having them automatically sorted seems like a good plan, I'll try that.
@Jack_McKalling
@Jack_McKalling 9 ай бұрын
@@ThinMatrix auto-sorting is definitely nice to have, but if there are so many items in the game, it would be better to leave auto-sorting as an optional feature to the player. give them a button to turn it on or off (where if it's off, they can drag each item anywhere they want within the grid, but if on, it wouldn't allow them to rearrange), some alternative sorting algorythm options (e.g. new vs old, item count, categories, name, etc), and allow them to reverse the order. it always feels very strict and unpersonal if you have absolutely no control over where each item is (the flip-side of having auto-sort)
@BlackxesWasTaken
@BlackxesWasTaken 9 ай бұрын
People (Me included) tend to forget almost immediately what things were or what they are used for Having the description solely on in the market you need to first check the item, then know where to find it and THEN get the description If you dislike the idea of having a bigger popup you may find the idea of having something like "shift"/"alt" (Or sometimes its an option) additionally to hovering over the item interesting which reveals the description
@jerkofalltrades
@jerkofalltrades 9 ай бұрын
Another option for the descriptions could be a second right click. The first click would bring up stats, and the second click would bring up the description.
@hpphinatic
@hpphinatic 9 ай бұрын
for the item descriptions, you could have a little 'i' information button that a user can click to be reminded but otherwise they just get the stats
@janikcodes
@janikcodes 9 ай бұрын
I think you should definitely show the item description, it looked really good while also providing some more information. I'm not a garden expert therefore I would quickly forget what certain items do.
@killshotairsoft2
@killshotairsoft2 9 ай бұрын
I would suggest that, when adding an item to the inventory, the scrollbar automatically moves to put the item in view. You could do this only when adding a completely new item or also when increasing the stack of a pre-existing item. Not sure if that would get annoying to the player, but it would at least be useful when adding an item to the bottom of the inventory.
@noafro1991
@noafro1991 9 ай бұрын
The UI is looking great so far :) My suggestion about the tooltips - maybe have a toggable option in gameplay settings to show item descriptions in tooltips or not? then you give the choice to the player
@Cyclone3603
@Cyclone3603 9 ай бұрын
WOAHHH! IM SO EARLY!! Love your videos man, you're such a huge inspiration to me.
@kinsondigital
@kinsondigital 9 ай бұрын
As for the description of the items, what if you don't have the description upon hovering, but then show the description in the tool tip if you right click it. That way the user can have a choice to see the description but not have it take up so much space after they know for sure what it is. Also, that way you can have even more descriptive descriptions if you need which takes up more space, but that is ok because people have to opt-in to see it anyways. On a normal basis, it isn't an issue.
@inessousacaldas
@inessousacaldas 9 ай бұрын
Looking good!! I think it would be nice to have some kind of filter for item types or any other relevant field in the inventory. If it starts to grow a lot it will be difficult to find what the player is looking for.
@alexisbrin518
@alexisbrin518 9 ай бұрын
About the tooltip, it's always great to have one, but remember, the icon should be enough to understand what ther item is supposed to do. (blue = water, rouind = good, spikky = bad, ...)
@Hzodx
@Hzodx 9 ай бұрын
Amazing work. For the item dragging between the hotbar and the inventory what you could do is get the closest inventory spot to the mouse and make a temporary slot at that position shifting every item after it. Additionally, leave the description in there, on hover would probably be better aswell (just, not instant)
@AmfistomosAtlas
@AmfistomosAtlas 9 ай бұрын
Maybe for the rearranging of stuff in the inventory you could add some auto-arrange/auto-sort buttons, e.g. by type, by value, by quantity. As for the description of the item, either make it configurable, or display it all together. It doesn't harm. If you are a returning player and forgot what this tool does, and the description is absent, you will have to travel to the shop, find the item and read the description there.
@socio637
@socio637 9 ай бұрын
idk how often you get this, but I really think you should revisit that RPG you were working on 8-10 years ago. I still go back and watch those videos from time to time. it's so cool how you were able to make a game like that in java
@AlexMerlin1985
@AlexMerlin1985 9 ай бұрын
For the inventory I would implement tabs because when there are too many items in the inventory, it might become difficult to find the item you're looking for. Opening the inventory shows always the first tab where players can find all the items (this is already implemented). Other tabs could be "Seeds", "Composts", "Tools" etc... Moving items between inventory tabs is not needed. But, moving items from an inventory tab to the inventory bar would probably work with your current implementation.
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