AMD WINS GAMING! Ryzen 9000 X3D Performance & Date Confirmed

[@alentanor]

In short: Not announced, teased and the release date is 7 November 2024 The price cut is 50USD for the 9950x, and 30USD for everything else.

[@christophermullins7163]

If you use 32 threads for work.. 9950x in insane rn

[@alentanor]

@@christophermullins7163 It is indeed insane. But if you didn't buy it yet, and you're in that line of work for a while that mean you either have a 7950x or 13/14 gen{Hoping that thing is still breathing} With just a week to 15900k{285k}, and probably a month to the 9950x3d, I'd still rather wait. {Currently on a dying 13900f, and a secondary 5600x setup.., still waiting for that 9950x3d so I can both work and game.}

[@nightspiderx1916]

Thx. Too many copy & paste useless videos on youtube nowadays

[@SARCASTIKKism]

The chapter selections list them all as Zen 4 X3D

[@FO0TMinecraftPVP]

Intel is better + COPE

[@themarketgardener]

@@FO0TMinecraftPVPBruh you again, even with Arrow Lake intel is behind in gaming so shut yo goofy ahh up

[@Mixxels]

@@FO0TMinecraftPVPcope

[@FO0TMinecraftPVP]

@@Mixxels COPE YOUR COPE

[@Stardomplay]

​@@FO0TMinecraftPVP COPE YOU COPING HIS COPE 😡

[@_Kaurus]

Computer Marketing, every single generations, "do what you already do, in the exact same way that you have always done it, but do so much more better now that the tool you use to do those things is 0-2.5% more better."

[@FireCestina1200]

Take literal hardware. Compare against other literal hardware. Analyse the difference. Test them in real world. If the % difference is lower than when you compared the hardware by their specs. It's the software/OS/application who's bad/unoptimized/Killing your performance. And not your hardware being bad. And sometimes it's just the hardware being badly set. The best examples are the 9700X and the 7800XT. 9700X tuned (no extreme or hard OC) beat the 7800X3E in gaming. And crush it in productivity. 7800XT boost clock is 2430MHz And memory bandwidth is 624,128Gb/s Perfectly stable OC is ±2580-2680MHz (can be higher based on the model) Memory bandwidth stable is 654,084Gb/s. Outperforming a stock 4070 Super in raster. Beating world record overclocking 4070 in raster. And beating stock 4070 in ray tracing. For windows 11 23H2 to 24H2. When you have some game gaining +50% performance with an update. What do you call it. Bad CPU ? Or bad OS ? When you have a random guy making a FSR3.0 mod better looking than FSR3.0 official release on Cyberpunk. What do you call it ? Bad upscaler or stupid developer (same developer who wasn't even able to put the latest FSR neither the latest XeSS it's to say how dumb he/she or they were when they did it)

[@Zorro33313]

That's any marketing in capitalism cuz that's the whole point of capitalism - making profits the easiest way possible.

[@alilokhd4638]

It's rumoured that Arrow Lake has the same terrible imc as meteor lake. Hence, why arrow lake got terrible bench results. Also, Beast Lake got cancelled, which was going to be a beast in terms of gaming and productivity workloads

[@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt]

Not really sure gaming was ever in doubt was it? Intel's best option was an 8+24 or 8+32 then it could have at least won productivity.

[@thereddog223]

Not enough bandwidth

[@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt]

@@thereddog223 I would be interested to see how limiting bandwidth is for the vast majority of productivity tasks as you scale cores. Intel already has quite a lead over AMD on raw bandwidth so probably most scope for more cores until we need to more to quad-channel.

[@ChristianHowell]

I don't know what's gonna end up faster but I wish, AMD could have convinced Sony to let them have an RDNA4 APU for laptop... AMD finally said UDNA which means more advanced chiplet structures... But anyway, with the free 20-30% increase with the new AGESA and Win11 24H2 9000X3D will be 40-60% faster than 5000X3D... OUCH...

[@fredsorre6605]

It can't be much of a win if the opponent is not putting up a fight Intel's first primary product using their version of Chiplets isn't very good I know their version is more complex and is better over all yada yada but this is like their Zen1 product good enough for a first release but still needs a Generation or two to before they could get the hang of making them. I still feel that Intel's design is not as good as its being made up to be and that most of the efficiency gains is cause of TSMC's better node and not because of Intel's chip design.

[@asmongoldsmouth9839]

*Maybe this time AMD will beat Intel in ALL gaming titles. Not just 30% of them. Everyone thought the 7800X3D beat the 14700K in all games. Incredibly wrong assumption. In AAA titles, the 7800X3D only beat the 14700K in 30% of them and almost matched it in the other 70%.* *May the 9800X3D will beat the 14700K in 100% of AAA game titles.* *Not that I care. I just like to see competition. Intel's ULTRA CPUs are trash.*

[@Unstator]

I prefer my cpus that don't over heat and brick, you know, like intel.

[@jondonnelly3]

I would argue that X3D makes no bloody difference in 4k gaming even on 4090.

[@J.king87]

​@@jondonnelly3 5090 it does on 4k

[@MetalexoAlberto]

Putting a comment in bold cannot disguise a lie. You put your percentages the wrong way round. Nobody in their right mind thought the 14700K and the rest of that generation was any good. Even in the imaginary event that a 14700K was slightly faster in every game, it used 2-3x the amount of power. It was wildly inefficient.

[@brendanhuffman1339]

​@@MetalexoAlberto I can tell you haven't used an intel cpu. I've used a 14900k and 7800x3d, and intel wins in performance by far. However, the 9000x3d chips look like they will out perform intel a lot this time. Quit believing all the fanboys on youtube, please.

[@aquilarossa5191]

A price cut for vanilla? Don't say that! I just bought a 9950X. Oh well. I have been procrastinating on installing it though. I do not enjoy building like I used to a couple of decades ago or so. It's easy enough, but what is making me drag my arse getting it done is reinstalling all my audio workstation software and plugins etc. That's a really big job. I have been thinking of trying to trick the current install into booting up without a full reinstall, but I expect it would cause issues (I could trick it into thinking it's an OS refresh, or I could do the generalize install Sysprep thing). Hopefully Bill Gates does not ask me for a new activation key. I'd have to visit the video sponsor for one - yet again.

[@AnticipatedHedgehog]

Price cut for 9000 series should have had more 3 digit numbers if they actually want people to buy them. Maybe a larger cut before the holidays

[@nipa5961]

AMD is only competing with themselves. There will be price cuts once Zen 4 sold through.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

X3D will save zen 5 just like it saved zen 3,4

[@lynackhilou4865]

Zen 3 was good from the get go and zen 4 was good but overpriced at launch . But yeah x3d seems like it will be the saving grace of zen 5

[@nipa5961]

Sadly nothing saved 13th and "14th" gen.

[@Aerobrake]

zen 3 and 4 were already good imo, but X3D just made it way better, Zen 5 is just not a significant jump from 4 but 5X3D should be nice especially from my defective 13700K

[@GoodnotGreat88]

Not sure either of those needed saving. AMD has been dominant in CPUs for awhile now

[@1Grainer1]

now we should wait for 4070TI Super Solid Deluxe, is short, 4070TI SSD

[@Shuttterbugg]

No the 5090 sense 2 months finishing qs then a limited productikn on the 90 cards 2 months after that in january..that maked perfect sense

[@sjargo11]

Since when is anouncing a release date, "Hinting a release date"? XD

[@christophermullins7163]

The bit about leading you uo the stack remind me of nvidia with the vram. everyone would have jumped on a $600 16gb 4070 but instead you nearly double that to get any more ram.

[@lyteness859]

No, the release date is October 23rd to 25th, November 7th is when you can actually buy it, AMD is trying to beat the date of Arrow lake sale date and release the 9800x3d ahead of it

[@kr00tman]

I already thought the 5090 was going to be instantly oos, its going to launch as the best value ai gpu ever....if your guess is correct and its a small initial production run so they have something to announce at ces...oh boy

[@JayUEVR]

PC noob here, is there any chance the Nvidia 5000 series GPUs will have an updated version of DLSS beyond what exists in the current generation?

[@GoodnotGreat88]

If there's a new version of DLS, all cards that can run it will get a driver update. DLSS is not specific to the generation of the card.

[@colinbrydon7659]

Numerous rumour’s of an updated dlss 4.0 coming soon, whether it coincides with the 5 series release who knows.

[@MetalexoAlberto]

@@GoodnotGreat88 Wasn’t DLSS 3 exclusive to the 4000 series?

[@gabrielv.4358]

We dont need that

[@gabrielv.4358]

I am waiting to see the iGPU going strong against a 2050!

[@disclaimer4211]

they shouldve said up to 100 dollars off for the 9950x, for 450 dollars the 9950x would be an insane deal. Also if this is true... this is the second time where a zotac card is in a leaked photo of a next gen Nvidia card. this also happened to the RTX 4090.

[@spankeyfish]

Zotac are the anointed production line leakers 😆

[@NeoDon1]

Buying a Gen5 drive for new X870e Build on MSI Carbon Wifi, I already have a 2tb Samsung 980 Pro Gen4. Which should I make the boot and which one for the games to be stored on? Thanks

[@TheCivicsiep3]

gen 4 for boot gen 5 for games. the gen 5 wont be any faster for boot times tbh

[@Matt___B]

it really depends on the size of the Gen 5. as far as loading times / boot times, dont bother comparing Gen 4 to 5, we're talking about tenths of a second here. if ur not some kind of video editor working with massive files, and often moving these files to different folders, there is no benefit to 1 over the other for regular users really if ur Gen 5 is smaller then 2TB use it for windows and programs / apps, and main game files on 980. Or if Gen 5 is bigger, do it the other way around.

[@catninjawang794]

990pro has similar or faster speed than many gen5, with relatively less heat. It is more about the size, like others mentioned.

[@naegleriafowleri2230]

Only dumb geeks buy gen 5 😂

[@Trikie77]

hey Redgaming tech do you think that AMD is going to build a bigger Halo strix then 40 Compute unit it seem to slow vs that is coming out vs proberly the price will be high??

[@Trunka34]

Those leaked images show that it's running on Windows 22h2 which seems odd as it's old af

[@stvarnonevjerovatno3700]

Good to know it was already released 11th of July this year.

[@Aerobrake]

Excited for the 9800X3D. My 13700K is so cooked 💀

[@gabrielv.4358]

im glad you woke up. Intel is still bad. sadly. i loved it also

[@normative1058]

was waiting for this big ups mate!

[@juniormynos9457]

I'm guessing it will likely have more efficiency improvement and not much uptick in gaming performance

[@nossy232323]

None X3D Zen 5 had almost no efficiency improvement, so I doubt it.

[@nipa5961]

I guess it will have the same power draw and about 10% more performance.

[@Mark_cheapskate]

The Cinabench score for the 9800X3d sucks.

[@OwMyLiver]

Cinebench scores for X3Ds always suck. Not what it's made for.

[@laszlozsurka8991]

10:59 that name just gave me a migraine...

[@n1c2c8]

In a couple of years it will just become the same as Amazon/AliExpress SEO word cloud “Zotac Nvidia Geforce RTX 6080 AI Graphics Gaming Extreme Max Super for GPT Warzone Very Fast Ultra 12K Fast Peformance Efficiency 2026 Professional”

[@Fetrovsky]

So they're testing their testing equipment with an existing, known graphics cars.

[@tomaskianicka3343]

Aren't those zen5?

[@ThaexakaMavro]

yes

[@Nanobits]

These companies are focused on selling little for a lot. How long can they keep this up in wrecked economy era

[@Unstator]

I will let the first gen 9000 CPU work out the bugs and get one next xmas

[@CARLOSRUIZ-pe3mo]

ill start to build with the 9800x3d and later if the 9950xd his better ill buy that

[@terrycorkum]

Price cuts? All the x3ds just shot up in price.

[@srdjanobradovic4780]

I cant resist, when you make so many lapsus linguae ,it s so funny,honestly,you are one of the best youtubers..anyway,keep it.Pozdrav!

[@jipillow1]

I have a friend with the last name Huynh. He pronounces it “Win”

[@gsestream]

turn RTX on to get more pixels

[@fracturedlife1393]

an impressive 3.4 BPM* *basically's per minute

[@jhonatanpereira2552]

ZEN 4?

[@Serandi1987]

Who the hell would have doubted it??😂

[@Eli9A]

you mean AMD won this year's battle. war is forever and war is won when one company dies.

[@nipa5961]

Well, Intel didn't even have working CPUs for two generations...

[@Eli9A]

@@nipa5961 yet, we all know intel is not a cpu company so the money was not coming from making cpu's. you need an architecture to the technology and to have path you need investment in scientist and equipment

[@jondonnelly3]

When one company dies, all customers lose. You get a monopoly. Taking turns at winning battles is winning the only war that counts... On prices.

[@gabrielv.4358]

@@nipa5961 yep

[@jondoe9596]

I don't game in 1080p so I could care less for the 9800X3D. NVIDIA needs to hurry tf up with their 5000 series so I can finally give this 2080 down to my nephew.

[@XeqtrM1]

You probably won't see a 5090/5080 until end of January to early February

[@Unstator]

@@XeqtrM1 probably till end of 2025 when all the scalpers supplies run out and you can get it at a decent price.

[@vanhalen7856]

And you clearly don't understand why 1080p is the best way to show which cpu is the strongest.

[@jondoe9596]

@@vanhalen7856 What does your comment even have to do with what I said? Everyone knows 1080p is CPU land... But that doesn't matter to people who games in 4K now does it?

[@vanhalen7856]

@jondoe9596 It will matter with new generations of GPU. That's the only thing holding back CPUs at higher resolutions. CPU is not affected by resolution. It will perform same at any only thing why you see similar results at higher resolutions is that we don't have strong enough GPUs yet to get full potential of CPUs at higher resolutions. So yeah getting better CPU today means you'll get better results when new GPUs comes out in the near future to anyone willing to upgrade.

[@Sl1ck_maxzzz]

Not really because intel ain't bought out there ks range yet

[@matejunsagris]

no offence , i know where keys sold even in 1 digit price . and always wondering why Microsoft allow this happening . i use these keys to avoid struggle with hacked key generators etc . and if client refuse buy key for few bucks i refuse install and or fix pc . thanks for content as always like your way

[@jordanbuhler9442]

Fake, leaker said "cinnabon" we all know its "cinebench"

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

*Can we PLEASE forget about GAY TRACING ?! Just use that space for more RASTER !* As an gamer, I really don't NEED, or even WANT Ray Tracing !!!

[@gabrielv.4358]

As a gamer I dont want any things like that also. Frame generation also messed with the game optimization real bad

[@IHazPeppers]

Give me unlimited power!!!!

[@kaiser76]

in the same time of PS5pro launch more misunderstod happened

[@kkrolik2106]

Free comment for range incrase

[@kaizer-777]

Basically.

[@ThaexakaMavro]

X3D zen 5 *

[@iequalsnoob]

Omg AMD wins at 1080p gaming. Congrats. Too bad no one who games at 1080p use a 4090 so there's zero necessity to buy an "x3d" chip.

[@x_DeadPixels_x]

Except a lot of people do play at 1080p 🤷‍♂️

[@J.king87]

​@@x_DeadPixels_x really ? Maybe in africa they still do

[@gabrielv.4358]

@@J.king87 stop being racist and misogenous. not everyone needs or wants more than 1080p

[@_RPGamerz]

What you thinking type here 👇

[@CRF250R1521]

AMD trash

[@attepatte8485]

7800x3d was ahead of its time, gpus are becoming hella fast

[@ukgunit001]

5.6 ghz wtf 😬

[@stevensmith6445]

This won't be enough to open the neck on this bottle.

[@kieran9882]

Arnie is better than Sly imo

[@_Kaurus]

I miss my 4090, hurry up with the 5090!

[@FJano12]

Yeah man.

[@diseasex]

That amd boss looks like trans version of nvidia boss xD

[@dave-bennett]

so your sponsor is an illegal software key vender and you obviously support it, how can anyone take anything you say seriously

[@Unstator]

Whats illegal about it

[@dave-bennett]

@@Unstator you really need to ask that question - sheesh - With the exception of Product Key Cards (PKC's) distributed with COA's [Certificates of Authentcity], Microsoft does not distribute products keys as standalone products. If you see a listing on a site, online classified ad, or other online page advertising product keys for sale, it's a good indication that the keys are stolen or counterfeit.

[@tombach7670]

First

[@testertester4968]

Intel wins. AMD loses again.

[@gabrielv.4358]

Intel never won lmao

[@donw4889]

Intel core ultra 9 x3 cache 2/1/25 Intel wins

[@FO0TMinecraftPVP]

Intel is still FAR superior than amd

[@nossy232323]

Yes, winter is coming and they heat up the room much better!!!

[@FO0TMinecraftPVP]

@@nossy232323 Intel has better cooling

[@onsh]

I like gaming on PC because I love having problems to overcome. Those 14900 blue screens really float my boat.

[@FO0TMinecraftPVP]

@@onsh The issue is fixed already. Sit down bro

[@stevensmith6445]

Copium

[@paulboyce8537]

RUMORS RUMORS. GOSSIP. Next week it will all change. 170W vs 250W (295W). I think it is pretty clear.

[@impuls60]

1.25V on the core, thats a massive wattage jump.

[@paulboyce8537]

@@impuls60 There is lot more to it. REBAR/E Cores for AMD/Nvidia GPU +-5% making it zero zilch nada to have single task from P Cores to feed the GPU. CPU has very small impact and biggest difference you see if you run 4090 for 1080p that you would never do outside testing/comparison. But that said RAM speed has a good impact and CUDIMM up to 10000 speed and over will have a boost 10-15% compared. AMD don't support CUDIMM. Arrow Lake given specs from the slides 250W and memory speed 6500 is very under powered and rated. There are information already putting the extreme at 295W for the 285K. Also E Cores are overclockable by 1000MHz boosting this CPU to heights never seen before. Hence no Hyper-Threading Technology making it easier to pair GPU/CPU. Z890 with PCIe 5.0 and selected motherboards extra 8 pin power to give 150W boost/buffer via PCIe and direct unrestricted lane to CPU pairing "REBAR on steroids" if you wish to give unhindered pairing for GPU/CPU. Doesn't take much to see that Arrow Lake is tailor made for INTEL ARC architecture. APO 10-50% gain. 250-295W (285K) + 250-275W (Battlemage Xe2) = 500-570W of combined performance. Xe vs Xe2 is 50% gain. Predicted clock speed for Battlemage is 3000mhz if not more from alchemist 2400mhz (boost) to give a good lift also. This already looks better than 5080 (400W). Point is Arrow Lake, CUDIMM, PCIe 5.0 direct to CPU and Battlemage. It is obvious that INTEL hasn't revealed all because when you see the big picture as I put it there is huge potential.