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[@AncientSlugThrower]

Red dragons are canonically Chaotic Evil in Dungeons and Dragons. I expect to see your dice, DM Screen and Player's Handbook on my desk by the end of the week, Mike.

[@ericfuchs123]

Jeremy Irons knew that in ten years an entire cottage industry would exist of movie critics mocking shitty films. He was just helping stimulate the economy with his performance.

[@DanceySteveYNWA]

He had a castle 🏰 to pay for

[@bud389]

I mean, that was already kind of a thing by the time he was in this movie. There was MST3K, late-night cult showings of renowned terrible movies, and I believe the Golden Raspberry Awards, which had been around for 20 years up to that point.

[@hulktopf5031]

Jeremy irons saved the movie. He knew what kind of movie he was part of

[@sir0nion]

7:31 Mike says 'Rankin/Bass', but on an episode of Best of the Worst in the intro Rich mentions 'Rankin/Bass', among other things, and Mike says he says no idea what ANY of those things are, but it sounds like here, he's knowledgeable about Rankin/Bass! My Hack Fraud meter is off the charts!

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

His alcoholism and dementia prevent him from retaining any long-term memory that doesn't pertain directly to _Star Trek._

[@ElArto95]

either he was too ashamed of knowing what Rankin/Bass was, or he was drunk

[@Hoganply]

@@ElArto95 Feigning ignorance to make Rich seem like an embarrassing dork seems most likely.

[@frankmerker630]

Next he’s gonna tell us he knows who Bill Gaines and EC Comics are

[@caucasoidape8838]

and he says Flight of Dragons is a poorly made cartoon? compared to what?

[@BlazingOwnager]

Fun fact: This almost WAS big. The studio *turned down* James Cameron directing after his pitch. lol.

[@nyyfandan]

This only came out only a few months before Fellowship of the Ring. That's absolutely wild to me.

[@Crichjo32]

By the same film company no less. You couldn't make it up XD

[@matthayward7889]

I genuinely enjoyed the DnD cartoon back in the day.

[@DanceySteveYNWA]

Venger was Badass

[@INJUMAN101]

Same

[@r.l.royalljr.3905]

I *almost* watched this movie in the theater. I started watching it and got about 20 minutes in when suddenly the dragons attacking the city started happening all while everything was upside down. Turns out somebody spliced a reel in not only at the wrong time, but also in the wrong direction. So they had to shut down that screen all day while the projectionist fixed the film and I had to go up to the ticket office to get my money back and figure out what to do with the rest of my day.

[@CastlesForEyes]

A lucky escape then

[@bezahltersystemtroll5055]

what did you do with the rest of your day?

[@Hoganply]

@@bezahltersystemtroll5055 Whatever it was, it was more enjoyable than the movie, I'm sure.

[@RingStudios]

No comments on Mike saying they were “rolling the dice” on their pay?

[@thundarrisaboss2725]

flight of dragons was awesome. great story and concept. that classic rankin-bass art design. and the voice acting is amazing. john ritter, harry morgan, and james earl jones(in one of his best performances, imo)!

[@Stockmuncher]

Purple guy gets his sleeve caught on the door 3:32

[@calebcarlcrouch]

The sudden killing off of Marlon Wayans does make sense as a "D&D" thing though. Unintentional PK in what the DM thought would be an easy encounter, sounds pretty much like D&D to me. lol

[@Chronische]

It's what happens when the party splits, especially the lone thief who is terrible at combat, and they get caught!

[@Iamafishproductions]

The fact that blue-lipped guy takes so much time toying with Marlon's character before killing him smacks of the DM desperately trying to give the party time to rescue him, and eventually resigning to the fact none of them are going to do anything.

[@crhkrebs]

Jeremy Irons didn’t just buy a house, he bought Killcoe Castle and had to make it liveable.

[@Stongna_Bologna]

The more Jay talks about his formative years, the more I think we're witch mountain twins.

[@alexandermacdonald1639]

I LOVE Flight of Dragons. Watched it like a hundred times as a kid. Had it on VHS, taped off cable tv

[@Diggnuts]

It does have a proper actual Doctor Who in it though!

[@Silver-rx1mh]

Yep, dear old Tom sporting pointed ears. Who would have thunk it! LOL

[@ourkeving]

I love his line, "You use magic, we ARE magic". So wonderfully cheesy.

[@snuke37]

They actually mention that in the full commentary.

[@dcanmore]

Dungeons and Dragons had a budget of $45m but looks like $10m on the screen.

[@Goose_Willis]

I saw this at the theater and I loved it. I still love it. Total guilty pleasure.

[@trtx84]

Here's your premise, for better or worse: Medieval heroes find a treasure that resembles dice. They drop them at the same time a bunch of kids in modern time find them and roll them (mistaking them for dice) and the two groups become linked. So now you've got the kids/DM playing the game and the heroes (knowingly or not) being forced to act it out. This includes situations where rules arguments at the table are reflected in the medieval world etc etc. That's my premise. Build your movie around it.

[@theotherLewbowski]

The D n D cartoon was the best🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽

[@deadpoolguy283]

Langella even once said that Skeletor is his favorite role. As bad as the movie was Langella was a great Skeletor IMO and his scenes were the best thing about the movie

[@burner9147]

The flight of dragons is flawless masterpiece.

[@GregorBarclay]

Rich's pitch for a D&D movie is pretty solid tbh.

[@ggeethird]

I was thinking the same thing and was wondering if anyone else said the same. His idea would have probably made a really entertaining movie with great potential!

[@DecimusEX]

You guys 100% described "The gamers"

[@BlazingOwnager]

I'm totally with Jay. This movie is hilarious to watch. This is definitely the top tier, cream of the crop bad. The good kind.

[@BlazingOwnager]

@woooudo * Citation Needed

[@BlazingOwnager]

@woooudo Yeah, honestly, I am saying that. Peter Jackson and his drive/vision for the project is pretty much the only reason it ended up good. No studio on Earth looks at a flop and learns the right lessons from their mistakes. If anything, it probably nearly killed LOTR in the crib. They usually double down; if a film with certain genre or elements fails, they become skittish towards that genre even if it's obvious that wasn't the issue.

[@BlazingOwnager]

@woooudo Honestly you seem to be the one basing this entirely on feelings. If there's a commentary out there that states this I'd love to hear it, but I've never seen a scrap of evidence that this was in anyway a learning experience for them.

[@BlazingOwnager]

@woooudo You have heard the feelings over facts things and are throwing it around without even understanding what it means. You are stating 'X happened so Y must have happened' on a feeling, then calling it a fact, and anything that disputes your feeling you discount as a fact. Until you have some evidence all you've provided for facts is that you think a certain thing happened based on another thing. PS: Don't attack others as pseudo-intellectual while you aren't even capable of writing a paragraph without several misspellings and wannabe deep ramblings, it makes you look kind of stupid. Scratch that - really, really stupid.

[@ButtersTheGreat1]

I only seen this movie once, and it was from a rip on KZbin the only think I remember was the scene with the dwarves speaking dwarfish and for some reason the subtitles were polish

[@dankyjoker]

Rich Evans makes me feel funny.

[@kane4013]

Do you have a funny feeling in your tummy❓ …five points to know the lyric

[@thesnorg1442]

aids?

[@JordanGingold]

In the pants?

[@Buttington_Headerson]

It's called sexual arousal.

[@dankyjoker]

@@Buttington_Headerson The doctor called it herpes, but ok.

[@dogsbark5750]

Saw it in theaters. I have never seen more booms in anyother movie release.

[@rosecitystud1908]

Love these commentary tracks. Don't always have the movie you guys watch on hand so having the condensed versions is awesome.

[@JM_-ix7yh]

you don't have to watch the movies along with them, most of the commentary tracks are them just chatting.

[@benjones1717]

I think you'll find the blue lips are the highlight of this movie.

[@splam]

Random Trivia: Thora Birch is the daughter of porn actors, Jack Birch and Carol Connors. Connors achieved fame in the 1972 film Deep Throat.

[@devilsummoner2163]

Carol Cannors straight up names her daughter after her porn

[@aaronj235]

The perfect DnD movie you're describing is "the Gamers: Dorkness Rising" which you need to see if you haven't

[@HarryH987]

Does the sun at 0:08 shine from two sides? or are there actually two suns in this universe which are at one time in a perfect position to create these lights?

[@sir0nion]

It takes place on Sturr, which is Lemro,'s aka Alien Private Eye's home planet, in which there are 10 suns.

[@Hoganply]

@@sir0nion Their laws force them to fornicate outside, that's why it's only slightly better than the worst agony.

[@bad72690]

Idk if I heard their commentary before or not but Jay is dead on about the tone change and murder of Waynes' character. I was 10 when I saw this in theaters and I hadn't really seen much violent stuff in films yet. Cut to this dude getting his arm snapped, and then slaughtered. I cried profusely and we had to leave the theater.

[@Raeprim]

1:42 that's a dexter's lab episode.

[@CaptainTae]

People that think they want Marlon Wayans as Robin need to watch this movie.

[@evansn79]

Holy shit flight of dragons! I saw that film hundreds of times and it was only a few years ago i learned that the themesong was written and sung by Don McLean.

[@Xantheus07]

I would make it a Rated R trilogy based modules. That way we can follow our party from level 1 to 15.

[@golgarisoul]

I literally told a friend that I would never watch the D&D movie, and then the next day the RLM commentary track came out and I HAD to watch that flaming pile of sewage refuse not just once, but twice! Once so I could hear the audio and the second time with the RLM commentary track.

[@shioq.]

the dwarf is the same height as everyone else

[@matthayward7889]

That blue lipstick tho

[@LastSamurai80]

All this has made me do is want to watch re-runs of the Crystal maze...

[@bosmeriosmosis215]

I understand 100 % why this video was re uploaded.

[@ddespair]

Flight of dragons is a must watch! It's almost great and if it was remade today it could really explore some interesting issues.

[@ddd75qwasd]

I forgot the little princess was in this movie and I thought they kept cutting to footage from ‘Neverending Story’ 😂

[@urdnal]

0:52 My cat when he sees the neighbour's outdoor cat in the backyard.

[@sponsorskipman1971]

I thought the original video got deleted and reuploaded but it was just uploaded from another KZbinr like 3 months ago.

[@bradido]

I saw this movie at a special screening there was swag. The swag? Blue lipstick with the D&D logo on it. I am 100% serious.

[@AxelMcFly42]

Corridor's VFX Artists React should totally talk about this movie!

[@TheWorldRenownedHistorian]

Rich's idea for "people playing a D&D game and cutting into the world of the game based on their decisions" exists, and they're good! Check out the "gamers" movies by Matt vancil and dead gentlemen productions, free on KZbin last I checked

[@CastlesForEyes]

This film should be on Best of the Worst, it's that bad

[@garym6315]

This is clearly a SyFy channel made-for-TV movie that somehow got a cinema release.

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

Loved flight of dragons as a kid. And is a far better film than this. James earl jones voiced the evil wizard

[@theoriginalcheebamech]

Tom Baker as an elf

[@smaakjeks]

8:47 - "One year away from LOTR!" omg

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

Funny thing is, a high level mage would reck the wyrm armada.

[@MichaelS-jk8tj]

I wonder if red letter media has ever seen Gamers 2 Dorkness Rising

[@willardfasto4494]

I have even better....I saw double dragon in the theater

[@Fardawg]

The only thing dumber than this movie is Jay comparing making a movie out of D&D to making one out of Battleship.

[@Zero_Ninety]

How has Jay not seen the 80's Dungeons and Dragons cartoon? That show was great.

[@sleepinglionarchives]

I, too, saw it in a theater. I thought the brunette love interest lady was hot. She showed up in Sliders as the female Quinn. On folks being sucked into D&D games, ever try UnEpic?

[@Tinman_GG]

So rich basically wants to make a dnd movie like that new jumanji

[@Tinman_GG]

Update they said it lol

[@UnitSe7en]

How did none of them even mention Tom Baker?!?!?!

[@breezingby2611]

Jay does, it’s not in this compilation

[@spockswanson1246]

Please have Anthony Cumia on for best of the worst!!! He's a huge fan of RLM and a radio/comedy legend. He put out a video recently talking about how he thinks RLM don't like him but I think they would all get on swimmingly. Would be the collab of the century for me. Like seeing Wolverine and Batman chug beers and shoot the shit. Lets make this happen boys!

[@Spikeelsucko]

Opie and Anthony are legends of radio comedy, but they're also kinda both pieces of shit that need each other to be worth a goddamn and RLM probably doesn't want to tie themselves to the S.S. Cumia in the off chance he does some more edgy racist shit afterward.

[@Spikeelsucko]

oh and before you think of me as a hater, Andrew Dice Gay might be one of the funniest things done by any living human being

[@thepunchableface1506]

Don't play this video backwards at 33 rpm.

[@NathanielSelby]

The only reason I watched this movie was Tom Baker was in the trailer... then he had 2 lines in the movie... I was quite disappointed.

[@thisisfyne]

Isn't this a re-upload?! Or another channel already tackled this?

[@brotherbisquick]

How does Christopher Irons keep getting work?

[@cheeseburgerkid1329]

Perhaps with the popularity of Game of Thrones future writers, directors and actors will know what serious fantasy looks like.

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

Lets hide season 5 onwards then.. .

[@bc7138]

It's strange to think that there was a gap of about 11 years between this film and the first season of GoT. By comparison next year will mark 11 years since GoT started. Time flies.

[@zipzipzommin4329]

You're not going to sink this.... Game of Thrones...

[@kane4013]

I want to escape Afghanistan so I can watch RLM ♥️

[@BizVlogs]

Okay 👌

[@DanceySteveYNWA]

Are you not, ahem, Abel to leave?

[@feebypeels2883]

Use a VPN?

[@wokerdomelamestream4647]

You, are too kind.

[@kukuruzzo]

Flight of Dragons is great

[@Parasiteve]

i watched this because i too liked D&D and i was so dissapointed lol. i agree with rich's idea for a D&D movie. it would have to be kind of self aware because in D&D anything can happen and i can see the characters in a situation but need something or want to do something weird and they have to stop and talk to the DM about it in the real world part and we go back to the characters and they're just sitting there waiting while the real players discuss lol. it takes forever for anyone to make their move in a battle. everyone takes like 10-15 min to decide what to do. unless you're smart and while that person is doing that you look up what you wanna do but then you also have to make sure its not what the person who is going is going to do. TLDR: dont make a D&D movie unless you've played it.

[@BitBanger41]

Seriously, what happened to Justin Whalin? He just up and disappeared...

[@GotoMaki4Micah]

he retired from acting in 2009. he worked in an arts/acting school. last i knew he was a principal.

[@jasonpavlich8579]

Jay, showing his young age, never experienced the Saturday morning cartoon...🤣

[@DeepEye1994]

5:15 the costume looks as if it's made in shitty CGI

[@WrangleMcDangle]

1:04 well that aged poorly

[@28kiriku]

hahaha What would I give to run a game with RLM as players, booze and dice baby hahahahha :D ....

[@downrightsuperb5690]

So this movie is pre-9/11?

[@widdershins5383]

This is my bad movie standard lol I mean, they fucking kill the comedic relief lol it was bad, but after that it gets worse! It’s amazing!! Lol although the sequel was oddly much better, though that went straight to dvd obviously lol

[@Masteroftheweb]

I actually liked the 2nd D&D movie. I thought it was pretty good, all told. Heaps better than this one.

[@lawrenceschuman5354]

Rich, you wanted them to make Cloak & Dagger?

[@DTM-Books]

Hey, Tom Baker's in this movie! Why aren't these guys talking about the fact that Tom Baker is in this awful movie?

[@someonesomething6336]

D&D in and of itself has no story, its just rules for playing pretend why the fuck would you make a movie out of it

[@fredleggett923]

I really wish these guys would watch another reviewer's take on films like D&D, like Cecil from GBF, before just tearing into them without any production knowledge. I know it's RLM's schtick to almost unilaterally savage films, but the director actually put a LOT of time and energy into this project and it doesn't look nearly as bad as RLM claims it is given when it was made. And no mention of Tom Baker? Really? Do these guys have ANY nerd credit? Also, there are two sequels, not just one. The third movie is a little tough to source, but it's out there.

[@Fardawg]

"...it doesn't look nearly as bad as RLM claims it is given when it was made." Yes it does look that bad. This came out 7 years after Jurassic Park, a year after TPM, a year before FOTR and looks like garbage. Everyone knew at the time that it looked terrible (I was there). If this garbage script and directing is what the director puts out after putting "a LOT of time and energy" into a project, I can see why he hasn't done much since. You can't blame all of this on production problems. I've seen interviews with him and he was clearly in WAY over his head and had no idea what to do.

[@Buttington_Headerson]

This is one of those infamously bad movies that I just completely forgot about. I forget about it every year and I'm constantly reminded by videos like these, but then I just forget again

[@bud389]

You know, I never realized this, but Dungeons and Dragons literally just copies the entire plot of The Phantom Menace. -Young girl who's part of the senate -Evil big bad guy pretending to be good opposing her in senate -Wants her to relinguish control to empower his takeover -Goofy side-kick that makes awful jokes and generally screws things up for the protagonist -Evil henchman with a dark and mysterious background who acts as the rogue agent of the big bad evil senate guy -Big battle at the end

[@woodgatejack]

That's what I thought- "The Phantom Menace- the school play"

[@MatthewMk27]

It's like poetry

[@zacharyjochumsen9677]

​@@woodgatejack or dragon wars thd winged ,menace carding to som guy on IMDb

[@dimitreze]

the cartoon was amazing it's hugely popular here in Brazil

[@phantomfire8228]

3:10

[@0oidiedinatimemachineo024]

i love how over the top jeremy irons is in this movie lol

[@pst5345]

Rick's idea exists already: The Gamers

[@PMCollectorAdam]

Can’t believe Jay had never seen the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon series?! How could he have not watched this as a kid?!

[@Chipiliro613]

It didn't have enough weird sex stuff so...

[@vitorafmonteiro]

Was the Rankin Bass cartoon Mike mentioned "Flight of Dragons"? Not related to D&D but Mike seems to be going from a FAR dimmed memory.

[@tadpolegaming4510]

Yeah, it came up on the screen

[@DanceySteveYNWA]

@@tadpolegaming4510 and he said, "The Rankin Bass cartoon Flight of Dragons" 😂 I think its safe to assume he means that.

[@Fardawg]

Not only did he say "Flight of Dragons" in the video, with an added big image of the VHS/DVD cover for it (as others pointed out) but he says the character creates a board game "similar" to D&D, not that it has anything to do with D&D itself. Seems your comment was the one coming from a "FAR dimmed memory."

[@vitorafmonteiro]

Did Mike actually say the tittle I only recalled him blabbering on the "Rankin Bass cartoon" and trying to remember the title while Jay laughed not getting what the hell he meant. I saw the poster of Flight on the video but I took it as the Commentary editor's lucky guess from Mike's recalling ramblings, from what I recalled. I remember Mike trying to recall it properly at first (Mike wasn't getting all details right in his description so I wondered if it was that cartoon), but I'm trying to recall what went down myself. I know it's dimmed memories, I didn't even recall commenting that lol. Memories do that sometimes, so remember never to believe Mandela effects, our memories just work slow or f*ck up fully often. Take care guys. And on Flight of the Dragons being related to D&D, that's a bit of dim connection and more something made up for the film and not in the inspiring book I think, I meant being franchise connected (which it isn't).

[@Xtoff]

Mike sounds like he’s ready to die. Perfect 👌🏻

[@4Legacy]

4:49 Kevin Spacey, you leave Wesley Crusher alone!

[@BadAxeEntertainment]

The sequels are actually better than this movie with 1/10 the budget.

[@mustafaalwan6523]

Thx . I've been waiting for this

[@tylernewman-stump9343]

I looooove Flight of Dragons!

[@satanbutterwolf1107]

How can this guy offer commentary on D&D without having seeing the animated show?? Do some research!