Redshift Top Shelf Bars On Vintage Gravel Bike! When the Premium Is Worth It!

[@joowwwllllll666]

As a long legged short torsoed human I really appreciate those bars. Could actually make my my saddle and handlebars almost even.

[@BruceChastain]

I seriously love this video. The whole thing with the fit vs the look is really a tricky thing to get right. You want it to feel comfortable but don't want to look too weird. But I think you got a cool look going, really alt for sure.

[@newoldsteel]

I'm so stoked you love the vid! Exactly, that's the hardest thing with these conversions, it's too easy to make them look a little too odd. Thanks again for watching and commenting!

[@NomadZ-cc]

I just received the Redshift Top Shelf with the top and drop grips. I put them on a Trek Checkpoint(longggggg reach) best decision I've ever made for bike touring/packing. My position improved so greatly that I gained around 2mph. Cannot recommend them enough. It's actually fun again.

[@newoldsteel]

@@NomadZ-cc that is so awesome to hear! Yea these bars seriously make the old builds fit so much better! Otherwise some frames are unsalvageable due to the odd geo.

[@popswilson2008]

I’m riding a '93 Crossroads Cruz with the Redshift Kitchen Sink bars, the Redshift Cruise Control System, Redshift Suspension Stem, Shimano 105 2x10 shifters and derailleurs. It’s also equipped with a Kinekt Suspension Seat Post, Brooks saddle and 45mm tires. Very comfortable ride.

[@newoldsteel]

@@popswilson2008 thanks for watching! That sounds like an amazing setup, glad you got a hold of a crossroads Cruz!

[@84eggharbor]

I added the redshift top self bar , cruise control grips, and stem to my trek checkpoint. I love the shorter reach i get from the rise of the bars and shorter stem. The cruise control grips let me ride without gloves, which saves my hands from sweating. In all the kit was expensive but well worth the change. Im 55 and just ride for pleasure and exercise, I don't race and have no plans to , i just like to enjoy the ride.

[@newoldsteel]

@@84eggharbor bingo, this is exactly what the purpose of the whole Redshift package. Helps with comfort sooo much that it makes it worth it! Especially the sweaty hands with gloves it gets pretty bad at times but glad it works for you too! Thanks for watching!

[@eddiea5076]

This is awesome! thank you! You can also upgrade the cantilever brake to the Tektro CR720 cyclocross cantilever set front and back, it's got better fulcrum for less effort on the levers, better control and stopping

[@newoldsteel]

@@eddiea5076 thank you for watching! And thanks for the recommendation, I’ll definitely want to try those and they look awesome!

[@GarrettTischer]

So much great thought and intelligence in this build. This is a gravel super build!

[@newoldsteel]

@@GarrettTischer thank you so much for your comment! I’m glad you enjoyed it!

[@thegoodwheel]

Great problem solving. Hope you continue enjoying the ride👍🏾

[@newoldsteel]

@@thegoodwheel thank you so much! Appreciate it!

[@Andre-jx5kx]

Interesting take on the “hover” bar trend. I’m currently intrigued by their kitchen sink loop bar for my new gravel build

[@newoldsteel]

It's funny because a little over a month ago I had no idea, but I was really convinced from others and I'm seriously glad I looked into it. I really love the kitchen sink one too! Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@vkubica]

Great video! I had the same issue with converting my 1994 GT Timberline to a gravel setup. The bike has a low stack height to begin with, the quill to threadless stem adapter was too low. The solution was a Ritchey Ergomax bar.

[@newoldsteel]

@@vkubica thanks for watching! I saw those bars too they look great! I’m glad to hear you had success with the older frame because they are just so good, just gotta adapt to the frame geo like we did!

[@allrounderbicycle7193]

I love this. Thanks for taking the time to do this setup and find yet another solution to putting drop bars on a low-stack long top tube hybrid. It's a pretty clean bar in and off itself. But I cannot echo the opinion that it looks great. It's not a drop bar but I highly recommend a slammed Soma Oxford or Nitto Albatross if you're not actually trying to get aero. In my opinion of course, but on a hybrid, a low cruiser bar with the same wrist angle as a drop bar feels and looks better than a raised drop bar.

[@newoldsteel]

@@allrounderbicycle7193 glad you liked the video thanks for watching! Oh yea I’ll definitely try other bars in the future to solve the vintage bike geo issue.

[@jeffdible8171]

Well done. I've been waiting for a review with this application.

[@newoldsteel]

@@jeffdible8171 thank you! Appreciate you watching!

[@Daniel-yf9iy]

Nice build! Well done.

[@newoldsteel]

@@Daniel-yf9iy thank you I appreciate it!

[@electrocit673]

Other options is a gooseneck or cigne stem or extra short riser stem (25-35mm) but the stem mounts over the nut. Not going to lie though I love the BMX look of the Redshift bars.

[@newoldsteel]

@@electrocit673 totally true! I know there are those other options but you’re right the bmx style actually works!

[@daniellarson3068]

Good video - I have an old hybrid from the nineties. It originally came with flat bars. Ever since day one my hands became numb on longer rides with that bike. This raised handlebar looks like an excellent solution to hand numbness with the flat bar. Multiple hand positions and more upright riding will take the pressure from the palms.

[@ZenEndurance]

Hey Redshift- this gives me an idea - you could put suspension in that extra underslung area instead of into the stem. More room for some engineering solutions and then the whole bar is suspended evenly. And great review man!

[@havefunandbikestuffOver40]

Siiick build! Really dig it! Aloha from similarly hot days Oahu! 🫵🏼🤙🏻

[@alleykat6273]

Canyon should have considered these when designing the Grail

[@newoldsteel]

That's so true! Maybe one day but Yea these bars are better looking than the ones they went with.

[@daylenfeatherstoone6683]

I have found that the specialized hover bars are a significant compromise to these bars, although height increase aren't the same and the reach isn't the same they are some pretty fun and adorable bars. Specialized also has a few options around the same price with flare as well

[@seguravictor]

A 35 degree stem would be a way cheaper option - at least $100 savings

[@newoldsteel]

@@seguravictor totally forgot to mention that, any shorter stem makes the ride twitchy and unstable unfortunately so that’s what prevented that option. Thanks for bringing that up!

[@seguravictor]

@@newoldsteel There are 35 degree 90mm stems if needed - there are also stem extenders that give you a couple of inches more. Both of these are way cheaper than this bar. But hey, who says no to free stuff! 😆

[@charlcoetzee93]

​@@seguravictor he did mention he doesn't like too much rise in the stem. But yeah there's other ways to get the same fit

[@damianhill6704]

Get some Gevenalle friction shifters..awesome.

[@mcr8331]

I like the idea of the bars, but for a different purpose. Like if you have a bike with a more sporty fitting you can hold for a certain time, which you want to extend e.g. for a long bike trip. And I also like the attempt in this video, but I don't quite understand it. If you have a frame with a long top tube (= lot of reach) and you add a drop bar (= additional reach, like a second stem) why raising the stack? If it would be a pure stack problem, I guess a quill stem would look better and be cheaper, but of course limits the choices of handlebars. But I think if doing a drop bar conversion like this, it will be more a problem of reach. And then shortening the stem might cause too twitchy handling for gravel riding, but at this point I can't imagine it's worth installing drop bars anyway. Am I missing something?

[@inthebush3]

These are about the best looking Alt. bars I've seen and look way better than a long riser adapter or adjustable stem. I would like to put drops on my xc bike as I'm doing longer rides on gravel and road so the 720 mm flats are killing my wrists. Problem is my effective top tube is 610 mm on my large frame. Any ideas ? Or should I just build or buy a gravel bike.

[@newoldsteel]

For real they are awesome looking! I think the best out of all of the alt bars available now. Normally I do judge a build/buy based on budget, but if you don't have a low limit, a modern gravel bike may be a bit more comfortable to ride. However, if you are on a budget or looking to keep the bike and just do a conversion, I think getting these opens up way more positions for comfort and probably is going to be less expensive in the long run than getting a whole new gravel bike.

[@inthebush3]

Yes thanks for your thoughts. Alt. bars or normal drops your gravel build captures the simplicity of cycling to me.

[@ericsande5345]

What width did you choose? I see they are likely 50mm rise. I commute on a 59cm LeMond Tourmalet (welded 853/525) with utilitarian parts and have considered these bars.

[@newoldsteel]

Thanks for watching! They are the 44cm model, but on the tops its 44cm. A bit wider on the drops.

[@ericsande5345]

@@newoldsteel The weird thing about bars these days is where the measurement is taken. I have 44cm classic bend bars on my bikes and never know what I'm going to get if I try some of these new bends.

[@antoniiocaluso1071]

flip the stem, and you can skip most-all of the bottom spacers! imho

[@newoldsteel]

@@antoniiocaluso1071 totally understand that! I personally don’t like a stem with too high of a raised angle but doing that can solve this issue if someone’s budget is tight

[@benjaminsmith-haddon7316]

@@newoldsteel That's cool. Personally I believe the 'standard' stem orientation is always 'upside down'. Mine always point up. Is there an engineering reason why so few people do this to achieve stack height for free? Cheers.

[@kennyness8881]

Why didn’t you just flip the stem?

[@newoldsteel]

@@kennyness8881 not a huge fan of steep rise on stems. It would be a lot. Cheaper to do that but also the bars I had on the bike were also uncomfortable. Thanks for watching!

[@fatrobdouble]

4:18 laaaaaaaaame excuse; a stem with more rise would solve all the same problems for less money....the only drawback is that a stem with a ton of rise looks kinda cheesy, but the Top Shelf bar looks cheesy, too. In reality, if you had kept the oem quill stem, you'd never have run into this problem to begin with.

[@Bored-G]

What shifter are you using sir?

[@solarheat9016]

Why don't you flip the stem?

[@zibo29]

Which light do you have? thanks

[@newoldsteel]

@@zibo29 honestly it was one I got from eBay so long ago and it’s one of those brands that kind of disappears and I can’t find it again.

[@zibo29]

@@newoldsteel thanks a lot anyway, looked really good - if it also works really good I would definitely buy it

[@haemstah]

Dixna Cross Bandy for the reach and drops, or Dixna Neither.

[@fredhenderson6303]

How tall are you?

[@newoldsteel]

@@fredhenderson6303 I’m 6 foot 1, but just my own personal anatomy and preference, I normally choose frames smaller than recommended, but finding one In the size I want from the 90s, in decent condition, and a seller that’s reasonable is tough to hit a bullseye on so I compromise on sizes at times.

[@fredhenderson6303]

That bar is too bulky. They need to make a drop bar made from triple butted reynolds 953.

[@newoldsteel]

@@fredhenderson6303 I can see that! Hopefully one day they can make one using that tubing. Thanks for watching!

[@newoldsteel]

Check out Part 2 here! kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGbbo41sm8R6h68

[@MHH3180]

WAY too wide for any normal sized human. On long rides you will get a pain between your shoulder blades. Why the heck did they go with mtb bar widths? Gravel is stutter bumps. It isn't going to yank your bars from your hands. Your reach is severely compromised by this width. Lean forward on a counter and see what happens when you bring your hands together.