Refreshing the Board Just Got Even Better! - Peglin

Peglin Part 21 - this new refresh synergy relic caught my eye, so I thought I'd bring it out in a custom build with the refreshorb. At first, it seems crazy that they nerfed the refreshorb, but now I see why they did it.
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[@bishuhp]

my favorite part was at 38:14 when tyler says, “it’s refreshin’ time.” and then proceeds to refresh

[@anothrnoml]

underrated comment

[@m7mad182]

It was definitely one of the moments

[@BagelEnjoyer]

The moment of all time

[@electronic_dude4970]

some one make that an inside joke or meme

[@ThylineTheGay]

MORBIN TIMEEEE

[@xanderramsdell2919]

"as the run goes on" he says, 1 fight away from the final boss. Yes, Tyler, because there is so much run to continue to go on. There will be plenty of time for you to see how much that relic helps. *Definitely*.

[@Nullbound]

Bruh 😭😭😭

[@rupert_1491]

-sun tzu, the art of war

[@stickofthetruth9408]

Said that just incase there was a secret room after the boss

[@alasdairsinclair916]

Well, to be fair, the sock puppet does even less on the final boss.

[@susamogus8331]

@@alasdairsinclair916 at least it doesn't hinder him

[@nobutlikeactually]

39:20 that item seems like a weird synergy with betsy hedge, it literally just means that every crit on the board gives you +0 +1

[@10503.]

Tyler should try to start with those two and the relic that gives +2 crits on the board

[@NoizZy_]

@@10503. seems like too much as starting, tyler likes to atleast make the starting a bit fair ya know

[@nintendomario007]

Refresh orb used to start every 8 then got upgraded to 6 IIRC, but now it starts at 6 with a cap of 10 refreshes. Edit: The refresh damage boost does apply instantly. 21:01 your stone started gaining damage by 4 instead of 3 after hitting the refresh.

[@Lystr0saur]

38:13 When he said "It's refreshin' time!" then refreshed all of the bad pegs, it was truly one of the moments ever.

[@timbo3286]

19:10 All orbs that have the text "can target any enemy on screen" do half damage to mirrors, with one exception nosforbatu( that one does normal damage), all other orbs do double damage, at least this was the case a couple of updates ago. 21:00 The buff does apply during a throw, even though the numbers on the side of the screen don't update, as the stone gained 4 damage per peg hit but the numbers stated it should be 3 (same thing happened at 24:55 the orb gained 5 damage per peg hit but, according to the numbers, only shoul'dve gained 2).

[@samuelo5052]

Well this was a refreshing episode. It’s pretty baller how you have these while you move.

[@muhammedsamman]

Some might say it's an orbscellent episode

[@TlalocTemporal]

@@muhammedsamman -- An eggcellent and well rounded episode, all things concentered.

[@metal3978]

This certainly cured my borbom.

[@tubbzchain2569]

So the reason for the change of refresh orb was because it was probably the most broken orb, if you had the gift that keeps on giving, it had the possibility of causing runs to end because it would just infinitely refresh which is why it was limited to only 10 times now.

[@brutusthebear9050]

I feel like the last upgrade should make it so the board refreshes after the orb leaves the field, so the next orb has a fresh field every time

[@kiranaun9593]

That one poltorbgeist shot against the wall was amazing

[@haabyalexis1157]

"I'm taking a break " What do you mean you're uploading bangers everytime while in a break? No, seriously, I never been that satisfied by your uploads. Hope you're actually resting enough, keep up the great work man.

[@BleachWizz]

The stuck thing is really annoying, and I think an "if (velocity = (0,0)) { velocity = (0,-1) }" might solve it. I mean you just force it to hit the bottom peg. You can also raycast down and just destroy the block, but stil you need more than 1 direction, at least 3.

[@kdevelopergw]

or something like if (velocity = (0,0)) { StartCoroutine(HitboxDisable()); } IEnumerator HitboxDisable(){ collision.enabled = false; yield return new WaitForSeconds(.5f); collision.enabled = true; }

[@BleachWizz]

@@kdevelopergw there will be bugs with ball receiving back collision boxes inside the pegs. Other than a ball randomly flying off it's fine

[@bastian_5975]

@@kdevelopergw I think the simpler solution is better, if anything just get the direction of net force on the ball (usually down, but the gravity wells change that, and any time there are moving pegs, it could end up being forced in a new direction) and remove the pegs making contact in that direction if the ball is stuck.

[@kobdog2823]

@@bastian_5975 I think a decent solution would be to make the ball check for connecting pegs and hit them when stationary. Things like refresh and the pumpkin allow the ball to get stuck with no speed so checking when speed is 0 should fix it as long as you check it a few times to account for refreshing before deleting the ball. As for granting velocity to the ball you could do it but it’s not unlikely for your ball to be forcefully moved inside a peg. Then depending on the physics it might just blast off screen at light speed. Which while it would look cool could soft lock the game.

[@tommy3134]

But aren’t there several other situations where the velocity vector could be (0,0) and that additional could mess with things?

[@godlyvex5543]

By the way, the damage upgrades were definitely applying in real time. It doesn't reflect in the stats on the left, but if you pay close attention to the damage numbers, they rise faster after they get the damage bonus from refreshing.

[@thecomentguy6557]

Tip: this strat is godly with critiball, refresher course, electropegnet, and the shaft potion that makes crits also refresh. (Also tgtkog if you can get it)

[@jucom756]

The thing about betsy's hedge is getting a crit does exactly the same with or without it, but getting a 2,4 critted vs getting an 8,4 critted hits different.

[@doomse150]

I think you severly underestimate the value of refreshing on the first orb hit. Especially when the board gets more empty, having that initial refresh can be a lifesaver by kickstarting the refresh streak

[@lily_littleangel]

20:55 it actually did apply, it just doesn't show on the left, but the damage counter does increase by 4 every time.

[@weird_th]

refresher course buffs do apply right away (the side doesn't update, so you have to look at the numbers on the board)

[@crimsondragon2677]

“You can always afford to lose a few pounds” I wish! - a chronically underweight dragon

[@christophermoore6110]

Same

[@ai-tw1zn]

@@christophermoore6110 you're also a chronically underweight dragon?

[@casualviewer9804]

As if refreshorb wasn't good enough

[@noahvanhinsbergh7021]

I softlocked with a critiball with heavy-shaft potion and gift that keeps on giving that is why refreshorb has a limit to how long it can refresh

[@sunbleachedangel]

Just give us the "stop* button after like 3 or 4 minutes instead of putting stupid fun limiters

[@slice6298]

@@sunbleachedangel 3 or 4 minutes sounds like a lot Maybe instantly, there could be some cool intercations with destroying the orb mid flight

[@new0news]

@@slice6298 click the orb to blow it up lol

[@slice6298]

@@new0news borbm

[@new0news]

@@slice6298 clorbck theorb orb torb ballow orbt uporb

[@sunbleachedangel]

35:00 Tyler completely missing the gap at the bottom lol

[@Juniper_Rose]

Tyler, faced with a long line of enemies and a big board of pegs: I don't want Poltorbgeist here.

[@sammy-the-haze]

I know this is an old video now but tyler stays sleeping on the poltorbgeist and I’m so glad he saw how good it was in the very last fight

[@soundboomer]

I may be late, but congratulations for reaching 500k subs!!

[@lukeguo3966]

he’s celebrating at the start of september, don’t worry ur not late

[@fastertthanyou8805]

I am real hyped for whatever he has planed when he gets back from his break

[@wypmangames]

instead of waiting the update, maybe you could do a chaos run: you start off with all relics, and one of each orb type, you are NOT allowed to take any new orbs, outside from dublication mirrors (dublicate all) and the remove mirror just pick a random one to remove, and then see the chaos of synergies and brokenness regardless of what orb you get just a fun bonus video/challenge idea of course :)

[@garlic_bread_toast4403]

“That was a little disappointing” “That was disgusting” -Tyler 2022 -also my dad when I was born

[@lily_littleangel]

I'm pretty sure mirror logic is that it deals double damage when hitting from Peglin's side and half when hitting from above (orbelisk and lightning both hit from above for example). Not sure about ones that hit directly (jack orb, concentration).

[@jdr293]

Given that logic I would expect normal damage from direct hits but idk

[@lunchtime_mmmmmmm]

It's good to come back to the Tyler that knows how to play, episodes from 3 months ago hurt to watch

[@davidpotts7116]

An easy way to fix the issue of pegs getting stuck - if a peg’s momentum reaches 0 for 3 seconds, set its downward momentum to a low amount. Getting pegs stuck because of refreshes is so annoying, and it happens constantly with refreshorb.

[@bengoodwin2141]

Peglin is cool but I'm really looking forward to potion craft

[@CowKirbo]

I'm a bit the opposite. I love this game and don't really have much interest in potion craft.

[@cannedbeans29]

im still waiting for tyler playing another BTD6

[@desktoplasma1070]

The orbs that do double damage to the mirror or things like that are the ones that attack from the side. Because they are hitting the glass.

[@wingedfish1175]

I feel like a cool relic could be +1/+1 for every elite killed this run

[@oygemprime3864]

The mirrors' damage modifiers are pretty simple. Targeted orbs deal half damage, while fired orbs can be reflected and deal double damage.

[@fastertthanyou8805]

Sweet refresh build

[@CadAvarice]

“Refreshin’ time” -Refreshorbius

[@therabbithole5686]

Time to fuck my sleep up again

[@maximelenfer6280]

I haven't watch a pegglin video since at least 3months i think and omg it change so much

[@sarad2487]

Rewatching when there was no shop yet, ah the good old days

[@timvankoert7702]

In case you don't know, the mirrors and weather vanes take halve damage from orbs that can target any enemy (or colunm), and all other orbs deal double damage (and get reflected, in case of the mirror)

[@22TwentyTwo]

24:25 supporting tyler is everything i need

[@maverick4437]

Jack-orb-Lantern used to have stat buffs on each level, started as a 1/2, then when leveled up it became a 2/4 the went to the top of the board twice, and at level 3 a 3/6 that traveled back up the pegboard three times.

[@wisppandemonium8106]

fun fact about mirrors: anything you throw from the left does the good damage, but anything that doesn't do the good damage also doesn't trigger the mirror to damage you.

[@Bush_Scout]

38:14 HE SAID IT HE SAID THE THING

[@thomtom3070]

You should always or at least regularly start with the eye of the turtle relic. I think it’d just make everything more interesting overall since you’d have more options.

[@dejikimoritzgztyuixc7227]

This was a really cool video, loved watching the absurd 12k damage at the end, absolutely mental that a bollock can do that much.

[@cheesiestmaster879]

Orb idea: The Alphorb 3/4 Innate: This orb will be your first orb every reload Echo Boost: This orbs damage is multiplied by X for the purpose of calculating Echo effects

[@Seldaphar]

More Peglin content is always refreshing

[@Shade00a00]

very nice run. Loving your content these past couple weeks with the potioncraft beta and this coming back, made me reinstall it :)

[@greenbirdgaming8691]

Quick note: From what I can gleam from watching this, the mirror is weak to any orb that doesn't alow you to pick your target, but if you hit it with any of said orbs and it survives, you will take damage. Any other orb does half damage.

[@greenbirdgaming8691]

Acualy the weather vane works in a similar vane to the mirror, minus the bounce back. (Pun intended)

[@mav0709]

@22:35 Incase you didn't know you can just click which enemy you want to target and the targeted orb will hit that

[@necroprogaming6851]

Challenge: Finish peg Lin, but every time you are offered one or more orbs, you have to take one. No skipping.

[@Starwort]

2:38 it was actually to prevent a softlock with gift that keeps on giving, on the board that's essentially just a moving wall

[@darkithnamgedrf9495]

That is definitely not the reason, considering it still gets stuck and also if it wasnt there that relic would be way to op, so using some critical thinking we can assume they changed it for the relic

[@Starwort]

@@darkithnamgedrf9495 it's literally stated in the patch notes, plus IIRC the refreshorb change happened before refresher course was added

[@AVoiceForRadio]

I feel like Jack-Orb-Lantern would be insane with the Chip relic

[@huang111]

Kinda? Not really insane though, you still have the same chances of making it in or out the hole

[@cheesiestmaster879]

If you have both Betsy's Hedge and Short Stack, Betsy negates the negative of Short Stack

[@DavidLIVE_]

Love to see another peglin upload.

[@Idontnowut2do]

This was definitely enjoyable

[@MrRyanroberson1]

as strange as it was when you started doing it, i can say it was a great choice for editing style to accelerate the video but not the audio

[@raf42]

I believe everything here is pre-recorded, but FYI in the latest patch they removed the x0 slot from the weighted chip relic. So it might be worth revisiting in the future. Hope you're having a fantastic break, looking forward to the ongoing content you were kind enough to leave us during this time.

[@Raylative]

3:25 I went completely pog

[@SheWhoExists]

Praise be peglin!

[@colserra3063]

Yay! More peglin!

[@Dracophile7]

Challenge ideas Complete a run with only critiballs, refreshorbs, and bomborbs. Or Complete a run with only weapon orbs.

[@evenaxin3628]

This tempted me into starting with matriobrska shell, 4 stones, and jack orb lantern. it's very hard to get to work, but very strong once it does.

[@kirbomatic1573]

I think that it would be cool if stuck orbs got a burst of speed in a random direction. that would help when you have the gift that keeps on giving

[@ipkandskill]

Backpack hero is officially out if you wanna check it out.

[@hannahlistento100EAT]

games be looking sick right now

[@PPedroFernandes]

So now I'm wondering, if you gave the refresh orb matriorbska, would each orb have its own 10 refreshes and trigger the relic twice?

[@totally_not_a_possumlmao254]

Fun fact, mirrors health are 1331 because it is the same “mirrored”

[@etourdie]

Mirrors/lightning rods take .5x damage from things that don't hit from the side

[@yozarahirvi4750]

here's a little info on why matriochka shell wasn't a bad pick : each orbs have their own counter of 10 refresh => with matriochka shell a single refreshorb could refresh 20 times edit : gift that keeps on giving isn't a bad pick, but matrioshka shell was better because the -2/-2 doesn't matter much when you get +5 worth of stats on every refreshorb you throw

[@alliebonesVODs]

I think a good buff for the Refreshorb upgrades would be for the max refreshes to go from 5 to 10 to 15.

[@jeffgoldblunt]

My favorite part of the video is when Tyler said it's refreshing time and then refreshed all over that guy

[@Valreg]

They need to give a relic that grants a bonus for “skipping stones”

[@jackmartini2718]

yoo loving the midnight uploads

[@kritzmaker]

now i suddenly want to see piercing attacks do 2x damage to the wall cause yknow you are breaking through the wall

[@drawnfromflames7007]

hope one day an echo build can be done, would like to see its full potential

[@ashtonh991]

Very fun build

[@youssefmehana1249]

I have an idea for the game:an orb merger where you can combine two level 3 of the same orb and it becomes a level 4 which has a special effect on the pegs like maybe the jack-orb-lantern when it hits the pegs they fall down and come from the top again falling into place...hope anyone sees this idea

[@destroidhak2556]

That's a fresh idea

[@CaTastrophy427]

There ought to be a ? event that only shows up if you skip the boss relic (and not always, just sometimes), which gives a special relic, or maybe just gives you the option to pick any relic you want.

[@coltonknight1073]

You need the relic that makes crits into refreshes and then use Critaball for infinite scaling

[@euva8904]

Where are our rule 34 artists with refresh orb yelling "stepbrother I'm stuck!" ?

[@glitchxero4687]

Nobody seems to be able to say musircle, but it's "musical", but circular. Because orb pun.

[@michasokoowski6651]

What a REFRESHing build

[@etourdie]

They made the refreshorb only work 10 times because with terrible luck on some moving peg maps you could either softlock or build up wayyyy too much damage. I believe they added that the patch before this one

[@erinlieb4535]

MUSCIRCLE asfsadfsaf Chad Alienstock says (musk circle) Virgin cunning lunguist says (mew-circle (portmanteau of Music and circle)) lmao nice vid

[@MyzticF]

His way is probably correct, pretty sure it's muscle + circle

[@erinlieb4535]

@@MyzticF Okay, That works. Why would a *bell* and a *book* give you *muscle* tho

[@Dravenick]

if the pegs that fade in and out can spare orbs from bugging out, then what if when the game detects the orb bugging out, instead of the orb disappearing, the nearby pegs fade out and in... Or that could be a new relic that does that.

[@CaTastrophy427]

Tyler, take the Chip again, it has been buffed a lot, it's actually good now, no 0x slots and two 2x slots

[@jansyrovatka4090]

In my opinion, better orb for refreshing is crittibal with heavy? shaftpotion.

[@purplestar322]

35:37 should of gone for the all dupes since you would get a total of 6 refreshorbs

[@Jack_Wolfe]

I wanna see how many of those chest bombs you can detonate in one run.

[@XNAROTO]

tyler. when you get a chance i would LOVE to see you play cult of the lamb. it just came out and its really great

[@xxjkl742xx]

you should do an only bouldorb build, just to see how far it can go.

[@zaclittlejohn2701]

The first flying enemy. Bouldorb can't hit fliers.

[@Alayric]

Step refresh orb keeps getting stuck 😤

[@trinity5893]

how to contradict yourself: 13:45 -1 orb is bad. Earlier:-1 orb is good

[@liamorsborn2711]

How does the jack-o-lantern work with the chip?

[@tragictoast3197]

Good 44:33, love to see it (;

[@lordforce5546]

Heavy shaft potion + critiball is the better refreshorb

[@briansun9261]

cool

[@BinaryArmorOnline]

Being married to someone who works as a Psych Tech at an eating disorder recovery clinic... Body positivity, Tyler!! >:)