10 years ago if someone asked me if I’d like to spend some of my day off watching dudes clean old computers, I’d look at them like they were crazy. But here I am....!
@cbw563 жыл бұрын
exactly same here lol
@doodles1133 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@BilisNegra3 жыл бұрын
While you love the stuff onscreen but almost despise, or at least don't care much about the much more capable, however humble, computer you're watching this on (a nearly 8 yr old beaten-up laptop I got for 70 bucks a couple of years ago in my case).
@milklordnomadic Жыл бұрын
10 years ago people were looking at me crazy for watching dudes mess with old computers on the internet 😅
@dbozan993 жыл бұрын
At 14:38 you mention using ddrescue for failing drives in the future but IMO when doing preservation you should always assume that the drive is failing and just start with ddrescue. You never know when the drive might fail and you might only have one shot! Booting the drive was also really risky and put a bunch of wear on the drive. Loving the videos, keep it up!
@Ptero42 жыл бұрын
Came here exactly to mention ddrescue.
@confusedkemono3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how 75% of the comments are about Shelby's cat (completely understandable!)
3 жыл бұрын
The hardest part: do not allow myself to be distracted by the cat-business happenings so being able to focus on the computer ;)
@TommyAgramonSeth3 жыл бұрын
I have to agree. "Wow, this computer is rea- KITTY!"
@TheSulross3 жыл бұрын
or just decide that this is really more so a cat video than a vintage computer video
@BertGrink3 жыл бұрын
If you can pull that off, you have stronger willpower than me.
@allentoyokawa9068 Жыл бұрын
My cat died today..
@Ozfrank3 жыл бұрын
Какой толстый шикарный котэ! What a fat, adorable cat!
@JS_i4u_support3 жыл бұрын
And yes! The cat is adorable ;)
@BilisNegra3 жыл бұрын
It does very much live the typical home cat life, without absolutely any care in the world.
@AmstradExin3 жыл бұрын
You have one lick, cat. Make it count!
@gilah65653 жыл бұрын
Еще бы не лез куда не просят)
@brianmarshall67463 жыл бұрын
This is really great. Sony VAIOs, both desktops and especially laptops, stood out in the late '90s and early 2000s. In an era of generic beige boxes, Sony's design team was just on fire. Those systems were so pretty. They charged you about a $1000 premium versus what everyone else was charging for the same components, too. As a result, it never really made sense to plunk down the extra money (at least not for me as a young adult gamer, as money was tight). Yet the design aesthetics that Sony had going for its VAIO line were incredible. This video really brings the nostalgia, and isn't that the point of this hobby? Great video.
@ironhead20083 жыл бұрын
Kitteh be like: No, dammit, I AM THE STAR HERE!!! Fetch me a Mahi Mahi steak human!!! By the by, about the only thing that system needs is a PCI Voodoo 3 and you'd have an awesome little glide pc.
@DarkVeilGaming3 жыл бұрын
So THAT'S what that keyboard is!! I saw a keyboard that was incredibly similar (has the palmrest flap thing) at a thrift store and I almost grabbed it, but figured I didn't need anymore keyboards. Definitely gonna snag it if it's still there! Edit: Oops forgot to update! Sadly the keyboard was gone :( (along with the CRT that was next to it, hopefully someone bought it to build a cool retro setup!)
@ptzzz3 жыл бұрын
I share the feeling of not needing any more keyboards. At some point I had like 8, some PS2 and some USB. Now down to 6 and maybe 5 after I give another one away to a buddy who needs a keyboard.
@DerekWitt3 жыл бұрын
"Ah, a keyboard. How quaint!"
@j81851 Жыл бұрын
Love your kitty reminds me of my Prince who was one of the sweetest cuddliest baby of all my babies over the years. I lost him several years ago but to see your baby reminds me fondly of my sweet baby boy bringing back pleasant memories. Love your channel!
@prismstudios0013 жыл бұрын
The cat’s tail startled me good st the start of this!
@victorvangrimgamming67843 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who noticed that cats are often in computer videos. LGR, David does tech, Craft Computing, and a few outgers I can't remember. I'm not saying it's bad, but its funny
@ptzzz3 жыл бұрын
Did you mean Dawid Does Tech Stuff? I agree with the cats being around on the vids are kinda funny.
@iYonga3 жыл бұрын
the 8 bit guy too
@Okurka.3 жыл бұрын
That's why they have to clean out their computers so often.
@iYonga3 жыл бұрын
@@Okurka. No. Dust always collects too fast. No matter how many pets you have.
@schmatzler3 жыл бұрын
Cathode Ray Dude also features his cat quite often. :D
@ZeroHourProductions4073 жыл бұрын
That vocal protest from the kitty
@DavidWonn3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know which I liked more, the PC or your cat! Anyway since this is Windows 98, before Microsoft broke the internal search feature, it’ll be a breeze to find the location of the wallpaper, among other things.
@adamsavard5353 жыл бұрын
Petition to start a Cat Tangents channel. I need more cat in my life.
@ps5hasnogames553 жыл бұрын
get a girlfriend then
@jaywing97643 жыл бұрын
@@ps5hasnogames55 Giggity
@rommix02 жыл бұрын
@@ps5hasnogames55 Ba-dum-tsssssh
@patricktrakzel9657 Жыл бұрын
@@ps5hasnogames55 And her name should be Catherine.
@jondough763 жыл бұрын
I thought you'd missed some spots while you were cleaning the case. Turns out I just really need to clean my monitor.
@alexisnik199113 жыл бұрын
So good to see these retro (now) VAIO machines with the original software! Thanks for the video!
@ianphilip62813 жыл бұрын
Shelby, I prefer ddrescue/gddrescue, dcfldd or dcfldd over vanilla dd for any work especially imaging. Ddrescue in particular is fast and fairly safe thanks to its configurability, syntax is very similar as you'd expect. Perhaps give them a try if you get the time to take a look. Also, it supports using a map file so it can pick up where it/you left off if interrupted.
@codenamegamma3 жыл бұрын
For the feet, since the shape is just a Pyramid with the top cut off, it shouldn't be very hard to model replacements and 3D Print them. just get some smaller rubber feet to go on the top and it should be basically good as new. matching the color would be hard but a normal grey PLA probably won't be too far off.
@humidbeing3 жыл бұрын
I replaced a lot of those Seagate drives in the early 2000s.. We called them condom drives because of the rubbers.
@themadoneplays78423 жыл бұрын
AWW love your cat, especially when it tried licking your thumb (my cat does that too!)
@subtledemisefox3 жыл бұрын
My orange cat will gently nibble on my hand if I don't pet him when he's feeling needy lol
@larrywilliams80103 жыл бұрын
And did you also notice how he held his thumb out for the cat? That's what Cat Lovers do. :)
@Fuzy2K3 жыл бұрын
My dad had a Sony VAIO desktop back in 1999. It wasn't a slimtop, but it was still pretty cool. It came with a few Star Wars games because Episode I was coming out in the theaters at the time. It had a DVD ROM drive, so my dad got a 21" Sony Trinitron monitor, which was, at the time, the second largest monitor I'd ever seen (the largest being my brother's Gateway Destination monitor which was BLOODY HUGE). I miss that computer.
@patricktrakzel9657 Жыл бұрын
Huge and heavy.
@Fuzy2K Жыл бұрын
@@patricktrakzel9657 I remember the box it came in had these plastic handles that held it together, and to unbox the monitor, you'd unhook and remove them, then pick up almost the whole box, leaving the monitor and the bottom of the box on the floor. :P
@DanSaundersYT3 жыл бұрын
the PS4 took inspiration from this design 😂
@StrawberryServal3 жыл бұрын
Well they're both a Sony! Quite a time gap though...
@amirpourghoureiyan16373 жыл бұрын
I'd say more the PSX dvr, but I can see where you're coming from though
@genzo533 жыл бұрын
You meant *PS5
@MuscarV23 жыл бұрын
Wow, a box standing... It's as "similar" to a white Xbox as what you "think". It doesn't even work as a joke because it's so dumb. And as said, it's PS5, how the fuck do you get that wrong? That only puts another nail in the coffin of evidence that you're immensely stupid.
@spungbob_spare_pant3 жыл бұрын
@@MuscarV2 Anger nerd
@satysin6303 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful computer. Sony really knew how to make a superb looking system. For a 1999 TFT that screen looks incredible as well. Is it as good in person as it looks in the video? It looks so sharp with good colours and contrast. The keyboard looks and sounds a dream as well. I know mechanical keyboards are more popular but 90s membrane keyboards have a special place in my heart, so comfortable to type on. The mouse... well yeah it is what it is ;) Thanks for the video, not had a great week and a nice 40 minute break to sit and watch this was just what I needed.
@TonyBMan Жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading all your notes and software to the Grand Archives. You're doing the lord's work!
@Leahi843 жыл бұрын
I loved Sony Vaios so much. I never had a Vaio desktop, though always wanted one. But I had a Vaio laptop in the mid to late 2000s.
@nickwallette62013 жыл бұрын
Half the laptops I’ve ever owned were VAIOs. Small, light, good screens and track pads... I’ve moved to the MacBook Pro now, which was inspired by VAIO. Apparently I have a type.
@thelastNokiauser3 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@TheOriginalCollectorA13033 жыл бұрын
That is a really cool setup, Vaio systems always have interesting designs!
@timothyverbist57953 жыл бұрын
That VAIO monitor seems to be one of the first flat panel monitors!
@1980sGamer3 жыл бұрын
I believe that mouse was actually made by Logitech. They made a lot of mice for OEMs. That scroll wheel design looks very similar to a mouse I opened up a long time ago that I do recall being made by Logitech. Try sourcing a Logitech mouse from around the same time frame and i bet it would have a scroll wheel that you could use.
@PhillyMJS3 жыл бұрын
Except for the two buttons and scroll wheel, that mouse looks absolutely identical to the Apple Desktop Bus Mouse 2 from 1993. In 1999 it was a new era for them and I doubt they’d care that anyone copied a 6 year old mouse design. Of course, in 1999 Apple was shipping that awful hockey puck mouse, a step backward in mouse design for them.
@valerieeslick63243 жыл бұрын
I love the aesthetic of the mid to late 90's
@davidb.66813 жыл бұрын
That cat gives zero f**ks LMFAO Mine does the same thing anytime I'm cleaning stuff out. "Oh you have a bunch of screws over here? I'm going to smack them around. I see you have the lid off that IPA bottle? Another mistake"
@DerekWitt3 жыл бұрын
Kitty's infatuated with the keyboard. "I wants. I sits!"
@RuruFIN3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the cat. :3
@ThatBulgarian3 жыл бұрын
what is this video about? i was just looking at the cat
@jvcox96653 жыл бұрын
Love how he pays attention to detail, great job keep up the great work. Glad I came across your videos, I'm now a sub!!!
@Eppopower3 жыл бұрын
Hey @Tech Tangents, I love your content. I listen to these video's during work or to go to sleep, and watch them during my free time, but I do have some pointers if you'll accept 'em. I recommend you to compare your build & refurbish video's to LGR's. I think for example, that when you input some soft background music, and remove the sound when fast-forwarding, it could increase the overall viewing/listening pleasure of those parts! Keep going strong!
@LeftoverBeefcake3 жыл бұрын
Always liked that Sony bucked the trend of the boring beige box with the lovely purple-ish & blue-ish gray color scheme (though IIRC I think IBM was trying a black color scheme on some of their machines around this time which was pretty sharp too).
@kaydot68893 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking "man, I haven't seen TT post in a while" like 20 minutes ago lol
@itsGeorgeAgain3 жыл бұрын
The mouse reminds me of the PlayStation mouse, and the rest of the thing has PS2 dev unit vibes ...
@cadeanderson4223 жыл бұрын
3:29 "This thing is like, purrrfect"...as he pets his cat haha
@dormcat3 жыл бұрын
3:29 "This thing is like, purrrfect."
@RetroGadgetMan3 жыл бұрын
I have the Sony PCV-LX1 windows me version of this machine, which I did a video about. Your example is in much better condition than mine. Such an unusual machine and a great find.
@draggonhedd3 жыл бұрын
Hey Shelby i have the enitre theme and cursor pack for this if you need it, with all those wallpapers too. They are some of the best windows themes and cursors and i use them on all my pre-vista systems
@_marlene6 ай бұрын
Sony (and particularly the Vaio) design language is some of my favorite of all time. Just beautiful
@Okurka.3 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I got an allergic reaction by watching a video featuring a cat.
@sprybug3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! I worked on one of these back in the day when I was a computer repairman. It was around '99 too if I remember it right.
@daw75633 жыл бұрын
Those rubbery seagate drives really sucks, happy to see it was still working for you. EDIT: spoke to soon...
@Alexis_du_603 жыл бұрын
Ech I've got a Maxtor DiamondMax in my iMac G3 that makes similar worrying noises, I keep hearing a lot of horror stories about DiamondMax HDDs but mine's still kicking since 1999... lol
@darthrevan13442 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video and many thanks for the Internet Archive upload!!!…These Sony machines are beautiful
@jessejones17833 жыл бұрын
hi what keyboard do you use with your Linux computer because i am wondering please
@jay3fox3 жыл бұрын
I have fallen in love with your cat!! - I have to say he stole the show! lol
@m3gAnac0nda3 жыл бұрын
I believe it's a she. I had the exact same. Crazy...
@CptJistuce3 жыл бұрын
Man, I had forgotten how lovely Sony's computers were at the turn of the century. I've never owned a prebuilt, and learned a mild disdain for them early on, but... damned if I didn't want a Vaio anyways.
@TheXarus2 жыл бұрын
Never even had a laptop?
@CptJistuce2 жыл бұрын
@@TheXarus Well, never a new one. I've picked a few elderly ones up from folks who consider a decade-old computer useless.
@TheXarus2 жыл бұрын
@@CptJistuce Me too, me too haha
@TheClau8093 жыл бұрын
> This is a prebuilt. This isn't really supposed to be opened up and modified > The case opens up with two plastic clips, not even one single screw PLEASE take me back to when all devices were this repairable
@naikjoy3 жыл бұрын
I really like this whole form factor... and of course how compact it all is.
@yourproblemthesolution Жыл бұрын
Great video, love the old pc rebuilds. However, why were you so worries about the drive and the software though? I'd bet a W98SE install would take care of most drivers and I just looked the system up, though Sony doesn't have any drivers for it, I readily found some by a google search. Anyway, love the vids, they got me back into vintage pc's after being a computer nerd back in the nineties.
@tweakpc3 жыл бұрын
It looks like the CCFL in the monitor is failing, you can replace it or even convert it to LED. The second requires knowledge of electronics as the control board must be wired correctly.
@MelhodRiperton3 жыл бұрын
A Sony NEWS would be awesome! Yeah only what i missing is that slimtop keyboard QWERTY (German)
@Halterung013 жыл бұрын
I really loved the depth you went in to demonstrate imaging a failing IDE drive on linux. Also that diff command. I learned a lot today :D
@Rubycon993 жыл бұрын
That company from Poland you mentioned does really good work. Their case badges look 100% professional.
@nathantron3 жыл бұрын
TIL that soft rubber eventually becomes conductive?
@PaulinesPastimes3 жыл бұрын
It's very interesting and also really nice looking. Very pretty. Looking forward to the exploration. I love the way cats have an annoying and endearing way of trying to take over when you are trying to do some work. Your car was determined to be petted, no matter what. 🐱 😊👍
3 жыл бұрын
Have 3RL ?
@tjmichael3 жыл бұрын
14:08 Glad you found an accredited IT professional and power linux user to help you image the disk.
@TJDunaway3 жыл бұрын
It's recommended to have a second keyboard for these purrfessionals to relax on as well.
@Danny-wv8ec3 жыл бұрын
That monitor has that weird hinge because some models came with a touchscreen and stylus. No wonder Steve Jobs' favorite computers were the Sony VAIOs, I can't think of any other computer that had these features back in 1999.
@darkwinter60283 жыл бұрын
I suspect that the scroll wheel can be replaced with one from another non-Sony mouse; but you might have to find a surplus store that has a big bin of them to find the right one. Alternatively, you could 3D print one with a resin printer... won’t be rubbery, but you could texture the surface for traction.
@beatadalhagen3 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if you could get the mouse wheel printed in some sort of semi-flex.
@anancient243 жыл бұрын
What a comfy episode.
@computercloset61653 жыл бұрын
Dude I saw this exact setup for sale on OfferUp too! Do you live in AZ?!
@SKY112112133 жыл бұрын
I cant wait for the next video!!!
@nicwilson892 жыл бұрын
11:19 Oh hey, I have one or two of those drives from some of my old machines still! :D
@braelinmichelus Жыл бұрын
I was too distracted by the cat to pay attention to the computer in the beginning. lol
@BilisNegra3 жыл бұрын
Hey Shelby, with so much populating the desk it isn't clear what's the main subject of the shoot in the first clip, the computer or the Meow Cattop. :D
@art2k1793 жыл бұрын
The computer looks so clean I wished more computers looked like this!
@xan12423 жыл бұрын
Wait the board says Kaiba on it? Did KaibaCorp have a hand in making this computer?
@BCProgramming3 жыл бұрын
My old Toshiba Satellite 440CDX had a similar effect with the display. I didn't get it new, but I got it in 2001 when it was about 5 years old, and it always had that effect. So it's possible it was just how the LCD tech of that time period looked. (And explains why we didn't flock to LCD screens as soon as they were available!)
@DavidWonn3 жыл бұрын
That’s an unusual location for the Num Lock key, even on a truncated keyboard such as yours. Ordinarily I’d see it combined with Scroll Lock in such scenarios, though that’s more common on laptops.
@danagoyette79323 жыл бұрын
Is that a 16-bit PCMCIA slot, or a 32-bit Cardbus slot?
@mrmobodies48793 жыл бұрын
I see there is an Asus branded chip and fonts "KAIBA" near the cmos battery holder. I wonder if they manufacturered the board or designed it for sony?
@WuschelWolf3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad the cat is back too!
@SUCRA3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video, Shelby. First of all that's a great cat, my partner's cat is just like it, apparently only female cats have that fur color patern. Your video alerted me that I need to backup my Sony PCV-W20, I also made a video about it, people are asking for the drivers, I think I can help by saving the system32 folder. Congrats on the find, sony things are really cool, I love their design on retro systems, specially their MSX, those look so good. Thanks for another one and I can't wait for the next!
@osgeld3 жыл бұрын
I worked for a refurb house in 2000 did a ton of that family of systems, always liked the form and style but just like now I was into hot rod gaming PC's and it wasnt going to cut my needs... ever since I kind of wish I bought one (cause they were grade B+ refurb's and cheap, and always liked them)
@SubwooferVideosx Жыл бұрын
i love your videos, been binging them
@TyTytheCat20043 жыл бұрын
I need to buy one of these for old DOS experimentation.
@thedungeondelver3 жыл бұрын
From a design point of view, this thing is kind of Amiga like. Low profile, PCMCIA card slot on a desktop, etc.
@MichaelMichael-kv4gp Жыл бұрын
Spinrite 6 by GRC is the best for mechanical drives. Everything GRC makes is in assembly by an absolute genius team. I recommend getting a copy just have since you deal with old spinning media :)
@davoid96 Жыл бұрын
LOL the cat trying to sleep was so funny
@coreybabcock2023 Жыл бұрын
You at the computer petting the cat reminds me of dr claw in the inspector gadget cartoon
@HeyImGaminOverHere Жыл бұрын
That rubber sleeve is stock for those drives. I have a few in storage and all of that series came with those sleeves.
@scottcol232 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, the VAIO logo which stands for Visual Audio Intelligent Organiser... is supposed to be a sign wave (analog) and a 1 0 (digital binary code) signifying the evolution of sonny's products.
@vaiotuber Жыл бұрын
I learned a long time ago that VAIO stood for Video Audio Integrated Operation.
@scottcol23 Жыл бұрын
@@vaiotuber look it up dude
@KingGameReview4 ай бұрын
I'm glad I'm not crazy with those SD card readers not showing up. I have never once gotten them to work on any motherboard of ever tried.
@NelsonBigGunP200Fan Жыл бұрын
that rubber around the drive is to protect the PCB from shorts. its called a "seashield" seagates barracuda and U series had it to protect the PCB from shorts and static shock that can make it lose data or die.
@John-uc6gb Жыл бұрын
Cute cat. Mine sometimes sits on the keyboard. Great video I had a VIO laptop many years ago. Thank you
@bruwin3 жыл бұрын
Isn't the mouse just a logitech oem mouse rebadged? Chances are you can go to a thrift shop and find any number of mice with a compatible scroll wheel mechanism. Just pick one with the rubber that's close to that color and you should be good.
@TbM Жыл бұрын
Got those Seagate HDDs too, here we had a saying that time... "Seagate, they die like flies"... had about 16 of them RMAd due to massive errors while still in warranty...
@mcamp390043 жыл бұрын
I had a Vaio mini tower circa 2002 paired with flat screen trinitron crt. It was my first windows PC. Up until then I’d only had a Mac IIsi and a first gen iMac. I still use the powered speakers that came with it.
@MrHamof Жыл бұрын
For the feet, there's a process to make rubber parts using 3d printing. Maybe something to look into? I don't know the details but Robert Finger used it to make some parts for his bike restoration project and it seemed to work really well.
@joedixon5153 Жыл бұрын
The rubber sleeve will become conductive? Since when is rubber a conductor
@LouisCYUL3 жыл бұрын
For keycaps a good tool is an ultrasonic cleaner. My guess is the mouse wheel hydrolyzed, old polyurethane soles also do that.
@FennecTECH3 жыл бұрын
Oh god. Those missing feet :(
@amnottabs3 жыл бұрын
man I had one of those Sony keyboard but on a gray w/ dark gray scheme that I pulled from an old office building during my high school days, if I knew such a device could be lying around I would've flipped the place head to toes searching for it
@darthrevan1344 Жыл бұрын
Is it actually possible to upgrade this to an SSD?
@dave4shmups3 жыл бұрын
Great video on this Sony Vaio! I love the cat, too! Did you ever do a video on that PC that's running Kubuntu?