Regarding The Hololive Situation

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Rev says desu

Rev says desu

Күн бұрын

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@Revsaysdesu
@Revsaysdesu Ай бұрын
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@dantesparrow9903
@dantesparrow9903 Ай бұрын
Honestly nothing lasts forever we should just be happy Ceras was there and enjoy the time we have left with her as Ceras Fauna and support her in her future endeavors if you so choose
@daisukeniwa402645
@daisukeniwa402645 Ай бұрын
You didn't read the part where if Yagoo didn't go public. He would have had to sell the company.
@dantesparrow9903
@dantesparrow9903 Ай бұрын
@@daisukeniwa402645 I had seen something about that too and doesn’t Yagoo technically have majority share in his company I don’t know the exact percentages never mind I found em
@maybenations
@maybenations Ай бұрын
Would be great if you could cover Yagoo new job after leaving hololive. If he has one, that is.
@dantesparrow9903
@dantesparrow9903 Ай бұрын
@@maybenations Yagoo never left Hololive unless you’re talking about someone else or you’re talking about when Yagoo quit the modeling thing he was apparently doing(I got this part from a google search)
@zine_michael_ix
@zine_michael_ix Ай бұрын
I think the red flag that started for me was the fact that an investor wanted Yagoo removed as CEO of Cover Corp. To me, that seemed odd, but I thought it was just a rumor.
@moe14lord
@moe14lord Ай бұрын
no way these investors think they can just remove the **founder** himself stay based Yagoo
@popothecat9760
@popothecat9760 Ай бұрын
It was a rumor back at march but now it's certain that someone is blackmailing him with these pressures
@dantesparrow9903
@dantesparrow9903 Ай бұрын
Well that’s never gonna happen as Yagoo owns more of the company shares at I think 39% while the person who wanted him removed most likely owns less then that at maybe like 0.50 or so depends on who wanted him removed but it seems like from how the stock seems to be owned that Yagoo isn’t going anywhere for a very good while
@Boskov01
@Boskov01 Ай бұрын
@@moe14lord Except you can remove a founder of a company. Just look at the guy who founded Papa Johns. He got thrown out of his own company. I think it's wrong too but that's unfortunately the risk you take when you take your company public. If enough shareholders say the CEO needs to go, they can make it happen.
@hapwn
@hapwn Ай бұрын
I think they're getting ready for Pekora before GTA6 comes out.
@scrapeddiamonds5776
@scrapeddiamonds5776 Ай бұрын
-has BLACKROCK as one of the companies/investors -Cover going public -they picked a location... and its in CALIFORNIA -4 graduations IN A ROW yeah, i dont like the feeling about this, and im not even a vtuber fan
@IManX30
@IManX30 Ай бұрын
I feel a disturbance in the force
@scrapeddiamonds5776
@scrapeddiamonds5776 Ай бұрын
@@IManX30 a terrible and horrible one, actually. THIS AINT GOOD, DUDE. i wish im wrong about this, i hope im just delulu
@GenshinLover283
@GenshinLover283 Ай бұрын
BlackRock only owns 10% stock compared to their other investors. Chill tf out
@IzuLeMat
@IzuLeMat Ай бұрын
I'm a Vtuber fan and I'm also concerned about this. people saying they only have a small % of stock have no idea how cancer works..
@talkingtakotaco8611
@talkingtakotaco8611 Ай бұрын
​@@GenshinLover283 10% so far. Also 10% is actually quite a bit. Is that true?
@XxKNIGHT742xX
@XxKNIGHT742xX Ай бұрын
"get rid of graduation because it's too triggering" Holy fucking shit, that phrasing tells me everything, it is fucking over.
@necrosslich
@necrosslich Ай бұрын
They are already rewriting the terms for vtubing, hololive has began to graduate this day smh.
@thehurricane6767
@thehurricane6767 Ай бұрын
Vshojo is going to be very popular real soon
@LawfulBased
@LawfulBased Ай бұрын
Wokeness needs to go.
@bobsnob3073
@bobsnob3073 Ай бұрын
​@@LawfulBased The pendulum is swinging back. Sad to see Hololive jump onto a sinking ship.
@xxJing
@xxJing Ай бұрын
Any phrase would be triggering then, ultimately it just means they're quitting. If they're fired, then they are straight up terminated.
@ARDIZsq
@ARDIZsq Ай бұрын
Rev: “California is woke backwards bizarro world” As a Californian, I agree 100%.
@atles300
@atles300 Ай бұрын
No lies detected
@Unethical.FandubsGames
@Unethical.FandubsGames Ай бұрын
Pretty much everything wrong with media is happening in California. Seems like a fair assessment. I'm sorry that you have to live there. I hope it gets better.
@felatras9503
@felatras9503 Ай бұрын
California is slowly turning red. If we're lucky, maybe California can redeem itself in a decade.
@silentotaku8
@silentotaku8 Ай бұрын
Also agree.
@thsudy
@thsudy Ай бұрын
I mean you can steal from stores and you Won’t get Arrested
@PrinsPrygel
@PrinsPrygel Ай бұрын
Blackrock, Vanguard, and State Street. The three horsemen of the Adpocalypse.
@marcusblackwell2372
@marcusblackwell2372 Ай бұрын
I know why Blackrock is, but why the other two?
@spld3rp1g
@spld3rp1g Ай бұрын
@@marcusblackwell2372 DEI and ESG is the same deal. they push for the same changes in companies.
@KeltkeGH
@KeltkeGH Ай бұрын
In a few months we will see Hololive Vtubers having to play games like Dustborn, Assassin's Creed Shadows, Dragon Age: The Veilguard, and they will be obligated to say these games are 10/10.
@UltimateThanos
@UltimateThanos Ай бұрын
They aren't that indestructible.
@MaverickhunterXZero
@MaverickhunterXZero Ай бұрын
And Bridge. Do not let the Autism Foxu's soothsaying go unheard.
@stickfigure8416
@stickfigure8416 Ай бұрын
I was there, Gandalf I was there the day Coco left
@akkunair9392
@akkunair9392 Ай бұрын
same man same..... I miss her everyday 😭
@donovanhadley2209
@donovanhadley2209 Ай бұрын
She left a few weeks before my birthday 😢
@Aeonfell
@Aeonfell Ай бұрын
next meme 👏
@TheDorianTube
@TheDorianTube Ай бұрын
That was the writing on the wall, the whole incident, and people stayed. I left. I did good.
@TTen-schir53b9
@TTen-schir53b9 Ай бұрын
Same here
@Homiloko2
@Homiloko2 Ай бұрын
Having an IPO was the biggest mistake. YAGOO now has less than 40% of the company, he lost control. And investors never care about the long term health of the company, they'll just push for immediate profits every quarter until everything crumbles and then they'll walk away and invest in something else, or just buy the company extremely cheap to reuse the IP.
@dantesparrow9903
@dantesparrow9903 Ай бұрын
Honestly he didn’t lose control yes he owns like 39% maybe but the companies everyone is worried about own even less then that at 0.56%
@Homiloko2
@Homiloko2 Ай бұрын
@@dantesparrow9903 But having less than 50% always means that the investors can gang up and overrule his decisions. He can never have the final say anymore. YAGOO could even be replaced as CEO if he doesn't suck up to the investors.
@vyyr
@vyyr Ай бұрын
@@dantesparrow9903 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT BLACKROCK USES THEIR LOCAL SUBSIDIARIES TO BUY FOREIGN COMPANIES? And even those subsidiaries are owned by smaller asset managment funds, that are owned by banks, that are owned by asset managment funds owned by blackrock and vanguard. It's not really profitable to ouright own a company as a investment moloch, it puts too much of the responsibility on you.
@Akakiryuushin
@Akakiryuushin Ай бұрын
@@dantesparrow9903 he has lost control. he does not own 61%. 3/5 of the pizza is not his. he does not get to choose what goes on the pizza
@yowamidesu
@yowamidesu Ай бұрын
Yagoo himself stated that he had no choice but to go public. His other option was to sell. A percentage of control is better than full loss.
@yufeng1707
@yufeng1707 Ай бұрын
Cover going public was a mistake. Losing Ame, Aqua, Chloe, and Fauna is no laughing matter.
@drakingp2119
@drakingp2119 Ай бұрын
It was the lesser of two evils though. It was either go public or outright Sell the company to pay back the venture capital loans.
@kinglightning5256
@kinglightning5256 Ай бұрын
Based off lamy cilp there was two decisions that to be made and losing talents was unavoidable each decesion. We have to be real hololive have over 40 or 50 talents and keep everyone happy with no disagreements is impossible. Hololive had to choose expand go global and lose the talents who wanted things to stay stable or stay stable and lose the talents who wanted the opportunity to expand hololive. This is a business and keeping fans and talents happy with every decision is impossible. We should be happy talents get to say I'm going continue streaming after leaving hololive and leaving with good terms unlike nijisanji.
@josueveguilla9069
@josueveguilla9069 Ай бұрын
​@drakingp2119 Hmm. Interesting 🤔
@Rugratszz
@Rugratszz Ай бұрын
@@drakingp2119 How did they end up with so much loans anyway? I thought they're making banks from vtubing?
@notusneo
@notusneo Ай бұрын
No mention for Mel?
@ImaginatorVT
@ImaginatorVT Ай бұрын
4:25 The fact that Hololive is now public means that the titans of banking: Visa & Mastercard can have control over them. And I’m sure they’ll go after the loli characters; they don’t care about making money so they’ll even go after Gura if that’s the case.
@justinps1636
@justinps1636 Ай бұрын
Not just her. Could be shion and La+ as well. Which is sad. But I still think Japan along with anime in general has something under their sleeve so they won’t let that happen though.
@lightninstriker10
@lightninstriker10 Ай бұрын
If Gura goes, the entire EN branch tanks. Her meteoric rise *is* the success of the EN branch, the others are popular and beloved in their own right, no doubt about it, but Gura is the one everybody thinks of even if they only barely know what a VTuber is.
@justinps1636
@justinps1636 Ай бұрын
@@lightninstriker10 I understand what your saying, but I disagree with you only because we’ll still have the others and they they still do their thing especially when they’re all individually loved!
@Focaloren
@Focaloren Ай бұрын
I believe that, Visa and Mastercard are both owned by Blackrock. They can also debank anyone, just simply delete their bank account for any reason they want.
@ImaginatorVT
@ImaginatorVT Ай бұрын
@@justinps1636 I really hope Japan can fight back, one of us should open their own bank company so that freedom of speech and expression can be maintained around the world. 🕊️
@ausrick7
@ausrick7 Ай бұрын
7:32 the art style is called globohomo short for Global Homogenization or similar. It’s the hallmark of HR departments and Souless multinational corporations the world around. There’s even a satirical game on Steam in that art style where you play as an over worked office drone.
@SplittingOfPrides
@SplittingOfPrides Ай бұрын
DEI - Destroying Entertainment Industries.
@JoelLeonhart
@JoelLeonhart Ай бұрын
DEI- Destroying Every Industry.
@LawfulBased
@LawfulBased Ай бұрын
DEI = Division, Exclusion, Intolerance also " Didn't Earn It "
@LawfulBased
@LawfulBased Ай бұрын
DEI = D°vision, Exclusion, IntoIerance Also = " Didn't Earn It "
@xkblxcripple
@xkblxcripple Ай бұрын
Should see what it has done to the Australian mining industry.
@AszkalonOfVerra
@AszkalonOfVerra Ай бұрын
DEI must go - and for good.
@Subzearo
@Subzearo Ай бұрын
That "clip-art" has a name, it's called "Globohomo"
@Igiveashitofaname
@Igiveashitofaname Ай бұрын
I just thought of it as a meme and i looked it up now, holy f this is a very bad sign!
@jorgenjorgensen2739
@jorgenjorgensen2739 Ай бұрын
​@@Igiveashitofanameunfortunately it is not a meme.
@Igiveashitofaname
@Igiveashitofaname Ай бұрын
@@jorgenjorgensen2739 yeah i see now
@stronensycharte64
@stronensycharte64 Ай бұрын
​@@jorgenjorgensen2739 Once you notice, you never stop
@wishiwasaneet26816
@wishiwasaneet26816 Ай бұрын
The memphis corpo slop?
@alexkogan9755
@alexkogan9755 Ай бұрын
Unless management is legitimately bad and the corporate heads do need removing, investors should not be allowed to make creative decisions. It rarely works out well when they do start making “creative decisions.”
@Surkk2960
@Surkk2960 Ай бұрын
Companies become worse when their leaders don't use what they sell... and that seems to be the case with most if not all shareholder lead companies.
@UltimateThanos
@UltimateThanos Ай бұрын
They want to remove Yagoo because he’s Japanese and not ethnically Jewish. That’s all it boils down to.
@gingeral253
@gingeral253 Ай бұрын
@UltimateThanos Where did that come from?
@iwandn3653
@iwandn3653 Ай бұрын
yet happen all the time. these investors are people who never done actual work. most likely they are the people who actively consider work are for dumb people.
@alexkogan9755
@alexkogan9755 Ай бұрын
@ as a Jew myself, I want these rich ones with too much time on their hands to back the Hell off.
@Theaveragegamer_12
@Theaveragegamer_12 Ай бұрын
As a Californian, they need to get out of this State IMMEDIATELY. This is where good companies come to die.
@pinguwingu7690
@pinguwingu7690 Ай бұрын
I mean it makes sense for Hololive to situate themselves in Cali if they were going to branch to the United States. It’s one of the closest states to Japan. Has tons of office spaces. Already have a lot of infrastructure for music production and performances. Plus the Dodgers. This would be a lot less controversial if it wasn’t for everything else going on. If they would’ve done this independently last year I think people would’ve been hyped. But now with the baggage of everything, it has made people nervous.
@literalmeme2260
@literalmeme2260 Ай бұрын
@@pinguwingu7690false, PlayStation is stationed in California and you can say it’s for similar reasons since the main hq for Sony is in Japan. But we have been seeing the ramifications of products that come to California only recently in the gaming industry because games take a long time to make. Any game greenlit in 2013 released by 2019 at the fastest. But then you have games like concord which were cooking for 8 years and saw several changes. California gives a direct incentive to censor and pander. It benefits the business. To corporate and investors you’d be actively throwing away potential profits by not pandering and censoring, for example a lot of companies do this specifically to enter the Chinese market. You’re seeing it worse recently since projects that had to go through development over the last 8 years are the most vulnerable to these changes. Because since 2022 there’s been an even more hardcore implementation of diversity equity and inclusion, ESPECIALLY IN CALIFORNIA. These people aren’t in the industry because they want to make games, they want to send a message, and while it is okay to send a message, I want you to think how censorship affects the employee who desires the freedoms to make what they want. Now corporate gets involved and instead of just mandating a game has to come out on time they mandate you need to include this this and that and exclude this that or the other. This is a problem for any person who is in the entertainment industry, media industry, the people who aren’t at the top of the food chain and don’t want to kiss the ring to make profit. Vtubers are lucky that they can just go and become independent creators and still have an army of oshi’s support them. But for any worker ant who’s a developer or creative who doesn’t want to be hindered by corporate and lose vision of things they wanna make. Well they’re screwed to put it lightly
@GodOfOrphans
@GodOfOrphans Ай бұрын
Unless they almost exclusively hire people from either out of state or like Orange County or something the new hires will be ideological demons who will warp the culture of the company because that's the kind of people who live in the tech areas of cali and the ones most likely to pursue that kind of corporate career because they've already made the industry too toxic for any free thinkers to work in and maintain their sanity same with education to get things like an MBA or tech degree plus all the deliberate fincancial backing to stack the industry with plants even a free thinker with a will of iron and skin like a rhino couldn't afford it anymore
@Avetho
@Avetho 26 күн бұрын
They should've headquartered in, like, Washington or Oregon instead, California is where society goes to rot. And yes, I'm explicitly including the Hollywood cesspool in this.
@MasterOmegaProGaming
@MasterOmegaProGaming 8 күн бұрын
Just don't go the the lower center regions of America and we're good and there won't be a hurricane the size of Texas coming to us and earthquakes as violent as the day pangea (supercontinent) split into several pieces
@hitoridatinao
@hitoridatinao Ай бұрын
"Towards a More Inclusive and Diverse Production" GG boys
@StupidAnon-gn8ih
@StupidAnon-gn8ih Ай бұрын
Fuck.
@rOvertJustice
@rOvertJustice Ай бұрын
When your hobby or interest goes mainstream, expect the worst. This is the mere tip of the iceberg if there isn't a massive course correction. People think it can't get worse; everyone has seen the drop in industries like video games and movies. This can get MUCH worse.
@watafau_lover
@watafau_lover Ай бұрын
a clarification regarding the article Rev showed at around 8:18 the cover image of that article reads 「配信活動終了」について. the translated headline of the article correctly conveys the meaning of the aforementioned phrase. without going over the entirety of the japanese vocab used here, note that 配信 literally means "distribution", however, in the context of streaming, it is more aptly translated as simply "streaming". the following paragraph's headline reads "graduation and end of distribution activities". "distribution activities" is in fact a poor translation, likely an error from some half-baked translation program. they do actually mean "streaming activities". how they got the translation right in the overall heading, but not in this sub-heading is beyond me, nevertheless, the key takeway is that it's a bad translation and not some sort of "corpo-speak" tldr: "end of distribution activities" is a poor translation, not corpo-speak
@watafau_lover
@watafau_lover Ай бұрын
while I'm already here, let's make another clarification at 9:07, Rev scrolls to another section of the article, saying it was added to the English translation and not present in the Japanese original. half-truth. he scrolled over the section from the original at 9:03. to be fair, the heading translation is not at all close to what the Japanese original meant to convey. (the actual content of this section are largely identical in both languages) here is the japanese heading of that section: より様々な活動ができるプロダクションへ. very roughly translated this means: "towards (becoming) a company able (to offer) more varied activities". notably, 様々 means varied/various/diverse etc. how whoever was in charge of translating the document got from 様々 to "inclusive and diverse" is very dubious to me. just "diverse", in the sense of varied/various, would've been correct, but by adding "inclusive" it makes it seem like they want to push some sort of narrative or appeal to the "progressive West". at no point does the japanese original include the word "inclusive" or anything similar tldr: take official English translations from cover documents with a grain of salt; the translators either don't know what they're doing or have ulterior motives 💀
@KeltkeGH
@KeltkeGH Ай бұрын
"end of streaming activities" makes more sense, sounds a little better but still bad overall. "graduation" is more pleasant sounding like Rev said.
@scrapeddiamonds5776
@scrapeddiamonds5776 Ай бұрын
@@KeltkeGH its still a corpo-sounding sentence, graduation is better.
@eehlohluell
@eehlohluell Ай бұрын
That's not what Rev meant with corpo speak. Rev elaborates graduation sounds better, as in not sounding like these vtubers are gone forever, while the "end of streaming " sounds more terminal, or like there really won't ever be a comeback of the vtuber.
@eehlohluell
@eehlohluell Ай бұрын
​@scrapeddiamonds5776 exactly what Rev was saying when describing it as "corpo speak", idk why the original comment took it there as in "agenda speak" when that's not where Rev took it, maybe misunderstanding?
@sanctionedforce1868
@sanctionedforce1868 Ай бұрын
senzawa followed lemonleaf? oml that's so sweet. edit: oh, she's following dooby too.
@NavrajThapa2002
@NavrajThapa2002 Ай бұрын
*uh ohh*
@Dog19181
@Dog19181 Ай бұрын
Hold on I need to go on draft kings really quick
@aldoleonardo220
@aldoleonardo220 Ай бұрын
The end of an era is near.
@ricardohoang8452
@ricardohoang8452 Ай бұрын
@@sanctionedforce1868 Oh no, not that spoiler
@MasterJongXG
@MasterJongXG Ай бұрын
Oh no....hope it's not a bad omen for holo....
@valkyriealpha
@valkyriealpha Ай бұрын
Hololive going belly up? Probably not. Hololive losing majority of their talent due to going public adding unreasonable demands by management? Already happening.
@Nonstapable7
@Nonstapable7 Ай бұрын
Its a hard truth but looking at fan base of new generations they think averything is alright. In Asian entertainment industry its a normal thing. Talents can be considered old after 5 years of debut.
@Nepu_Nep
@Nepu_Nep Ай бұрын
If Gura leaves that would genuinely spell the end for Cover. People downplay her importance due to her spaced out streaming schedule recently, but she still consists of a majority portion of merch sales as well as a driving factor in concert ticket sales and of course, she has the largest fanbase. The loss of Gura would mean the loss of Chumbuds, and that is a HUGE portion of Hololive's fanbase
@talkingtakotaco8611
@talkingtakotaco8611 Ай бұрын
I see gura more involved with corporate projects and company collabs more than the streaming. Things like advertising, merch and that one aquarium that uses her voice and stuff like that.
@Wolf-fighter
@Wolf-fighter Ай бұрын
noo pekora is the one thats only left in hololive still . gura, i couldnt care less she was the en gen only anyways . not what made hololive what it is
@oscarborjajr1176
@oscarborjajr1176 Ай бұрын
Not to mention Fubuki as well. The hololive girls have been talking about how things in management are changing and there worried about the future and what will happen to the company. I fear for the worst of what is happening to this company like having people like blackrock, black stone, vangaurd, not to mention mastercard and visa will are getting hololive stocks. Not to mention as well with California plan which the art are are tumbler est crap than the anime style we love. Which is very worrisome and terrible
@Kuribonker
@Kuribonker Ай бұрын
​@@Wolf-fighterwatch her graduate the next morning 🤣
@Immopimmo
@Immopimmo Ай бұрын
Heck yeah! Only reason I got into hololive was because of Gura. If she leaves I'm done with hololive.
@yamato9753
@yamato9753 Ай бұрын
They shouldn't have allowed Blackrock. Those Investors, not matter how small, are dangerous. As long as their influence isn't 0, they know how to make it to 100 before you know.
@Igiveashitofaname
@Igiveashitofaname Ай бұрын
word!
@SherrifOfNottingham
@SherrifOfNottingham Ай бұрын
The thing about being public is that you can't "allow" only certain investors, especially with the way investments work. Sure Hololive could never sell a single share to Blackrock, but with the way things are executed figuring out who you're trading to stocks to is not really part of a trade... and it wouldn't matter since all it takes is a day trader being offered a couple bucks to middleman stock purchase for them.
@IgnatianMystic
@IgnatianMystic Ай бұрын
Blackrock is nothing but mindless, greedy corporate garbage.
@yamato9753
@yamato9753 Ай бұрын
@SherrifOfNottingham Except if the contract of buying includes certain clauses that someone from the Company needs to "approve" of the Trade, and can just say "no" whenever the buyer is blackrock or any other such Investor. Or at least I hope that this is allowed in America.
@jacobsmith8377
@jacobsmith8377 Ай бұрын
give them an inch..
@YautjaTNT
@YautjaTNT Ай бұрын
Going public is a terrible idea, especially when you lose a controlling interest, BlackRock and Vanguard are horrifying and a California based office is not a good indication. All good things must come to an end it seems.
@MrJcTTK
@MrJcTTK Ай бұрын
It was go public or sell the company and those two companies don't even have a full percent of share
@gfysb00
@gfysb00 Ай бұрын
Does cover even make a profit? If they don't, they need to take loans to run the company, so eventually they need to go public to pay the loans and funds for expansion. As someone said, it's either sell the company or go public.
@chillchinna4164
@chillchinna4164 Ай бұрын
@@MrJcTTKdoesn’t matter how much they own at the moment. They can always buy more, for one, and for two, when you have an unofficial branch of the US government pushing you for shit as an investor you kinda have to cave to them even if they only own so much of your business.
@DimitriUmi
@DimitriUmi Ай бұрын
If Hololive is dead its been a Good ride guys, Its been a honor serving with you
@Metheos91
@Metheos91 Ай бұрын
if there's one thing we could feel relieved about, its not Yagoo's fault. He tried his best, he cried for his talents in which the talents confirmed it themselves, they all loved Yagoo. Yagoo had to make a difficult choice, either completely sell ownership of Cover or going public. He picked the one he could at least have some authority, no matter how little it is. If there is something we can blame is the nature of an outdated business template that is somehow still in widely in use being used against him, and greedy investors who want quick profit. its always the idiots who somehow have the power to use their authority for their own selfishness.
@Sansnessundertale
@Sansnessundertale Ай бұрын
I’m sad I’m just now starting to really get into vtubers😢
@Sansnessundertale
@Sansnessundertale Ай бұрын
And I never really watched hololive that much, but I didn’t want it to (probably) end.
@o.w.n.1327
@o.w.n.1327 Ай бұрын
May we see you on the right side of the Emperor.
@zacharywindover9840
@zacharywindover9840 Ай бұрын
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@TheDoctorofOdoIsland
@TheDoctorofOdoIsland Ай бұрын
Obviously, we don't have that much information about what is going on internally at Cover, but the sense I've been getting is that the company has been moving towards a different direction with how streaming works for their vtubers. Specifically I think they are moving away from the model of talents requesting permission to make their own content and then doing it if approved, to *being told* what kind of content to do and what to stream. Like we had EnReco, which was this big multipart event with a story structured by the company itself that the talents were asked to participate in, but the thing itself not being organized by the talents (unlike, say, the Minecraft Summer Festival). I think Cover is planning more streams like this and either shooting down streams the talents want to do, or crowding out their schedules with preplanned content so they have way less time for regular streaming. Fauna leaving over this is easy to understand since her focus has typically been on Asmr, Zatsu-streams, yapping while playing solo games, and other content that is specific to her and not things that hook into bigger projects. This agrees also with her statement that she isn't leaving over "not wanting to be an idol"; ie the problem isn't the music and concert side of Hololive but interference on the streaming and gaming side.
@kevlarandchrome
@kevlarandchrome Ай бұрын
That idea lines up with Kroni complaining a few months ago about issues with management, specifically having problems with getting answers for some project/projects she wanted to do. Sounded like she wasn't getting responses, and then eventually getting turned down flat. The way she talked about it sounded like something she was really not used to, as though it was new and upsetting behavior from the corporate side that didn't match previous experience.
@ninjagold9244
@ninjagold9244 Ай бұрын
lol Fauna has not focused on ASMR in a long time. I think they just wanted her to work more and get paid less and she said bye.
@Metaknight180
@Metaknight180 Ай бұрын
@@kevlarandchrome Altare recently needed a vacation partly because he got pissed off at management's lack of support, too. He needed something done, management said they'd do it but left it on the backburner, so after waiting for months he told them to send him the required materials so he could do it himself, and when he got it it was covered in dust so he knew they weren't even trying, and he fixed the problem himself in less than a day. If my understanding of his situation is correct. Soo...yeah. Something is going on with management behind the scenes, and it's clear that some talents are getting fed up with it. I don't want to speculate too much and get in over my head with theories I'll never know the answer to, but I'm definitely concerned for the talents and the future of the company. These are shaky times, they are.
@KeltkeGH
@KeltkeGH Ай бұрын
In a few months we will see Hololive Vtubers having to play games like Dustborn, Assassin's Creed Shadows, Dragon Age: The Veilguard, and they will be obligated to say these games are 10/10.
@UltimateThanos
@UltimateThanos Ай бұрын
What more info do we need? We know how showbiz works. Fauna and the other graduated girls were let go because they refused to have sex with Larry Fink.
@blitzkrieg8776
@blitzkrieg8776 Ай бұрын
Honestly, at this point I think Gura is going to do a similar graduation as Ame, but still be with them as a mascot so they don't risk damaging their USA area too much.
@jorgenjorgensen2739
@jorgenjorgensen2739 Ай бұрын
Wait... Ame graduated? (Been out of the loop since I had a kid).
@blitzkrieg8776
@blitzkrieg8776 Ай бұрын
@@jorgenjorgensen2739 She may or may not be going by Dooby now
@jorgenjorgensen2739
@jorgenjorgensen2739 Ай бұрын
@@blitzkrieg8776 thanks a lot! Apparently I need to catch up on the whole scene.
@duralumin594
@duralumin594 Ай бұрын
Gura's already been doing that since around October 2022, just without an announcement. Go look at how many streams she's done in the last two years that weren't tied to some kind of promotion, merch, or non-streaming event.
@SherrifOfNottingham
@SherrifOfNottingham Ай бұрын
@@blitzkrieg8776 Just say that she's Dooby now, there's no point in playing coy. That is a part of VTuber culture that was put there by NDAs to protect the company, its better for them if you go watch Bae after Ame's graduation instead of finding out you can just go watch Dooby. They want you to think "they're gone, focus on our existing talent." Obviously don't risk breaking their NDA by going on their channel and pointing out their past life, but on videos not in their moderation control, make sure to spread the word clearly and directly.
@hero9267
@hero9267 Ай бұрын
Not gonna lie, a loli DEI hire sounds kinda funny
@TroopurHQ
@TroopurHQ Ай бұрын
Sounds pretty cute too.
@mantazerted7155
@mantazerted7155 Ай бұрын
That sounds creepy as hell
@Alucard0zeon
@Alucard0zeon Ай бұрын
It could be a very funny joke
@bobsnob3073
@bobsnob3073 Ай бұрын
@@hero9267 cute and funny, even
@mrkingdrago1013
@mrkingdrago1013 Ай бұрын
​@@mantazerted7155not really
@ryanymous2138
@ryanymous2138 Ай бұрын
If Gura does graduate, it might result in a lot of collaborations with Dooby and Senz. That's how I look at it.
@BlackmarketSalesman
@BlackmarketSalesman Ай бұрын
Given how much of a face of the company Gura has become, not just the EN side given how many collaborations she has done with major cities and organizations in Japan and Taiwan, it would be a massive hit to Cover if she left. I think, barring the unaware investors gaining complete power, Gura is the best chance of someone pushing back on this nonesense and it working. But yea what the graduation of Gawr Gura would do to cover what a selen's firing did to nijisanji but a hundred times worse.
@Jonathanloh1992
@Jonathanloh1992 Ай бұрын
If Hololive goes woke, that would create a big problem for EN. Many will graduate especially Gura.
@SherrifOfNottingham
@SherrifOfNottingham Ай бұрын
I think people underestimate how much power Gura has over the company, when rumors of her contract negotiations were happening, she ratio'd a hololive announcement by having Senzawa tweet "oops" She can sit back and do the bare minimum and turn the salary against them because what are they going to do, fire her? Graduate her? She's the top earner in overall sales because she is the face of Holo EN but also has a massive draw in JP, she "owns" hololive more than any other talent, her graduation means not only a big drop in viewership across all of their channels, but will be a massive and direct hit to their revenue, since a graduation means that they can't sell her merch anymore.
@Jonathanloh1992
@Jonathanloh1992 Ай бұрын
@@SherrifOfNottingham Hope you’re right.
@StuninRub
@StuninRub Ай бұрын
​@@Jonathanloh1992LOL no. Calling is woke as fuck. Kiara's whole career is founded on my body my choice.
@CORP86
@CORP86 Ай бұрын
Losing Fauna hurts but we’ll continue to support her and all the girls still left in Holo. If Gura goes back to Senzawa tho, that would be siiiick!
@ComfortablyDumb42069
@ComfortablyDumb42069 Ай бұрын
Senzawa+lemonleaf+dooby+Dokibird collab would go so hard 🔥😭
@moriyamananaki8888
@moriyamananaki8888 Ай бұрын
Somehow I doubt that Gura will go back as Senzawa as she did say she hate her old self in the past but we never know
@PandaMacaroni
@PandaMacaroni Ай бұрын
@@ComfortablyDumb42069 Heck yeah!
@arttizkappa2588
@arttizkappa2588 Ай бұрын
@@ComfortablyDumb42069yeah they will build back their own collab group so don’t worry even if they all left it will be the same but only name changing in the end we never follow vtuber because of their avatar or their company we only follow them because of the person behind that avatar
@guliverjham8148
@guliverjham8148 Ай бұрын
Bro, it's holoover, start detaching, the calm has come, it just started.
@biiyen8458
@biiyen8458 Ай бұрын
I heard that LemonLeaf followed gramp's PL on X not too long after the graduation announcement and I don't know why I find that funny
@darkkeybladers
@darkkeybladers Ай бұрын
LL followed grampier?
@garuccadraws
@garuccadraws Ай бұрын
@@darkkeybladers oh for real :0??
@darkkeybladers
@darkkeybladers Ай бұрын
@@garuccadraws Yah she is following a certain ork vtuber
@garuccadraws
@garuccadraws Ай бұрын
@@darkkeybladers ohhh noice noice 030!!
@azurerider812
@azurerider812 Ай бұрын
Welp, looks like what I thought was right all along. It was the wardens of the gilded cage's doing.
@niahaz1
@niahaz1 Ай бұрын
For Fauna, I think it's less about drama and more of a business decision for her. What does Cover offer her that she will miss? Sha has the fanbase, the experience and is a good earner. She also does not care much for some of the perks as she doesn't like to go to Japan. She might miss the collab, but the booming Indie vtubing scene has solve that. If she calculate that she will have more freedom and more money by herself, than why not?
@darkwitnesslxx
@darkwitnesslxx Ай бұрын
This is correct I think for Fauna. Holo doesn't really offer her a lot, except for collaboration partners, at the cost of a LOT more off-screen work. She started as an ASMR'ist and I'm fairly certain it was Holo that minimized that aspect of her talent, as those videos don't get quite as many instant views. She'll do fine as an indie, and if she collabs with some big names maybe even better.
@KalloSkull
@KalloSkull Ай бұрын
Your words would make sense, if she hadn't literally said she wanted to stay, it was her dream job and that she wanted to be an idol. She also has to leave all her beloved co-workers behind, whom she praised to no end. Clearly she didn't want to go back to being indie, but had no choice.
@xdlol1177
@xdlol1177 Ай бұрын
Considering the fact that Cover became publicly traded, it would be safe to assume Hololive/Cover experienced rapid expansion, which means more staff. When they were private, quality over quantity was what made them so good. It was when they expanded, was when there was a sudden need for staff, which means lower hiring standards. As the old guard leave, the new ones with a different modus operandi from the original will rule.
@maybenations
@maybenations Ай бұрын
Yep, Public companies don't deserve loyalty
@akira_kei_
@akira_kei_ Ай бұрын
There could be a tipping point for the most popular veteran Hololivers that it's just better to go independent. Eventually there will be so many of them that they can all collab with each other too, so the pull factor will be even stronger. Fewer strings attached, loyal fanbases, complete creative control, the list goes on. I'd be more interested in a stronger indie space anyway. I became bored with Hololive a couple years ago when the creative constraints became too blatant.
@mehiloll
@mehiloll Ай бұрын
Two graduations announced in less than 48 hours apart. That is absolutely unheard of for Hololive. And of all talents, Fauna was literally the last one I expected to graduate. Something is definitely wrong, this isn’t normal. Regardless, I respect her decision. My heart goes out to all of the saplings, as I know how they feel. I felt the same way when my kamioshi (Amelia Watson) left, I mean who wouldn’t be sad? That being said… have you guys ever had lemons with leaves? 👀 Also if Gura graduates it will actually be over for me
@mikael100100
@mikael100100 Ай бұрын
hold up. ANOTHER graduation?! i know about fauna, but who else graduated within 48 hours?!
@chillchinna4164
@chillchinna4164 Ай бұрын
@@mikael100100 Sakamata Chloe announced her graduation a day or so before Fauna did.
@drakingp2119
@drakingp2119 Ай бұрын
​@@mikael100100 HoloX Chloe
@mehiloll
@mehiloll Ай бұрын
@ Sakamata Chloe from the JP HoloX branch announced graduation about a day before Fauna.
@survivorofthecurse717
@survivorofthecurse717 Ай бұрын
Let's hope that Fauna's other channel gets popular fast. She was one of the first people that got me into Vtubers and ASMR
@shmagojirafan5607
@shmagojirafan5607 Ай бұрын
2024 has not been a good year for V-tubers or the fans
@Klier2003
@Klier2003 Ай бұрын
We ate good, but it turned to sh-t overtime. Now what? We're witnessing the downfall of Hololive EN. Downfall arc I assume? I have no clue anymore, f--k that.
@dankdaze42069
@dankdaze42069 Ай бұрын
You can thank twitch for that and some other stupid platforms for target vtubers for no reason or just won't let adults be fuqqing adults already.
@Tempest27
@Tempest27 Ай бұрын
No just for vtuber the moment toriyama die I knew this year was cooked 💀
@ETG715
@ETG715 Ай бұрын
Also 2023
@josueveguilla9069
@josueveguilla9069 Ай бұрын
Oh, wait until 2025 and beyond. It's going to get worse before it gets better.
@Cosmic_Espeon
@Cosmic_Espeon Ай бұрын
Gura being a DEI hire would be the most out of pocket revelation of 2024
@clonedindividual6698
@clonedindividual6698 Ай бұрын
Unlikely, impossible even, making it even more out of pocket.
@ChiePet_
@ChiePet_ Ай бұрын
gura's a short white girl with curly-wavy black hair if im not mistaken, so that'd be a real strange pick for DEI. Kiara maybe lol.
@akkunair9392
@akkunair9392 Ай бұрын
@@ChiePet_ whats makes you say that kiara might be one?
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 Ай бұрын
Gura is the opposite of DEI. Cunny counters diversity
@NeonEclipse910
@NeonEclipse910 Ай бұрын
Well, she was successful. Therefore she doesn't fit the bill for being one. DEI hires are unable to perform well.
@Cowslippoetry
@Cowslippoetry Ай бұрын
Once a company goes public, it immediately goes to shit because the choices fall into the hands of idiots who don't understand the creative process. An influx of materialistic, smoothbrained, money-chasing drones who cannot comprehend the amount of care and precision required to create and cultivate an artistic project or grassroots culture. They live in a sterile world of numbers and charts, calculated risks and investments. The creative process will NEVER flourish when subjected to such constraints, but this fact is lost on creatures like this. They have neither souls nor humanity, thus it is a concept they will never comprehend. And yes, I'm sad to say that Fauna is a severe blow to the EN sphere, but she will not be the last. It hurts to admit, but lots of rainy days ahead.
@TheNapster153
@TheNapster153 Ай бұрын
Overall, I'm literally just waiting for the next big disaster to happen that will make people wake up and force dramatic change to our society. The current mindset of the world and the reappearance of an upper class is not sustainable in the slightest.
@sadboi714
@sadboi714 Ай бұрын
Wattson time travelled and new what was up and dipped.
@scrapeddiamonds5776
@scrapeddiamonds5776 Ай бұрын
guess the time traveller did an espionage and saw a bad future
@K0M3.0K3
@K0M3.0K3 Ай бұрын
"sorry had a Japanisim in regards to hearing the Cover Corp news TnT" Many Corpo Vtubers are either going indie or going back to their old channels as the Corpo Vtuber Bubble is deflating, meaning the companies are shut down or getting third party help. Whatever happens to Hololive I pray that Hololive & all the other Corpo & indie Vtubers have a good 2024/5. May Our games & Media Be Great Again.
@codename1176
@codename1176 Ай бұрын
Yeah the pandemic really caused the VTuber bubble it’s been steadily deflating.
@devildolphin2102
@devildolphin2102 Ай бұрын
And then you have Phase which is going stronger than ever with many of the managers and leadership being from other Vtuber corpos
@sparking023
@sparking023 Ай бұрын
​@@devildolphin2102 Phase is a different model from HoloLive. Sakana seems to focus specifically on streaming, which is less marketable than idols but much more flexible in terms of content and that gives a lot more room to the talents they hire. I feel like we got spoiled with how lax HoloLive has become in the past two years. Very unfortunate that they decided to veer from that path, I could see a purely streaming branch being made to absorb the HoloMems who don't want to adhere to the Idol Core that much.
@MrNorker77
@MrNorker77 Ай бұрын
Pipkin Pippa has some insights into the industry I don't have and she stated she'd never forgive Phase Connect if they went public. Take that for what you will, but I think she has a point.
@Wesrl
@Wesrl Ай бұрын
I don’t think Fish Man would either. It would have to be out of his control type decision
@TacynMegan
@TacynMegan Ай бұрын
She just said if PC ever went public she would just leave , and she made that clear to Sakana long ago
@vyyr
@vyyr Ай бұрын
Pippa is already hyper censoring herself ever since moving to california.
@Boskov01
@Boskov01 Ай бұрын
I think at this point, taking a company, any company, public is a bad idea. The money might be enticing but the loss of control and the potential for outsiders to come in and wreck things is too high anymore.
@vyyr
@vyyr Ай бұрын
@@Boskov01 eh, as long as you get to keep over 60% it's good.
@NeuronActivation
@NeuronActivation Ай бұрын
Chloe leaving and then shortly after Fauna announcing graduation left a lot of people questioning things. Never ask a hololive fan what happened in 2024 cause its depressing
@NapoleonJonamiteInc
@NapoleonJonamiteInc Ай бұрын
Sadly, I have to talk about 2024, at least for EN, with a project I have on another channel. Apologies for semi-shamless self-promotion here, @Revsaysdesu.
@JGD714
@JGD714 Ай бұрын
@@NapoleonJonamiteInc reported for spam lol.
@TheSlammurai
@TheSlammurai Ай бұрын
Shortly after? VERY shortly after. It wasn't even 24 hours later.
@Jonathanloh1992
@Jonathanloh1992 Ай бұрын
Avoiding the truth is very painful if anything happens to our oshi.
@BHolyCow
@BHolyCow Ай бұрын
I started watching Hololive this year
@我就爛-l1h
@我就爛-l1h Ай бұрын
what I think (and some ppl in ease asia) is happening in hololive is since Cover is listed, the share holders in Japan want to make the most profit, and at least in Japan the route of "idols sometimes do some game streaming" is more profitable than "gamers sometimes do some idol performance" so people like Aqua, Amelia and Fauna may not find themselves fit in that atmosphere anymore one of the big evidence is that if you look at the new generation (DEV_IS), 3 out of 5 was idol, even from AKB or NMB they sure are adjusting their direction
@我就爛-l1h
@我就爛-l1h Ай бұрын
also, the past life account part following each other is kinda trend among them at least in JP member so I don't view that as any sign
@LuckeeStrikee
@LuckeeStrikee Ай бұрын
The whole "shareholders want more profit" argument makes no sense. If that was the case, they'd cut Holostars off before losing big talents like Aqua or Fauna.
@我就爛-l1h
@我就爛-l1h Ай бұрын
@@LuckeeStrikee well i have no idea about holostars but DEI imo cannot infiltrate into Cover when they are this small or do you really believe its DEI? then holoJP must be cleared cuz they are not the way those alphabetical humen being like
@LuckeeStrikee
@LuckeeStrikee Ай бұрын
@@我就爛-l1h I have no clue, just like the rest of this comment section spouting nonsensical rrats about woke garbage and such.
@Kensuke0987
@Kensuke0987 Ай бұрын
@@LuckeeStrikee i heard Holostars barely ever has support already a clip about Altare complaining about an essential 3D-tracking device not getting fixed, gathering dust, for 4 months, and then he fixed it himself in an hour came out recently
@domoniquebrooks816
@domoniquebrooks816 Ай бұрын
With the announcement of the US HQ in California and hearing "inclusive" and "diverse" mentioned in internal documents, Hololive has two strikes in my book. My Kamioshi is leaving soon, and though there are talents remaining that I would still like to support, I will drop Hololive like a rock if I so much as get a whiff of woke influence from within. I'm tired of my hobbies and escapism being infiltrated and ruined by Marxist activists.
@SherrifOfNottingham
@SherrifOfNottingham Ай бұрын
I never supported idol culture I am curious to see what happens when the investors known for using DEI to boost "value" find out that idol culture, and all the oddities like graduation and the company owning the likeness rights of their talents, was built so producers could have a harem of underage girls.
@comyuse9103
@comyuse9103 Ай бұрын
...do you even know what marxism is? thought not
@ESL1984
@ESL1984 Ай бұрын
For some strange reason I have been having bad vibes from Holo live for a while now. This is why my new oshis and favorite company is now phase connect.
@UltimateThanos
@UltimateThanos Ай бұрын
Anyone who goes about with "diversity" and "inclusion" on their lips is a child cannibalizing Luciferian.
@leipzigergnom
@leipzigergnom Ай бұрын
It's good to know that many vtuber and anime enjoyers see through the neo-marxist bull-crap. I don't know if Hololive is gonna go downhill or not, but it's just nice to know that Rev and his viewers are aware of the far-left agenda in most large corporations.
@ChiePet_
@ChiePet_ Ай бұрын
Clearly an issue of a Company being Public and investors making changes the talents disagree with enough to leave. now i say clearly, but thats just in my opinion based on what feels right based on how broad a statement "Disagreement with management" is.
@dantesparrow9903
@dantesparrow9903 Ай бұрын
Well like you said it’s broad so we won’t know what it really means unless Fauna says what she meant either as Ceras Fauna or LemonLeaf
@ethenortiz257
@ethenortiz257 Ай бұрын
I will say this my heart is deeply sinking not gonna lie
@bandarr69
@bandarr69 Ай бұрын
I'm losing sanity fr
@lostnemesis
@lostnemesis Ай бұрын
This is a multi-faceted issue for cover and the fandom. Because they've never had this many graduations before or just overall talent leaving which has now spurred discussion on the reason why? And what's the cause, For me I find it fascinating because now people are recognizing stuff like Gura in a membership stream talking about a myriad of projects that were shut down and she wasn't reimbursed and all that time was wasted. And regis altare absolutely just going off by his standards about how cover Corp doesn't help them and it's just better if he does it himself, this is a really interesting time for their company they (because of their inflexibility) opened themselves up to inspection. A consistent Theme throughout their graduated talents is the mentioning of management and now people are looking at the monolith that Holo was the infallible thing that they were and now realizing that they weren't so golden after all. Edit: I suddenly came back and saw all the mistakes from me not really paying attention and then fighting my keyboard. I'm using a phone and it is doing the randomly deleting things problem.
@GenshinLover283
@GenshinLover283 Ай бұрын
I saw that clip of Altare you're alluding to. The fact they couldn't (or wouldn't) do something that he ended up having to do himself and said thing only took him 1 hour is not a good look
@SherrifOfNottingham
@SherrifOfNottingham Ай бұрын
It never was, I never really got invested in any of the hololive talent because idol culture is disgusting. Hololive never was any different from all the other "black companies" but people ignored it because they loved the talents. If you love the talents you should stop supporting Hololive, their bits and donations during streams do NOT go to the talents or even their support team. They go to the top, overhead for all the other talents they'll build from the ground up. Gura does the bare minimum because it turns their salary against them, she doesn't get more money from streaming... so why do it? Why not sit back and just do the merch deals, collabs, and concerts which are the only places where participation effects your paycheck. They don't get money from superchats, so STOP GIVING THEM SUPERCHATS
@lilporky8565
@lilporky8565 Ай бұрын
They were golden until they went public. The soul of every company, without exception, is sold to the devil the moment they go public. Any entertainment company that does this immediately becomes dead to me. We had a good run.
@Kensuke0987
@Kensuke0987 Ай бұрын
> golden i think people forgot about (or wasn't around when) the thing with Coco happened that huge market share was really hard to let go until Bilibili cut them off themselves, and _only_ then they could go 100% for Coco (or at least that's how it looked like... she still had to go) also, i've heard of a certain talent's projects for fans getting rejected only for it to be used for other talents; and this was happening as far back as 2021.
@nicksjacku9750
@nicksjacku9750 Ай бұрын
Black Rock is going to destroy Hololive
@ricardohoang8452
@ricardohoang8452 Ай бұрын
Rockrock will turn Hololive into dust 😢
@ciniapacifica8211
@ciniapacifica8211 Ай бұрын
Wait... are they already Invest crap on Hololive?
@BathalaBeril
@BathalaBeril Ай бұрын
@@ciniapacifica8211 the 3 horseman blackrock, vanguard and statestreet already entered Hololive
@ciniapacifica8211
@ciniapacifica8211 Ай бұрын
@@BathalaBeril Great... 3 Horseman... its bad bad bad news indeed
@ricardohoang8452
@ricardohoang8452 Ай бұрын
@@ciniapacifica8211 RockRock alone makes Hololive look like dust
@Wibbels
@Wibbels Ай бұрын
11:05 That is 100% what i think is happening, even if they may not make more profit, getting rid of all the stress from management, meetings and so on for sure covers up for the profit, and some of these talents now have the experience to do streaming confidently rather than the uncertainty they may of had before when EN Vtubing was kinda sketchy as it was seen as a JP niche
@breakingmeta007
@breakingmeta007 Ай бұрын
It all went shit when A-chan graduated 😢
@lazyboyterry
@lazyboyterry Ай бұрын
A chan's grandmother is dying, she went back to her hometown to take care of her.
@jorgenjorgensen2739
@jorgenjorgensen2739 Ай бұрын
Wait... A-Chan graduated?!
@moriyamananaki8888
@moriyamananaki8888 Ай бұрын
A chan have a legit reason to leave, don't drag her into this
@gingeral253
@gingeral253 Ай бұрын
A-Chan and all the other talents deserve the freedom to do what they wish with their life. However, I wonder how crucial A-Chan actually was to the company given her role in the development of it. Hopefully the staff remaining will do a good job uploading what she build alongside Yagoo.
@FullchanAnon
@FullchanAnon Ай бұрын
​@@jorgenjorgensen2739bro...
@fuentesjuanjose90
@fuentesjuanjose90 Ай бұрын
Why are these Japanese companies opening branches in California. Should just open them in Texas. Elon moved his company to Texas for a reason 😂
@negirno
@negirno Ай бұрын
One reason for that is that it's closer, basically on the other side of the pond, another more sinister reason is that most of the Westerners who go to Japan are the rich California kids and they basically network with the Westaboo Japanese, getting into Japanese companies and whisper into the executive's ears.
@Rill_1
@Rill_1 Ай бұрын
Need to raise their ESG scores, before Visa blacklists them.
@talkingtakotaco8611
@talkingtakotaco8611 Ай бұрын
While I'm sure the Japanese have some understanding of American culture, I don't think they truly know about what California is like and just see it as a business hub, especially for tech and entertainment, which hololive is all about.
@MrDoomlz
@MrDoomlz Ай бұрын
Just not Austin, Texas. Since it's literally turning into the California of Texas
@Peb02497
@Peb02497 Ай бұрын
because california is closer to japan than Texas or NYC. also there's already a hub of tech companies there and a sizable eastern asian community.
@RomanEngine
@RomanEngine Ай бұрын
I said a few months ago that Hololive touched by BlackRock would fall faster than Nijisanji. And it's fucking happening.
@merafirewing6591
@merafirewing6591 Ай бұрын
This is a horror that alot would've certainly have deep dread about.
@MrJcTTK
@MrJcTTK Ай бұрын
Yes because that not even one percent really means much right
@sirizalot
@sirizalot Ай бұрын
What is Black Rock? Everyone keeps mentioning it, but I've never heard of it.
@Banana-cc5rx
@Banana-cc5rx Ай бұрын
​@sirizalot black rock is basically a huge hedge fund investment company. Simply put, they have shit ton of money and can invest / buyout control from the owners. Its why people do not want Cover to go public where external investors can influence how they do things once they invest shit load of money
@Superluigi881
@Superluigi881 Ай бұрын
@@sirizalotThey are a company that reward companies more money the more DEI slop they put into their games. Their CEO Larry Fink can be quoted as saying that they are "forcing behaviours". His words not mine.
@iiiiiiiiiiiiililiiiiio
@iiiiiiiiiiiiililiiiiio Ай бұрын
Machinima , Smosh and Maker Studios: "First time?"
@ElderSign32
@ElderSign32 Ай бұрын
even if hololive fully collapses, the talents are all coming back as indie. if anything, itll be better with them not having all the restraints of cover corp
@mobiuszero1018
@mobiuszero1018 Ай бұрын
Going indie seems to be the way of the future,for better or worse depending on one's views..
@arttizkappa2588
@arttizkappa2588 Ай бұрын
Yeah they can even build their own group just like ame build en foundation before
@quantum5661
@quantum5661 Ай бұрын
its the games industry all over again. down with triple A, long live indie and double A.
@nappa1413
@nappa1413 Ай бұрын
This, i hope they all leave so they return as indies
@nappa1413
@nappa1413 Ай бұрын
@@quantum5661 stop noticing patterns 😭 😭
@Wesrl
@Wesrl Ай бұрын
5:58 I think hololive would have benefited more by opening in the midwest or Southeast because they are a lot cheaper in every way. A lot of talent would also be able to easily live in those areas as well because of this.
@labrynianrebel
@labrynianrebel Ай бұрын
Exactly, an internet company has no reason to be in these megacities. They can be anywhere.
@Ultimokingofblades
@Ultimokingofblades Ай бұрын
Altare of Holostars has had some issues with projects being last minute cancelled on him too
@brandonhowell5096
@brandonhowell5096 Ай бұрын
Thats nothing new to Holostars though
@kamuireina9868
@kamuireina9868 Ай бұрын
Let's hope there isn't anymore. My heart would break if Marine decides to leave.
@TenkuuNoKishi
@TenkuuNoKishi Ай бұрын
I will be heart broken as well, if she does though, I do hope that she will become an indie vtuber.
@ZevianAlter
@ZevianAlter Ай бұрын
If that happens it's over.
@RandomMackem0069_Official
@RandomMackem0069_Official Ай бұрын
I would give up if Liz leaves
@Spontaneousanonymous000
@Spontaneousanonymous000 Ай бұрын
If Korone is graduated or terminated, the spontaneous anonymous council will TAKE NO PRISONERS- The Spontaneous Anonymous Council
@VEKTOR_
@VEKTOR_ Ай бұрын
i said the exact thing for fauna when chloe left, hope literally lasted a day 💀
@oatkungar
@oatkungar Ай бұрын
US office based in CA? It's over, we have a good run.
@periodicdragonflare5572
@periodicdragonflare5572 Ай бұрын
Wdym United by boundaries? Why do we even need that? Whats the point of that poster? For 4 years Hololive has united European’s, North American’s, Indonesian’s, SE Asian’s with some in South America and Africa as a whole. I could go up to anyone that is a Hololive fan and we could both talk about Hololive. That’s like having a diverse friend group and then having an interview come in and ask if you support Diversity. No, these are people. Why are they seen as a different race? It’s a person, they have a name.
@k1ll3rcombo25
@k1ll3rcombo25 Ай бұрын
If any other myth members leave, its over. I like biboo and gigi a lot but it feels like they are too new to make any desicion on going independent.
@Hyperslayer_X
@Hyperslayer_X Ай бұрын
Biboo flat out said that she loves where she’s at and has no plans of going anywhere. I highly doubt Gigi is going anywhere either. Don’t fall for all the doomposting, even Shiori has said most of it is baseless speculation.
@VCofdaG
@VCofdaG Ай бұрын
@@Hyperslayer_X That's just blatant conformism. You're telling someone to stop thinking for themselves and instead follow what the streamer said. You're a kid, bro.
@Hyperslayer_X
@Hyperslayer_X Ай бұрын
@@VCofdaG No, it isn't? I have no reason not to believe Biboo when she said she likes her job. You are the one being a child here, dude. Because you would rather doompost or believe in all the doomerism rather than accept what the talent herself said. I never said there won't be others possibly graduating, but it is unlikely that Pekora, Irys, Bae, La+, Shirori, Biboo, Cecilia, or Raora will be one of them based on what they said. There's nothing childish about believing what people say when you have no reason to suspect them to be lying.
@Kroxie
@Kroxie Ай бұрын
@@Hyperslayer_X Believing in what a streamer said is pure cope and blind conformity. You can't expect people to have faith when we don't have a complete view as to what's happening inside Hololive/Cover despite the shit show that's publicly known right now.
@Gundam_Rusty
@Gundam_Rusty Ай бұрын
@@Hyperslayer_X No room for nuance my guy, you're talking to rightoids who were liberals at one point in their lives. "Conformist" "Bootlicker" "Bro think for yourself" They'll throw out the same buzzwords and phrases without a hint of irony. Do they even know the talents own leanings? They don't even know Fauna is a bisexual vegan which proves they don't watch streams and are tourists themselves. They are just NOW finding that basic corporate manifesto when they're like 8 months late on the uptake. They don't know the office in California is for sponsorships and partnerships, of course that doesn't mean they can't or won't expand it down the line but come on. Do they know that the talents themselves criticize management? Of course they don't. A talent coming out and saying they're fine and aren't forced to do things means they must be. What they said about the situation is behind a paywall? Corporate shills they'll say. They will continue to beg for graduations and preach that the indie scene is better when in fact it's filled with the biggest grifters and drama magnets known to man. Even better is when they start console warring vtuber corpos and tell you to watch their *tasteful* corp instead. There are indeed problems with management on some level because what was known of Faunas manager is that they didn't watch her streams and would saddle her with last minute work, which is a classic power tripper move. She did complain about him in at least one members stream describing that they axed one of the songs she wanted to sing and replaced it with one that notoriously gets CR striked often and when her 3D debut came guess what, it was down for a few days until that was resolved. This is amongst 1 or 2 other negative points she made about them. I don't know if she even talked with the other girls or tried to get a new manager since it's widely known that managers get consistently canned at Hololive when the talents make a scene over it. Either way, leave these people to their conspiracy theories, they don't know any better.
@infinitepotato001
@infinitepotato001 Ай бұрын
It fucking hurts man. What is cover management doing rn man....
@bashamd96
@bashamd96 Ай бұрын
Stock holders are demanding change
@stickfigure8416
@stickfigure8416 Ай бұрын
Honestly at this point if you let your business go public you deserve to lose it
@kinglightning5256
@kinglightning5256 Ай бұрын
If you look at lamy reaction, this was unavoidable it seemed like whatever decision they made this year they was going to lose talents disagreeing with them and fans questioning them. It was neither grow and expand and lose talents who would want to do things there own pace like ame,aqua,fauna and chole or stay stable and not take the chance to grow overseas and there are talents in hololive talents who would want to grow overseas and would leave hololive if things stayed the same if hololive didn't take that chance.
@bashamd96
@bashamd96 Ай бұрын
​@stickfigure8416 They didn't let it was either do this or sell the company
@popothecat9760
@popothecat9760 Ай бұрын
​@bashamd96 and who exactly pressured yagoo with those choices? And why does that sounds like blackmail?
@kamuireina9868
@kamuireina9868 Ай бұрын
Becoming a corpo vtuber, the cons seem to eventually outweigh the pros.
@Seyanoo
@Seyanoo Ай бұрын
Honestly yeah, you have to censor yourself, they also have to approve what games they also play, so I don’t see how that can be any fun. I can see why some go independent
@cfcblue8
@cfcblue8 Ай бұрын
You know what they say, you either die a hero…
@josueveguilla9069
@josueveguilla9069 Ай бұрын
Indeed
@OhGeeGanksta
@OhGeeGanksta Ай бұрын
Probably just depends on your own goals. Just like with real jobs. You work for a corporation, they have more rules. But they also pay better and look better on your resume. (The resume part won’t matter if you go indie though.) Probably gives them more experience doing different things too. Like an indie vtuber probably wouldn’t have been hired to do a gig with the Dodgers.
@creativename2567
@creativename2567 Ай бұрын
Not really. They can leave whenever they want and take a large portion of their viewers with them.
@dawson9652
@dawson9652 Ай бұрын
I mainly watch Phase Connect, but I really hope hololive doesn't ruin them selves.
@StochasticUniverse
@StochasticUniverse Ай бұрын
9:00 You're misconstruing what's being said. They aren't replacing "graduation" with "end of distrbution activities" as a euphemism; instead, both will exist, going forward, as two different forms of graduation. "Ending distribution activities" basically means graduating the Ameway, where you remain an "affiliate" of the company (which they've never really explained, so this is actually highly significant). It elaborates that affiliates are graduates who Hololive hopes "will have the opportunity to deliver limited activities in the future, as if a graduate who happens to be at the right time will show up at his alma mater by agreeing with the intention of the production in future projects and the will of the talent." It goes on to state that traditional graduation (severing all ties with the company, as Faura has announced) and remaining an affiliate (as Ame and Chloe have) are both equally respectable options. One just retains a very loose attachment to the company and leaves the door open to working with the company in the future, while the other represents a total severance. In practice, no affiliate has yet done anything with the company post-graduation since "affiliated" graduation is only a couple of months old at this point, so they remain untested waters. If nothing else, it affects PR because it speaks to "affiliates" basically graduating on good terms with Cover, while non-affiliated graduates have left with more of a grudge against the company, having voluntarily foreclosed the possibility of doing anything with the company again in the future (basically because the company has lost their faith and/or trust, such as by bad management, for example).
@hughswanson2354
@hughswanson2354 Ай бұрын
Its honestly sad to hear the news, but its an process now. Indie Tuber joins Corbo Tuber as a group (to make a name or want something new). Then switch back to indie again with a fanbase. If you 're a sapling, you already know Fuana "Past Life" Tuber. Back with the same personality you know and love. Also it doesn't make your feelings invalid, it sucks not having the same model when she goes live tho.
@HamHamHampster
@HamHamHampster Ай бұрын
The way I see it, Dokibird and Dooby3D got an upgrade, and I am sure LemonLeaf will do the same.
@SherrifOfNottingham
@SherrifOfNottingham Ай бұрын
LemonLeaf On non associated channels please just direct people directly Don't do it on her channels so you don't risk her breaking her NDA by not removing your content, but on videos like this please tell people where to find the talent in a clear and direct way.
@kinglightning5256
@kinglightning5256 Ай бұрын
Based on my opinion off the cilps lamy and bae said hololive has changed and it seemed unavoidable so i feel like no one should blame hololive or the talents that didn't agree with the change. For example there would have been talents that wanted to leave hololive if it stayed stable and not taken the chance to grow bigger like lamy said. Hololive has like 40 or 50 talents and it's impossible to keep everyone happy with your decision. We should all be happy that everyone is leaving with good terms and they can say i will continue streaming when i leave hololive and not leaving like nijisanji talents
@Ryuto0816
@Ryuto0816 Ай бұрын
The problem is Fauna doesnt seem to leave in good term. That's why her graduation has a lot of heat.
@kinglightning5256
@kinglightning5256 Ай бұрын
@Ryuto0816 disagreement with management can imply many things we both know that hololive have gotten more strict with rules trying to avoid drama because like we know hololive is trying to expand. Now 100 percent hololive can do better on the management department like we saw with Regis. But management can imply a lot of things.
@dkosmari
@dkosmari Ай бұрын
Cover is probably taking stock of what is profitable, what is risky, and where they can grow. They decided to depend less on streaming revenue, because they think there's more potential with other activities. It's hard to fault them, they still need to justify that massive mocap studio investment. What sucks is that they had a bad business plan in the past, and contracted talents based on that bad plan; now, with the new business plan, not everyone fits in. What's worse, it looks like the company was also not prepared for the new plan, that's why management keeps screwing up.
@kevlarandchrome
@kevlarandchrome Ай бұрын
Kroni was complaining a few months ago about major problems she was having with management.
@MrJcTTK
@MrJcTTK Ай бұрын
That was about game permissions and it's already been resolved
@wurststar9023
@wurststar9023 Ай бұрын
bro what the hell "Graduation" sounds bittersweet while "End of Distribution Activities" sounds like they're getting "rid" of the person in question
@csuree87
@csuree87 Ай бұрын
I have a feeling the real problem is that instead of working where and how they want to work, the company is now pushing them to work as the company wants... and when they take this initiative it creates huge problems. I bet they want to work their talents to the ground and starting to behave like idol agencies. We hope this will not be the end of the golden era of hololive
@rudy_m_g6748
@rudy_m_g6748 Ай бұрын
Gura wouldn’t surprise me if she did actually graduate but, Besides a few prerecorded videos, Ina has also been kinda quiet these past few months…. 🤔
@darkkeybladers
@darkkeybladers Ай бұрын
Hasn't Ina had a lot of issues with her visa and vaguely stuck in hiatus with work because of it?
@matheusferraz18
@matheusferraz18 Ай бұрын
​@@darkkeybladers the takodachis will return to the void noooooooo
@rudy_m_g6748
@rudy_m_g6748 Ай бұрын
@@darkkeybladers I also think she has personal issues, but having all that piled up plus with management changing… idk 🤷🏽‍♂️ just saying, be on the ready
@KalloSkull
@KalloSkull Ай бұрын
From the outside looking in, it really looks like Gura, Mumei and Ina are hanging on by a thread.
@rudy_m_g6748
@rudy_m_g6748 Ай бұрын
@@KalloSkull I agree, this year has not been nice to Holo EN
@FactoryDan
@FactoryDan Ай бұрын
Not sure how it works but hopefully some of the talent have enough of a following to do it on their own at this point. Not every vtuber is part of a big company. Like kirsche or fillian for example
@f145hr3831jr
@f145hr3831jr Ай бұрын
I wonder what Kirsche would think about Cover expanding in California. My first guess is she wouldn't be optimistic in the slightest about it.
@sparking023
@sparking023 Ай бұрын
​@@f145hr3831jr i bet she would be concerned, especially knowing who's on Cover's investment board. Thanks to the Foxu, I too got a good woke language detector, and those company announcements are definitely blinking positive for woke shit. Going to Commiefornia was a mistake
@DerekPaksa
@DerekPaksa Ай бұрын
Just remember, fans invest in talent. You can have better a technology/ studio/ artist/ resources but the talent is the one who pull the string.
@Endcsline
@Endcsline Ай бұрын
I have a feeling if a generation has only 2-3 members left, they'll merge them with other groups which would feel sad it's like in school, when my class merged with another one, we all got along but the bond of having started together was just not there
@cha_21
@cha_21 Ай бұрын
The West investor starts lurking in Japanese Market tells me enough. ~Anime ✅ ~Game Industry ✅ ~ Vtuber✅ Who's behind it? BLACKROCK
@nappa1413
@nappa1413 Ай бұрын
you already know 😶
@Dorian_Scott
@Dorian_Scott Ай бұрын
Chloe & Fauna announcing their graduations back to back is a red flag in and of itself.
@nerissaravencroftsmissinghorn
@nerissaravencroftsmissinghorn Ай бұрын
its just poor announcement timing but they decided to leave months and months ago. It only just got announced now.
@HenshinFanatic
@HenshinFanatic Ай бұрын
Hololive has "become a real company". Shareholders go 💨.
@josueveguilla9069
@josueveguilla9069 Ай бұрын
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Not Chloe, too! 😭
@HumanPerson_final
@HumanPerson_final Ай бұрын
Maybe, maybe not. I do think if they start hiring entertainment industry “talent” from California, the company will go fully woke. People in that area in that industry can’t help themselves.
@Spaghetty
@Spaghetty Ай бұрын
@@nerissaravencroftsmissinghorn I dont think its poor announcement timing. As you said, theyve decided this months ago but it seems like they wanted the talents announcements to be spread out throughout the year as to not attract too much bad press. But the fact that nearly a handful of talents wanted to leave due to management is already concerning and people are noticing
@Haganu
@Haganu Ай бұрын
Management issues tend to not mean issues with top level management but with lower levels. The term can be used so broadly that they might as well say "we'll leave it up to you guys to figure out why I graduated". Ultimately for EN, the talents that want to have a long term stay at Hololive end up moving to Japan. Much better support there. As concerning as the changes may be higher up the corporate ladder, it doesn't take away that lower in the management sandwich the woes towards management have been there for a long time for many talents, regardless of level of success, gender, generation or nationality. It ranges from annoyance to incompetence. My canary in the Holomine still is Shirakami. If she's out, matter of time when Holo collapses.
@Swanjeff1
@Swanjeff1 Ай бұрын
Rev : nijisanji no Nijisanji : I’m right here Rev : sorry force off habit Hololive NOOOO!!!!!
@fierytigergaming8112
@fierytigergaming8112 Ай бұрын
Pretty much everyone who was hoping to get ammunition against Nijisanji in a nutshell.
@jamesklee
@jamesklee Ай бұрын
Thanks for these updates - I don't follow Cover as its own entity at all, so I wasn't aware of the things hinting at internal shifts in direction. I was just sad about Fauna graduating, glad it led me here.
@markF0601
@markF0601 Ай бұрын
It's sad that Sakamata Chloe and Ceres Fauna are Graduating (aka Retiring), but, the IRL personalities behind Sakamata and Fauna need to focus on their physical and mental health rather than exhaust their capabilities remaining as Hololive members. Still, I wish both Sakamata and Fauna well in their future endeavors. Also, I hate to say this, but, Hololive had a good run. And because of the Revelation that Blackrock and Vanguard are one of the investors for Cover Corporation (parent company of Hololive), I guess sadly, it's the beginning of the end for Hololive.
@Snawsages
@Snawsages Ай бұрын
I feel the issue may be a change in Hololive instructions to management. Cover going public feels like it is going to start down the same hole as Anycolor did and I think some of the talents saw the writing on the wall with company policy updates to abide by investor instruction. Time will tell but I think if any talents wanting their freedom instead of being used like a product more may be heading out.
@liladoodle
@liladoodle Ай бұрын
People are doomposting that Cover Corp. & Hololive are becoming more and more like Anycolor & Nijisanji. But until things actually get there, I'm holding back my judgement.
@guliverjham8148
@guliverjham8148 Ай бұрын
The wall has many scribles.
@Ars3nLup1n
@Ars3nLup1n Ай бұрын
Yeah, we're still very far from the drama that are each and every Niji graduations
@RandomPerson964
@RandomPerson964 Ай бұрын
The phrase "end of distribution activities" offends me. Change it, Cover Corp.
@ZeusFootball7462
@ZeusFootball7462 Ай бұрын
This seems more like a mistranslation of the word “haishin”, which is used to mean “streaming” but also has meanings of “transmission,” “broadcast”, and “distribution” built into it.
@KeltkeGH
@KeltkeGH Ай бұрын
@@ZeusFootball7462 sounds a little better but still bad overall.
@cardescomedioses3674
@cardescomedioses3674 Ай бұрын
Word efficiency be damned, why not let's call it "put her down on the back shed"
@UMninja
@UMninja Ай бұрын
Going public is lethal, it's literally illegal to pursue anything other than immediate profit, even if the fans fundraised Yagoo into a majority holding.
@JoeNaJoes
@JoeNaJoes Ай бұрын
This is happened to a lot of people tho, company change and expand sometimes it is not for everyone i left my previous company bcs they change working from home to working on site, and working from home suit me well, so i left and fortunately i got better position at the company that i am working on right now, company changing always gonna be affected a lot of people ,well atleast that what i hope from hololive there is no crazy sht going on.
@mikeguy6069
@mikeguy6069 Ай бұрын
On the Gura point. I think its fine shes not streaming as long as she doesnt officially graduate. For the benefit of both Cover and herself. For Cover because they can use her in sponsorships and all that. And then for her so that she's kind of the figurehead to point to to keep all the weird vtweeter/tubers in check. Overall, I'll say that its just unfortunate timing how close these last two graduation announcements were, but as long as the talents say they're fine and not leaving, then nothing is wrong. I will miss Fauna a lot and hope that when she goes back to her PL she somehow incorporates that model to 🍋 🍃
@Goldrusher187
@Goldrusher187 Ай бұрын
Oooohhhh Lemonleaf, I completely forgotten about her, I was subbed to her asmr channel lol
@raresuwako6796
@raresuwako6796 Ай бұрын
Fishman looking through a coffee bean coated pair of binoculars, watching giants collapse, sitting in his comfort of his warehouse domain, while hearing scratching below the warehouse, the gears lubricated with coffee and sea water, the belts made of the pods, and the caffeine mixed with mold, mental illness, girlfails, hags, and seisos
@XionSteel
@XionSteel Ай бұрын
12:00 Ye, very few people have actual brand loyalty since most of the fan interest is in the talents, so its much easier to jump ship as long as you know where your favourite talent is going, or worst case sticking around in hopes that going public doesn't make your favourite vtubers miserable.
@lammatt
@lammatt Ай бұрын
and Gura has been radio silence since Ame left, aka Oct1 and the #1 fan of Gawr Gura changed the twitter profile mid Oct
@lostjustice
@lostjustice Ай бұрын
Like I mentioned in a previous comment in another video Rev did regarding this topic, a lot of those Japanese companies on that list does support DEI. Also, as mentioned before, we also have to look at how much shares Vanguard and Blackrock have in those companies on that list as well.
@IshimurA99
@IshimurA99 Ай бұрын
Hololive has changed their direction in recent years, and the departure of fauna or Chloe is the result of this change :(
@Exoduce
@Exoduce Ай бұрын
Ugh that design is very woke indeed, the moment they go woke would probably be the beginning of the end. I doubt it'll affect the talents (existing) too much but i see it affecting the company overall. Plus going woke does have one very big concern for fans of the future talents as they might start... let's just say breaching the trust of the fans in regard to previously assumed standards in hiring new talents.
@rivee_alurra26
@rivee_alurra26 Ай бұрын
Even altare from the holostar complained on live stream about the management
@azurerider812
@azurerider812 Ай бұрын
A. Its Altare. Altair is the Assassin's Creed protag B. Sickening to know that some fans will cheer on for this mistreatment just because he's the wrong chromosome.
@rivee_alurra26
@rivee_alurra26 Ай бұрын
Oh thank you I did not notice
@Boskov01
@Boskov01 Ай бұрын
I remember someone saying a while back that Japan seems to be about 4 to 10 years behind the US in terms of social trends. Given some of the evidence in this video, I worry they might've been correct. One of the reasons Japanese anime and manga has become so popular the past few years, is because the US entertainment industry crashed and burned with stuff nobody wanted to see. Because Wokeness infested it and made it intolerable. Now we're seeing a visible pushback against DEI and wokeness in the West. Now looking at these developments with Cover, their going public, the main culprits of wokeness Blackrock and Vanguard owning stock in Cover, that suspicious statement with the clipart (which features the blue, white, and pink colors of a certain woke flag rather prominently), and the added english paragraph promoting "Inclusivity" and "Diversity" two of the biggest red flag buzzwords for Wokeness, and capping it all off with the establishment of an American HQ in California, the mecca of wokeness, it does look very concerning and suspicious when it comes to the direction the company is going. It's worrisome. Cover is still, in my opinion, arguably the best VTuber company out there right now. They're the Golden Age Walt Disney Company of VTuber Agencies imo. These could be the early signs of a bad change. Whether it's an embrace of wokeness or not, we'll have to see. Praying it's not. I don't want Cover to go down having to learn the Business Law of "Get Woke, Go Broke" the hard way. That all being said, some other people have been suggesting that the company is making a foolish decision to move away from streaming and VTubing and more towards live concerts and collaboration events like they did with the Dodgers. Less having to share money with YT that way. This could be the main reason and the added pressure to do live events could be pushing talents to leave. The "Homework" as some have called it. And both could be true at once, both the shift towards live events and a slow embrace of wokeness. Praying it's not the case and that these end up just being false alarms. Only time will tell for sure.
@ArcanistBlack
@ArcanistBlack Ай бұрын
Fauna is my oshi, with Fauna going I am not sure how long I will keep watching Hololive.
@theshadowmaster2702
@theshadowmaster2702 Ай бұрын
As soon as Cover went more global and wanted to please the investors, I believe Aqua graduated within the same week as that news. The holomembers are definitely being told that they either need to do certain things & don’t do certain things, all which are probably stuff they are uncomfortable with. Aqua literally said she was leaving because the company had a recent change in everything from management, priorities, and to what her basic role was. She stated that it changed from what she originally signed up for in the first place so the company is clearly making drastic changes that are making the talents uncomfortable.
@jaylenharris343
@jaylenharris343 Ай бұрын
What sucks is that they have no choice, it's either go public or go bankrupt. And if you go public, you're basically asking Blackrock and Vanguard to take control.
@Chatto_Neko_Ch.
@Chatto_Neko_Ch. Ай бұрын
Are Blackrock and Vanguard the only two investment companies surely there’s more then just them
@BurghezulDjentilom
@BurghezulDjentilom Ай бұрын
I'd rather go out swinging than whimpering
@KoKoKen
@KoKoKen Ай бұрын
i had no idea who fauna was im not super into the corporate vtuber sphere but wow i knew lemonleaf before that was even her handle! thats crazy! happy to see how far she went.
@wyblackwolf
@wyblackwolf Ай бұрын
wow... I seen this AFTER Gura just had her first memeber stream in months, which by the way she's doing ok just taking care of her health first and foremost, which makes me happy 🥰
@ETG715
@ETG715 Ай бұрын
They might as well say graduation as Fired at this point for what cover is going with
@Reapler59
@Reapler59 Ай бұрын
why? as far as I know Fauna is the only one who specifically said that she is leaving because of management
@bashamd96
@bashamd96 Ай бұрын
Graduation is leaving on good terms you're thinking of termination
@ETG715
@ETG715 Ай бұрын
@@bashamd96 Well she's graduating do to management being crap so she's technically not leaving on good terms
@bashamd96
@bashamd96 Ай бұрын
@@ETG715 It's good terms until she violates her contract
@ETG715
@ETG715 Ай бұрын
@@bashamd96 I don't see how leaving because of disagreement with management is good terms
@bruhverlybruh4012
@bruhverlybruh4012 Ай бұрын
Investors ruin a lot. Work or not. It also means they can be bought out by competition and killed off purposely.
@Blue-Viking
@Blue-Viking Ай бұрын
Going public could be the biggest mistake that Cover has ever done.
@restlessGuy69
@restlessGuy69 Ай бұрын
It just sucks man, either Yagoo is forced to sell the company or he went public in the stock market. It truly was a lose lose situation. End of the day I trust the word of talents more than the rumors of strangers and doomposters On the bright side I’ve already comes to terms with Fauna graduating and I’m looking forward to her re-debut and hopefully a DoobyLemon collab
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