SCARY LEGENDARY!! Best card yet? Freeze DK!? | Paradise Review #11

[@AntheanCeilliers]

Any "for the rest of game" effects is potentially really scary good.

[@The_Holland]

They is, they is

[@edrueter9]

Correct, provided that blizzard allows the games to go past turn 5. The initial meta for this set is going to be crazy fast. After the week 2 nerfs, this will be absolutely true.

[@udllord]

Eliza GoreBlade is a BG effect come to standard gonna be scary if we can get multiple of that deathrattle

[@TheSkullkid777]

Yelling Yodeler comes to mind

[@alexex8169]

be sure of this, and here the advantage is within everyone's reach, building the best strategy to win matches, but it is already not a surprise that you will be able to fuse with multiple effects of this card, if you have 3 cards in your pack minions charge and your enemy is completely open, it's your match for sure!!!

[@murlocmasher3368]

4/3 with deathrattle. Anub’arak, costs 4. Tier 4 minion. Should’ve just reintroduced Anub as a DK card, and gave him sun glasses.

[@Satherian]

Wait, so Eliza's deathrattle turns DK's hero power into its upgraded form (summon a 2/1 ghoul) alongside buffing the rest of your minions? And can trigger multiple times? WTH?

[@KidOmega-iv4tp]

yep, it's like playing Odd Dk without needing the setup. It's bonkers.

[@dannylight7022]

i mean, its not as strong as you think it is, its 2024 hs we talking here

[@edrueter9]

Yeah, this is an aggro card disguised as a mid game or value card.

[@spookypoker3747]

Eliza being blood & frost just makes no sense thematically

[@PettyGamerBoy]

Ikr seems like the ultimate unholy synergy

[@PlasmaPony]

I really wish they would just move away from the rune system. It’s a gimmick that ran out of steam really fast and feels limiting rather than interesting

[@huttslayer38]

Ikr giving minion's attack is more of an unholy thing same with deathrattles

[@Alliclare]

@@PlasmaPony If they do that then I hope that they delete Frostwyrm’s fury from the game. In general, all of the 3 rune cards are too strong to all be able to be played in a single deck.

[@BlackGunter]

Makes all the sense balance wise tho.

[@happygbug]

It only took several expansions but cage head and the deathrattle gameplan from festival of legends finally getting support

[@slamjamtime202]

This "for the rest of the game" effect became popular while Shadowverse was in its prime. Some of them have the ability to be stacked, I foresee the way this card gets nerfed is to limit it to only one application per game. This one definitely strikes me as one that should only occur once

[@KrivitskyM]

They printed new ways to give DR minions Reborn and a Warlock legendary that makes DRs trigger twice (and is available together with Elisa), so I think they intended for this effect to happen multiple times. I do agree that for the sake of the game's health it should be "Once per game".

[@LTDextel]

Frozen Freebooter does not say "different" enemies, so it dying could pyroblast the enemy face on an empty board.

[@drawmeka9349]

Is it not implied? If it said "Freeze a random enemy 3 times" that would seem like the intention

[@LTDextel]

@@drawmeka9349 Regis failed to acknowledge it in his assessment

[@sathrielsatanson666]

As @drawmeka says, the text does not say deal 5 damage 3 times. So no, it cannot hit a target multiple times unless there is Darkmarrow in play

[@peshomighty5051]

Ye old triple frost death knight Frostwyrm's fury a turn 7 cne. Frost is back. Is excavate still in standard. Excavate is good. For me I will not be playing Eliza goreblade. That blood rune is un usable and I won't go one blood 2 frost.

[@klok1014]

Yay! I love permanent rest of game effects!!! Very interactive to play against!

[@susamogus8331]

Me when 6 mana to 8 mana

[@MinuHex]

Suppose I'll remind, for the Shaman tourist... DK would have access to Shaman's Volcanic drink, which was a fire spell, and revealed in the first batch.

[@alexandrebertone4351]

strong package for warlock !

[@murlocmasher3368]

I feel like DK is better with this, because they have corpse payoffs

[@mattmanlooloo]

Eliza is so scary good. Not only does DK get Yodeler, but they also get Boneshredder and death growl to potentially get +13 attack to everything, forever. Hollow Hound healing for 37. Gnome Muncher turning into a 17/6 life steal taunt that attacks the lowest hp target at the end of turn. There's also the pretty obvious cheese of Leroy+Outfitter+Hero Power for the surprise 48 damage charge burst

[@shroudncover9515]

Death knight....pirate knight is gonna be great.

[@peshomighty5051]

Ye old triple frost death knight Frostwyrm's fury a turn 7 cne. Frost is back. Is excavate still in standard. Excavate is good. For me I will not be playing Eliza goreblade. That blood rune is un usable and I won't go one blood 2 frost. Although frostbitten freebooter and Quartzite crusher? Good combo. Alright 2 frost and one blood time.

[@chichipagan2674]

Death knight tourist + Warlock with Deathrattle synergies is insane

[@Brokenlordike]

Eliza to me made me instantly think of Death Growl. . . That just seems really insane. Makes crop rotation even more insane. And she can be randomly discovered. Works well with Toysnatcher, the Quillboar, Army of the dead, Hollow Hound, Probably the best just all around good card we've seen for the set.

[@ConcerninglyWiseAlligator]

I feel like Horizon's Edge shouldn't be analyzed as 15 damage for 4 mana, but 15 damage for 1 card. It won't be fast, but it has the potential to be backbreaking. One or two copies of that can be the requirement for achieving the critical mass of chip damage Eliza decks are looking for.

[@robingrob9717]

Ghouls night is also just very flexible. You can play it whenever and it does work. A little unreliable sometimes but you'll always get your stats either in dmg or on board and it being able to go face makes it pretty strong especially if they all got 2 attack

[@alcodark]

i really want to play hearthstone from time to time again now but it feels too slow now for me...I hope there is a turbo mode, faster animations, shorter turns etc

[@adamn7777]

What little we did see of shaman indicates they'd be dabbling in multiple spell schools with the cabaret headliner and malted magma so I'd expect Buttons to be drawing 3-5 cards typically.

[@WadeAllen001]

Horizon's Edge plus Summoner Darkmarrow in Warlock could be pretty great for a late game lethal, potentially. You set up the location the turn before, then play Darkmarrow and 4 more cheap deathrattle minions, pressing the location between each minion you play. The deathrattle minions all die when played, their deathrattles go off twice, and the location deals 3 damage each time. The trouble is that there aren't really very many good 1-2 cost deathrattle minions that Warlock has access to, and it's not very good if the opponent has minions on board.

[@sathrielsatanson666]

It's funny you say it can be "pretty grate" and then present all the evidence that it's not so great.

[@Satherian]

I'd really love a tech card that just either disables or removes any "Rest of the Game" effects

[@LeinRa-Reaction]

Shadowverse players: "Me too, buddy. Me too."

[@thesilvanalyst6880]

Horizon's Edge will be good. Imagine an aura had that effect. It would be quite scary. It plays very well with Death Knight's usual plan on just grinding you down and making your opponent feel hopeless, because in many cases, they could just see that you will be able to clear anything they play with the board alone. You are basically asking your opponent every turn, "What do you want to sacrifice to the meatgrinder?" and that can be a difficult decision. Many Death Knight doesn't need to win right now in most cases, they just have to outlast you and this card does that very well.

[@mlp_firewind8129]

I personally think it’s clear to me that buttons is meant to be drawing shaman cards. It would have been cool (get it) if DK had gotten a spell school they don’t usually get, we have gotten that in the past, but also I think design wise they want the tourists to be used in touring decks and not just as generally good cards in their own class. Maestra maybe being the exception.

[@DisturbedNeo]

"Mummy Magic" was a passive duels (RIP) treasure that gave any Deathrattle minion you played Reborn. It had to be nerfed to only affect the first Deathrattle minion you played each turn because it was too good. Brittlebone Buccaneer is gonna be nuts.

[@Cool_as_the_Northern_Wind]

THINK ABOUT IT Only 1 reason why eliza is not viable now: You only have 1 So you can't reliably draw her, so you can't build around her as a main wincon If they add ANY kind of proper tutor for her, shell be crazy good. DK has both TONS OF WAYS to both abuse deathrattle triggers and ways to summon multiple small fast minions at once. If you trigger her 2 extra times (which is not hard at all to do IF you draw her on time) every multisummon card you play is lethal or threatens it. Eveb hero power refreshing shenanigans become broken. IT is bound to happen someday

[@stinki0733]

I feel like the frostrune cards is there, to make the chance of discovering Reska lower, and setting up for the next expansion.

[@Gameknight4444]

We are slowly creeping towards the rainbow dk ultimate beatdown deck

[@taliongaming4340]

Cursed Souvenir + Freeze effects and damage from frost DK cards could actually be enough for a Freeze Warlock burst deck.

[@jasong.5887]

i think the location might be good in warlock with a sacrifice focus.

[@j8000]

Horizon being 4 mana for five arcane missiles over threeish turns seems like it would be really good in a universe where board matters. Ah, i see the problem.

[@jamespaul4862]

if DK could get that Sham 3 cost frozen elemental early then i think shredder works in some sort of unheard "frost" DK. lol

[@peshomighty5051]

Ye old triple frost death knight Frostwyrm's fury a turn 7 cne. Frost is back.

[@onegirltwojackets2835]

As someone that frequently plays the mediocre deck that is no minion mage, Ghouls Night singlehandedly tips the matchup in the DKs favor. Very strong against decks that are passive in the early game, and that's not even mentioning Eliza

[@filipvadas7602]

Eliza *borderline* feels like a custom fan card. It is deceptively powerfull and I can alredy see it being nerfed with a "once per game" clause or smth to prevent into from being abusable

[@zolad2345]

I feel like this is busted cause itll work on hero power right? So if you can dupe the deathrattle with some resurrects/copy effects and double deathrattle a few times you have a Leeroy hero power :O

[@sathrielsatanson666]

Yeah, you only have to copy, play and it has to die 5 times. Simple

[@nickjoseph77]

Goreblade is just really solid for the rest of the game and has upside if you could copy it's deathrattle to it's neighbors or trigger it multiple times. Buccaneer is just very good in DK for standard decks since there are so many good deathrattles. Dreadhound Handler is super fair in every DK deck. Just one of those memorable commons. Slippery slope is good for combo decks. Horizon's Edge is 15 damage over 9 turns right? It's super easy to have minions die in game though.

[@peshomighty5051]

Ye old triple frost death knight Frostwyrm's fury a turn 7 cne. Frost is back. Is excavate still in standard. Excavate is good. For me I will not be playing Eliza goreblade. That blood rune is un usable and I won't go one blood 2 frost. Although frostbitten freebooter and Quartzite crusher? Good combo. Alright 2 frost and one blood time.

[@TheKillaHaze]

I’m so tired of the rune limitations. They just need to get rid of it.

[@sathrielsatanson666]

TRUUUUE!

[@evanmcdonald9134]

Warlock has soulfreeze and while I doubt it’ll be great to run freeze dk cards in warlock, ironically soulfreeze seems like one of the best options to combine with the pqckage

[@anonym451]

Is'nt the 1 mana 4/4 absolutely op? On coin this + the freezing elemental = 6/5 on turn 1? + freeze effect. How are you answering this. Especially if it's run in a agrro deck?

[@losttoubadour2559]

Can already see Dan triggering eliza deathrattle 50 times to kill someone with a boar.

[@Satherian]

His insane combo decks are the only combo decks I like

[@sathrielsatanson666]

I think you meant to say MarkMckz, not Dan 😅

[@cschrsore]

Indeed, Does Eliza Goreblade also buff the heropower ghoul adding +1 attack to him (its a minion)?

[@Kameo-jq3qo]

Yes every minion that touches the board instantly gets the attackbuff

[@princequincy5421]

there's no way that horizon's edge doesn't see play; even if it's slow, 15 burn damage for 4 mana is a psychotic rate

[@redstonemonster5769]

dark marrow. brittle bone, freebooter is 25 demage face for 9 mana, or am i missing something?

[@-insaane-]

The legendary + yelling yoddlers turns the 4 mana spell into an OTK on an empty board

[@darkhound7]

we've seen plenty of 1 off really strong legendaries before. but because you only get 1 copy, if you pull it, you steamroll. if you don't, you're SOL

[@blizz2748]

Something to note with brittle bone. She cannot work with the non tourist warlock legendary. It is a battlecry and deathrattle but never played. And rebound minions lose the enchantment

[@awapowell]

Damn, you’re fast. Just saw the card six minutes ago. When’ed you record / edit this, 😅the two minutes I was dancing around with glee to see Eliza in standard!?

[@SanityDrop]

Eliza with ghoul's night holy shit.

[@andrewjao6861]

how does the DK rune system work for tourists into warlock

[@jeniferbaldridge4749]

The rune system activates while building the deck, so warlocks are also limited to the three ruins, like the death knights

[@WadeAllen001]

When a Warlock puts Summoner Darkmarrow into their deck they can put any other Perils in Paradise Death Knight cards in their deck (except Buttons), following the same rune restrictions that Death Knight does. So a Warlock cannot put Eliza Goreblade (1 Blood 1 Frost), Ghouls Night (1 Unholy), and Slippery Slope (2 Frost) into their deck, for example.

[@sathrielsatanson666]

Bad 😂

[@meanberryy]

Goreblade 5 star. Sheedder could je sick.

[@bagboybrown]

Looks good! :D

[@negueitchons5991]

Blood DK is (still) dead

[@sathrielsatanson666]

Yeah, those cards are good but they are not the carda I want to play. Oh well.

[@zalanmarkus4939]

I can't believe they killed Peggy Brittlebone again, she probably enjoyed being alive

[@Shaalertft]

Regis are u aware that horizon edge might be used 5 times in 1 turn? It sounds like u are not

[@Shaalertft]

Condition being u got 4 tokens on ur board (which is 1 spell for dk)

[@imverytired1164]

The frost rune seems really awkward on Eliza.

[@fitupan9474]

cool, thanks to eliza we're guaranteed to get a markmckz video

[@robingrob9717]

So we are just printing 2 mana 4/4s now huh ~crys in millhouse~

[@galkanftw]

SO they half assed the Excavate theme half ased the CLASS themes if many exist at all they sell these half assed mini sets just to create mid season cash flow like where is the EFFORT for the big dollars they are ask,ing people to spend on this game?

[@paweniemyjski1002]

Eliza od good with hero power event , every turn 3/4 atack ghul

[@electricVGC]

buttons like really sucks huh why nothing on ghouls night

[@jamesbondisamonkey]

game needs more go face long lasting effects...Well done Devs!!

[@wamhu]

handbuff DK package support hmmmm

[@ryanbruckner9882]

You can Yelling Yodler Eliza

[@barcster2003]

Eliza says rest of game its broken.

[@EnderGoku9001]

oh no buffed ghouls

[@edwardgreene2884]

wooo

[@galkanftw]

WTF is with the Pirates?They have given two clases a lot of support for Pirates but what about Totems they gave Shaman the worst Hero power in the game and all Tooem support has long been forgotten. You look, at warrior's armor HP and they gave a massive of ton of support for that or even Priest got some healing support for it's HP.Mage has a whole theme centered around no minions but of course it's best HP support has long been gone. The HS team needs to get organized create themes for EACH class I mean why did you make all these classes...just to sell portraits?it has been a VERY lazy ride with this team and why the game becoems stale only 2-3 weeks after each set ebcause there are very few options for each class. I mean look, t all this Pirate garbage you want Shaman/mage/DK/Hunter< to play Pirates? Oh and speaking of lazy where is the completed Excavate for ALL classes?

[@Waldo_I_Am]

Excavate doesn't need to go to all classes. Excavate went to half while the other half got the Reno/highlander cards. The only class that got both was Warrior for some reason.

[@omgfro]

That card sucks. All I gotta do is silence it😅

[@sathrielsatanson666]

First, you have to run silence and second you have to get it before Eliza dies 😂

[@omgfro]

@@sathrielsatanson666 easy. I pull sience 1st.turn🤯

[@elmase2163]

These for the rest of the game effects are trash no counterplay whatsoever

[@Polemion]

stll reviewing a dead game. sorry but after removing classic and wild and changing so much cards because of balancing the game lost its spark its only a cash cow for blizzard

[@jeriya909]

since I've come to the realization that tourist is only for cards in this set I've lost all hype this expansion

[@blizz2748]

It also applies to the miniset

[@evanmcdonald9134]

It’s a good thing for it to only apply to this set tho. Would be absolute pandemonium which would break the format if it was broader

[@sathrielsatanson666]

I was never hyped for this expansion but yeah, Tourist mechanic is totally lacklustre because of that.

[@kripperinoobviousino6019]

It would be absolutely busted if you could access ALL standard cards with a dual class, it'd be absurdly strong. Maybe even as strong as some wild decks.

[@jeriya909]

Yes it would be broken but I think the main thing is: it would be fun