Confessions of a Trans-Care Propagandist | Sara Stockton | EP 342

Ep. 342
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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Sara Stockton explore her past as a clinician in the field of Transgender care, how she helped co-author the processes by which gender-dysphoric children are assessed for medical intervention, and why she wholeheartedly regrets it now.
Sara Stockton is a licensed marriage and family therapist, lecturer, researcher, presenter, and clinical supervisor of a psychotherapy group practice in Central New York. In 2012, she co-authored and published one of the first mental health assessments utilized to assess youth's readiness to begin medical treatment for gender transition. She spent the first part of her career as a clinician treating and advocating on behalf of youth and families surrounding issues with gender. Furthermore, she spent time traveling to teach medical facilities, physicians, and schools how to provide what we now refer to as “gender-confirming” care. Treating well over one hundred families, she also wrote many of the first letters that were used to approve gender transition surgeries on minors. However, due to many concerns with the treatment outcomes and how this ideology was being presented to children, she shifted her focus away from working primarily with this population. More recently, Sara Stockton was interviewed for a documentary to discuss some of the implications of what is happening developmentally to our children. Since appearing in that documentary, Sara Stockton receives constant emails and calls from medical professionals across the globe sharing their fears about speaking out and the lack of conversation around this serious topic.
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(0:00) Coming up
(1:50) Intro
(3:24) Sara’s background
(6:09) Transgender teams
(9:48) Two factors in gender-dysphoria
(11:28) Lack of teaching
(12:50) Body integrity disorder
(14:50) Simplistic assumptions
(15:52) Ken Zucker, clear outcomes
(17:30) First assessments, future expectations
(21:40) The snake pit, multi-dimensional analysis
(23:32) Three sessions are all it takes
(26:30) Chloe Cole: fantasy and lies
(31:05) Four steps, no treatment
(32:40) Meeting her first De-Transitioner
(33:45) Tehran, bizarre ethics
(34:50) A shallow surgical fix
(37:28) Trans-Age, deadnaming
(40:34) Why Sara speaks out
(45:32) Disorienting our children
(47:45) Misgendering considered bullying?
(51:00) Standards of care, five senses
(57:03) Subjective identity by the day
(59:29) When your child dresses up to play
(1:03:55) “Valid long-term studies”
(1:07:00) Hysteria and cultural redefinition
(1:09:44) Psychogenic epidemics
(1:13:13) Counterclaims on variability
(1:15:13) Intense body modification
(1:19:40) The kind of people attracted to this industry
(1:22:30) Munchausen by proxy
(1:26:27) Oedipal narcissism
(1:27:33) Desantis, Disney, the “LGBT agenda”
(1:30:53) A mostly white problem
(1:31:47) Radical freedom of choice
(1:33:34) Furries and human sacrifice
(1:36:30) Words of caution to therapists
(1:39:05) Why we need to stand up now
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[@LilacLees]

I hesitated to write this…I’m a high school teacher and last week one of my students returned to school after having a double mastectomy. It was so disturbing. I actually had nightmares about it after seeing the student at school. The student was still recovering, pale as a sheet hunched over and it was just so depressing. It’s like living in a nightmare. All my colleagues who knew about the surgery we’re going on about how wonderful it was. This kid is a junior this kid is 16 what the hell is going on? I feel like I’m the only one in the world who is noticing how crazy this all is, and if I said anything at work, I would be fired immediately and probably end up on the news what happened??!!!

[@blk5124]

So sorry. What a hard thing. 😢

[@jill552]

That was so sad to read. What is happening in the country?

[@carolereichert8844]

A world without God - only one word - lost😢

[@susancary510]

Exactly how I felt when my son’s best friend showed up post hysterectomy at my house. Just gutted.

[@texastea5686]

@@susancary510 ☹️

[@rumblerightdad]

I am a therapist in the Midwest. I've had to consider leaving practice altogether because of this issue. Therapists Against Transition must be a united and REAL movement

[@StandYourGroundHomestead]

If you leave, then there is one less level-headed therapist available to the world. If you truly feel the need to quit, then do so. But just know that your mentality is deeply needed in today's society.

[@lindz758]

I'm a therapist in Canada and it feels like a very lonely place sometimes to be against this agenda, but people need practitioners who can see the truth

[@baroquefiddle4790]

I am too and I left because of it. It all felt so wrong and I knew better. It broke my heart because I spent years to train and I deeply loved my work. I am also a mother to 2 teenage sons and it deeply disturbed me when I learned that their school was teaching this ideology to them which cause a lot of confusion in 1 of my son's. I live in Ireland and its hit our small country like a freight train.

[@tonyc223]

The mental illness of woke has infected the medical fields. The cult has infected almost all sciences. Of all social ills this one will take down the western world in a flash of historic time. Push back with extreme prejudice.

[@anotherlover6954]

Do it. Start talking to people. Suicide mission. But do it.

[@wellnessempirerevolution]

When my son was in high school, he desperately wanted to get a tattoo. His best friend was getting a sleeve done, and of course he wanted to follow suit. Even though I was the cool mom, I was absolutely against it knowing he would most likely regret it. About a year after high school my son thanked me for not letting him get one, saying that what he wanted then he now thought was stupid. This is a tattoo we're talking about, a regret that can be covered up with a different design or lasered off completely, no harm no foul. It blows my mind and breaks my heart that children are allowed to make these life altering decisions that they can never take back😢 WTF happened to common sense and human decency??? It is inhumane to mutilate a young persons body, I 100% agree with you Jordan that these people should be criminally punished.

[@karadiberlino]

Honestly I start to think this must be about organ harvesting. They remove all their sex glands and they are loaded with stem cells. I doubt the throw those valueble reproductive tissues in the clinic trash. They sell it to science and who knows what kind of evil. I bet this is related to Epstein. He knew a lot of sick ppl and did business with them, connected ppl. They offed him because it was clear he would giving out names to avoid going to jail for the rest of his life. Big pharma in the US and technology in China work together in some sick and evil ways. The transgender trend came through TikTok and happened during the pandemic. Lots of distraction and now this bullshit. Follow the money! It‘s all going to big pharma, the whole children mutilation experiment. Also: They‘re sterilizing the kids for good! Hysteria and epidemics are related and this must stop. They have gone too far. As we know by now: They feel so entitled that they do it in broad day light in front if our eyes. HUMANITY REALLY NEEDS TO WAKE THE F UP!!! This is the last call, if we allow this to happen, then we are lost and extinct in no time.

[@tajdvl-advocate6113]

Came to look at the single response to your insightful comment. Interestingly, it is missing. Makes me wonder what could have been said that was so bad that it needed to be removed, I can only presume by someone in the KZbin censorship industrial complex.

[@moinjorno]

imagine comparing your identity with a tattoo

[@rochellemdunn]

Parents need to be parents teaching and guiding their children. You are not supposed to be their friend, that comes later. Children are naturally malleable and curious.

[@eldagdiaz6049]

My daughter was 15 when she told me that wanted to do tatto, my answer was uhmm go ahead put a tatto but i will make sure i will leave your ass imprinted with the belt. Just try!!!!

[@LydiaannFisher]

I'm a 15-year-old girl who loves watching Jordan Peterson. I originally found him because all my friends were accepting this crazy movement, but I never did. I started watching the daily wire and Jordan Peterson (about two years ago) and have ever since been speaking up to those who believe this evil lie. Great video and I hope whoever watches this, please speak up about this to those who believe a lie Satan has spread around our world. If I can do it, so can you. I want to experience the best things in life like: marrying a Christian guy, building a family, teaching my children, and growing old in a world that changes for the better.

[@jamesrae7597]

wonderful statement

[@robertchapman6795]

You ARE the change. Do and be what your last sentence spoke of. Do not fear in this world. God is in all of us. We just have to let him guide us. It’s hard, this world will pass, but eternity is forever! There’s no fear in these words, just the love of Christ. God Bless.

[@trueroyalty3342]

The Lords judgment hour is now, soon he will return. Prepare yourself to meet your God. I too do not think it wise to marry or have children at this time, Satan knows his time is short.

[@ERH-ph5gb]

Now, what would be the alternative? Staying single, no commitments, no true bonding to a man who is going to love you? I do not sign this "no kids in such a cruel world". I would say that is exactly the reason for marrying and having kids. Act against the trend. You will find that will erase most of the questions about the meaning of life. Choose your man well though. If you will give yourself to an earnest and honest bonding, chances are good, that the other one will do so as well. Nothing comes without your own engagement and love. When I was young I also thought not giving birth to a child. Thankfully, I decided otherwise. So far, my son had not a bad life, though the last years turned out to be rough. But that is life, nothing stays smooth all the time. Sincere greetings to you.

[@LydiaannFisher]

@@ERH-ph5gb my apologies you must've misunderstood, I want to be a mom that's what I'm most excited for. I just hate this kind of world and I want to make a change for my future kids and I hope we can all do that.

[@Milestonemonger]

I loved being a tomboy during my teenage years. Bugs, dogs, jeans, and a baseball cap were my life. Thank God my parents didn't try to change my gender because at around 18, I loved everything feminine. I've been married for 40 years and have two wonderful children. I hope today's parents understand that children go through many weird phases before finally growing up.

[@chryscroc]

I was like this too!!!! My parents gave me the freedom to be who I was without them forcing gender into it. Just respecting who I was as a person and allowing me to grow. Now I love my femininity, while still a tomboy 😂

[@mykelc205]

Amen.

[@kariv916]

THIS Let kids just be kids.

[@edwinbeta2806]

Sometimes they grow up and it sticks. Of the trans people I know, the problem with their parents was that they ALWAYS thought it was a phase. They never quite respected the unchanging things about the child, anything they didnt like or understand, they reduced to a phase. Always be careful with this one.

[@shanadriver7744]

​@@edwinbeta2806 it may not have been a phase, but it is just their personality. It doesn't mean they were born in the wrong body and should change their body parts. My uncle is into music and is the one who cooks the meals and cleans the house. My aunt plays sports and does not cook anything and she cuts the grass and works on the vehicles, etc. It's a little odd because it's like the societal roles are reversed but nothing unnatural about it. They are a biological man and woman who do things differently and that's okay. People who commit suicide because they feel they are not in the right body need real help. Not a change in their physical being.

[@anamneses28]

Congratulations on getting free. I'm in my early 40s. I've always been conservative. That didn't used to be shocking among black people but all of a sudden I'm a unicorn. And watching from the vantage point of growing up an 80s kid is shocking. I delayed finishing college until I was 30 so I feel like I dodged the indoctrination and I had formed and solidified many of my values by then. I'm so grateful for that. Today, I'm a married, stay at home, homeschooling mom of 4 with 1 one on the way. It's not very common for me to see other people like me living this kind of life and that's heartbreaking because it's such a beautiful life. Shaming "trad wives" is shaming mothers who dedicate themselves to being a loving caregiver of their children and home fulltime. I certainly didn't have that and wish I did. 5 years ago I gave up my career and traded that pursuit for my children and husband 1st. Best decision I ever made. There's So much more I could say but thank you for sharing your story. I can think of few things worse than blindly following someone else's will.... and worse contributing to the destruction of others by doing so. If you haven't checked out Jordan Peterson's channel I HIGHLY recommend it. His conversation with Magatte Wade is absolutely phenomenal. His conversation on Unplanned Childlessness is absolutely phenomenal. His conversation with Chloe Cole where he broke down crying, absolutely powerful! I have tried but I just don't see conversations like that on the left based in truth rather than emotion. I see Cenk Uyger screaming, spitting and cursing. I see Rashad Richie manipulating and misrepresenting facts. I see nihilism, hopelessness and confusion. It's not winsome. It's not liberating. It's not life-giving. And I must reject it. 🤷🏽‍♀️ Keep engaging. That's the beauty of the journey. 💗😊

[@Janellabelle]

You're not a "trad wife." You're an engineer of the future of the human race. Human life springs forth from your body, on pain of possible death, and you spend the next 20 years (if not the rest of your life-lets be honest) spending everyday weighing the pros and cons of your decisions, current and past, in an attempt to make absolutely sure the life you're creating can go forth into a future you may never see, and be the maximum benefit you can create for that future of the human race. What the hell did the person calling you a "trad wife" do that was more important than that? Dye their hair two different shades of green and take their clothes off on only fans for anyone with $4.99 in change they found in their couch cushions? 😄 This generation is warped badly. I know my generation was warped, but this is a level of crazy I can't see in ANY of the past generations from the millennials to the greatest generation. For example, I once was listening to a story of the capture of a ww2 german soldier. From his perspective. He said they had a shootout until he ran out of bullets, and he was hiding behind a tree and was listening to the American soldiers tell him to come out with his hands up and do it now dont make us come get you etc etc and he was 18 years old and he said even though he was pretty sure he didnt have any bullets left he took his gun and put it in his mouth and pulled the trigger just in case there was a single bullet left. But he had none left. And the interviewer asked him why would you rather die than be a POW of American soldiers, and he said it was because they were told over and over that if they were captured by American soldiers they would be sent to a POW camp where they would then cut off all their dixks. I thought, wow, he would've rather died than that happen, but children today are begging to have that done to them, and their parents are just like, "word."

[@erickrajniak8424]

My cousin was a highschool science teacher for 23 years. She has common sense and stood up for the students whos beliefs were being silenced. Unfortunately her being a conservative and openly talking in class with students about the realities of there only being 2 genders and not being able to change your gender even with surgeries wasn't tolerated ny the school board and she was fired along with losing her retirement or pension or whatever it's called. Schools are getting rid of teachers who don't go along with the indoctrination of the students into this woke ideology. Everybody needs to know what is really going on.

[@rinadeeeee]

Seeing this as an asean girl feels like watching disporia movie actually. Wow.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Has she consulted an attorney?

[@susieq8008]

She should sue that district for her retirement

[@evanpetelle5669]

Absolutely evil. Good for your friend for saying something & not simply walking over the cliff with the rest of the buffalo.

[@Butterflieslove2]

That is “democracy” you can tell ONLY what they want you to tell otherswise you will be cancelled, fired etc etc just there you wont be allowed to tell any arguments that is opposite thier intersets! EVIL EVIL EVIL

[@sfam5920]

I remember as a child I wanted to be a boy because of 3 things: 1. I couldn't be 1st place anymore in races because the boys started to out run me. Me being a very competitive kid, this absolutely crushed me. The thoughts of wanting to be a boy started from this. 2. My grandmother preferred boys over girls because boys carry on the last names. My brother was more loved than I was, not saying I wasn't loved. But this sort of traumatized me as my family and I lived in a different country so when we visited our grandma after years of being away she'd visibly be more loving and welcoming to my brother. 3. I hated the way my childhood pants stopped fitting me. Well it was because my hips had started to widen and thighs started to round out. I remember verbally crying out, why is my pants so hard to pull up?? I could feel how slow and "chunky" and less efficient I was becoming in my movements. My aunt asked if I was mad because I wanted to wear a dress and a skirt. No I did not want a dress or a skirt. I wanted to stop the weird changes that were happening to my body, so that I could be back to feeling less "tired" and slow. Now I wish I had wider hips lol. I don't want to be 1st place in races anymore. And I know I'm accepted and loved by my family besides what my grandmother thinks. I've matured. Kids get influenced so easily and they change every day. We need to stop unnecessarily seeding their minds.

[@marteumar8429]

If I ever have children I hope they’ll be sons because I want my last name to be passed too. Not that a woman can’t pass her last name, my mother passed me hers and I’d definitely pass my if I have children but most women are weak, doormats, sheep-like, if I had daughters especially if they were straight/bi, my name would probably die with them. But this is on the weak mindedness of women not on their anatomy so I don’t see how be male would change anything.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

I was a tomboy, I used to wish I'd been born a boy, and in retrospect I know it was partly because it was safer to be a boy in my neighborhood, boys didn’t get preyed on anywhere near as much as girls did; and I absolutely HATED puberty! I thought "girl" interests were uninteresting compared to "boy" interests. . . I liked action and adventure stories, not "gross boring chick flicks". I noticed how even potentially interesting story baselines -- like werewolves, for instance -- could be ruined with "chick crap" (like in the Twilight series). Now I'm grateful I wasn't in a place where there was any possibility of puberty blockers or hormones or surgery, I know I would've been "diagnosed" as a trans boy. I still like lots of "guy" stuff, and I've always worn work boots and Carhartts and a hardhat for work; but I can enjoy dressing pretty too, like in my pfp taken during a family reunion. And I have an intact body which hasn't been sterilized. That's something that all children should be able to have, because kids just can't imagine how they'll feel when they're 21, or 25, or 30.

[@harkyo]

How old are you? Just curious how you grew up and what environment was conducive or contributed to your experience. 😊

[@consciouscrypto3090]

Everyone just wants to be loved, by others and in their own esteem.

[@Tina06019]

I would STILL love to be as strong and as fast as men are. It still makes me very angry that Mother Nature screwed us over this way. Of course, if I weren’t a woman, our sons would not exist.

[@danieldanvers9163]

You're a brilliant man, Mr Peterson. I was massively depressed and in my own hell since my wife Jenny passed away. I felt paralysed by depression and grief since September 16th 2016. I truly felt like wasting away when I stumbled onto one of your videos on KZbin. Everything you said about how and why it is so hard to get out of the depressed self imposed hell. You made me realise I am not alone and you laid out a way for me to break free of that God awful situation. Thanks to your advice I now have a very good job and I love to cook so I'm also studying 1 day a week in college to become a Chef. For the first time in a very long time I have options. I am so happy and it's all Thanks to you Mr Peterson THANK YOU SO MUCH 🙏. you saved my life, God bless you sir.

[@nickscarla-tl9xp]

Are you related to captain marvel?!

[@25karebear]

Can I ask which video of his this was?

[@carolinetakam2677]

Beautiful 🤩 much ahead of you. God bless

[@taras.4823]

❤

[@theharshtruthoutthere]

@@taras.4823 There shoul`ve never be no doctor who has been educated to cut off body parts from healthy bodies, nor a doctor who is been titled “gender doctor”. (sounds like doctors gone mad and sharing their madness to their paisents) Gender is not an illness, which is need to be fixed. GOD created everyone perfectly. Males with all which they need and Females with all which they need. Teenage era, puberty? What is it? - transformation from child to an ADULT. Gender dysphoria ? What is it? - a lie, a try to go against THE WORD OF GOD, stating that hating ones body is normal. Lets remind what GOD says: Ephesians 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: Trans surgery scars - scars which never should've been on a human bodies, be they young or old. Gender - affirming Care - care which never should took place. We are not creators, we are creation, meaning we cannot create, we can only use which is already been made. Like lucifer, fallen angel, couldn`t create a mankind which he so badly wanted, for he too is a creation not a creator therefore can only use what`s been made. Did he got his wish, to have his own mankind? - yes, the giants and hybrid creatures + now the deceived human souls, who like they believed the trans lie and transformed themselves into their illusions, the same with the another lie from lucifer, through which he “promise” to give the “everlasting life” = humans mixing with machines, becoming robots = worst fate found, cause true, they stopped ageing and dying, but the wish and desire to die shall be there. Everlasting life in which souls wish to die and desire to die everlastingly - where`s the life then? As it sound and seem to be a forced on existence.

[@pauliewalsh6875]

History will be kind to Jordan Peterson. His fatherly encouragement and wisdom is inspirational to a generation who will speak of it truthfully.

[@BabudroSun]

History is written by the victors. We can only pray who those will be.

[@Barrikade6971]

He just needs to get the fuck off Twitter and keep doing this kind of work.

[@kutie216]

@@BabudroSun Exactly

[@jessiek.l.5321]

Look at what happened to cesar. Can't say life and history were kind to him, unfortunately.

[@KatJ3st]

agreed

[@soniakeith5105]

My husband wanted a vasectomy after 15 years of marriage and 4 boys. He had to go to 3 different doctors before someone would do it for him because it came out in the consultation that we had wanted a girl and gave up trying. They would say, "What if you change your mind and want to try again for a girl someday?" Sounds like it would have been easier to get a doctor to approve a medical transition than a vasectomy after 4 kids...

[@cumuluseremiel1209]

Because his vasectomy won't be beneficial for big pharma, a transition is expensive, harmful so later you will need life long care and hormonal treatments and a series of surgeries; that's why they're pushing forward the affirming therapists, which they pretend is a process but is in fact just an already done thing that can be closed through the phone and you start your hormone blockers (aka chemical castration with leupro) & hormonal treatments, some even go directly for a double mastectomy

[@ckl5801]

Same is true for 20 something females who have zero children and zero desire to reproduce….it’s not a big revenue generating procedure…hmmm follow the money 😢

[@96jazmon]

Good point…

[@Sixx323]

Sorry you had to go through that. I have a similar problem. I am 43 and have been through 10 different obgyns to get a hysterectomy bc I've had ovarian cancer and still have PCOS and endometriosis with 5 miscarriages and I've had to literally fight for the right to finally have a hysterectomy bc of the doctors male & female telling me I was going to change my mind about kids and even though I've been with my fiancé for 18 years 1 of the doctors literally said what If yall get divorced? Your future husband might want kids. WHAT!?! it should be my choice and I shouldn't have had to wait 15 years of pain and suffering for an imaginary child..and unfortunately due to things like this with the culture we live in today I don't want to bring a child into this insanity.

[@Sixx323]

​@C K L 😢😢 No doctor is going to give a 20 yr old with no health issues just doesn't want children at all a hysterectomy. I have major health issues like ovarian cancer and am in my 40s and had to wait 15 yrs to finally get an obgyn to agree to one.

[@chelseyl928]

My daughter starts high school this coming September. I am terrified. She is turning 13. I have done my dudiligence to educate her on the harms of gender ideology and inform her of the possibility of feeling uncomfortable in her changing body due to puberty; being TOTALLY NORMAL and temporary and that I am here for her and have been through all of it myself. Still with her raging hormones, peer pressure and her looking to fit in I am absolutely sick with worry she will get swept up in this.

[@wlknonsonshine]

Homeschool

[@Crygear]

@@wlknonsonshine yessir

[@RosettiSpaghettti]

@@wlknonsonshine yes!

[@78LedHead]

HOME SCHOOL! Even if they don't learn a thing and you struggle, it's better than the butchery we're seeing now.

[@wlknonsonshine]

@@78LedHead also, it's way easier than you think.

[@judithhowell5738]

When Jordan says "Hysteria was treated with removing the womb.. which is analogous to what is happening now" I nearly fell over.

[@src5769]

That seems to be part of the plan to create hysteria, along with kids committing suicide to depopulate our planet.

[@janettulloch261]

Yes

[@hitzoneproductions7858]

Dr. Peterson

[@verabolton]

That was mind blowing 😱

[@theman946]

This seems akin to historical vengeance perpetuated on behalf of those maligned in generations past.

[@evanstone9]

Major props to Sara Stockton. She realized her errors, and is now out to compassionately make things right.

[@valley5617]

Like abortion workers who wake up to the horror.

[@heperile]

And also in her defense, it sounds like the professors at her graduate program were ignorant of the depth of the existing scholarship. This is what happens when academia is taken over by activists.

[@sonquatsch8585]

@@heperile not only were they ignorant, they were not able to extrapolate the existing scholarship to apply it in ethical ways concerning the rise of trans orientation versus autogynophilia for example. sadness.

[@adamsavage2646]

@@heperile that's what happens when money hungry people want to cash in on a gender crisis. they get associates degree to make bank off of kids who think they're transgender. if they had better therapists, ONLY kids with gender dysphoria would be allowed puberty blockers. its not a problem with transgenderism you should blame these cheap therapists

[@wormwoodcocktail]

This. Everyone wants to save their skin and she is owning up to where the mistakes are. We should all have her courage.

[@pinkmystery__4091]

As a current Psych student I am glad we are talking and learning about hysteria, and psychological epidemics in my classes

[@Crygear]

Yeah! Even though this isn't the field of psych im pursuing, im sure that child development psych will soon butt heads a lot with gender psych going on forward.

[@tom5083]

"Better believe in psychological epidemics miss turner, you're in one."

[@phoenixjones7191]

@@Crygear The modern theories of identity already butt heads with this. The science is being ignored in favor of ideology.

[@suzyq6767]

My son fell into psychotic schizophrenia at the same time he "discovered" that he was a girl. At almost thirty, he showed no signs of body dysmorphia all throughout his childhood. All his friends were boys. He was a leader among them. At the time of this "discovery," he was terrifyingly ill (his greatest fear was killing me), but hormone therapy and gender transformation went forward. Although he was and is obviously mentally ill, his male parts were amputated, and so on and so forth. Although he wasn't and isn't mentally, and we believe legally, competent, "doctors" mutilated him with the old nip and tuck. Since he is an adult, we had no recourse. I won't call him by another pronoun or new name. If I can't call him "you," I simply don't speak to him. I don't want to end up in jail for refusing to participate in his delusions. All of my children exhibited their appropriate feminine or male traits by XX or XY although all their toys (baby dolls, cars, barbies, legos, dishes, kitchen, doll house, balls, blocks, etc) were in common with no shame or identification attached to anything. They naturally gravitated by three or four to feminine or male play by their XX and XY truth. I think the only way to protect our children from this social engineering is by homeschooling performed by a parent or tutor. Right! My son said before the surgery, I want to be a woman but want to date women. I'm not gay. When I brought up the reality of biological female reproductive issues like menstruation, pregnancy, and PMS, he admitted that he would never have those but could still be a woman. I related that these are the very things that define female sexuality. The parts are only a small part of the picture. Thank you to you both. My son will always be mentally ill and mutilated, but maybe, this will help the next ill young man's parents help him before it's too late.

[@abdulqaadir6510]

It seems like you’re going through a very hard test. God bless you stay strong!

[@billyje4726]

So bad! I dont know, how this is legal!

[@partdeux992]

list what medications and drugs he was on. That'll give us a clue.

[@Krimson]

I have noticed a lot of men that transition often have lesbian fetishes or fantasies. And many of them like lia thomas have a history of being porn addicted, lolicon addicted or hypersexualize or fixate on female features. It's honestly extremely creepy and ungrounded. It's as if they view women as sexual parts or sexual creatures. It definitely is mental illness. And as his mother you have every right to tell him the truth that which you have.

[@christieconques1221]

How did your son afford that expensive medical treatment and surgeries? I'm not judging but there's alot of diabetics who can't even afford their insulin or treatment

[@DR-mq1vn]

My boys were born in 97 and 99. They always wanted the "girl toy" when we went to McDonalds and got them a Happy Meal. I always let them get the girl toy and never made a big deal about it. I knew why they got the girl toy without even asking them. The girl toy was cuter and more colorful (like Hello Kitty, etc.). The boy toys were dark and scary looking sometimes. My boys are now in their 20s and normal, straight men.

[@johngallagher3732]

So you think

[@historyrediscovered]

@@johngallagher3732 yes shut up

[@queenofpunt]

Your sons are older Gen Z, zillenials tend to be more conservative

[@user-hn5ti3ws7g]

Lol also, who really knows WHY kids do things sometimes. I had a friend who wanted the wonder woman doll (I'm 53 so this was in the 70s) we teased him of course but he explained he just found Wonder woman so beautiful, he didn't really play with it, he mostly kept her on his shelf while I tossed my figure around, (Superman) tied a string to his neck, dragged him from my bike, you know, typical boy stuff. Anyway, my friend was definitely weird but not the way one might immediately assume-he just developed a love for female form early. In no way am I trying to be insulting-just agreeing with you that sometimes there's a perfectly sane reason we may not understand right away. 😉

[@DR-mq1vn]

@@user-hn5ti3ws7g Oh, I understand perfectly what you are saying. All kids do odd things at times. No big deal.

[@just_a_turtle_chad]

We need more people like this who aren't afraid to change for the better and protect children.

[@sivazona44]

the ball started rolling🙏🏽

[@captain_context9991]

Protect children from what? Imaginary enemies? Like those kitty litters in schools that never existed? Like those ANTIFA people that wer edefinitely going around burning down cities? Whats wrong with you people. You will never meet a trans person in your entire life. Yet you need to be FOR or AGAINST something you dont understans.

[@allcapsboy9139]

You didnt even watch it you posted this 2 min after the video uploaded. anything it takes to be TOP comment. loser

[@sivazona44]

@@kainickname hahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha i love you

[@LuckInklusiv]

x)

[@katerynarepina3138]

When I was a kid, 20 years ago, I really desired to be a boy. I simply thought that boys’ life is more fascinating, as I loved climbing up the trees, playing with cars and fighting. I was wearing boys clothes and even called myself boyish name. My parents didn’t mind much as they saw it as something that will pass at some point, but still were treating me as a girl at home and at school. At 12-13 I hit the puberty and started looking more feminine and I discovered that I am a good looking girl and absolutely loved it. Now I am looking at my past and the thought that I could be born in the western country these days scares me! I would definitely be told that I am a boy into a girls body (and I would believe it for sure!!!) and transformed into a boy. That would be the biggest mistake in my life.

[@thepodium3441]

Thank you both for having this desperately needed conversation! My wife is currently in a Masters program for Marriage and Family Therapy and I can confirm 1000% what was said in this interview. The students, soon to be young “professional” therapists are NOT receiving a full, well rounded science based education. It’s especially scary considering these people will be able to diagnose and recommend treatment plans to/for clients. It is a scary world we’ve stumbled into. My wife has had a hard time dealing with what seems to be activist fellow students and professors advocating for this garbage. She has felt alone and struggled with if she made the right decision. Our hope and hers is that she may one day be a “great” therapist, one who can actually help people and won’t lead them astray. Pray for the world, and for the hearts and minds of people. We need it.

[@petergriffin8969]

The scarier thing is that the progressives cannot be reasoned with, and so people on the right may have to meet them on the field of battle to settle our differences

[@josieposie22]

oh bless her heart for staying in the field! She will be needed so much. Perhaps she could get in touch with Sara ( interviewed in video) as a mentor or for moral support.

[@reenageene30]

Thats how it was in my grad profram for paych. Then i got injured and disability was not accomodated.

[@JenniferAguiartampa]

No sane person could look and listen to Sarah to see her pain and guilt and think she is transphobic or filled with hate. Thank you Sarah! When you know better, you do better. 💞

[@jamesshay9392]

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[@Adventure_fuel]

trans people endanger cisgender children

[@backintimealwyn5736]

noone si transphobic, not anymore than skizophobic, or depressphobic. This issue is following us everywhere , there is no room for simple indiference ,for live and let live. They are forcing us to adress it. As parents we have no choice, I don't want my kids to end up having to carry a sh*t bag and be on medication all their life because some "well meaning" teacher decided to teach marxist antibiology in preschool.

[@jf9763]

The word Transphobic is a made-up word to label anyone that pushes back or has any concerns surrounding the trans and gender ideology. Personally, I don't give a f**k what adults want to do with their sexuality. To each, his own live your life the way you want to. But leave the kids alone stop trying to indoctrinate and confuse children.

[@Lilac21248]

I like it “when you know better you do better.” ❤

[@tiffanym1108]

I have always been a tomboy. Still am. I'm not a girly girl. But a few years ago I had a breast cancer scare. I had no idea how emotionally attached to my breasts until I had the threat of losing them. I feel sorry for these kids!

[@joanna6588]

What is a Tom boy really? I am going to research the origins. It's totally fine not to be "girly girl". Neither of these terms should exist.

[@tiffanym1108]

@@joanna6588 sure they should. It's 2 different personalities in the same gender. Ignoring these 2 personalities exists is the reason we are castrating our children

[@transcendbeing]

​@@joanna6588 i guess tomboy is a girl who's also interested in things that are not common for girls but usually for boys. I have a niece that used to wear like boys and had an attitude like a boy back in the 90's and 2000's but she ended up as a beautiful lady, married and has children. This whole transgenda is indoctrination and sexualization of children to make it easier to progress in the future.

[@saber9583]

Means a girl who dresses like a boy, most tom girls are horrendous 😅

[@joanna6588]

@@transcendbeing This is the most common answer to the origins of Tomboy also promiscuity behaviors so the label is unjust in its use to girls who choose to dress casually. Q: What is the etymology and history of the word tomboy? A: According to the Barnhart Concise Dictionary of Etymology, the noun “tomboy” (formed by joining the male name Tom and the word “boy”) was coined sometime before 1553, and meant a boy who was rude or boisterous. The Oxford Dictionary of Etymology says it was related to the terms “tom-fool” (a buffoon) and later “tomfoolery.” And according to the Ayto Dictionary of Word Origins, since “Thomas” was the archetypal male name, the word “tom” was often used in the 16th century to indicate maleness (hence “tomcat”) and male aggression. In 1579 the word “tomboy” was applied to a bold or immodest woman. By 1592 it was applied to a girl who acted like a spirited or boisterous boy, and that’s been its meaning ever since.

[@barbloft]

Mad respect to you, Sara. Thank you for your candor and your bravery! I am a nurse and a therapist and I am beyond troubled by what is going on In both of my professional worlds!

[@Lola-mn9oz]

I would be a trans boy right now if my parents had taken me to the sex change store when I was a kid like they can today...I am definitely thankful that did not happen!

[@Formerspaceglider]

Hi Jordan, there is a high interest of your content by Spanish speakers. It would be great if you could add Spanish captions to your videos so I can show them to my parents and to my Spanish speaking colleagues. I believe this would amplify your influence greatly and also spread across Spanish speaking countries like Spain who are falling prey to this kid mutilation trend.

[@marianavalbuena5824]

I agree! I would love my mom and family members to hear these kind of stories but the language barriers and lack of content of this nature in Spanish really limits the way the message could be spread across nations. Especially since the Hispanic community in the U.S. grows every day and are voting for policies they don’t fully understand and the very limited news outlets that broadcast in Spanish are on the liberal/leftist side and doesn’t provide any juxtaposition of their claims… I think it’s important to hear both sides and some Spanish-Speaking voters are not even remotely exposed to this information and then go on to vote for policies without knowing the implications!!!

[@ninakoch1799]

yes!!! German subtitles as well please!!

[@gabs8341]

I was gonna say the same! I'd love to show his vids to people I know

[@karadiberlino]

@@Lion-ui4vuIt works really well, thank you!

[@ElGuerreroMaya]

Ojalá ocurra, más gente ocupa ver esto! La ideología de género y el feminismo, así como el neomarxismo y postmodernismo son Ideologías (y me da risa la ironía) imperialistas! Ya en Costa Rica hay dementes qué nos las quieren imponer

[@xyenyas]

As a girl who's dad abandoned her.. Thanks JP for all the fatherly advice you give. You have helped me grow as a person, & I am so thankful for you. I wish I could give you a big hug 🐻💟

[@positivepenny5477]

As a girl who's dad died at 7, I feel the same way. ❤️

[@KD-vw3bv]

❤❤❤

[@serpentines6356]

👍 👍 👍 💜

[@SlootyBooty]

Proud internet daughter of Jordan Peterson. If I ever was lucky enough to meet him in person I would probably just sob uncontrollably between "thank you's".

[@RichardBirdsall]

If there's ever a place to see the kinder side of the anonymous Internet overcome the ignorant hate we often read, it's a Jordan Peterson video. My heart is happy for you!

[@Teri313-]

I have been calling Jazz Jennings' mother a Munchausen By Proxy mom for several years now. I watched the first 3-4 seasons of I Am Jazz and it is clear to me that she is getting something out of Jazz's transition and being on TV. And it's more than just money. It is the attention and adulation she gets from the trans community that she loves, and I'd say even craves. And she gets away with it because she is the iron fist in her family. Everyone is afraid to stand up to Jeanette. Thank you Dr. Peterson, I'm so glad to hear a professional use that term to describe the overzealous parent pushing transitioning. It needs to be said more and taken seriously.

[@AmoebaInk]

I only became aware of the show a few weeks ago and got that vibe very strongly.

[@craigg5410]

We call it transhausen by proxy

[@DeirdreMcNamara]

money too!

[@randibass7558]

Boy, I hate that controlling mother of Jazz.

[@Geoplanetjane]

I would agree

[@travisvirgoe1310]

My daughter began to struggle in middle school with bullying and mental health and identity issues. By 13/14 she was dressing very masculine (whereas previously loved pink, dresses and sparkles). She eventually decided she wanted to change her name and was non-binary. I spoke to our gp about her struggles and pur worry that she was having identity issues based on a self esteem issues. At oyr cery next appt she indicated to my daughter that she could send her to an endocrinologist to put her on hormone blockers. That was never something my daughter mentioned or requested, she knew about her struggle with bullying and mental health issues and yet yhat was her go to. I never took her back. Not to our doctor or to any therapists. Two years later. She is a pretty happy, healthy, stable girl. Its really sad that we felt we couldnt take our mentally struggling child for help because the cure would be worse than the illness 😢

[@PatchworkUSA]

We're losing "nuances" in all aspects of our lives. I've always enjoyed my individual interests and went through many stages before becoming a grownup woman (who is an artist but in technology professionally). For instance, at age 10, I had a dead bug collection in my room as well as marbles I won playing with the boys, wanted to join Little League baseball but at the same time loved my lacy slips with the little pink satin rose with green satin leaves on the bodice and sewing clothes for my Barbie doll. We are all patchworks. Everything is a patchwork. Nowadays, there is this frantic "taking sides" activity to everything - undoubtedly caused by the media. You have to be one thing or the other - no nuances. No patchwork anything - that's too hard I guess. Patchworks don't fit into clickbait titles.........

[@l_b_calm]

I relate to what all you said! I was such a tomboy growing up. It made me smile in remembrance about the slips with the pink satin roses. I loved those also and my dolls.

[@hllyenaylleth9576]

That's nicely said! Beautiful!

[@markjohnson188]

Sara hit it one. Gender is not "assigned" at birth, it is observed. Kudos to this brave woman.

[@katiefrankie6]

YEA. Preach it!!! Gender is an immutable characteristic that we observe but cannot decide.

[@georgewagner7787]

I work for a nonprofit in New York City where most of the staff is pretty liberal. But some of them in private conversations confess to me that some of this stuff is ridiculous. The students have to fill out a form that includes questions about gender and the other gal said you know that's like having to tell who you sleep with. Isn't that a violation of privacy?

[@johnjohnson9658]

Your gender is assigned by God its not a choice .

[@BarnDoor-won5ve]

​@@katiefrankie6 and furthermore to add to that fact, it used to just simply be referred to as "sex". One's sex is either male or female. Gender used to be restricted to use in the context of Grammer in language as in feminine or masculine which is why they started using gender and sex interchangeably to be used to self identify where one falls on the spectrum from masculine to feminine. But that's what the new world order is about; changing definitions because words have power. Kinda like how what used to be called "disagreement" now means "refusing to accept and validate one's own opinion that they've convinced themselves is fact and therefore an attack justifying verbally and/or physically lashing out"

[@katiefrankie6]

@@BarnDoor-won5ve AGREEEEEEEE!!!

[@selahr.]

As a clinician that specializes in dissociative disorders in adult survivors of severe childhood trauma, people greatly underestimate how difficult it can be for traumatized children to understand and accept their gender, sexuality, and body, as well as difficulty understanding “who they are” (or having a settled sense of personal identity) even far into adulthood. To assume young children and teens have it all figured out and can know for certainty that medical transition is correct for them is insane. It’s not uncommon for clinicians in this speciality to see women in their 30’s and 40’s just now start realizing the reality, extent and damage done by their early childhood trauma. These women can also present with Dissociative Identity Disorder that they aren’t aware of. These people can have alternate personalities with very different sense of identity (including age, race, gender, etc). If they can live with this level of psychopathology for this long without knowing it, we have no right to assume children and teens have any better chance of knowing if they are living with the same divided sense of self. We must stop fast-tracking transition and go back to doing real therapy.

[@amihere383]

I’m screenshotting this comment. It could not be put better.

[@romielnagar1062]

I am copying your words and passing them on. I hope that's okay,. YOU SHOULD PUBLISH THIS OPINION, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. Write a book about it. I wish people understood this. I suffered trauma as a child. It was not as severe as some, but I was VERY reluctant to come to terms with being a woman, and it wasn't until late in my twenties that I decided I wanted to have children. I can well understand that for women (and men, too) who have been raped at a young age, or suffered other terrible abuse, "getting it together" is a long and painful journey. Thank you for all you have done for people.

[@lindap8535]

Then you have those in the psychiatry & medical fields who see the dollar signs in the novelty. Tell me, when is the last time a doctor actually cured someone with type 2 diabetes? The cure & tools are there. If a doctor can bill $350 to the insurance company each time a diabetic makes an office visit. Which do you think the doctor will choose? $350 once verses say $750k for the patients lifetime? The doctor is going to choose the lifetime treatment every time. Something to ponder... The parents who want their child to transition because they are deep down stigmatized they might have a gay child? Treat the parent, save the child . Then you have a parent like my own sister-in-law who wanted a girl, she dressed from day one her son as a girl. She demanded he & everyone conform & was very strict with him. The father was absent. The school system said & did nothing. Her brother did try to intervene and help the child. The courts did nothing. Her son committed suicide at age 9. He wrote a suicide note just before hanging himself. Sad, he thought suicide was his only way to escape his mothers mental illness. To this day, she feels she is the victim & blames her son and walking among us. Everyone failed this child.

[@highlandergrog6041]

As a person who has DID I strongly agree with you. I had my own issues with our gender identification and honestly thought I was trans like my step mother. I’m so lucky I had a good therapist who understood what I was going through and was able to help me understand what was happening before I made any permanent decisions.

[@backintimealwyn5736]

@@lindap8535 they might see the dollar sign of lawsuits someday.

[@Befriendyourmindbody]

I dropped out of a psychotherapeutic training last year. It was the next level of something I am trained in and really passionate about, But when we got in there it was being taught from the left. We all as therapists had to go round and give our social identities, identify with those and relate to each other from those subjective identities. Intersectionality was also being used around gender issues. I dropped out and complained in writing about the risks for our field of politics driving training. How can we work with people safely if we have agenda. I work with complex ptsd and the thought that this agenda is around vulnerable people without stable self concept is awful. And is there space now for gender non conformity due to being on the spectrum, being a masculine female, feminine male, or just because....... or do you have to be trans? I have had clients who had such deep internalised homophobia that they wanted to kill that part of themselves, but they integrated that and thrived after. If they went to a gender affirming therapist something very different would have happened. Medicalising as a first line of trreatment improves the bottom line of pharma, not the mental health of most people.

[@kelseycray1230]

I had an aunt who recently passed away. When I was growing up she was always known to us as “aunt Trish” which was short for her mothers full name. At some point when I was about 10 years old, she announced that she’d changed her name to (another female name). Some of her friends and even a couple of siblings went along with it and called her by her new legal name. Most of us did not. The day she died my father called to say his sister Trish had passed. NEVER did she insist on being called this new name, though she had legally changed it. This phenomenon of adults losing it and melting down over “dead naming” is ridiculous. We know you as ______, you cannot make society conform overnight if at all!!

[@burgandy57]

You can tell she's still learning how to be fully honest with herself in the way she communicates. It's very hard and it's very admirable of her. Keep going! You will only become more powerful for good.

[@christopherkucia1071]

I’m doing the same and pulling myself out of alcoholism, stagnation and general NOT growing up and walking a path of hardship, struggle and just inconvenience. Destruction. Im learning everyday. From 16-25 I wasted my life and made DAMAGE. Went BACKWARDS. It feels incredible but I have to be careful to watch mania (pink cloud) or general nativity.

[@christopherkucia1071]

Like, I can’t regret my past. That is foolish. I should use my past to learn and do better. I am learning honesty helps in MANY aspect but honesty at all times can also harm me…

[@burgandy57]

​​​@@christopherkucia1071 that's right brother. Lean into it. That is so great. YES. Tread lightly but with the deepest honesty and humility possible. It hurts at first and then can become righteous power for the good. God bless

[@alexdentremont000]

@@christopherkucia1071 Good on you mate. One day at a time.

[@christopherkucia1071]

@@burgandy57 god bless!

[@madisonshira2706]

I’m a therapist practicing in Oregon and I am So thankful for this conversation and to know for a fact that I and the couple of other individuals who have not completely bought the lies are not alone.💕 Thank you Jordan for this interview

[@BingusTheWockis]

Good to know that there's at least one sane person in Oregon!

[@tripzincluded8087]

((::)) Truth = Being , born as a Human & Humans are either male or female ..[transgenders are not human] ..

[@angelaratzay9034]

Have all the teachers and parents forgotten what it was like when they were young?I'm not sure how I would react if a Dr or others tried ro butcher my child.i might end up in jail This is cruelty abuse that cannot be undone.thank you Dr Peterson for all you do love every word you utter

[@carybrown3070]

The sadder part is that some of these parents will ignore your advice, and head to the next therapist until they find one that will go along with them!

[@myho-pe8655]

@madisonshira2706 you’re not alone in Oregon. Just not sure how to get in front of the flaming hot evil bullet of Teachers union and ODE and school boards to STOP THE MADNESS. This is the work of the devil. He’s sly as a serpent! But has not teeth, no venom, no billets against righteousness.

[@azizulfikri8392]

It's sad to think that all of this situation is all started because we care too deeply. I applaud you Sara for speaking up knowing very well how this will affect her work in future. Thank you for standing up for the children as you always do

[@datplaylist10]

I was very confused as a young girl and all i can say is THANK GOD I was born in '91 because I simply grew out of it instead of being convinced that I was a boy and thrown into something you can't come back from. I relate strongly to Chloe Cole and hope she wins with the legal action she's taking. Thank you two for educating us further on this matter and I hope it makes a big difference in future children's lives. I believe the majority of people support these stances but are too fearful to say anything (though this could just be my optimism). Unfortunately, all I can do is "like, comment, subscribe" but I wish I could do more to help.

[@jamieparrish5143]

My oldest son had a baby doll (left at my house by a girl cousin). He only cared because I had just had his little brother. He was 2. He had “his baby”, and I had “my baby”. It made him feel better about getting less attention than he was used to. He would feed his baby when I fed my baby. He changed diapers. I would tell him he was such a great daddy! It lasted a few weeks, and the baby doll went by the wayside, but it was as really helpful during the transition from only child to sibling.

[@grandmajane2593]

My son used to do similar things. I would sit in the rocking chair, nursing the baby and my 3 yr old sat near me holding his teddy bear close to his chest. It made me feel so sorry for him. I would try to hold him and rock him after I was finished with the baby but he'd just take off running and pretending he was driving his "car".

[@magneticflux7833]

That's adorable lol

[@eowyneadig7879]

My brother had a Cabbage Patch doll he loved and our dad worried just a little about his masculinity. Then somebody caught him outside at church holding one of the doll’s legs swinging it and whacking bugs with its head, and my dad no longer worried about him.

[@returnofthemac2951]

@@eowyneadig7879 😂

[@grandmajane2593]

@@eowyneadig7879 - That is so funny! I can picture the little guy hitting bugs with the doll! L o L ! There is nothing more boyish than that! Later on they came out with all those masculine dolls for boys, not sure you remember. GI Joe, Ken, etc. My boys had the GI Joe doll, I can't remember if they ever played with it though.

[@mariak3212]

That poor father who took his own life. My jaw dropped unfortunately he's not the only one. Imagine being a father and your son being manipulated and permanently disfigured due to hormon drugs and surgery. And the courts taking away any chance of saving your boy. How can a mother be so evil to hurt her son. Just horrendous.

[@adam.rangihana]

There is nothing but tears... Nothing but Sadness... 😪

[@roman466]

These people have maunchausen syndrome they hurt their kids for clicks clout or revenge

[@Chaos468]

That would be devastating! My sons’ father and I don’t get along, but I think that’s one thing we would stand firm on, I’m glad I have had the conversation with my sons about what they think of boys being girls and girls being boys. They bluntly said they just can’t understand it. These parents are permanently changing their children, I know even as a woman in my 30s I still make impulsive decisions at times, let alone when I was in my adolescence or even in childhood. It’s just sad, what’s next?

[@crazyduckhuntingfool]

munchausen by proxy. Narcissist, cluster B personality

[@GingeRenee]

If it happened to me as a mother I wouldn’t want to go on either. I’m not ashamed to admit it. I wouldn’t want to live in a world where I couldn’t protect my children and have to stand by and watch the evil being perpetuated against them. I would die if anything happened to my babies. They are my world and I’m thankful for them everyday.

[@Kat-I-am]

Blessings to sarah for the courage to come forward, we need more like her... 🌹

[@canecorsomom2023]

10 years ago when my oldest son started school, we were talking about kids whose family couldn't afford to feed them so their only meals were at school. We talked about kids who were homeless and trying to get through school. Kids who didn't really have a stable adult figure of any kind. Now this is all we hear about. Did all those issues just go away magically?

[@marymcnay7335]

Thank you for your courage. Five years ago my 14-year old granddaughter declared she was a boy. Because I argued against it (with logic), I am mostly ostracized from the family and don't know if any surgical intervention has taken place, but the hormone "therapy" was begun then. To hug my granddaughter and feel whiskers against my cheek is heartbreaking. Please continue your fight so that fewer of our children and grandchildren are sacrificed in this manner.

[@WitchySofia]

Your grandson must be disappointed in you.

[@FourQueue]

@@WitchySofia so?

[@Azure-ex6dg]

The issue with that is, gender dysphoria is a real and ultimately very serious "mental disorder," which can lead to other mental problems down the line if left untreated (or if the important people in their life don't provide the support they need), and trying to argue against it is like telling someone with depression that their feelings aren't 'real' or are only temporary - it usually just makes things worse for them. Often, the only way to treat it is to provide the necessary care, whether it be through surgeries, hormone therapy, encouraged self-expression, and etc. So what I'm trying to say is, even if you don't agree with their lifestyle, please try your best to support your grandson for his sake.

[@ash3878]

@@WitchySofia Not a Man. Never a Man.

[@evanellis9178]

@@ash3878 more of a man than you will ever be

[@KatieSmith-ue9ld]

Puberty is a difficult time for girls. I was 11 when I started my period in 1973. My mother grew up in the depression and puberty sex and childbirth was never discussed. My sister who was 13 brought me pads into the bathroom ,a gift from my mother, my sister put the pads on the counter and said "here, you are a woman now". She left and shut the bathroom door. I cried my eyes out! I did not feel like a woman, I felt like a child. I held my stuffed elephant and sobbed. It was 1 year later in 6th grade that I got my sex ed class. I worried that I would get huge wide hips, I worried alot but it was not discussed. Then In 7th grade I had boys standing at my locker waiting fof me to grab me and feel up under my bra! I was terrified!@ After that, I wore a loose fitting jacket for a year. I wore that jacket in the summer that year too. When I was 16 years old, I had been sexually active for two years, I bought myself a book titled "A Woman's Body". I read that book cover to cover and still hsve the book. It really helped me understand who I was. Which is much more than lipstick, long hair and a penetrative hole for a man. The book covered everything. From conception to giving birth that a girl snd women go through. It hrlped me immensely. As difficult as puberty was for me, it seems far worse now for children. There was only one choice for me, that was a path to womanhood. To confuse our children at this critical time in life is criminal. I do not believe in giving children choices like they are doing. Many will choose a different path that appears easier or what their friends are choosing, not of their choosing, with no understanding of consequenses later in life. At 18 years old, I did not EVER want children. At 19 years old and married, I wanted a baby more thsn anything! I have a beautiful daughter , she is 40 now. I cannot say how my life would be if I was told I could hsve chosen a way out of womanhood at 11 or 12 years of age. It is criminal!!!

[@katiefrankie6]

Started my period at age 10. Felt like the world was ending and that I’d never be happy again. I was shy about bodies and womanhood and lived in fear of all the things I was afraid I’d have to experience as a woman. Also, my periods were heavy and that led to ruined clothes, embarrassment, etc. It was not an easy time and I feel heartbroken for girls and the perceived loss of innocence they may undergo as they move from girlhood to womanhood. I’m a very content, happy woman now but I look back on those first years of puberty with a shudder.

[@llIlIlllII]

It is hard, for ALL of us girls. I was always embarrassed to hear anything related to sex or bodily changes from my mother. Like Chloe, I worried about not developing feminine beauty in my face and features, height, hips, breasts, and not getting wanted male attention (unwanted attention still happened from time to time, usually adults laughing at clichés like when I'd date for the first time). If anyone has the right to say they feel trapped in the wrong body, it belongs to masculine women and feminine men. Yet we try our best to accept our bodies as they are. That's part of life. You dehumanize yourself and our species by proposing this alternate route of surgery and cosmetics as somehow not only superior, but possible. Acceptance is the only way forward in life.

[@madelineharkins5643]

Touche!

[@shannaveganamcinnis-hurd405]

I’ve read thousands of comments regarding this. It is very clear to me that many many people have felt dissatisfied with their bodies and genders as young people. All of the comments speak to the fact that they grew out of the issue and are very happy now.

[@givmi_more_w9251]

@@shannaveganamcinnis-hurd405 It's fascinating to me, because my experience, while not completely dissimilar, was nowhere near this scary. I got my first period at 12 years old and at school, or on the way home, as I only noticed when I got home. Granted I was lucky that it was not very heavy and I didn't bleed through my clothes. Now, I had actually good sex ed classes, that simply communicated the biology. No mention of sex positions, pleasure, or gay sex, or gender identity nonsense (ah, the early 2000s truly were a simpler time...), just 'this is how reproduction works' and 'this is what your bodies will go through soon. Also, girls be cautious about TSS, otherwise, menstruation is a normal bodily function, you'll live." It was still awkward as fuck, but I to this day appreciate my school for providing me with it. So getting my first period was still surprising and not particularly pleasant, but not shocking, as I knew what was going on. Told my mom, she quietly drove to a drug store to get me pads, boom. No fussing, apart from 'make sure to change them rather too often than too rarely'. After the first 'ick, blood in my panties' was gone, I was kinda thrilled. Back in my day, kids always wanted to be like adults and grow up, so getting my first period felt a bit like a rite of passage. I don't remember any incidents with the boys at my school. They were being hormonal idiots like teenage boys are, sometimes loud, rowdy, insufferable, making sexual jokes. I can remember one getting gropey, but I simply slapped him into next week, and nobody cared, with me caring the least about it. Now maybe being ugly, relatively flat-chested and chubby saved me from all the copious unwanted adult male attention that 12-y-o girls seem to get at the slightest sign of budding breasts that I read about in comment sections, but at least as far as I remember, such incidents were NOT the norm when I grew up.

[@climbingtheladder2720]

Straight male 33 happily married. I feel if I was a kid in todays age I would have been transitioned. Far left mother, I used to play with polly pockets (just thought they were fun toys), draw flower pattered pictures, it was noted I didn’t play well with boys, etc. I just know that behavior now would get noticed & I’m not sure how I would have responded as a child if an adult told me I should transition. Way to intense of a subject to drop on children, glad this conversation happened.

[@alfadas1443]

Thank you very much for this resource. As a psychotherapist in training, my second patient, a young woman, came to me with the request that I write her a letter confirming the necessity of surgery to remove her breasts and uterus, as she identified as asexual. When I explained why I could not write such a letter, she told me that she had already found a transgender center that could arrange for the costs of the surgery to be covered by her health insurance. My biggest regret is that due to my lack of experience and, frankly, fear of misstepping in this minefield, I was not able to form a good working relationship with her. She had clearly defined psychological problems such as social anxiety and depression, and I am convinced that classical psychotherapy could have helped her greatly. Perhaps I was not ready for the task back then, but since she found the "easy fix" from the transgender center, it was frightening to see her pathway. Awkward teenager + poor social skills and few friends - bullying - lowered self-esteem - self-isolation - depression - entering online community centered around LGBTQ+ - first time feeling accepted - sharing that her problems started when she hit puberty - answer: because you don't align with your gender - solution: you are asexual and belong in this community. She told me that she never formed or found her identity in her teens, but found it in this online community. Choosing any other path must have seemed so dangerous because it would have threatened the only social connections she had at the time and it would have threatened the idea of her own identity.

[@SomeYouTubeTraveler]

We live in a country where they sell us cures to diseases we don't have, or worse, that they gave us in order to sell the cure. Tell them they're in Hell so you can sell them Heaven. "Ask your doctor about Ozempic"... It's much more lucrative for the Food industry and the Pharmaceutical industry to scratch each other's backs than to actually help anyone. It's no different now with the Psychological industry and the Pharmaceutical. Transhumanism was always a thing playing in the backgrounds of Atheism, but it has finally become the mainstream religion it always wanted to be... and the money soaked up for lifetimes of hormones and drugs and surgeries and follow-ups forever is the tithe it demands.

[@channahnoyb4803]

Growing up there was a girl a few years older than I in our neighborhood. She had been in our school before switching to a new school. After she started a new school, her and a friend decided between the two of them to do a competition and see who can lose the most weight within a specific time. Her friend lost an appropriate amount of weight to a healthy weight, but this girl kept losing weight and became severely anorexic with body dysmorphia. She thought she was still fat. If her parents hadn’t stepped in and got her months of intensive treatment, she would have died. What if her parents had “affirmed” her belief that she was fat and allowed her to continue to her death?

[@thecierraprogam1930]

Wow, such a salient point. And common sensical. Thank you for commenting.

[@jasminmontanari4869]

Totally the same, yeeah

[@AuntyJack123]

Perhaps the parents should of helped her get liposuction and 'affirm' her belief?

[@justnataliek]

Once you have mastered the art of loosing weight, modified your relationship with food and how you eat, it’s very hard to stop. You always fear the weight coming back and fear the lack of control & discipline. Without psychological help in the process it is very easy to slip into anorexia. You are still the same fat person inside. I went from 300lb to 126lb (today) in a little over a year and a half, all natural, no surgery. Now I’m swinging the other way and am having a hard time stopping it. I still have the desire in my mind to want to eat junk food and binge, but my body won’t allow it. There are down sides to massive weight loss I think the people on Ozempic and the other current weight loss drugs are about to get a reality check to. Like rebound weight gain when going off the medication.

[@VitorHugoOliveiraSousa]

@@jasminmontanari4869 it is, a person has a delusional belief that her actual body is not what she see on reality you can them treat the mind or mutilate the body to match the minds perception. Guess which one work and which don't?

[@mariannezwicker3304]

Thank you both so much! I am obsessed with this subject, mostly because my daughter was (almost) a victim. She went as far as taking testosterone, presenting as a boy, cutting her hair, and unofficially changing her name to something more masculine. The only thing that remains today is the unofficial name change, thank God! The literal message is let them transition or they will commit suicide. This from a therapist, not much older than my 18 year old daughter, who met her for fifteen minutes and was already willing to help her transition. We deliberately slowed down the process as much as we could with an eighteen year old “adult”. I specifically asked the doctor what follow up procedures were done for her physical and mental health if she chose to take “T”. The doctor assured me that there was constant follow up. After this visit, CHOP (Children’s Hosp. Of Philadelphia) aggressively pursued my daughter, calling her to see if she “was ready to start her “T” “. After she started it there was no follow up on her physical or mental health, just refills of “T”. Then they actively pursued her to have a mastectomy. They called her constantly to see when they could schedule it for her. I was furious. Her father and I both told her that she would never be a male no matter what she did. I also took her to a talk given by a panel of experts speaking out against transitioning. And therapy. Lots of therapy. Although, beware, most therapists want to simply affirm. It’s maddening! Finally my daughter came to her senses and didn’t have her breasts removed and she went off of the “T”. Today she is a much happier, healthier, beautiful, young woman!

[@texastea5686]

Oof. Why did you agree to go along with your daughter's charade in the first place? Maybe it's because I'm Hispanic and we're old school and conservative, but we weren't gonna have that gay sh*t going on at our house. Now, once they leave the house forever and become adults, then they can do whatever they want. But that's not happening while they live at home. I'm sorry you felt you had to affirm your child's decision.....

[@daisyviluck7932]

I’m glad you had a happy ending

[@barbrothers2]

why would you let your young daughter go on TESTOSTERONE?! Her voice will be forever deepened, and she will have increased hair growth. these changes don't stop when you get off of it. i hope she wasn't on it for long.

[@lauramcclain8651]

You were so blessed and fortunate! Desperately praying my 14 year old daughter comes out of this soon - before pursuing anything medical.

[@kathleenking47]

Does she still have her voice 🤔 I saw a trans. With a full beard, but still has her voice

[@lindsaygt]

What a brilliant dialogue, with such astute insights into so many related domains. "Radically unconstrained freedom is destabilizing". Simply superb !

[@tabithacrapser6369]

Someday the two of you will be held as the standard for ethical practice. Thank you for sharing the truth which is too often hidden from all of us.

[@fionaedmonds389]

I was born in 1955 and grew up always wanting to be a boy so I grew up as a typical tomboy, however, once I became a teenager I was completely happy being a heterosexual female, still I always continued to avoid dresses and skirts until I was in my forty’s when I was comfortable wearing dresses. I have remained a heterosexual female. Glad I didn’t have any options offered to me as a child.

[@erikjrn4080]

My advice to therapists is: Consider what the jury will see and hear, when you're sued for having referred your patient to butchery. Also consider what will be considered criminal malpractice, fifteen years from now; we've all learned how fast that can change. If the jury will sit there and conclude that they've never heard of a serial killer that would do something as depraved as that, or that the most brutal torturers of the dark ages would've been disgusted by you, that means your life will be over, the moment the notification of the lawsuit is put in your hands, or you're arrested for criminal malpractice. Remember, the general public will never feel culpable, even if they should; they can always hide behind having been "mislead by experts". The moment the horror occurs to them, they'll have no issue throwing you under the bus.

[@bvd9701]

Sage advice.

[@SayMyNameSeries]

So well stated. Presented as such would not only pause me but send me running the other way completely.

[@Crysalis-bd9so]

I hope these people wake up to this reality. Medical experimentation never looks good in historical hindsight

[@janettulloch261]

💯agree with advice

[@Mike-ks6qu]

Veritas. The simple fact that as a doctor they are so willing to move forward given the lawsuit and liability climate in America so recklessly is really remarkable. The only things I can deduce from these impulsive actions is they 1. Are fascinated by long term research on these children on puberty blockers as there really is no long term data and 2. They are making an insane amount of money with these treatments. 3. I think this is the lesser of the group, they truly believe they are doing rhe right thing.

[@user-gw9sk1zy4s]

Sara Stockton is an incredibly sensitive and brave woman, speaking out makes a true hero.

[@ari_an_yah]

Here you have two very passionate professionals in their respective fields and I for one am glad I took the time to listen intently to their perspectives on these issues. Thank you, Dr. J.P. and Sarah Stockton. Great interview indeed!

[@jasonritchie2477]

what is happening is absolutely disgusting we really need to put a stop to this and people need to be held accountable

[@paulaclark7989]

I completely agree

[@judyhalsell9510]

God will hold them accountable and what is in store for them is horrific. Pray for this satanic insanity to stop. It is all about money and delusion not about children .

[@layna8052]

I think the parents are to blame in most cases

[@erstwhile6163]

@@layna8052 what about the teachers who are working against the parents, encouraging children to go against st their family values and ideas

[@annamitchell2734]

What a great couple of 🤬 years. Mass Genocide and fatally destroying our children. I want to cry but I don’t think I’d b able to stop 🥵

[@baskoning9896]

Psychiatrists in 1920 to 1960: 'yeah lobotomies are the best' Psychiatrists in 1940 to 1950: 'yeah insuline comas are the best' Psychiatrists in 1880 to 1920: 'yeah cold and hot water baths are the best' Psychiatrists in 1940 to today: 'yeah shock therapy is the best' Psychiatrists in 2020 to today: 'yeah gender mutilation is the best' One day we will look back at the gender mutilation as the Barbary it is.

[@jamesclark6487]

Interesting, ice baths and saunas has been a thing again recently (similar to your mention of hot/cold baths). More for the sport orientated & affluent, provisioning the activity and having the time is a component.

[@danwachler5480]

@@jamesclark6487 Cold and hot water baths were thought to be effective in the treatment of influenza and colds, not just as a general wellness practice.

[@arkbien9303]

At least shock therapy is now used under very rare and specific circumstances, and under anesthesia

[@cumuluseremiel1209]

​​@@arkbien9303 even lobotomy is still medically rarely used under another name, I mean it's still all used but regulated and specific to cases that actually need it, same needs to happen to this madness

[@arkbien9303]

@@cumuluseremiel1209 Oh, I had heard there was a procedure that is occasionally done for children with life threatening untreatable seizures that involves removing up to nearly half of the brain. Apparently, due to neuroplasticity children recover with minimal permanent disability. 🙂

[@M2xim]

The ''3 sessions'' part kept echoing in my head the whole interview. What is going on is pure insanity. 3 dates ain't even enough for me to determine if i want a serious relationship with someone and that's something relatively easier to figure out and the range of consequences is far less dramatic. The part about social contagion was very interesting too. I've experienced one of these epidemic(cutting) and i never thought about it like that but that's exactly what it was. I did it because i was young, confused, influenceable and in pain. I've seen someone do it so i copied that behavior. My ex at the time followed suit. Then it was her friends and so on. I'm one generation away from these kids. I really dodged a bullet. My scars always weighted on me but they look so insignificant now... I'm so glad i wasn't born in the generation of kids cutting their whole dick off... Next time someone ask about my arm I'll just say ''Oh that? I won the lottery''. 🤣

[@tessfairbridge]

40 yr old ex cutter here too, though I also dabbled in bulimia, thankfully none of it stuck. What I discovered on my own journey is that I did not know how to process my (intense) feelings and in addition to that they were shamed out of me, so I just thought there was something wrong with me for feeling so intensely. Now I am a creative, know my feelings fuel my creativity, and I love them but it took a few decades. Thinking about how little young girls know about their bodies and their feelings makes me so afraid for this new "trend".

[@p.f.3141]

Such clear, poignant explanations which are incredibly relevant. These talks are vital in balancing out the insanity and narcissism of our current culture. Thank you!

[@charliek359]

My niece is 16 and dresses like a boy and now has short hair. She has always been like this and thought she was a boy until she was 10. I have told her since she was 5 to think for herself and now she does thankfully. I talk to her about this every time I see her without fail. I even gave her my reasons for men not participating in women's sports and now sees I am right about that. This whole thing is demonic :(

[@kaiseylee]

My cousin always said when he grows up he wants to be a woman. We would dress him up on man's clothes and stuff. He came out as gay only a few years back now

[@esthersmith3341]

What is missing here is the child being raised with a strong belief in GOD and their own identity. Children can do anything, girls need to hang out with dad and he needs to allow them to do things with him and boys needs to hang out with mom and do the with her. My parents had children, we all worked on the farm, we all helped in the house, we all mowed the lawn.

[@moonknight4053]

You say she’s always been like that and came across as empathetic and then ruined it by saying “this whole thing is demonic”….. wtfffff are u saying

[@charliek359]

Moon knight. Not her but this whole trans scam. Doctors are making millions off this lie. She’s not going to be told she is a boy is what I am saying. Yes this destruction of kids is demonic.

[@kaiseylee]

I agree with the demonic term. It's very cult like

[@patriciaseyfferle1427]

I was a mental health counselor, not in practice anymore. One of the messages I was receiving was that we were not allowed to question a client who claimed to be trans; if they said they were, it had to be accepted. I could not do that.

[@Hebrew42Day]

Sadly that's the message in every sector now. When someone comes out demanding to be labeled as something they are not, we just have to go along to keep our job. I'm praying for Father to deliver me from that bondage as I'm still in the bondage of debt and unsure how to pay for that if I quit my job.

[@pjj.5649]

Good for you!!! I don't think I could have done that either. Not being able to talk freely and question is like having the a session with a client and you are a blank wall. It is disgusting.

[@camp_daddy]

Why do you think you are a more intelligent authority on someone else's gender or transness than themselves? Thank god you're not practicing anymore you sound like a Narcissist sociopath

[@nickscarla-tl9xp]

Honestly at that point what is the point of even having that stage of a counselor session? Seems like waste of money to pay an employee just to stamp the kids forehead and yell “Next!”

[@johnholmes6667]

Patricia. Transsexualism violates Natural Law. Our Moral Compass must serve as our guide and can’t be locked up or dismissed.

[@brendawatkins5751]

LOVE THESE CHILDREN AND HUG AND MAKE THEM FEEL LOVED, AND THEIR EMOTIONS ARE PURE AND SWEET,AND DON'T EVER DIST THEM EVER.

[@netsurfer2005]

Thank you Sara for opening up & sharing your perspective. It is very much needed at this time. May peace be upon you. 🙏

[@lithiumgirl2782]

I went through this for about two seconds when i was a kid. I wasn't scared that I was next, or that I would grow a penis, but I was uncomfortable in my own skin, I hated my self and my life and I hated that my brother and other boys I knew were stronger than me. I hated being a girl even though I loved everything girl. I told my Mom about it, not everything; I couldn't, I didn't have the vocabulary to, I just told her that I wanted to be a boy. It was a really short conversation, because she shut me right down and told me, I was a girl. I challenged her by asking if she was sure, which made her look at me like I was crazy , and told her, "I hated being a girl" And she consoled me by clapping back ...'Tough Shit!" At that point I knew the argument was over, and I did the normal girl thing ... Stamped my foot and stormed off to my room to listen to the mini pops and Blondie. Like thank God she didn't book a surgery ...

[@heavyweight1028]

Raised 4 daughters . No one ever wanted to be a boy just get with a boy and “ Tough shit” got used every day usually more than once.

[@lithiumgirl2782]

Sounds harsh. My mom was smart, she understood what the problem was right away.

[@MMacAttack]

Now these monsters are scaring parents with “ do you want a dead daughter or a living son” bullshit. Convincing tomboys & gay fem boys they’re the opposite sex. These monsters need to be stripped of medical licenses & put in prison

[@KK-mm8ms]

@lithium girl 🙄everything sounds harsh. That's the problem. Life is hard.. Why pretend it isn't?

[@lithiumgirl2782]

@@KK-mm8ms Just saying, my mom understood what the problem was. She wasn't pretending and she didn't let me get carried away with it.

[@carolynross9161]

I had a bilateral mastectomy 5 years ago because I had breast cancer. The surgery removed the cancer, but it also changed me on a much deeper level. I gave birth to four children without any pain meds, and hands down the mastectomy was more painful several times over. I still have no feeling in my chest where my breasts were, and never look at myself in the mirror without clothes on. I would love to have a chance to talk to a girl who's considering a mastectomy for no medical reason and give her some insight into the permanence of this decision. I am not a counselor, so if I was given the opportunity to share my experience it would have to be under the supervision of a mental health professional. If anyone reading this knows if this is even possible, and if so how I could set it into motion, I would very much appreciate hearing from you.

[@partdeux992]

❤️

[@misfitm1457]

They absolutely should have to talk to women like you! Also (and this may not be something you'd want), some women have a tattoo done over their chest and scars to help them feel beautiful again (which you are ofc)

[@carolynross9161]

@@misfitm1457 I've thought about the tattoo, but I'm 59 and older skin doesn't tattoo well. At least that's what they say on Ink Master. Thank you for your kind words.

[@billyje4726]

Make a KZbin video!! 🙏

[@DRAMAKEKE]

​@Carolyn Ross professional tattooer here. You can absolutely get it tattooed and I highly suggest you do. It'll help you look in the mirror and see your beautiful self and strength. ❤ they say that because younger, non sun damaged skin is ideal when you're in that contest like, high stakes sort of environment. Find an artist and meet them. Look at photos of their work and see reviews. Don't be cheap. Don't just pick anybody. And get tattooed. It will look beautiful and your skin can absolutely do it. Oldest person I tattooed was 84. ❤

[@CelesteT.T]

Thank you Sara Stockton for your courage and speaking out! You have a very big heart. Sending you positive thoughts.

[@tommydaniels1805]

I’ve been away for your channel for a little while, and just off the intro alone. I remember not only how fond I am of your teachings, but how much I look up to you. Whenever too much time is gone past since returning one of my first thoughts is ‘God I’m happy I exist at the same time as YOU’ Ty JP ❤️

[@kimberlyhartman4865]

I feel exactly the same way.

[@maryjohnston4296]

I have 3 grown daughters. Each one went through hormonal turmoil from about 13 to 18. They then settled down. Each one went through a lot of emotional turmoil. We rode out the teen years with patience and love .

[@serenapimentel7372]

I have 3 girls and I worry so much about this approaching age. I wonder if warning them as they get older that 13 and on is a very hard time and to expect to feel extreme sadness, self doubt and emotional turmoil. Do you think that would have helped your girls? If you had prepared them for what was coming mentally? I wonder if it would have helped me. I had a very hard time too during those years. The only thing I was warned about was my period. But none of the other destabilizing emotions were discussed as a woman's right of passage so to speak. If I had known how common it was to feel that way maybe it would have made it less intense and personal.

[@clutchboi4038]

@@serenapimentel7372 yes definitely do that. The same thing needs to happen with young men too. Every young man and woman needs a good mentor who will thoroughly discuss ideas and life in general. Tell them extra early.

[@kanadianbacon7733]

*"BRING UP a little Child in the Way they should go....and when they are older...they will not depart from it"*

[@amandakish5828]

I went through it really hard when I was a teen. I think almost everyone did, in their own ways.

[@serenapimentel7372]

@@amandakish5828 It's definitely something I feel we should discuss with our daughters before they go through it so they can recognize it and not get lost in it. It can be a traumatic time.

[@grannygoes7882]

The fact that the assessment tool was developed by a bunch of grad students instead of professionals who had worked in the field for years is very telling as well. Excellent interview!

[@Friendofstfrank]

Don't think 'experts' are better. A tool called the UCAT has been used since 1985 and applying analysis it is neither valid (measures what it is suppose to measure) nor reliable (get consistent results over time). Yet here we are 2023 and this same assessment developed by expert-wrote books-is still used. When you get into psych testing most of it is bogus. The IQ tests are the 'best', however, only correct 68% of the time or if you make the assessment accurate you can predict someone has an IQ between 90-120. Would you ride an airplane if there was a 32% chance you would not arrive safely at your destination?

[@peaches4052]

This is a very big issue even in research

[@downpeakmoore1265]

Thank you so much for continuing to bring this conversation forward in our society.

[@brendawatkins5751]

DR. JORDEN IS A VERY INTELEGENT PERSON,AND THAT IS RARE IN TODAYS TIME AND DAYS.

[@andywhtwo000]

The story about her son at 1:01:30 really hits home for me. I was bullied a lot as a kid. Mostly verbal being teased about being gay even though I had no notion of the thought. But there was a time where I thought it would be better if I was a girl because boys were mean and girls were nicer. It's still hard for me today to have meaningful relationships with other men. But I'm glad that I had my faith and a supportive family to reassure me that I was made with purpose by God. I can only imagine what my life would look like if I'd grown up in today's culture. Gratefully, I stand, a man with a wonderful wife of nearly 15 years and four children.

[@lilolmecj]

Trust me, girls are just as mean, they express it differently. A boy will punch you a girl will try to destroy your life.

[@flymommah]

I am proud of you for keeping the faith, in yourself and to the Higher Being (not sure if your Christian/Catholic). I think it is quite normal to have this phase in life where you question your being. I went through the same when I was younger - was more of a tomboy and is not confident of my womanhood. But I focused on the more important things in life - friend, education, family, achieving my dreams and all. I am now happy and contented as a woman (not cis woman as others want us to be called), has a family of my own, 2 kids and at peace with myself. All the best for you.

[@angelasanchez4413]

Thays so wonderful to hear. My husband went through the same experience. He Gave his life to Christ at 10 and he always knew that no matter how hard it was, God was there to comfort him until I got there. 24 years and going strong ❤

[@rayaussie8325]

Wow man you are blessed . Yeah many of the guys are going through these things . I was bullied at school, at home,and married a narcissist who turned my three boys against me. The Lord turned my life around , and I am empath. The Lord kept me from everything bad . Though I am attacked from time to time the Lord continues to bless me .His love has sustained me.He has shown me miracles and how he works protection over me. I walk forever even now with no fear at all due to God 's perfect love I fear nothing .I look around finding many in despair everywhere ,and I have found many who were bullies at school and those omy family don't have God ,don't believe there is God and will not listen. I am glad for my whole life . You too are blessed.

[@scottwooldridge8946]

I think questioning your sex is a normal part of life. Girls will see boys playing sports and doing other boyish things and want to take part in that, and the same is true of boys. That doesn't mean they need to be mutilated. It means their normal children.

[@a.colleenfray2138]

I studied psychology in early college years and was taught many of the diseases and history she stated she had NOT learned. I don’t understand this. And the fact that a health professional can offer treatments after just 3 sessions was completely disgusting and unethical to me. I am crying for our youth. This interview was eye opening to me, thank you to both for bringing this out in the open.

[@tammykelsey7877]

Thank you Sara and Dr. Peterson!!! God and peace be with you both!!! ❤️🙏✌🏻

[@jeannenicoletta377]

I just have to say, Thank you!! This open discussion is a way to open up the facts, the science, the psychological and emotional ramifications of not knowing all the information. Thank you for providing me with so much more to think critically about the situation and do more research and learn before I make a decision for my own opinion and feelings.

[@TRUEMIXEDBLOOD]

"Deadnaming" as a method/pathway of suicide normalization is something I've never considered, but I think completely agree. This conversation was bone-chilling.

[@cosmiccometchichi]

probably a lot of these kids are already suicidal and want to be harmed

[@brodykin3505]

A friend whose daughter "transitioned" and changed her name felt as if her child had died. I feel such pain for these kids, and for their parents.

[@biggaydave5905]

The balls on this clinician to change her mind and come forward. Bravo

[@victorianguyen6620]

TY you Sara for sharing your story and the truth about this horrifying issue. God bless.

[@emma2554]

this interview is so powerful and I love how Jordan truly engages in a deep conversation that shows a respect of knowledge that this woman has to share!

[@TheFishFTW]

Honesty is RARE these days. Cudos to these clinicians for being honest even though the peer pressure is pushing the other direction! They truly care about children! 👏👏👏

[@EllenJiang-zj4dc]

It.s amazing the progressive actions that matter in today's life. I've had dealt with doctors all my life and in my opinion that they don't know anything about the subjects that their interjecting into their cultures societies . They prey on their patients by giving them unnecessary medications. As well as medication that have harmful side affects that react to each other. These doctors have no Idea of chemical reactions with drugs pharmacists do. These doctors are getting kick backs from the pharmaceutical companies to get them to prescribe their drugs even if they don't need them. Our heath care system is designed to make the doctors, pharmaceutical companies and the government officials that get money for putting laws through. all they want is for you to be a unit that will take their drugs and systems without any questions JUST DO WHAT WE SAY CAUSE YOU MENTALLY ILL

[@marietgagliardi]

I was a tomboy. I had short hair, ran wild outside during the day, played with cars and wore my brother's hand me downs. When I hit puberty, I suddenly enjoyed being a girl. Im still on the masculine side bit definitely female. So glad I didn't grow up today with woke parents. Frightening to think about 😢

[@missfeliss3628]

ya... dont have to do anything to ur body ... i was and always will be a sort of tomboy in my personality... never a dumb bimbo girly girl who cant be a bro and chummy with the boys...always was one of the boys and still am... biking, snowboarding , rock climbing , never cared about hair nails makeup tanning, gossip, boobs, periods or boyfriends..... most girls unfortunately truly dont have a brain or real athletiscm

[@marlohunt9127]

relatable

[@cheyennebodene2860]

Me also !

[@rpgadventurer32]

You were always a girl, or a female. This is simply biology. Personality traits are a different thing entirely. This is why children and young adults get dissociated from their own bodies; they conflate personality traits and personal social expression - hair styles, make up, dresses vs pants, liking certain things over other things - with their immutable Sex. No matter how you dress or act, you will always be a human female. The radical gender ideology is conflating and confusing people and is extremely regressive as it pushes social gender norms of the late 50's onto modern children and young adults as a way to convince them that they were born in the wrong bodies, it goes hand in hand with the false invented third person pronouns and the need to state them and force other to do so, as if they are a different type of humans altogether or a third type of "humans".

[@marietgagliardi]

@@rpgadventurer32 yes, I know that. But I think wacky Trans parents would try to convert a child like me

[@pickledpisces7745]

Thank you Sara for having the courage to speak up on this subject 💜💜💜💜

[@prayloudly3983]

I truly appreciate you tackling this topic!

[@heathersmeather]

Oh my gosh. I thought this interview was so good. I decided to watch the remainder on daily wire (bought myself a year for Christmas). It was SO good. This woman has put herself on the line. I’m praying for her and the people she helps. Thank you, Sarah Stockton, for your bravery.

[@EmperorTalpa]

Do you know what they say birds of a heather flock together?

[@shannaveganamcinnis-hurd405]

I have daily wire. How do I find the rest of this interview please?❤

[@samsnead2947]

This is a American tragedy. How can this brutal act against our children be allowed. Glad to see some good therapists are speaking out

[@fluffyanne1177]

It’s going on in Canada at an alarming rate! Not just American!

[@PunjabiGhazal]

It is ok. Stupid people need to be weeded out like they used to be by natural selection in the older times. Now they are a protected species. However, no matter how hard you try to protect them, they will find a way to destroy themselves.

[@arkbien9303]

The UK has had a pretty big go at it too.

[@MrTo3cutta]

It is a global contagion.

[@stefanrobert7228]

Not all,many therapists get kick backs from surgeons ! It is a multi billion dollars money making business . It is sickening!!!!

[@loripark9524]

This is a great conversation! Everyone needs to watch this and just listen. To the pros and cons and what the consequences to these surgeries and medication that is obviously being overlooked.

[@angelaratzay9034]

Great lntervivw.thank you Sara and good luck.refreshing to hear an honest person tell the truth Angela.

[@french2two]

44:08 " You are not assigned at birth. . .you are observed. " How true. Poetic.

[@KnottyCeltic]

I've not got that far in the vid yet but observation at birth isn't a 100 percent truth. The only perfect truth is your genetics. Even If a newborn has dubious genitalia, the truth is in the DNA and can be determined well before birth occurs.

[@JamesStorey09]

It is amazing to see how Sara was able to accept she was wrong. Admit her failings, and then allow herself to be educated and to fight against her previous mentality. It is no small feat to accept you were wrong on that level and not have it absolutely crush you. I wish more people were this courageous. ❤

[@ascent8487]

Actually I think speaking up is the thing I’m impressed by. I’m a very liberal person who feels like I’m living in the twilight zone with all this insistence that I disregard reality upon penalty of being called a BIGOT.

[@donaldminton9295]

Very well spoken

[@Grizzlox]

It's hard to surround yourself with psychological resources and not have it help you assess your own psychological needs as a therapist. If it doesn't, you're likely a complete narcissist.

[@davebaldwin9457]

Nevermind the courage associated with speaking out against a side which has proven repeatedly that it will not hesitate to eat one of its own.

[@deirdreberger1363]

The problem I see is group think and virtue signaling rather than deeply thinking about the child’s deep rooted issues. These are irreversible surgeries.

[@susan5272]

Thank you Jordan for making this possible to watch. It explains so much. I now have a better understanding of my belief system.

[@sarahalderman3126]

I have struggled with my identity for the entirety of my 44 years on this earth, or at least as far as I can remember. I was molested and raped beginning around 4 or 5 years old until 12 years old, by my older male teen cousins and later by a “family friend” in his late thirties or early forties. While I do acknowledge that the molestation/violation did make a massive difference in my personal identity I do not believe it necessarily “caused” this confusion for me. Rather I was always rather tomboyish as a child and the molestation simply made me simply hate being female. I hated being weaker or vulnerable, in any way which is still extremely difficult for me. I never actually wanted to be male, the thought of actually having a penis disgusted me it was/is mostly just not wanting to be female. Additionally I am I guess bisexual, as I am married to a man who I love with all my heart however I am primarily attracted to women. Our sex life has always consisted of fantasy for me despite loving and wanting to love him fully. We both enjoy the fantasy of other women, even when together. In the past this was quite difficult for us both… however once I truly opened my heart and story to my husband, explained the way I felt, we found our path to true connection and intimacy. There is no one right path for us all. However this may be the one example of the one “wrong” path. I can not imagine growing up in this era. I know I would have been drawn into this. The thought terrifies me for these young people, especially those who were traumatized as children. As those of us who are traumatized as children will be drawn into this, this is the easy answer JP speaks about, and this group is particularly vulnerable to this because they are desperate for ANY answers! I am now a happily married woman of 22 years with 9 amazing children 22 through 10. I can not imagine my life without my husband and children, my heart breaks at the thought of my life without them…

[@JackieOwl94]

I had to drop a friend of almost 20 years not because she transitioned to he medically, but because of what remained the same about him. This person clearly believes that, because he is trans, he has the right to step on everyone else following the “victim hierarchy”. This included sexual consent. When a girl, she tried to get me to “turn” lesbian for her for years. We had a large gap in contact, and when we resumed contact, this person would not say no, in spite of me having my husband present in the room. Eventually, it all came out. “I’m trans. You’re a cis woman. We aren’t the same. I can take what I want, when I want. And I want YOU. Your consent is not required.” I’m thankful my husband jumped into action at that moment, because I knew this person had the physical strength to overpower me now, unlike back then when I was much stronger due to a fitness disparity. It still gives me the creeps and makes me sick to my stomach that some people truly believe that in this day and age. Women are today told to shut up and go into the kitchen while these “trans” people beat them and insist on sexual contact. It’s scary. We truly have gone backwards in equality as a society.

[@getoverit2789]

This is SICK!!

[@Qetesh773]

It honestly sounds like this girl was likely abused/r@ped at some point and it’s likely what caused her to think that becoming a him would give him a pass to do the same to someone else 😢. It’s truly sad because so much therapy and healing is needed not affirmation of dis-function.

[@evanpetelle5669]

That’s some sicko stuff & it’s also a mindset that is promoted amongst the ideology. Scary.

[@tedregular7570]

My ex-roommates friend was a large gay man. He used to grope me and hit me as a joke every time he’d come over. I moved out and will hurt him permanently if he ever touches me again. Stay strong. Love and kindness can still win the day😢

[@burdeo2313]

So they tried to rape you in front of your husband? That sounds crazy.

[@tomlevasseur8550]

I’m a retired mental health social worker. The agency I worked for stopped treating transgender people because we began to affirm. The contradictions were concerning and I left the field entirely. I’m a foster parent now and here we go again.

[@adama7752]

Why even try?

[@emex313]

Shout out to you. So may people care more about not having to find a new job then they do their own morals and values. People are so weak nowadays.

[@tomlevasseur8550]

@@emex313 thank you for the kind words. I am raising two little boys 3 and 6, one adopted and his brother within the year. I hope they will be the kind of person who one day, responds like you did.

[@SuperReznative]

When things get overwhelming,ask God for help..we prayed for our children/ adults

[@camp_daddy]

Yikes I hope you stop fostering children

[@wojciechsura]

Mrs Stockton, thank you for your coming forward!

[@lmatt2960]

Thanks to Sara and Jordan for sharing the truth. God bless both of you and your families 🙏

[@thetribalknowledgeshow1739]

This man is owned so much gratitude for speaking out in an effort to save children from being medically abused

[@billmclemore4276]

Hopefully He is watching over this man. Jordan Peterson is one of the last great thinkers. Thinkers are the absolute single possible threat to the globalist agenda , and ending western culture is the last major hurdle . With the WEF , Marxists, communists, and all with plans that are pure evil, all concentrated on 50 states in one country, and you are the major threat and standing in the middle of their road ... His life is an annoying obstacle to a handful of mediocre individuals (elites), and Jordan Petersons Life may be essential to the remaining 350 million left ,. With any chance of ending the globalist dreams

[@Idmoment]

In 1971 I was 18 yrs old working at a big hospital w a very kind male radiologist, married had 4 kids. He left on a long vacation and came back having transitioned to female. It was confusing as I didn’t know anything at all about transgender. He was still the same lovely person, now a she. Mostly she was accepted by the other staff members, though there was some talk behind her back. Anyway I learned that 8 years later she decided she’d made a mistake and transitioned back to male. What an ordeal it must have been for them.and this was 50 years ago.

[@nerd2544]

how did it work 50 years ago? I assume the medical advances weren't as developed back then so was it just social transition?

[@constancemccoy6931]

They can never go back to the way they were.

[@stevenwallacebaker9169]

the language around all this is so wrong and damaging even if it is well intended.He did not "transition to female",female is the biological term given to humans who have XX chromosomes,its is a scientific description.The man went on vacation and came back as a man who now identified as a woman,he was not a "she" and never could be.We must stop falling for the language trap.

[@oxygurl770]

@@constancemccoy6931 I agree but it depends on the extent they transitioned

[@josephsmitty-jo1oi]

did she/ he keep his "little sausage " in a jar in the freezer ?

[@pubwvj]

There is a nearly tangential issue that this raises: there are “experts” who ruin people’s lives and later go on to realize they were wron but the lives they ruined continue to be deeply negatively impacted. This points out how important it is to limit the power of people over others, not especially when their impact is negative and even more so when it is irreversible.

[@pubwvj]

Of course, even worse are those with this power who never understand or admit the damage they have done.

[@aanadyia4582]

Thank you Sarah. I commend your bravery and compassion for this. We need more like you and Dr. Peterson.

[@davidclaytonfreeman3306]

My prayer is that doctors, educators and therapists will be held fully accountable for any part they've played in doing this to kids esp but to any person going thru this.

[@blafgirl]

I have the luxury of being both in the medical profession and am now a therapist. I have been aware of the consequences of transitioning for a while. Transitioners would become medicalised for the rest of their lives. I was also aware that these body parts were non functional. They would also require constant hormonal injections. I am now a therapist and my voice has been silenced.😢

[@taramcgavan7654]

YES it’s a lifetime CASH COW! They become SEX LESS…..just horrific and sad

[@relentless319]

Don’t give up! Stick to what you know to be true. There are a lot of people out there who need your help!👊🏼💪🏼

[@IratePuffin]

They’re intentionally creating eunuchs for their own sick & perverted sexual fetishes. This goes way deeper than people think!

[@nutrition182]

it's mutilation and attention should be paid to what is causing all this. Is poor nutrition affecting genes and DNA?

[@Caroline-hx7wh]

Being silenced is a choice you make. Either you take a stand and suffer the consequences. That takes courage! Or you jump on social media and cry about being silenced.

[@joedougan8266]

I Thank Dr Peterson and all his brave guests , you are fighting the good fight . We have to do our part and educate ourselves and others around us . We can’t stay silent or future generations won’t have a chance .

[@dimitarkostadinov5665]

Thank you for this amazing discussion!