Reloading for the 22 Creedmoor with Zak May | On the Horizon Podcast Ep. 45

[@ReloadingQuest]

Thanks for having me on, I was vary honored to be asked. Thanks agin and had a blast.

[@davideckert6499]

Pretty impressive, Zak! You have earned my respect.

[@ReloadingQuest]

@@davideckert6499 thanks! 🙏

[@Portlycranium]

Thanks for such a great video. I love the 300 wsm also. But like you said there are so many great calibers out there. More thumbs up coming from truly everything reloading group.......6.5 killer sounds awesome. Can't wait.. 😊

[@ReloadingQuest]

@@Portlycraniumawesome! Thanks for watching and the comment!

[@Blong243]

I noticed your nervousness, but after a few minutes, you were calmed down and in your groove. Good job, you did well.

[@alabamareloader]

Zak is a really solid, down to earth dude…great podcast and I’m glad y’all had him on!

[@ReloadingQuest]

Thanks Wes for the kind words bud!

[@Kaspar_Outdoors]

Thanks for the comment! Zak is a great guy and it was a super fun chat!

[@RME1911]

Great Podcast, Thank you for Bringing a reputable Handloader, Shooter, Hunter and Author on the show. Really opened my eyes to the 22 Creedmor and its capabilities. Looking forward to the next video.

[@Kaspar_Outdoors]

Thanks for the comment! Zak was a great guest and is a better guy!

[@holdleftedgeandsendit9351]

enjoyed listening Zak is a good dude. awesome to see more data coming out

[@ReloadingQuest]

Thanks 🙏

[@Kaspar_Outdoors]

Happy to hear you enjoyed the episode - Zak was a great guest!

[@ReloadingQuest]

@@Kaspar_Outdoors going to be down that way in October! May have to swing by!

[@xphunter24]

One more thing on your 14" 22 Creed Pistol. If, you are determined to go with a LER pistol scope for shooting distance there are two current ones in production, and maybe a third. Crimson Trace Brushline Pro 2.5-8x28 BDC Pistol Scope. It has a great reticle for multiple holding points. Main Negative...It has very little internal MOA! The Weaver 2-6 pistol scope has the double the internal MOA, but I have only used it out to 500 yards on steel. An older Leupold or Burris (with Ballistic Plex) that had target turrets on them would be great to use, with the Leupold having more internal adjustment than any LER scope. Burris Signature Zee rings will allow you to add more MOA through the rings. I used one of those when I was shooting steel at 500 yards with a 357 Magnum revolver. Leupold discontinued making pistol scopes, and Burris LER's seems to be harder to find now, and they didn't have nay at SHOT. Suppressor and or a good brake with a rifle scope is so much better for what you are looking for...And you already have that

[@VictoriaOwsley]

Great podcast dude! I enjoyed it.

[@Kaspar_Outdoors]

Thanks for listening!

[@danielbecker4307]

Good stuff Zak! Great podcast. Gonna have to get me one of those hats!

[@ReloadingQuest]

Heck yeah bud! Thanks 🙏

[@xphunter24]

Alex Wheeler designed reamers are ever so slightly wider help take care of the clicking problem.

[@harveysexton7176]

Really cool talk so far Quest….. my only question is good copper bullets for hunting. Are they acceptable for under 100 yards with large accuracy? I’m familiar with Barnes and they’re awesome, however I’m assuming pure copper bullets.

[@ReloadingQuest]

Yeah copper bullets will work just fine in 100 yards. You need speed to make them work. So closer you are the better. Most copper bullets need at least 1800 fps to expand and not pencil through.

[@harveysexton7176]

What about penetration, like Charles Barkley says, it’s all about penetration!

[@davideckert6499]

I used 165 gr TTSX in a 300 RUM on an Oryx hunt in New Mexico in 2001. 50 yard shot and he was dead in 30 seconds. Was the first rifle ammo I ever reloaded.

[@ReloadingQuest]

@@davideckert6499 awesome! Great bullet! And awesome animal! That thing must have been cooking coming out of that barrel

[@davideckert6499]

@@ReloadingQuest I did mention that was my first rifle ammo to load. Was dangerously over pressure. 3200 fps.

[@seetownwv]

I went with CCI 450s just cause of availability. I seen about 20-30fps more with LRP. Im intrigued to try N560 I've been using it in my 7 PRC Vihtavuori is a little more wallet friendly when you find than the Varget im using now.

[@ReloadingQuest]

What speeds you getting using n560

[@seetownwv]

2935 was last 5 shot average I recorded. 18 inch barrel 162 eldm. Extreme spread was 38 sd 14. Was playing with seating depth an quit when Turkey season came in. It an N565 was giving me good ES an SD I was pushing it pretty good probably back down I was just wanting 2800+ with the 18 inch barrel.

[@jwagner47]

I’ve been loving the 62 eldvt in my 18” 22 creed inside 100 yards it makes a nasty hole but over 140 can’t hardly tell you hit em been great

[@ReloadingQuest]

Awesome! I am trying get my hands on some! To play with!

[@jwagner47]

@@ReloadingQuestthey won’t disappoint!!

[@ReloadingQuest]

@@jwagner47 awesome! Thanks for the info!

[@dstroud5800]

If your having issues with stability with 90’s in an 18 inch going to 24 probably won’t solve it. Derrick needs to send you a1/7.5 twist and you will be money. N560 was one of the first powders I tried in 2012 with the 22CM but the better option is the N565.

[@ReloadingQuest]

Yeah I know 1:8 have done it for 90gr ones but won’t know till I try. I assume it will be a 1:8 twist because that’s what is SAAMi approved. I am thinking making east where I can get some elevation and see what it does. The bullets coming apart in the barrel spinning the jacket off. So that might need to just back the speeds off.

[@robpederson281]

I built a 220 swift with a 1/8" Kreiger shooting imr 4350 nosler 69 c.c at 3511fps. Shoots sub moa at 800. Bucks wind right with 22 Creed

[@ReloadingQuest]

Awesome! that’s a awesome build! What barrel length?

[@bobpena1490]

Erick cortina manderal die for prc should work to resize at 200 line

[@jasonshanklin3807]

I was going to say the same thing. Have you tried that die yet ? I’m have the same issues with my 7prc brass. The Forster full length will not bring it back within spec at the 200 line

[@66branch]

I've ran a 243-6mm for the last 25 years coyote hunting. Ive shot 200-300 per year for the last 15 years. Just finished a 22cm build and so far i hate it. Lol Ive gotten 90% runners with 75eldm, 70vld, 75vld. I'm going to try 69tmk and 77tmk this weekend. If they dont work its going in the safe. Ive only had a couple bang flops and that was high shoulder. Front facing center punched always run 40-50yards. Its weird to me im 330k rpm running it hard. 🤷‍♂️

[@steelhorsetrucking7286]

I love love love tge 300 wsm

[@ReloadingQuest]

Heck yeah great round!

[@xphunter24]

Enjoyed it. In terms of using your 14 inch 22 Creed pistol out to 1000 yards. There are no real good long eye relief pistol scopes out there. Have I used pistol scopes out to 1000 yards and beyond with success? The answer is yes, but it is frustrating compared to using a good rifle scope. A good solid bottomed muzzle brake will make using a rifle, scope, a joy, but I believe you’re going to use a suppressor, and that will help reduce recoil, also it will add weight to the gun which will retard recoil as well If you were shooting prone on the dirt, with a Bipod, just the dirt itself will retard movement backwards, compared to be shooting it off a smooth bench. A Bipod and a small field bag underneath the pistol grip will allow you to shoot accurately as far as that gun is capable of. I’m glad you’re going to do another video on the 22 Creed pistol

[@Kaspar_Outdoors]

Great stuff here -- thanks for the comment!

[@xphunter24]

@@Kaspar_Outdoors , Thank you. Shooting and hunting with specialty pistols at distance, is what I enjoy most. Just last Friday I ran two of them to 1K and 1200 yards respectively. Cows had knocked down the 1350 and 1500 yard targets or I would have shot further.

[@steelhorsetrucking7286]

We need a 25 wsm

[@ReloadingQuest]

100% agree!

[@yotereapers]

Nice shirt.. lol.. thank u .. bad ass seeing it ..

[@ReloadingQuest]

Of course buddy! Got to rep my buddy’s!

[@robertheywood141]

Where is the roading data? Hornady won't give it out and says Horizon has exclusive rights to it but I don't see how anyone can have exclusive rights to reloading data. I absolutely love Barnes TSX and LRX. I've harvested deer, elk and bear with them and many times they just drop right there. I plan to get a 22cm and shoot the 62gr ELD-VT for coyotes and the Barnes 77gr LRX for big game.

[@robpederson281]

69 gr nosler custom competition. H4350. Sweet

[@ReloadingQuest]

Yeah that shoots lights out in my 22 Creedmoor as well!

[@jeffreywilson690]

22/250 AI 88 grain eldm @3200 with h1000 I'll keep my 22/250

[@seetownwv]

3500 with 75s 🤷

[@connerm4850]

“It’s going to go off and die somewhere” smh

[@EChunter]

Anyone that doesn't know orncant tell this guy is a clown and doesn't have a clue what he is talking about on the reloading/ballistics side of things , get your info elsewhere. No clue why they picked this guy to do an episode about loading .

[@VictoriaOwsley]

Great podcast dude! I enjoyed it.

[@ReloadingQuest]

Thanks! Was a lot of fun!