Remap by Empire Tuning! - Land Rover Freelander 2

[@TooMainToBeChannel]

This is excellent, I've been looking at getting my 2013 SD4 done at Empire, shall have to head on over when I can, thanks for this insight!

[@marksutcliffe770]

Hi Just be carful when adding more torque/power, the manual was designed for 150hp and pushing more power may be beyond the ability of the gearbox. I’ve been using a blue spark in line chip which has made a great improvement on power delivery and mpg. Loving your work

[@louiswilliamhicks]

@Scott, I hope it works out well and you have no issues. If the tuner is good and knows the engine, it should remain safe (for the engine) and reliable. I have the 3.2i6 NA engine, so it's a very different scenario for me, but it's fun seeing these kinds of improvements on a Freelander 2. All the best, and I will see you in the Freelander 2 Owners Group forum some time soon.

[@BeavisPits]

Thanks Louis. I tend to post in the FL2 off road group. I found FL2OG too hostile!

[@louiswilliamhicks]

@@BeavisPits Hi Scott, I have to agree that sometimes it does become a little argumentative and there can be a lot of self appointed moderators and "experts" in the FL2OG. I do also get mixed up between the two and did mean the FL2 off road group. Haha. Cheers for the video and I hope you and the family are well. All the best

[@RaysTrack]

I'm happy with the 36 mpg I get and the performance from mid to high end on a good run. However, I hate the painfully slow start from standing unless I 'gun' the throttle. Can a remap alter that?

[@BeavisPits]

Yes, it will increase low down torque too. Drop Empire Tuning a message and see what they can do for you.

[@jnjsse]

Hi, i am looking into buying a FL2, could anyone give me some links to tuning stuff? (coming from high performaance cars i need a bit of poke from my work runner!) i noticed the intake pipe has been modified on this one? Thanks

[@BeavisPits]

Hi Jonathan, have a watch of my other videos for more info on the intake duct and other mods I’ve done. I recommend a remap if you want more power. Also join one of the facebook groups. I’m in the FL2 off road group.

[@adrianbennett8264]

had mine remapped and now when I plant the accelerator the kick down bangs and lurches and I get black smoke could this be turbo pipe

[@BeavisPits]

Quite likely. Or blocked air filter.

[@jameswilliams5044]

where did you get the roof rack from? i know it will fit to bars but the big rack itself looks amazing

[@BeavisPits]

Ebay, video dropping tomorrow evening on my roof rack!

[@jameswilliams5044]

@@BeavisPits will keep an eye out for it

[@EdsonLopes]

Does anyone knows any company in Italy that does this job?

[@ioancatana6458]

Din ce cauza mi se infrineaza rotile pe spate la un freladar det 4 2001 in momentu cind dau in napoi?

[@lacipeter6934]

De kiki

[@jamiechristley2452]

Help needed Scott, just wanted some info if you have had this particular issue with your FL2....or know of this issue, as I watch all your posts and you are the Guru..... While driving my 2007 mod with 1/2 tank diesel the fuel guage just drops to empty and light come on? Stopped and restarted engine, drove 5miles and same thing again, have you any idea or heard of this before? I'm up in the Orkney island and certainly no dealership here. Plus I enjoy the tinkering as you do. Thanks Jamie

[@BeavisPits]

Yes, common fault. There are two sender units, one in each half on the saddle tank. The signals are averaged for the gauge. Sounds like one of yours is faulty. Check the wiring first as it gets wet and corrodes. If it is the sender then you access it below the rear seat.

[@jamiechristley2452]

@@BeavisPits Much appreciated Scott, always good to be part of a Landy community where we all help out. Keep up the great videos, helps loads of us! Cheers

[@MrZimmaframe]

Before I had the timing belt done on my FL2 2.2 tdci i could get 40mpg on the motorway cruising at 60-65mph. Now I stuggle to get 35mpg, it feels like the power comes in later so maybe retarded cam timing, not sure if there is a way to check this? But I know on the VAG cars which is what I am use to you can actually see intake and exhaust cam timing using software (vagcom/VCDS), and it can be finely tuned by making small adjustments to the cams, with surprising result in how the car feels and drives with better economy at lower rpm as power comes in sooner.

[@BeavisPits]

The cam sprockets are meant to be locked with a special tool while the belt is changed. If this wasn’t done then it is possible one or both have jumped a tooth. You’d have to remove the timing cover again and look for top dead centre markings to see if everything is in the correct position. There are lots of other things which could cause a drop in mpg. 35 is still good so maybe just live with it.

[@MrZimmaframe]

@@BeavisPits Yes I haven't done one on a FL2 but on my VW even after using locking pins it can be off slightly 1 degree or 2 and with belt stretch once it has setting in. I would be interested to see if it made a difference with the FL2's. Most people generally wouldn't be bothered. After advancing my intake timing and retarding exhaust timing, on a different vehicle it went from 52-54mpg to 55-61mpg. Interesting stuff fine cam tuning.

[@mikeyb1987no1]

What was the before/after dyno results? Would be interesting to see them.

[@BeavisPits]

No dyno, just real world testing. Estimated 20-30bhp increase.

[@empiretuning-landrovertuni6535]

We will be doing a video shortly on our channel of a Freelander 2 on the dyno with before and after results

[@rickx809]

My 2008 Fl2 can do 37 mph on a long run like that . I like mine just the way it is

[@charliecollier8694]

Sounds pretty slow tbf mine can do 120+ ;)

[@russ4972]

What’s the 30-70mph pull time now? And max boost?

[@BeavisPits]

Russell, the “after” 30 to 70 test is shown immediately after the “before” footage. Five seconds faster! I don’t know the boost has not fitted my boost gauge yet.

[@hardcoretam]

@@BeavisPits If you have a bluetooth OBD reader, and the Torque app there's features in there where you can add a digital boost gauge and others. I mount my phone to my dash when driving and have digital gauges on display for lots of things as i'm too lazy to fit real ones. It's worth double checking they will work on a Freelander 2 but they do for my 2006 Fabia VRS and my dads 2012 Aygo

[@BeavisPits]

@@hardcoretam yep, I have now got to grips with the Autel and have found the gauge feature. I’ll do another video on this soon.

[@tituspullo9210]

Hi Scott. Are you able to let us know the cost?

[@empiretuning-landrovertuni6535]

At present this is £250 +vat

[@tituspullo9210]

@@empiretuning-landrovertuni6535 Thanks ET 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@stevepritchard5999]

I've been thinking of remapping my sd4 for a few months so really good to see this! What's the likely cost though Scott?

[@empiretuning-landrovertuni6535]

We offer this for £250 +vat

[@BeavisPits]

Steve, do it! Well worth it. Like driving a different car! So much more grunt, and the improved mpg will pay for itself after a year or two.

[@BeavisPits]

@@gr-s2143 the mpg was reset and measured over 129miles to and from Empire Tuning. I got 31 and 34mpg respectively. The mpg on the journey there is shown in the data download clip. I’ve been driving around town for a week now and am getting 32mpg, previously 28 or less before the remap. The power is increased mid-range and top-end but also economy increased for slow speed driving. I’ve estimated that the remap will pay for itself within one year due to the fuel savings.

[@hardcoretam]

@@empiretuning-landrovertuni6535 That's a really good price for a tailored / custom remap.

[@empiretuning-landrovertuni6535]

@@hardcoretam Yes we try to be fair and competitive at the same time, we've been doing these vehicle's since they first came out and when asking what the customer wants we can normally interpret that rather way. If not we will redo the map again until you are happy.

[@mikeyb1987no1]

Was your car fully loaded when performing the 30-70 runs?

[@BeavisPits]

Yes, boot full of tools/gear and full tank of fuel

[@mikeyb1987no1]

@@BeavisPits did Empire do a check of the car prior to mapping it? The only reason I ask is that I did a 30-70 run in 4th gear and my time was 12.0 dead. It’s a MY13 so less power but more mid range torque. It’s significantly quicker than yours even when it’s mapped. I’m only highlighting this in case there is an underlying issue with yours.

[@BeavisPits]

@@mikeyb1987no1 I did a before and after test and it was 5 seconds faster. That is good enough for me and shows the remap achieved something. My car is old and tired, and has a lot of heavy gear in the boot, not to mention a roof rack, lightbar and offroad tyres. Other newer FL2s are going to be quicker, but I’m not competing against anyone else. It’s like parkrun…The only person you are racing against is yourself. I’m sure if I removed all the junk from my car and made it aerodynamic it would go much faster, but I’m happy with it as it is. That said, there is a slight whistle from one of my intercooler hoses. Not sure which one. When I find it and replace the hose it may add a couple of seconds, we shall see.

[@mikeyb1987no1]

@@BeavisPits I’m not sure the park run analogy is the most appropriate. Regardless, I hope a simple change of hose nets you a further improvement. I look forward to seeing your further developments with your turbo project 👍

[@empiretuning-landrovertuni6535]

@@mikeyb1987no1 Hello Mike these are valid comments however these are two different cars in two different locations so not ideal to compare. Your also comparing a later model to an earlier one which also run different control and emissions strategies as well as different ECU's if you have time your very welcome to pop down to me and we can perform the test with and without a remap if you like :) would be interesting to see as youve already timed it

[@simonquintrell8686]

All the extra bits that you have bolted onto the outside of your Freelander 2 is creating a lot of wind drag which is why you haven't seen such good mpg for a long time. I found a pair of roof bars cost me 3-4mpg. Unless the tuner has a dyno you don't really know what the true benefits of a remap are. Just my opinion.

[@BeavisPits]

Agree with you on the drag. I like my roof basket and lightbar though so they will stay attached and I accept it will cost more in fuel. Gareth tells me that Empire Tuning are getting a rolling road soon. Watch this space!

[@simonquintrell8686]

@@BeavisPits I have to admit that I was the same with my 04 Jeep Cherokee. Roof bars, basket etc regardless of the extra fuel costs. My Freelander 2 reg is yh59o** very similar to yours. But I've only had mine a couple of months as I cooked the Jeep's engine when the thermostat failed.

[@brotherjules]

Thanks for the video, Scott. Did you inform your insurance company, and if so, did the remap increase your premiums?

[@BeavisPits]

All modifications should be declared. I’m on a modified vehicle policy so no increase in premium.

[@georgeleelee6246]

I got mine remaped and a carbon clean for £200

[@dharmaraj5699]

Could u pls share the garage details

[@BeavisPits]

@dharmaraj5699 Empire Tuning in Essex, UK

[@Mrlandrover1]

Would be useful to tell us the gains 😂

[@BeavisPits]

Around 25% more power and torque. Would need to go on a rolling road before and after for accurate figures.

[@georgeyboyhowe1685]

i had mt discovery 2 done its a new car so much better