It seems that generally speaking, German and Japanese manufacturers address issues fairly quickly, Jeep (Dodge/Stellantis), not so much. This does not surprise me. Thanks for the video! 👍
@Wasabi91114 ай бұрын
Agree. Legacy American car companies tend to perform the worse overall. My dad has a Cadillac Lyriq. There are no crash test results so I’m presuming it won’t perform well based on GM past track record.
@megacap554 ай бұрын
but would be interesting if they does and offers the same level of protection to all markets where they export cars or just to the American market only,i would love to watch what if any best sold European brand put into the IIHS protocol test how would get or survive, Citroen, Peugeot, Skoda by example would be super interesting that the level of safety varies according with the car market where the brand is made
@crashcore_cc4 ай бұрын
I don’t have any data on this, but if I were to hazard a guess, the customers of European and Japanese/Korean brands probably value safety higher than customers of the US legacy brands.
@karlschauff79894 ай бұрын
@@crashcore_cc Like that time Toyota covered up the fact that a bushing in their accelerator pedal assemblies had a tendency to wear and become stuck in a depressed position, leading to unintended acceleration. And since Toyota was cheap and didn't have a brake override feature in their vehicles, the brakes would perform poorly due to lack of vacuum assist. The result was countless deaths. Toyota panicked and attempted to blame the floor mats for unintended acceleration and did their famous zip tie floor mat "recall". Later they were fined over a billion dollars by the US government for their intentional deception and coverup of deadly defects.
@crashcore_cc4 ай бұрын
Yes, I remember this. It was huge scandal and tarnished the Toyota brand for several years after.
@akj23874 ай бұрын
Surprised the Audi A4 wasn’t on this, 2012 vs 2017 is crazy
@lukeclifton43924 ай бұрын
Surprised you mention Audi… they used to be one of the safest on the road. Definitely ahead of BMW or MB in comparable models. In extraneous crash situation’s, Audi used to be unbeaten!… guess the VAG has destroyed that.
@randomuploads204 ай бұрын
@@lukeclifton4392late 90s and early 2000s audi was horrible
@desertmodern76384 ай бұрын
I have noticed some vehicles smoothly glancing off the area ahead of the door and some coming to a full stop instead but still doing well in the test. Since in real life we're not hitting that exact barrier at that exact angle, I have to think that the cars which do well without glancing gently off the barrier have put their structure through a more severe test - particularly reassuring given the many real-world frontal collision possibilities.
@akj23874 ай бұрын
That’s what I was thinking, feels like the cars that stop, yet still maintain the structural integrity will be safer in a real life situation. If someone crashes into you at an oblique angle, you probably won’t be able to just glide off like the cars in this video do, just have to take the impact.
@crashcore_cc4 ай бұрын
It’s a trade off of where to put the mass. Vehicles that glance off tend to have more structural elements near the front of the car so that they are engaged early. Whereas, vehicles that stop more abruptly but still do well have strong structural elements around occupants. Some manufacturers do both and these cars are probably the best equipped to handle a wide variety of real life scenarios.
@BillySwift.4 ай бұрын
So the vehicles that do deflect off of the crash structure are actually more safer for you as the frame of the vehicle is deflecting the stopping force instead of experiencing an incredible amount of force while coming to a complete stop.
@crashcore_cc4 ай бұрын
Generally speaking, yes. The occupants typically experience lower crash forces with this design.
@AquaVivaFit4 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! Very helpful!!
@crashcore_cc4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@mamoun_jdm4 ай бұрын
Very detailed video.
@crashcore_cc4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@mamoun_jdm4 ай бұрын
@@crashcore_cc No problem!
@zacstv13692 ай бұрын
This video was very learnful. My mum has a 2015 Toyota rav 4. My mum says it was really good. She didn’t say anything about safety.
@niratsirackod14 ай бұрын
The 2017 Suzuki Vitara had poor ratings on rollover test but they solved that issue by making the roof stronger and moving the engine slightly lower to lower the center of gravity. Then by the year of 2019 they got a good rating.
@stephenbrown59213 ай бұрын
Kia Forte 2014 to 2015 they go from alloy to steel wheels, which reduces stress on the structure massively, you should have tested like for like. Back in the early 2000s Holden discovered the difference between big alloys and small steel wheels, would have thought you people would have been onto it by now.
@petergilbert1444 ай бұрын
Failed passenger small overlap test with quick fix proves the manufacturers that really don't give a damn about safety. They're too cheap to make the car safe, they just build it to pass today's test, then deal with the other side only when they look bad tomorrow.
@crashcore_cc4 ай бұрын
It's a good indicator for which brands to avoid!
@iPodHL22 ай бұрын
Fun fact : The 2017 540i was technically the same one Adrian Lund got into a crash with
@minipandora224 ай бұрын
Great video quality 🎞️
@crashcore_cc4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@iPodHL24 ай бұрын
I wonder why the 2012 Camry isn’t on here considering that Toyota changed the structure for 2014.5 models.
@0w3nn3 ай бұрын
why the heck do you expect them to include every car
@ian06084 ай бұрын
I’d like to see one for midsize suvs. Specifically the explorer and similar vehicles.
@DrEvilTag4 ай бұрын
Small overlap test is an extreme situation, I drive an 07 Toyota Camry which basically is the same structure as an ES 350 of those years, they tested an ES 350 in the small overlap test and it did absolutely horrible, but performed extremely well in the moderate overlap test , I’m not worried since the chances of a small overlap crash are only 10% vs 90% more chances of a moderate overlap crash
@megacap554 ай бұрын
But extreme situation that can happens otherwise the iihs would just skip that test
@craigthepony62594 ай бұрын
i know it will be challenging for manufactures but shouldn't they try focusing on higher speed crashes too instead of just say 35-40mph?
@crashcore_cc4 ай бұрын
It looks like the IIHS' strategy will be to evaluate accident avoidance tech at higher speeds (they just increased their test speed of AEB systems to 43 mph). These systems could get better and better at reducing vehicle speed right before a collision to survivable levels.
@craigthepony62594 ай бұрын
@@crashcore_cc ahh, makes sense
@themobkiller67994 ай бұрын
Video suggestion: Cars who’s safety got worse over time (example: Nissan Quest 3rd gen to 4th gen) Edit: i just realized that the 3rd and 4th gen were on different tests, mb. Disregard that example
@crashcore_cc3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll see if there are enough examples of this to fill a video.
@gabesmath1053 ай бұрын
no, the 3rd gen 04-10 did not get small overlapped, and would be just as bad as the 4th gen
@themobkiller67993 ай бұрын
@@gabesmath105 right, i forgot that mb
@themobkiller67993 ай бұрын
@@crashcore_cc i realized they were on different tests so the quest doesnt matter
@itsmevxrto3 ай бұрын
@@crashcore_cc The first gen (1993-1998) and the second gen (1999-2002) is a better example. These 2 models were tested in the moderate overlap test, where the first gen Quest got a marginal rating, and the second gen a poor rating.
@jpscsa4 ай бұрын
Me in in my 90s car : 💀
@HunterPhillips166Ай бұрын
2018 not 2021
@林皇-z5vАй бұрын
Jeep grand cherokee 2014 in the world of the of the and it was the most beautiful day of the day and I was so happy to see 👁️👄👁️
@MuradAsifishere674 ай бұрын
The new Hyundai Santa Fe earned a Marginal in the updated moderate overlap test
@crashcore_cc4 ай бұрын
Another disappointing performance in a redesigned product! It might be a couple more years until we start seeing new products that start consistently doing well.
@coryjohnson35162 күн бұрын
My comment disappeared. What happened? Oh never mind. I did it on One video I meant to do it I thought it was going on all the videos sorry
@megacap554 ай бұрын
too bad that the euroncap already don't want to do the small overlap test
@djclipbasslower25194 ай бұрын
Wow! Never thought Mercedes would do badly
@crashcore_cc4 ай бұрын
I remember how shocking it was to see these results when they first came out. The introduction of the small overlap test was a sobering moment for the safety perception of many brands!
@lorenschwiderski3 ай бұрын
HR-V vs. CrossTrek = Subaru in real world safety. While a crash test is interesting and one can learn something from it, I suppose, how much insurance companies had to pay-out for injuries, and the data from death rates in cars, is really telling. Subaru does well, time after time. Look up the Korean makes and then compare it to test scores. I live in the real world. The Hyundai Santa Fe might be one of the few from Korea with both test scores which are good and the records of real-world data.
@crashcore_cc3 ай бұрын
I think both types of data can be useful. The difficulty with interpreting real-world crash data is that it is largely driven by the psychological profiles of the drivers. The average Subaru owner may drive more cautiously than drivers from other brands.
@lorenschwiderski3 ай бұрын
@@crashcore_cc Could be to some extent that some makes and models attract crazy drivers, like Dodge with Hemi's. Korean cars range from mediocre to terrible, over the years in Death Rates and Injury Claims of Insurers.
@extralock10454 ай бұрын
My car needs some big safety improvements. Sure, it's better than a lot of older cars, like 2010 and older. But still isn't great, it's a 2024 Mitsubishi Mirage.
@djclipbasslower25194 ай бұрын
First to comment! Love your channel keep up the great work
@crashcore_cc4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@georgegeorgakopoulos59563 ай бұрын
No fire, everything is OK
@L0LrevneD4 ай бұрын
But “thEy dOn’T mAkE tHem lIke theY uSeD tO”
@JoseChavez-kq2cz4 ай бұрын
What about on the side right side. I hear GM was caught cheating 💀👀
@crashcore_cc4 ай бұрын
I made a recent video that talks about this specific case: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJ63qomHhddnlck
@Pat-Van-Canada3 ай бұрын
this is nonsense. THey are just reworking things to pass the tests. Better to look at deaths on the road and even then you must compensate for demographics
@ywtv62 ай бұрын
Removing what? Do tell me.
@Pat-Van-Canada2 ай бұрын
@@ywtv6 not removing, strengthening one side of the car to pass etc
@Superfastjellyfish6692 ай бұрын
You do know the test gets more difficult every couple of years right? 😂
@nandan4.62 ай бұрын
One side impact is critical to determine overall structural safety.
@Pat-Van-Canada2 ай бұрын
@@nandan4.6 but they are faking it to pass, when the passenger's side is tested, the results are horrible. Also IIHS doesn't test for rear seat whiplash so the rear seats are more dangerous than the front a lot of the time
@CarMaster_Pro_Driver4 ай бұрын
Under 1 hour team 👇
@mamoun_jdm4 ай бұрын
Yes
@WarningSign10004 ай бұрын
New cars are dumb investments
@crashcore_cc4 ай бұрын
No doubt it’s a big expense. However, when someone gets to a certain level of financial means, it’s arguably reckless for them not to put their family in a modern, safe vehicle. All the money in the world can’t bring back a loved one.
@Drifty_Car4 ай бұрын
What about mediums cars?
@WarningSign10004 ай бұрын
@@Drifty_Car I don't know what the sweet spot is in terms of depreciation but I sold my '22 and got a 2012, I know I took a big hit on selling my 2 year old car but I got my priorities somewhere else now. I would like to buy my own home one day and I can't justify losing like 30k in a few years time, the 12 year old car is a little less efficiënt and maybe a tad less reliable but will get you from A to B as well
@Drifty_Car2 ай бұрын
@@WarningSign1000 what car should I get it's my chance in future bro
@WarningSign10002 ай бұрын
@@Drifty_Car Hard to say bro, it depends on your lifestyle, where you live and what you want to do with your car. I had to use my car to do lots of driving, so I bought a small 2 year old car that was reliable and efficient. I moved to another home now, I don’t need my car that often anymore. I sold the “new” car and lost lots of money, I now bought an older car that doesn’t depreciate anymore. It is less efficient but that doesn’t matter too much anymore for me because I do not need to drive that often anymore. A new car would continue to depreciate while sitting in the driveway.