Is the Tanakh Fully "Pro-Torah"? David's Observance

[@napashgabar4041]

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[@fearmonger2208]

Thanks for your thought provoking material. I've thought about some of the things you brought up before, and I can just chalk it up to, I'll probably never truly know. 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@TorahCentric]

Thanks. If we accept that it looks fishy, at the very least, then that will help us to keep our perspective for the commands of the Torah. Otherwise we are compelled to distort the commands to defend these later figures.

[@fearmonger2208]

@@TorahCentric Yep I agree. If you are going to do other vids on fishy stuff that's a bit complicated, do one on Judah in Genesis 38. That whole thing is questionable also. Even though there's several things in the scriptures I don't quite understand I try not to use the questionable instances as examples for myself and my walk, trying to be obedient. Shalom brother

[@TorahCentric]

Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, that makes sense about not relying on questionable instances. The Law has to define what the Law is because it is clear that disobedience was commonplace.

[@arashjamaleddin6959]

GOOD POINT

[@AbrahamsBridges]

Hey Jacob! This has some really good points. Pertaining to David and the priesthood, I have heard that “priest” can be another word for “great leader.” I’ve heard that there were other priests besides Levitical priests, such as priests of Baal. But you’ve got a great point about the ephod. Do you have a video about Solomon?

[@shaundevoy9307]

Yeah I am sorry the ephod proves nothing, what is an ephod? Is it possible the ephod was a general kind of clothing? Did he go before an alter?

[@TorahCentric]

Thanks. I don't see any evidence that kohanim refers to leaders in general. Of course, there are other kohanim other than the commanded priests of Aaron, since it is a general word for priest (and it is present in other Semitic languages with the same meaning). So there were other priests other than the line of Aaron, like priests for other elohim like you mentioned. And no, no video on Solomon, nor any video planned for him for now.

[@TorahCentric]

Shaun, I can understand your hesitation. If the Torah is important, would it not also be important to consider whether it was truly respected in these later works? We might lead ourselves into a lot of trouble otherwise. Is your question on the altar a genuine one? Would you change your mind about defending these actions of these people if he did go before an altar to offer offerings?

[@AbrahamsBridges]

@@TorahCentric thank you!

[@AbrahamsBridges]

@@shaundevoy9307 The “ephod” is the garment of the high priest, who was only from the lineage of Aaron. David wasn’t from the lineage of Aaron.

[@GarmentofEsau]

Do you think the 5 books of the Torah were written by Moses?

[@AbrahamsBridges]

Are you familiar with “The Moses Scroll” by Ross Nichols?

[@GarmentofEsau]

@@AbrahamsBridges yes I am.

[@TorahCentric]

I think the books of the Law (Exodus through Deuteronomy) are some form or a derivative of the text. I don't think they are exactly the same as the original.

[@GarmentofEsau]

@@TorahCentric what is your interpretation of this passage? 1 Samuel 10:25 Then Samuel explained to the people the behavior of royalty, and wrote it in a book and laid it up before the LORD. And Samuel sent all the people away, every man to his house.

[@TorahCentric]

It's interesting, but it would just be speculation for me to say. It seems likely to me that if the Torah were fully rewritten later, or if it were written as a completely new document later, there are a lot of things that would have been made different. Emphasis on the Tent of Meeting, priesthood of Aaron, and the rules regarding the holy articles and sacrifices went out the window starting with the leaders in the books of Samuel (or earlier). So there is a major disconnect between the system in the Torah and what was done by all later figures.

[@GemstoneActual]

On David's Teraphim: Hosea 3:4 implies that Teraphim are (can be) a good thing. I think the word, itself, alludes to some form(s) of memorization technique(s).

[@TorahCentric]

Hosea 3:4 also refers to a matsebah along with the teraphim, and raising a matsebah is forbidden in Leviticus 26:1. What is the evidence to support that it has something to do with memorization? How does that fit with David's wife using them to fake a body?

[@shaundevoy9307]

I am sorry I cannot agree, first off it calls the man "Uriah the Hittite" just like "Ruth the Moabites" was address. It could easily be Uriah was grafted in just like Ruth. Another thing the shewbread incident according to the Torah you are allowed to break a command in order to protect your life we see this with Avraham and Rahab who was in lineage of the messiah I might add.

[@TorahCentric]

Hittites are not allowed to be in covenant with Israel nor intermarry with them. Deuteronomy 7:1-4. You may also be interested in Deuteronomy 23:3/4. Later works can influence the reading of the Torah.

[@shaundevoy9307]

@@TorahCentric as were Moabites see Nehemiah-13, also deuteronomy-23. So once it all depends on how you read it. Is it talking about lineage, even though lineage isn't listed? Or is it talking about covenant? Is it possible that when you take on the Torah you cease being a Hittite?

[@TorahCentric]

Regarding Moabites, this is why I referenced the Deuteronomy passage above. Can you clarify how it would depend on how you read it? Specifically the Deuteronomy verse about the Moabites. Are you reading the "assembly of YHWH" as being something other than Torah observant?

[@InescapableRealityOfficial]

Maybe a lot of Torah laws just did not exist yet and were later redactions like the critical scholars say.