RemoteID is inevitable in the USA...but we can be the avengers! Moving forward from the RID ruling

[@xjet]

Great video, thanks for making it. I think the best analogy for RID is the GPS ankle-bracelet that people on home-detention have to wear. Fortunately, only those who are accused of a serious crime or convicted and detained at a fixed residence have to wear these bracelets. So what we have with RID is the assumption of guilt -- the presumption that we are all going to do something evil, nefarious and illegal -- therefore we must be tracked. The basic tenet of justice is the right to be presumed innocent. RID violates that basic tenet -- in the same way that making *everyone* in our free society wear a GPS ankle bracelet on the assumption that they are going to commit a crime.

[@tanker7757]

Bruce appreciate your dedication to this stuff I see you in every comment section trying to get the message out there

[@moidfpv]

Bruce is right, it's like an ankle monitor for law abiding citizens! Nah, I'm good. But now I regret falling for the $5 drone registration. Won't be renewing that either.

[@NahBahDee]

Bruce my 11 year old wants to meet you. Proverbs 23:9. ‘don’t waste your wisdom on fools for they will despise the wisest advice. Im definitely not a freaking bot. Bots don’t know scripture. Peace Mr. Bruce.

[@GenericEquivalent]

It's dumb because anyone doing bad things with their drone isn't going to register just like bank robbers don't register their firearms

[@johnford9477]

spot on my friend

[@MCsCreations]

Or use their own cars.

[@xORLOCKx]

Thats how regulations work usually.. they only punish good people. They never stop crime. Tale as old as time

[@devilcfpv2621]

Thats not true. You can be private and not want anything to do with the government period. Doesnt mean that you are a bad person its a drone not a gun. A drone isnt going to shoot some one. Freestyle pilots are harmless racers are harmless. Its crazy that so many people agree with the government god they are not your friends they are our enemy. The poison your food, mandate shots i mean come on this sets pilots up for complete failure. Fpv pilots should not have period. We dont need it no thank you.

[@stevefpv]

Well let’s not get too broad there’s some dumb ass robbers

[@gmivisualsjason3729]

Remote ID not necessary! Just two rules...... Join Xjets push back It aint over yet Well done keep raising awareness!

[@SeaSide420]

if a government introduces a compulsory action on its citizens that results in the citizens being forced to pay money or relinquish personal rights, that action should be thoroughly investigated for any links to corruption or benefit to anyone other than its citizens.

[@jeffdughman9741]

This whole thing is being done because they are setting up shop and want to own the air space so the little guys cant make money doing it, they are holding us back so they can get a jump on the market and stay ahead of us like greedy assholes. not holding me back is all im saying..

[@MysticalDragon73]

what personal rights are being relinquished?

[@mfrfpv9079]

@@MysticalDragon73 privacy safety ability to fly free on private or public property

[@MysticalDragon73]

@@mfrfpv9079 lols you have alot to learn about "rights" being able to fly free on public property isnt a "right"

[@mfrfpv9079]

@MysticalDragon73 it is in China 🇨🇳 more free than we are. Regulation isn't freedom

[@HamptonFPV]

Calling and overwhelming them is quite brilliant really.

[@spartan3299]

If the clogging causes an incident, or is portrayed as causing it, it may not be the best way to advance our freedoms.

[@HamptonFPV]

@@spartan3299 That is a great point as well.

[@stevefpv]

I agree with you I feel like it will make us look a bit unhinged as many would be lol

[@slowvoltage]

This so much😹

[@stevefpv]

@@slowvoltage some would say too much haha #less

[@suzysheer66]

Calling them for every little occurrence or interaction related to remote ID is a great idea.

[@GingerMonkeyFPV]

Fortunately I live in the middle of nowhere, the police don’t show up during ACTIVE burglaries and release car thieves caught in the act. If they even answer the phone, no one is showing up when Karen calls.

[@AtariModman]

Solidarity + Malicious Compliance

[@danpenry8899]

The porch Pirates will be out there tracking Amazon delivery drones on a app

[@MysticalDragon73]

My concern is that it shows the operators location to anyone with the app. This is absurd. I am considering serving my FSDO legal papers stating they will be held liable should I be injured by someone locating me via the app. The ONLY ones with access to this should be the FAA and MAYBE law enforcement.

[@followthewhiterabbit7504]

I recall seeing a vid, explaining a software hack, that makes the module invisible to the 'phone app, while still visible to FAA and Police.

[@billflynn6903]

As Bruce said - get this information out. Every semi-official representative of model aircraft flying Bent OVER and Took IT. My HOBBY should Not be Regulated by the Government. Government should SHOW CAUSE for this action. NEVER ONCE has this been an issue. Even Australia realized this was not an issue.

[@frnkguard1]

I just hope no one comes looking for me and finds me when i have my goggles on and totally blind and if I take them off I can’t see where I’m flying and result in a crash

[@MysticalDragon73]

you are a fool and in violation of many regs if you are flying like that with no spotter.

[@hansaKg]

Bruce sent me here, thanks!

[@TheCivildecay]

4:12 I'm pretty impressed by that baseball game public to spot the drone and make a judgement on if the quad is heavier than 250gram!

[@burdfamfpv]

I watched this and boy I'm glad I did as a weekend warrior flyer I just want to flip and roll without a Karen getting jealous or being arrogant and make cool videos doin it.ya know like the old days! When it was fun,keep those props spinning my fellow pilots!🤙

[@grepboy]

Fantastic video brother. Making it cost the FAA money and time is exactly the best way to get this thing modified. It's great to see your channel really flourishing.

[@mfrfpv9079]

Malicious obedience is awesome 👌 👏

[@TK-fp5fp]

The best thing I've heard so far is RID is Pokémon Go for Karen's, the possibility for abuse is astounding! Thank you for adding you voice to this cause. Make that call is a great idea.

[@followthewhiterabbit7504]

Remember, the first person to call the police, wins. Your 'spotter' is best employed, watching for the approach of a "Karen" and getting straight on the 'phone to report harrassment.

[@edrone_]

Glad to hear and see your video brother! Mine drops Monday and your absolutely right we need to stick together and definitely now more than ever! The FAA will be counting on our own community to turn in each other so let's not give them ammunition unless it's something extremely dangerous or that needs reporting! Great idea about calling the FAA. Do you have a number in mind that would be best for us to call so that we can be the most efficient with these aggravating calls?

[@felixruiz2838]

The FAA doesn't make the AIR !!

[@Vousie]

@@felixruiz2838 Well, they do think they regulate the AIR... "Down the the blade of grass" I think was their wording...

[@inakidb]

I am a proud Founder contributor of FPV freedom coalition and Beacon thick slab 🎉. Hope your recommendation helps. but I think FAA or other federal organizations will install an automatic operator and will keep us in an infinite loop to report. hope works and we can have our hobby back.

[@testpilotian3188]

What you’re describing is called “Malicious Compliance”, this definitely works in some cases, if it will works in this one is another matter. You are a 100% right on the infighting too, this did a lot of damage when it came to UK regulations, the fixed wing lot stuck their thumbs in the air and refused to help, saying they were not drones but model aeroplanes so would not be subject to the incoming regulations, we’ll more fool them because when the regulations came in, they applied to them as much as it did everybody else. The irony is now, 5 years down the line, those same (mostly) fixed wing organisations are the ones now begging the drone and FPV organisations for help as their membership die off and don’t get replaced by the younger generations as much as they did previously.

[@followthewhiterabbit7504]

Serves them right! My MAC threw me (and several other members in good standing) under the bus during c o v i d for non-compliance with the 'mandates'. As far as I'm concerned, the official organisations representing the interests of modellers, don't. Modellers need to stick together, but that doesn't mean supporting peak bodies that represent the interests of government before those of their members.

[@Trevor2497]

I completely agree with the points about the categories which need to be regulated. Also reporting everything to the FAA to give them more work is genius. Hopefully they give up on these ridiculous regulations.

[@stevefpv4669]

Same thing's happening in Europe, in all cases, united we stand !

[@MadDragon75]

By the time they see me... I'm gone. They won't have time to locate my quad... I don't stay in the same spot for more than one pack.

[@MadDragon75]

I paid for a rec license. This wasn't a thing when I obtained it, I'm going by the regulations that applied to me then. I'd rather send it and walk away from the hobby.

[@sunsetpark_fpv]

OMG I love the idea of reporting ourselves! #WEARTHEMOUT has got to be the best idea in this situation!!

[@ianwalton284]

All my big quads are for decoration purposes only. I don't fly them anymore.

[@Richard-C]

thanks for supporting xjet 👍

[@1969jfp]

Howdy. Just throwing this out there. I'll try to look the regulation up on it. If you feel in danger from using it. You legally don't have to turn it on. That's from the regulations. Anything that in dangers the safety of the flight is to be avoided.

[@jbengineering2681]

Everyone in America needs to put a stop to this tyranny asap from these tyrant thugs

[@loukasdrones3038]

Love the idea of flooding FAA switchboard with phone calls

[@apachesmokewoundedsniper]

Great video bro, yeah we need to stand together for sure, don’t loose energy by fighting each other, put your energy in to our community and fight for the community so we can all keep flying. Stay safe everyone

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Thank you man!! Absolutely, we can't be fighting each other while we figure this thing out or else we all lose the ability to focus on what is in front of us and how we deal with it.

[@FrankyFingersfpv]

Sounds like a great idea! Great video brother!

[@bladesfpv4179]

Great way to look at this situation. They need to be held accountable for excluding the people in this hobby.

[@peteengard9966]

As a hobby pilot, I will not comply. Besides unconstitutional, the government can not mandate a piece of equipment for an already functioning vehicle if it was built without it.

[@Alasdair-Morrison]

Glad you have www.youtube.com/@xjet on your side, fighting every step of the way

[@SavagerobFPV]

Great idea there is nothing more the government hate is to have to do more work 😉

[@Siamect]

Aviation in USA will suffer as long as FAA exist. Close it down and throw away the key.

[@tonypena1]

That’s some straight grease

[@MCsCreations]

Well... Bank robberies don't use their wife's car, with her license plate. The car is probably robbed and belongs to another person. So... Anyone wanting to do bad stuff stuff with a drone... Well, let's say they won't follow the rules. So... It's just stupid. No one were ever killed by a drone or rc airplane... I know about zero cases of damage or anything. It makes no sense at all... It's true, I'm not even from the US, but I wouldn't follow this. Let this legislation die. In piece. Anyway, thanks, dude! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

It is absolutely an over regulation given the body of evidence to support it...which means there are absolutely also motivations outside of data which I doubt we will ever be fully aware of. Whatever those motivations are, we as a community can't change them unfortunately...but, as long as we stick together and look forward at how we are going to handle this we have a chance!

[@tiwidub8809]

For safety purposes, I will NOT comply !!!

[@wearemany73]

The fight against RID is inevitable.

[@bulufish8208]

Hey fly everyday and DON'T FLY IN NO FLY ZONES.......................................

[@spartan3299]

What will do the most to prevent aircraft crashes and the actual risks to the lives of aviators and even those on the ground? Just like the person who taught me to fly models, Fly 3 mistakes high. Altitude provides time for clearer evaluation of a situation, time for correction if possible, and time to act so as to live. FAA, you know the statistics! First, act now to modify training, beginning in initial ground and flight certifications according to accident statistics. Second, Increase in altitude the navigable airspace to 1000-1500 feet so as to give crew time to decide what to do next, to glide, to survive! And with that, give us back our airspace which is our living space and our playing space...yeah even playing with and teaching the next generation about the safer and diverse fields of aviation. Even if it is by using these extremely safe if not pesky model aircraft. Remote ID will not provide all these benefits. Current and future Aviation professionals will!

[@james_860]

Thanks for your opinion…as a small flying community we must stand Tall.

[@JosueSerrano7]

I'm going to fly every day as always.

[@MountaineerFPV]

Love RDQ, thank you. …..shall not comply. This infringes upon my right to privacy and puts my safety and security at risk as a hobbyist. I shall not comply. Come and take it

[@jaapjoo2372]

Thanks for taking the effort making this video 💪

[@Halfrightfox]

Making it the FAA's problem is the 60's equivalent of mass non-compliance

[@Cuisinenomade1]

Here in europe all drones must be registered but don't know anything about app giving away position or private data. Scary authoritative system that of the US. Thanks for the videos

[@justinnadeau]

Dude!!! This video is extremely well put together. Thanks for sharing! I agree, no matter the choice the FPV pilot does….we should come together. 🙌 Great idea with overwhelming the FAA too!

[@crystalclearwindowcleaning3458]

There are only a couple of modules available. They are big, heavy, and very expensive. The FAA is being unreasonable with this rule.

[@gogglesfpv7986]

exactly this is a really good way about it.

[@baggszilla]

Thank you so much for this Bacon! We really need this hobby around for the sake of American future technologies! I hope the FAA regulates this loosely and leaves us FPV Hobbiests alone! Only go after that idiot who wants to fly their drone over a professional game stadium or somewhere alone those lines!

[@chestergt7765]

I freaking love you man. You explain stuff so well

[@FlyZoneFpv]

My Dawg ! Yes thanks for putting out the video bro. Let’s goo

[@spock81]

Really good thoughts! I really appreciate your emphasis on unity within the community and 100% agree! We cannot be throwing the "other guys" under the bus in hope of getting a better deal for ourselves. We need to stick together. I also like your suggestion of "malicious compliance" 😂 The FAA made this mess and they'll need to deal with it one way or another.

[@1stsquadrone810]

Rid RID #RidRID

[@kingkieck]

Best and most reasonable video on the topic so far. Other than Xjet's of course lol.

[@Industry-insider]

It doesn’t matter to me if they pass that shit because I already ain’t getting mine registered

[@MurdersFPV]

Great work, Curtis. Thank you for this. 🖤

[@grahamsrcmodels9662]

Great advice from 10:30! Well argued points throughout IMHO. Thanks you, sir.

[@grahamsrcmodels9662]

Nuisance compliance, brilliant!

[@mouseofmadness]

My current plan is to keep it under 250g until we see how they're actually going to handle things. Right now it's vague, the scenarios they propose in their weird example video are nonsensical to the point I thought it was a parody for a while, and there's so many unknowns that I can't see this as being anything other than a regulatory dumpster fire for the first 6 months. Though, thanks to their bizarre messaging, I'll happily call to report everyone that tries to distract me from safely piloting because they've been taught I'm not "legitimate" if I don't show up on the karen app.

[@mercurymoyes4018]

Your plan is good flood em with work

[@gchSeattle]

Thanks Bacon Ninja!

[@JustKeepLivingFPV]

Me telling my girl to not answer the door when I get home.

[@spartan3299]

Keep flying safely Gents. Make sure we continue to be able to boast of our Best in aviation safety record. If the FAA, Municipal authorities, Karen, or the FBI and the like question you...cordially invite them to experience what we are doing, Ken Heron style public relations. Thank you Ken! Some of you might be able to demonstrate the hobby for police recruits, public officials, local schools and colleges and the curious general public. Recently a fine member of our club was teaching some of his Nasa folks how to fly via Buddy box and beyond, putting his foamy at minimal risk and doing a great job of it. I saw he was without a battery checker and left one with him. one fella was in an Air Force jump suit and so I handed him my ride along, analog at the time, goggles and explained that I was trying to learn to inverted yaw spin which I did a poor job of demonstrating yet produced a loud "yeah!!" from Him who I learned after was an F16 driver.

[@navigator2011]

Thanks for putting your take on all this out there!!!

[@andrewmedia3568]

Nice, good stuff man. 🤘

[@SamuelMoore-pi1ms]

Absolutely insane shit going on in the states man

[@Markevans36301]

For the AL Gore rhythm!

[@drones7838]

I signed for the raffle on the drone. Hope I win!

[@Mupshot]

when stupid people do stupid things with drones, it costs us all. but it gets re-goddamned-diculous for the size most of us fly, and for Sub250 to also include an RID module that could be 25-40% of the weight. that and whoops with RID?

[@YorkyPoo_UAV]

Call them every time I fly my Avata... "Oh no my USB came out mid flight again"

[@stevenwebb3007]

Well put for cases that actually should have remote ID.

[@ericw.6107]

Excellent video, great analogy. Keep up the good work!

[@moidfpv]

Wait, so in the FAA movie the FBI was able to track down the evil doer who WASN'T using RID?? Doesn't that prove we don't need it after all?

[@showdownz]

An excellent video... not only covering the topic but providing some actual action points. I should have expected no less. You rock my ninja :)

[@IceFaceFPV]

IF YOU RUN UPON ME WITH MY GOGGLES ON , PLEASE BE READY FOR MY PTSD TO KICK IN ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN......JUST SAYING

[@walkman1269]

You're right brother!!

[@jimp.7286]

Ask yourself; "why now"? And ask if this is a test bed for remote id use elsewhere. The gov has been wanting that for a long time. Ask if this is really about safety, (because gov loves to use that excuse for most everything),. Safety for who? Who's getting hurt? Many of us who grew up flying model rc plans back in the 70's find much of this either strange or gov overreach. That maybe,...someone doesn't want the public having this ability going into the future. They want the ability to switch it off when the time comes. I do know - drone delivery and e short-range air transport from major city hubs is getting close. Could be it be that lobbyists made this happen? Amazon? Others? Those who want the rights to most all airspace around urban areas up to a few hundred feet - to be their domain in the future? Why now? Just pondering.

[@nwbigfootman]

Fight for no remote ID on hobby aircraft under 1 kg.

[@xORLOCKx]

Great video and great message. Always support you and it's opinions you are spreading like this that confirms that decision to support you. Personally, I'm just gonna post old footage from before the date RID is required 😉 I think constantly reporting them and being involved is important. Posting videos on the subject trying to get them to go viral is important too. Literally everything we are doing we need to keep doing it. Most important thing in this video though. Stop fighting with each other.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Keep on finding those SD cards in the parking lot which "happen" to have some pretty awesome drone footage on them!! Always appreciate you bro!

[@rmgf1005]

Why does the general public have to have access to this informatio? It should be kept to law enforcement only.

[@Quadwrex]

It's us against them, not you against me

[@GingerMonkeyFPV]

No compliance.

[@SteadyeddieFPV]

Excellent video, I like your well rounded take on things and ideas. I think a simple google form to document negative encounters while flying might be a good way to collect data to push our concerns, I’m gonna suggest something like that to the FPVFC. Still waiting on a sit down with my local representatives, but I do potentially have something in the works. Just because the actions we have taken have not had the desired result doesn’t mean that we should give up trying.

[@Bucketnate]

11:56 Dude youre PiC if the module fails inflight you should bring it down and troubleshoot it.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

The only issue there is that you most likely won't ever know if the module fails while in flight since you won't get any feedback in goggles or audio tones from the RID module on board. The best we are going to have is seeing that it is off for some reason after we land or in some kind of status code with lights blinking that we didn't see during take off. Since the majority of them will be self powered carrying their own battery as to be able to swap them between quads, there won't be any real integration with the data they are outputting and our flight controllers. I suppose we could open the app ourselves and leave it running while we fly and have our spotters keep an eye on it for any funny business, but that is a hard one to shake out in the real world.

[@robertnordeck9547]

Thank you for this very informative video; but I am not sure how to handle RID?? 😬🤢

[@felixruiz2838]

The FAA doesn't make the AIR !! You made great points ! how about since the FAA wants us to have RID let them pay for these module's .

[@MikeG4936]

Good points.

[@airflowfpv7791]

We were never even supposed to have license plates though, thay were meant for commercial vehicles.. Also those are great ideas to use on a legitimate government but not in this clownworld. You can take only 1 of 2 sides..

[@followthewhiterabbit7504]

Excellent idea! Make enforcement a real pain in the you-know-what for the FAA (or the relevant authority in your country). Why not make it a PITA for your local law enforcement and local government as well? No harm getting them resenting all the extra work the FAA is generating, even if it's just fielding phone calls. And remember, in an encounter with a "Karen", the first person to call the Police, wins.

[@dieterweik6858]

Has there been any official information on penalties for noncompliance? I assume a fine, but how much?

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I haven't seen anything as of yet, but I am sure there are others who have more information on that and are in much tighter circles with the regulation. I would say there are some precedents for some steep fines given some other FAA actions I have seen taken, but where it will land officially I am not sure.

[@TorqueRoller]

Yes! Wear them down, imagine freestyle and race pilots reporting all of their crashes, ridiculous! I also think we have an argument with performance degradation due to weight added to the aircraft (at least with models on the lower end). Looks like the lightest module I've seen is 10g (and that doesn't include GPS on the unit). On a 250g model, that is 4% of the craft's total weight. Imagine a 40,000 lbs business jet being required to carry equipment that is 4% of that craft's total weight. That would be 1600 lbs!!!!! No one would allow a requirement like that!

[@maddercat]

um, that wasnt what happened in the video....they did see it on the app, and they still called it in, then they called the fbi which had a backrecord of all the drone operators flights, and then they fined him for not having a waiver to fly over people. They're depriving those of us that bought prebuilt bnf fpv drones that can't solder of our ability to fly in essence stealing our drones from us and preventing the safe use of our private property which should be illegal...that's what should be prosecuted. The court case also didn't rule against the law, it only said there were no issues with which to set precedent because they tried to sue based on constitutionality which was completely wrong imo. Bardwell just put out a video against this way of thinking about trying to specify the type of drone that has tracking he called it, "throwing the camera drone people under the bus". lol

[@modquad18]

Thanks - one of the most mature discussions on this that I’ve yet seen. However, apparently you aren’t aware of that Xjets guy’s past. He’s a miserable shit-kicker who has been in trouble numerous times with his country’s model aviation authority and the general aviation community. He is not someone to look up to or even reference by someone of your caliber. His M.O. is to rile people up so they’ll disrespect authority the way he does. I have a lot of respect for you and the things you’re doing. Thanks again and stay safe.

[@GhostRyderFPV]

*__* I just had a fairly brilliant brain fold spark. The SpeedyBee FC's I've been -able to afford- *love for their features,* ahem, have built in Bluetooth, at least on my (uniquely named) F405 Wing APP and the 20x20 and 30x30 F405's. What's in the way, _just throwing this out there,_ to implement an RID solution on this hardware? The non-standalone RID units work with existing GPS telemetry though Serial, I believe, and transmit over a Bluetooth radio on the RID unit. Well, the Speedybee FC's already have that hardware onboard, and if you've got a GPS puck, that's everything you need? Heck, the company already implements an independent LED controller on these boards in a slick way, even though it is independent of the FC, and RID is a pretty dumb requirement, as far as processing goes... Why not?

[@Flumphinator]

Good take.

[@spfpv6753]

Put it on a switch. Cops show up, turn it on... " I don't know why it didn't work" then you say "I guess this system doesn't work." Then you leave. Next spot...

[@spfpv6753]

Fascism is the new way of governing... Lies and projection have gotten us here... We need to think outside the box! Thanks for the 👍. I enjoy your content!

[@Vousie]

Don't you think that if we keep calling the FAA about how we're getting hassled as you suggest, that the simplest reason for them will be to just restrict our drone flying even more - fewer pilots means fewer calls to them...