Removing Content to Prevent being CANCELLED

[@HadiNuf]

Please don't delete the old videos, I watch them cause I'm bored

[@toastymuffin4153]

this ^

[@TheVirtualObserver]

If he does delete them he should at least keep the fire truck video! 😭😭

[@SEVENTEENPOINT1]

Some of the videos are cool as you can see general reactions to older tech as it came out,

[@XillyWonka]

@@TheVirtualObserver don't think he would, it's his most watched video, after all :p

[@ProfessorFrankendilt]

Yeah, I'm pretty new to the channel (as of a few months ago, since jumping back into the world of tech after a couple years in the stone age) and those older videos are fun and informative since I'm working with a lot of tech from the years I wasn't even paying attention to the market so I'm in agreement with keeping them.

[@toto29620]

Don't delete your old vidéo, it's really hard to find old article on old pc parts today, like Nvidia 6600gt or ati x1950xtx... All sites are down or closes. In 10 years you will be one of the only informations source still out there.

[@Joe--]

This.

[@CrypticConsole]

It will massively boost his views if that's the case

[@mattluvsrush]

@@CrypticConsole less and less people are googling nvidia 6600gt. I would eliminate the word massively. Just a though.

[@CrypticConsole]

@@mattluvsrush but I've left it on autoplay as background noise slot and often get older video

[@MagnesiumAddicts]

Agreed. The main resource for specs on old CRT televisions and computer screens is old Cnet pages.

[@RobertoBlake]

Being very real with you, in the real world bringing up anything from more than 5 years ago (that’s not a crime) is considered petty and is largely dismissed and rightfully so, and having a platform shouldn’t change that. Accountability is not the same as Cancel Culture and there is no justification for mass online hate mobs. Being inconsiderate and offending ppl by proxy when not addressing them directly isn’t a crime, nor is it in anyway hurting someone’s proportionate to ruining someone’s livelihood... The entire point of anything being “justice” is appropriate and proportional consequences... What we have instead is hurt people, hurting people...

[@Hallowed_Ground]

I get where you're coming from and occasionally it's true, but any snapshot of the current social landscape will tell you that's not longer true or assured, if it ever was. People are getting "cancelled" left and right for things they did, and a lot of it really is from years, sometimes tens of years in the past. That's to say nothing of whether or not the cancelling is justified but I think you see my point. It's not safe to assume if you did something offensive and/or hurtful that just because it was over 5 years ago gives you blanket immunity or even partial protection from critcism or straight up cancelation.

[@RinTinTech]

@@Hallowed_Ground agreed. If the ideas behind cancel culture were legitimate, no one should live in the United States ever again due to slavery forever ago. People change. Don't ruin their lives now that they are better people.

[@sijonda]

@@Hallowed_Ground I was going to point out the same thing. I think it's absolutely ridiculous. Canceling people for things they did years ago where it was fine back then in my opinion causes censorship either by the hosting platform or by the creators out of fear. The other side of this is taking away people's freedom to decide not to support people even if it's for BS reasons. I can't get a solid opinion on this because both directions I see here are a very slippery slope and it sucks.

[@cane870]

Corbin I think op knows that people shouldn’t assume that they won’t get flack for bad things they’ve done in the past. He’s just saying that it’s stupid how people on the internet dig past shit up just to ruin people when they are a totally different person after years have gone by. Makes no sense and it’s just mass hate mobs.

[@alexp8785]

Except cancel culture isn't a real thing. How many people have actually had there lives ruined because of statements they made before?

[@John..D]

Linus: "My kids don't know how to close doors *closes door Door: opens immediately 😂😂😂

[@Necrotic99]

House is haunted...

[@nottelling6598]

@@Necrotic99 House foundation is not level...

[@joecool4656]

They learn from the best

[@JuliandroSV]

That's how "The box" was made

[@liamspeiran7824]

Isn't there a saying that goes "when one door closes another one opens"

[@ferna182]

11:50 Linus's house be like "when a door closes, life will open a new one"

[@tazogochitashvili6514]

or two or four

[@BrownOpsLeak]

Ok

[@Joe--]

Lol xD

[@RyanLennoxBradley]

Lol

[@erichorton3901]

I came down here just for this comment XD

[@speedydraw]

The -9.6 million dollars is the best part

[@hunter1586]

No 11:48 is the best part when he’s complaining about his ids not knowing how to close doors then he closes the door and then a different door opens behind him XD I almost died

[@myREALnameISiAM]

I think media should remain available for 'archival' reasons. If you review devices (or report on world events) it is nice to look back and see how they were presented at the time. It's not just part of my watch history, it's a part of history. I wish mainstream media would make their older content available. Glad to hear that you are keeping your library intact. Keep up the good work.

[@fin720s]

the bbc on their uk website do this, they have archives from previous decades

[@shopvelox]

Do not change your humor. It’s 2/3 the content in which you make really super technical info enjoyable to watch for 30 mins.

[@charliebristow3305]

Luke talking about porn: "How to hide your... pictures of dogs." Linus: 😬

[@drackar]

There are at lest two ways you can take that, and neither of them are good.

[@SpecialEDy]

How do I hide my... pictures of dogs? Asking for a friend

[@danielfatfingahs5649]

Guarantee linus deletes that video

[@TuxPeng]

I didn't know Luke was into... that

[@christianpermalino9304]

Isabelle rn: 👁👄👁

[@T1C]

Please don't, classic Linus is Classic.

[@mtrps_]

"Just because youre offended, doesnt mean youre right" - Ricky Gervais

[@kaigreen5641]

Oh, you're offended? So fucking what! - Christopher Hitchens

[@xpkareem]

People getting offended is offensive to me. So... there.

[@gearsNtools]

100% agree, not everyone has the same opinion as you and that's OK! I also find it ironic that the groups demanding tolerance and acceptance are often times the first ones to jump on and attack/ demand cancellations of others with different opinions. it's unfortunately because it inevitably hinders progress to finding a middle ground most people can accept.

[@Joe--]

This.

[@Metal-Possum]

"Since when did sticks and stones not apply? Nothing happens when you get offended. 'I saw somebody say something bad about the lord on TV last night, and when I woke up the next morning, I had leprosy." - Steve Hughes

[@Kaelisk]

A lot of Phillip Defranco's older channel content had a lot of smutty content (I dont know what to call it). He had a lot of photo shoots of hot chicks in skimpy clothing or "Hot chick of the day" segments. That is probably why he took a lot of videos down.

[@trackstarpat151]

Are they have to deal with demonetization maybe with more videos that are not ad friendly on the channel it can effect newer videos

[@connorhillen]

Also, 2017 was around the big shift that they started to build out Rogue Rocket as a journalistic entity. Clearing the pre-RR focused backlog is probably just to give a clearer image for the brand and make it simpler to explain the current state of the company for corporate partnerships.

[@LePedant]

Yeah. "Hot chick of the day" was pretty fucking creepy.

[@dippst]

i miss megan fox watch...

[@LePedant]

@@dippst That was him?

[@DJWillSFTV]

I remember when he used to do like hot chick Wednesdays and he used to be a bit of a ‘chad’... with his SnapBack and piercers ear haha. I assume it might have something to do with that. Back then it was never really offensive, but he did used to talk a lot about how he was a douche back in the day and said offensive things. It’s probably just protection

[@VolcardoReviewer]

He also liked to play devils advocate a lot back then. I could see why he was worried one of those clips could then later get misconstrued.

[@sekazi]

Those were the years I quit watching him because it got so bad. He used to go even further than just that.

[@chickenmonger123]

Dave Campbell Probs would not get along with that person at all.😬

[@lucaszhu5509]

He is night and day when you compare his old content to his new one. Maybe it was starting a family, but he evolved into a really respectable human when he used to be your stereotypical college douchebag. With how long Phil’s been uploading, there’s more than enough to make a big compilation that frames Phil in one way. And Phil’s been pretty transparent about how bad he was before, and how it shapes him today. He understands people can change because he did. He just got lucky that he wasn’t canceled when he was uploading his edgy stuff

[@Vojou345]

I don't watch his videos but I never agreed with the saying a leopard doesn't change it's spots. I hate the idea that a person should always be chained, haunted and judged for their past mistakes nomatter how much they've changed their lives for the better. We seem to live in a time now where mercy and forgiveness are no longer given. I firmly believe that people with time and hard work can change and evolve into better human beings.

[@ProfessorFrankendilt]

"Hang on my kids don't know how to close doors" **Linus closes door** **closet door slowly opens as if to mock Linus**

[@justinwood2]

Remember the time Linus put on a literal BRA filled with alcohol and chased his employees around.

[@justinwood2]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipypkIKfd9uhgsk

[@usefulpineapple4538]

😂😂😂

[@SmokeyTheBandit]

I know I'm 2 years late but please don't delete your old videos. I just got into pc's and your channel has been both entertaining and informative.

[@simon199731]

Luke's laugh is contagious one of the many reason i watch the wan show !

[@Blueyzachary]

Same

[@mahfuzurrahmansazal3974]

Definitely

[@fluffls]

Definitely not the same, used to love Luke, I can’t stand him nowadays

[@misaroorasim]

@@fluffls why?

[@CyberCPU]

Serious question. If something wasn't wrong when you said it why would there be a need to apologize for it now? For instance let's say that years from now it'll be a social sin to feed homeless people. however, your back catalogue shows tons of instances with you feeding homeless people. Back when you did it you actually believed you were doing something good. Would you have to apologize for that? Would your apology simply be a way to appease the outrage? Wouldn't that make it a shallow apology? To be perfectly honest I think the majority of cancel culture is arbitrary. I think they're just looking for reasons to be offended. What ever happened to the rule, you can't please everyone.

[@peterglenn5299]

I love the feeling of finding some 7 year old video with exactly the information I’m searching for. It would be a shame to burn all that information just to be safe from potential internet mobs. From the creator’s perspective it totally makes sense though

[@ForzaE2]

Linus calls things about Luke Luke: It's ok, you're old 17:26 Next LTT video: I am actually retiring now.

[@KizaruB]

Next video: I’m selling Floatplane (along with Luke)

[@nevoyu]

My whole complaint about cancel culture is that it doesn't allow people to "change their ways"

[@letterslayer7814]

its just another excuse for people to ruin the lives of content creators...sometimes its good, sure... but we all know that is not the intended use at this point in time

[@pichum4st3r]

Another thing is why should we retroactively punish people for things that were okay back then?

[@TemporalOnline]

@Forza Horizon 4 Gamer Mine is that even if you changed and said I'm sorry, soon it will resurface again and you will have to beg again to a totally new audience, and because it resurfaced again, anyone not in the loop might catch it again as if was something new, and this time is worse because more people are jaded against you, then a third time again until you have to cancel yourself.

[@jfolz]

The outrage can lack some nuance, but let's be real: you have no idea who the creators you follow actually are. And one way people change if they're in the business long enough is that they wise up. You only know what they allow you to know. Those early "edgy" years are probably the closest you can get to their actual personality. As far as I can tell a "cancellation" is mostly temporary. Even people whose "cancellation" blew up so much that mainstream media reported about it just bounce back after a while. But maybe I just don't know the right examples. Most of the drama seems to be happening outside of my bubble. Searching around a bit it seems to be a result of fierce competition among KZbinrs or certifiably actual questionable behavior. Unless you fix humans or remove competition from the platform "cancel culture" will not go away.

[@Manny32V]

@Forza Horizon 4 Gamer i have a problem with cancelling anyone over something they did 1 second ago.

[@Alex.R.L]

urge to invest in hard drives increases... and this is how The Way Back machine got started.

[@awesomeferret]

And now it's crashing and burning, look at their current politically slanted banner on their website. Even the internet archive is putting big money into politics, the hypocrisy and lack of self awareness is unbearable. Hopefully we can continue to trust the internet archive.

[@Shyvorix]

@@awesomeferret Huh? You mean them talking about fighting disinformation? (i.e. Intentionally spreading false information, not misinformation which is unintentional).

[@awesomeferret]

@@Shyvorix no, it was politically slanted. I was an idiot and didn't archive it (oh the irony). I don't remember what the wording was, but it was worded as if only one political side could be capable of spreading misinformation. I suspect they pulled it because they realized how that could bite them so hard considering how often mainstream media goofed in 2020. You don't even have to go into politics, there are people on both sides spreading disinformation about the Covid vaccine in an attempt to get people to not take it for various reasons. And people forget that anti vaxxers are very much a bipartisan problem.

[@Shyvorix]

@@awesomeferret I agree with the antivax issue being bipartisan, though yea its far reaching to say only one side does misinformation (though I guess you can argue 2 side does disinformation more on average? But that would require so much research (dozens of hours) that the effort to do such stuff would be monumental unless archiving was done on the fly. Everyone is capable of lying. Everyone lies. The question is who is doing it the most, and why. (is it for personal gain? Or simply a case of ignorance? Was it accidental, or 100%.intentional?) Even I've caught myself lying by accident and I tend to be really hard-pressed to only speak face value. Shit's rough these days.

[@chrisakaschulbus4903]

@@Shyvorix the problem with "fake news" is that those people who believe and want to spread it (because why wouldn't you if the elite is making our drinking water icky?) and in their mind they don't spread misinformation. So, black on white, when is it X and when is it Y?

[@spacered949]

The best part of this video was you two ripping on each other. Don’t delete.

[@hotsoup1001]

Deleting videos makes people think you're hiding something, and what you deleted still exists somewhere in some form. Best to leave things alone.

[@shize9ine]

Linus - always griping about low res web cams Also linus - has blurry unfocused web cam

[@arir43]

That was his point lol

[@shize9ine]

Ari R - haha yeah but I doubt he’s using an integrated webcam on his streaming setup.

[@coyjin]

This showed up in my feed and I'm glad it did. I use to watch LMG content more when I was in college and since then I've fallen off the wayside but I revisit every once in a while to see how things are going. Its not often that you get insight into who a content creator really is, but seeing Linus' face after he finished recounting the trouble he has had on social media, you can really see that he is just a good guy. All he wants to do is make good content support his family and employees and that in my own opinion the most sinister face to cancel culture is that you have such a good hearted person like Linus that now needs to worry him self with what he filmed ages ago because people cant see the person for who they really are. you probably will never read this Linus but I hope that you keep doing what you are doing. We all love your content and will keep watching it no mater how many times you use a banana for scale.

[@Marrrrtin]

Outrage and "Cancel Culture" is toxic to the core. People have to have compassion and understanding in order to change and grow. "Cancelling" someone does nothing to help change and growth. And if they've already changed, it's actually counteractive. Linus and Luke restore my faith in humanity because they clearly know the value of compassion and understanding. Your hearts are in the right place, guys! ❤️ 😊

[@areallyboredguy5825]

Why is it cancelled people don’t disappear into obscurity??? Being cancelled and all it seems they’re so popular still while they tour bitching about how everyone cancelled them

[@Marrrrtin]

@@areallyboredguy5825 Because "Cancel Culture" doesn't work, it's ineffective. It's just useless, hateful nonsense. People screaming to "cancel" someone doesn't make them lose all their followers and influence overnight, just like people screaming to boycott a company doesn't make them go bankrupt overnight. Some people just love drama.

[@areallyboredguy5825]

@@Marrrrtin it doesn’t exist...

[@jemiebridges3197]

Meh, there comes a time when your petty excuses don't cut it anymore and you need to be shut down. Cancel Culture is not new and has a reason. It exists. However current usage is mob mentality, not actual cancer culture.

[@Marrrrtin]

@@jemiebridges3197 I'm not talking about people who won't change. Bad people who continue to do wrong should be called out. But as you say, current mob mentality is not good/effective, which is something we can both agree on. (Edit: typo)

[@Donnerwamp]

Another idea why someone might delete old videos: Changing license agreements. You've used music you aquired the rights for, something changes (the company you made the agreement with ceases to exist, it gets bought by someone else or it's something on your side) and BAM! Copyright notice on, idk, 300 videos or so.

[@GeneralNickles]

Or it could be that you find out the artist that made the track you have the license for sampled another track, and the content ID system flagged that sample. A minecraft youtuber called Mumbo Jumbo got hit with over 300 copyright claims overnight because of that. And it was his intro music. He had to spend an an entire weekend cutting the track from every video on his channel.

[@trstmeimadctr]

I feel like this all just boils down to the fact that we have a bunch of new adults that fail to realize that just because they were ignorant to something and are just finding out about it now, that doesn't make it news.

[@papahandsoap2259]

This channel is a goldmine. I think it's way more digestible to watch a 20, 30 min clip of the WAN show than watching the entire broadcast - but I will still tune in when I can!

[@duke605]

Phil has always been of the mindset of "I'm leaving my past stuff up so people can see the progression I've made." He's talked multiple times about how the old content he made was cringey and edgy but that he was going to leave it up because he doesn't feel that way or do those types of things anymore and that should count for something. I'm thinking he's seeing all this cancel culture BS and changed his mind on his old videos because it doesn't matter if HE knows he's changed because the mob won't care

[@joeqiao1691]

Yea. It's quite sad. I've been watching Jenna Marbles since 2011 and have seen her growth as a person. It's a shame people tried to cancel her for some old comedy videos and they succeeded. Been watching Phil from 2016 as well, it's quite sad that he has to do this to prevent angry twitter mob from ruining his livelyhood and have his employees lose their jobs.

[@RobertoBlake]

It’s really ashame we can’t allow people to grow and the mob thinks that’s what “accountability “ is

[@connorhillen]

Also remember that the channel has his name, but it's developed into a significantly larger and different entity; especially around 2017. It's not so much about Phil changing as it is *the channel the brand, the company*. If you're trying to form partnerships you want them to focus on the last three years. 15+ years of history just invites a muddy and unfocused conversation that doesn't contribute anything. I don't really know that the PDS stuff is so much a conversation about cancel culture as it is having built up enough content as this new corporate entity to be able to clear everything beforehand and maintain a more cohesive brand.

[@rudysal1429]

That guy is a joke, I can't stand his show or voice. Just the continued disintegration of intelligence and society lol.

[@jess-sch]

I'm still waiting for that mysterious cancel culture mob that supposedly exists and comes after people for things they've said years ago. All recent major cases of someone getting 'cancelled' was either sexual harassment or someone's *current* opinion being shit. I've never actually seen a case where people are getting 'cancelled' by a significant number of people over years old comments that they'd clearly no longer agree with.

[@silent045]

The fact that people really got offended at the Amazon Go video shows just how petty people can be when all they want to do is make someone look bad for anything. He didn't do or say anything wrong in the video but yet people still gave him hate just because he thought that the word tampon would get more clicks. Which makes perfect sense

[@NicholasSouris]

In 2017, DeFranco announced he was no longer working with Group Nine Media and would instead be an independent creator again. Perhaps he doesn't own the content he deleted

[@ale-lp]

Linus: "My kids don't know how to close doors" Also Linus: fails to close the door he was complaining about.

[@Bert1268]

that's a different door

[@lonniewatson9109]

Actually that was a closet door that opened after he closed the door behind it

[@sayanghosh6996]

That is a different door

[@dizuko_]

Linus: My kids dont know how to close doors *Closes door* 2 Door: Im now gonna troll him

[@kodaloid]

I would argue it's important to keep videos related to covering events and product launches. Being able to compare the future and the past might come in use one day

[@carpemkarzi]

Hmmmmm I guess the old adage never put anything in writing (on on video and uploaded to earth) that you wouldn’t want read back to you by a judge still holds.

[@nickm6705]

He definitely do it for fear of being cancelled, in at least one vid a month he acknowledges he used to be a tool and people can grow from their mistakes, and he isn't ashamed of his own.

[@Retnaburn]

He's still a douchebag, just rooting for a different team.

[@youtubecommenter2527]

Deleting them IS being ashamed of it.

[@simon199731]

No !!!!! Dont delete any video ! I have discovered your channel about a year ago a watch nearly every video yous posted in the last 5 year im sad now that i have run out of your video

[@anon_y_mousse]

I have no idea why two year old videos keep getting recommended to me, but I miss the days when YT would have the date or an age under every video thumbnail regardless of where you saw it.

[@gregorysech7981]

I mean, I'd argue that in X years those videos would have gained quite historical value. It would be a shame if all copies were lost.

[@cawright0110]

I think that IF you decide to delete old videos. Don't nuke the whole thing, have a team go through and watch through them and make a list of ones you need to get rid of AND REDO the content, because a lot of the info or process in the video have no relation to any issues that would have them removed.

[@Laurelinad]

i want to watch your whole room watercooling stuff when ever i want. it's just so hilarious and like literally my first time i watched ltt ...

[@nicolozorzetto3871]

Hey guys, using the wayback machine might reveal some infos if you’re really interested

[@j03man44]

Clever to delete everything. Makes it difficult to search out any particular controversy.

[@JazzToTheTwo]

"Drama in the smash community right now. Sorry for the pun." Someone explain???

[@diamondjohn48]

Smexy time lol but really many pedophile was exposed

[@BrandonWestfall]

Smash referring to Smash Bros...but also "smash" being a sexual innuendo. Hence it being an unintentional pun on a topic he shouldn't be joking about.

[@75IFFY]

22:05 if you’re getting worried about those thumbnails and getting cancelled, then I think it’s time YT folded.

[@psoma_brufd]

I don't think you should nuke your back catalogue, your videos have all been great and I enjoy watching some of the old ones on occasion.

[@Drahngis]

Please don't remove older videos.. They are part of your story and shows where you came from. It's a part of your identity. even if it's negative content or not, it's always gonna be a part of who you are or were. And this is a great chance to get to know you more personally. God, i'm sick of this generation. Every shit online evolves around people being offended. Big news, nobody cares that you got offended. move on. This generation needs a new Marilyn Manson to open peoples weak minds.

[@ALittleBitOfGay]

I like this guy! I am 17 so I have a lot of friends of my age group, and as much as I agree, I would like to say that it is a VERY loud minority (at least in Central FL) that align themselves with political correctness warriors. Some of them, who just repeat everything they read in the internet (which, if I am honest, seems pretty biased to me) do blindly follow those sorts of people, but any of my friends with eyes to see and ears to hear don’t. Unfortunately, those things are becoming less commonplace.

[@MaseraSteve2]

Yeah another reason making me doubting to raise a child in those place as other country didn't have such severe emotional weakling

[@sumaes22]

I agree with a lot of the other comments. Your content is largely educational and provides a history of technology. Deleting it all due to a couple comments that may be "edgy" or no longer socially up to date would be harmful in its own way. Keeping the content as a historical log outweighs the idea of saving face in my opinion. That being said, the decision is ultimately up to those at LTT. Keep up the amazing work!

[@Kokuki39]

I miss the behind the scene videos, it was the most fun part to watch them grow and sad to see some of the employees move on to new opportunities. All they left on that channel is a "goodbye" video :(

[@TheVirtualObserver]

I personally really like your back catalog. Sometimes I’ll watch something LTT made ages ago because it’s informative or to reminisce a bit about old tech and compare it to what’s out now. I at least would be a bit saddened if you deleted a lot of your old content.

[@riopato2009]

UFD tech was basically cancelled for the same video that Linus did 6 months later and the strike was appealed but they banned him anyway. The video was about installing Android on a Nintendo Switch.

[@zeke7515]

Thats a different cancel culture m8. Not an angry mob of people, just a very upset Nintendo.

[@riopato2009]

@@zeke7515 if Nintendo was so upset, why didn't they do the same to Linus? And why was UFD's appeal was successful according to KZbin but still cancelled his channel?

[@TheNewton]

@@riopato2009 Private rules do not have to care about the following concepts: arbitrariness, consistency

[@zeke7515]

@@riopato2009 Maybe because the person delivering the takedown notices didn't like him? He is quite a bit more vocal and critical of Nintendo than LMG is.

[@riopato2009]

@@zeke7515 that's worse than just a mob cancellation. That's a personal vendetta against an individual and using privileges to target a person for personal reasons.

[@teasea546]

Well, Philip Defranco popped up in my KZbin recommendations back in early 2016 before the US election. In every video he railed against "the mainstream media" and was giving out opinions akin to "good guys on both sides", "I don't condone xxx, but xxx", etc. So yeah, not surprised at all that he deleted all those political news videos.

[@dfec1391]

I for one would really appreciate LTT not removing legacy videos, but understand that your business comes first!

[@mariokarter13]

"Allies that are doing it wrong are just as destructive as enemies." That's your hint that it was never about compassion, it was about control. It's like screaming at your mom that you're going to call child protective services because she bought the red one instead of the blue one.

[@Electric_Avenue]

Linus: "My kids don't know how to close doors" Also Linus: Fails to close a door immediately after

[@Innosos]

Honestly some people just need to grow a skin. That's obviously not generalizable for any and every instant. It's just many of these outcries I come across are blown out of proportion from my perspective. Sadly that won't change social medias minds; if there's even the slightest chance of bad press they will want to do something about it - and it usually sucks for the majority of people involved.

[@blaiserichichi2307]

Linus: closes door other door: opens

[@kquote03]

NOOO DON’T REMOVE THE OLD VIDEOS IT HAS NOSTALGIC VALUE

[@Schniebel89]

It could be a clever strategy from twitch, youtube and co. to free up some space because storage space gets expensive....

[@RinTinTech]

I have been watching Phil daily since about 2008, and watched his channel's evolution. He constantly points at the fact that he was a douch bag when he started out and his content was cringy, and he always says that he likes to leave that up as a reminder that people change. I guess something changed again lol.

[@ALittleBitOfGay]

He realized that it was stupid to keep up his video because some political correctness worry could and would come along and literally do everything they could to destroy everything his ever done, and any chance to do something in the future as well. For him, this was really an extremely smart decision.

[@alabasterscarf612]

Misread that as Phly Daily.

[@nickcomer8354]

Im someone who is dyslexic, and i do not find dyslexic jokes offensive. They are genuinely funny and I make them myself. Please do not stop just being yourselves! Do not let yalls personalities and creative direction ever be swayed by your detractors. It is impossible to make and keep everyone happy, so its best to just be yourself and live life to the fullest. If you guys like to make videos and sometimes grab each others butts or make sexual jokes, than do it! Your fan base loves you, and we all know you and the entire team at Linus Media Group are good people. You have helped enrich millions of peoples lives and have brought countless smiles to the world. Just be you and shrug the haters off. Never apologize for innocently just being yourselves, even if someone happens to get offended at you all having some innocent fun or cracking a simple joke. The world needs more people to stand up and refuse to be bullied into conforming into what others want us to be.

[@EyesOfByes]

12:30 The PS5 SSD thing? Joking aside, you handled aftermath extremely well! 🙂

[@supergingerr]

There’s no winning in cancel culture, the only way to “win” is to not care. Even then a sponsor could care and drop you anyways, you could loose friends/connections too. Also I get why someone would want to delete content that could cancel them as it can effect your career quite a bit unfortunately. The problem is there’s no way to prove you’ve changed/grown to these people. You delete content it looks suspicious and if someone has it saved it’s going to blow up, you leave it up and people will jump on the smallest thing you do currently and point to the past as back up. There’s no way to stop or change these peoples thinking, if they see you as bad that’s what you will always be.

[@AnthonyBachour]

He probably had 1 or 2 videos he was worried about and deleted a ton so no one would easily figure out which ones he’s worried about

[@efaustus9]

23:19 its called the overton window

[@carlover78]

Do NOT delete your back catalog. They are a part of history, and you'd be playing into censorship of past (and present) oligarchies Plus, nothing better than watching your old stuff and seeing you guys not worried so much about scripts and wording

[@Jono793]

The thing is you're back catalogue is the gateway to which many people find you. I can only speak of my own experiences. But I found this channel when looking for a guide to mounting an SSD. And the first guide that came up was one of Linus' 2013 videos. I wouldn't have found this channel and enjoyed its content without that back catalogue. I think there's also an argument that we shouldn't be deleting the history of internet video content. Particularly as so much of this content was taste making and boundary pushing in the old days. And serves as an important lesson, of what user-generated video content was like back then, where the Innovations came from, and what people were talking about in those days. I still think the nuking of Machinima was a cultural crime! A digital bonfire of the vanities!

[@TILR]

the one thing I'm worried about this idea of people just wiping out old content is there are no archives of said content so they and all the ratings, views, comments, etc. are gone forever

[@SecureInMyHead]

Dude, Twitter canceling people is like buying an NFT because you think it will make you rich. It only works if the other person believes the lie.

[@flyingpigmonkey1]

I think a lot of people are not ready to recognize that most people are significantly flawed. You gotta decide where the line is drawn but most of the things getting people "cancelled" are pretty typical human actions.

[@CyborgCollective]

I honestly like looking back at old video. I find it interesting to show how a creator evolved over time.

[@KizaruB]

“That doesn’t seem great” Ad pops up starting with “You know what’s great?”

[@billybobjoe198]

When "People are mad about X saying Y" it's typically not a significant amount of people. Also ~50% of the population knows first hand exactly what male friendships are like. You two ragging on each other isn't something that needs to be hidden from camera. If you think two 35 year olds calling one another short and fat is bad. I can't even think of a word strong enough to describe how you would feel seeing two 12 year olds do it. Kids are way meaner and way more offensive.

[@pifoster]

Phil was also under the discovery network up unto a few years ago.

[@GeneralNickles]

He went full independent and launched rogue rocket in 2016, so there would be almost a full year of videos after that that were also deleted.

[@tom.bowen2212]

11:50 as they say: when one door shuts, another opens

[@gundum1o1]

Linus be like: You'll get your "Tech-Tips" when you *CLOSE* this damn door!!! 😂

[@hunter1586]

11:48 watch the background you’ll thank me it give off the same vibes as “i sure hope no one looks at my plans while i'm sleeping”

[@itpugil]

Who gets to decide what is "appropriate" though? People who cancel stuff always move the goal post, so it is up to you guys if you want to always keep up.

[@Dagens24]

Ultimately it comes down to being sponsor independent; if you can afford to lose you sponsors then don't purge anything, stand by your older content (or apologize for it if you don't stand by it), if you can't afford to run the risk of losing sponsors then purge away. But moving forward I think it's important for all creators to put themselves in a position via direct payment from users so that they can't be canceled by pressure from a vocal minority.

[@codybroken]

sometimes Linus looks so sad, I just wanna give him a hug

[@Gunfighter5]

listen there is only one side of the political aisle that is causing people to cancel this stuff guys. It's so weird that the generation that lives in the information age is the one wanting to limit content.

[@joncohen1470]

lol that's not even remotely true. The Dixie Chicks were the first victims of cancel culture because conservatives didn't like their politics.

[@kedrin_027]

It's sad that someone as kind hearted as Linus is worried about something so insignificant. Intent *needs* to matter in these situations or it will hinder people from creating great content.

[@jfolz]

29:10 he never considered deleting old videos.

[@Kasslim11]

Phil always used to say he would never take down his old content because it's not him anymore and it's a symbol of him growing. But I can see why he'd want to preventively remove it now to protect himself.

[@DemonEyes622]

Philly D was vlogs and behind the scenes , I actually enjoyed it more then Phil defranco because of Joe, then he left

[@logan_page]

With Phil Idk for sure why he did it, but he's said on multiple occasions that he isn't the same person he was. Plus he's hinted that he is going to make some massive changes to his channel.

[@DoctorMikeWilson]

There's a missing wanshow from the archive. It was removed shortly after this aired. Come on

[@vindoodles7346]

"I don't know what the standard is", and that's exactly the problem- there IS no 'standard'. You just float through life and hope that your brand of humor doesn't someday become the next target of the cancel crew. It's no wonder everyone's so afraid of putting themselves out there anymore.

[@EZPCTECH]

We have to cancel the cancel "culture" before it's too late 🔥

[@BennettBeach]

0:45 Floating point calculation error, that's all.

[@synthiandrakon]

One thing I will point out is when Linus talks about "intent doesn't seem to matter" is that it never has. We don't judge people by their intent because we can't know that we judge people by their actions because that's all we had to go on. Whilst I'll agree that we do need to engage with these issues more charitably we can't judge people by what we think their intent was. Intent is how we view ourselves no one else can see that and we cant trust our intent to tell us if we are doing good or bad actions. Id hazard a guess that for the vast majority of the men who get caught up in sexual scandals, they don't have particularly nefarious thoughts but their actions are very much nefarious. Ideas such as getting a girl drunk doing everything you can to convince her to come back to your place to "watch a movie" all of which serve to put a girl in a position where it's hard to say no. But that's not the though process in the man's mind they're just doing what "works". It's hard man

[@fridrik6]

We absolutely judge people based on intent though. That's literally the difference between manslaughter and murder. You still get punished for your shitty actions even though you didn't mean to, but if it can be proven you did it intentionally it's a lot worse.

[@cronchcrunch]

@@fridrik6 but in that case physical evidence exists which can prove your intent. That's a lot harder in cases of sexual harrassment and things you have said.

[@PhaythGaming]

@@cronchcrunch you shouldn't be punished for things you say. Free speech should be a universal right.

[@winvsking2011]

@@PhaythGaming well the thing is freedom of speech is only protected in a legal sense. If you say and do things that people (be it individuals or corporations) might not agree with, it's totally reasonable for you to be critized for and potentially face backlash

[@GabrielGabeRodriguez]

To be honest. I don't think you should be forced to apologize for anything you do. Especially something done in the past. If you have a problem with something, say it at the moment or forever hold your peace.

[@zachsabel5466]

when linus closed the one door and the other door immediatly opened i died

[@ChiTownBrownie89]

I am with you, the angry yelling and screaming has pushed me further away from things instead of bringing me closer.

[@The_0bserverG2]

Kind of odd that Phil deleted his videos as he regularly talks about keeping his videos for posterity, so that he can see what he was before and how he grew from them.

[@washingmachineenvy]

he just set them private, so he can still see them to be fair

[@GG-kn2se]

Yep. The point is he used to try and be unbiased, he’d present (let’s just say) 2 POVs. Now he just presents 1 POV (the one that he agrees with) and gives a very lazy version of the second (aka doesn’t give the justification). He is no longer interested in appearing unbiased because even that is cancellable, and he himself has also changed his values from that time.

[@nathangek]

Getting butthurt about dyslexic jokes is so dumb. It's the most minor disability that exists and so many people have it. Source: I'm dyslexic.

[@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932]

Literally ANYTHING can get you cancelled, dude. Stop trying to appease those who refuse to be appeased. You're just empowering them and making the problems worse.

[@jaydibble8412]

One point of having a “historical” record is being able to see the growth of an individual/team/company/group, isn’t it? It’s BS people take today’s standards and apply them to even one year ago, let alone 5/10/15+ yrs. We used to have comedians who were there to challenge society and breakdown stereotypes/biases.. now, they get jailed for “hate speech!” Let’s cancel how society is trending and get back to actual constructive discussions/conversations. Also, if you’ve chosen to “live” in public, on “open” platforms like KZbin, you shouldn’t be able to just erase your history to save your bacon come the next opportunity knocking… Real world, real consequences.. just sayin

[@cubeaceuk9034]

Anything you put onto the web has the potential to offend someone. Culture varies so much across the world it's almost impossible to do anything that is interesting, informative, or funny without offending someone. The goal posts will constantly change more the more people succeed in their personal quests to remove content they find offensive. I feel as long as you are not inciting hatred or wilfully trying to influence other peoples judgements against other parts of the community, then people should regulate what they want to watch themselves. They don't have to subscribe or watch.

[@fredsas12]

The problem is though, that this is not about culture across the world... Its "culture" in pretty much 1 to 3 countries, and mostly the USA. In fact, across the world (which is a lot more conservative than the west), these jokes and innuendo would be considered funny without any "fake news" backlash at all.

[@Mitsurugi2424]

It makes my head hurt that enough people would get upset about thumbnails like that that the rules need to change....