Renée Fleming. Masterclass en la ESCM

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Escuela Superior de Canto de Madrid

Escuela Superior de Canto de Madrid

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@Altonahh10
@Altonahh10 8 жыл бұрын
I fully grasp Fleming´s ideas and think she has a wonderful approach. Serious but at the same time easing the tension. Excellent
@celebrity19812004
@celebrity19812004 8 жыл бұрын
I LOVE Renee's no-nonsense approach. Fantastic teacher.
@xxsaruman82xx87
@xxsaruman82xx87 4 жыл бұрын
No, Callas, Melocchi, Pertile, Hislop, the Del Monacos and LoMonaco were great teachers
@Beadle_Bamford
@Beadle_Bamford 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, you worked with all of them or how can you tell? ;)
@xxsaruman82xx87
@xxsaruman82xx87 4 жыл бұрын
@Papa Geno Because they taught their students great technique.
@Beadle_Bamford
@Beadle_Bamford 4 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, Callas taught mainly interpretation. Someone could get the impression you just want to drop some names to attack the obviously good teaching of Fleming without naming any real arguments or facts. Reminds me of a certain president...
@xxsaruman82xx87
@xxsaruman82xx87 4 жыл бұрын
@@Beadle_Bamford Really? Listen to Callas' Juilliard masterclasses. In them she does teach some interpretation, but most of all technique. Fleming's teaching is not good. She makes her students more masky and nasal.
@dgreat5788
@dgreat5788 7 жыл бұрын
great singer this last girl!stunning performance! Bravo!
@herrbrucvald6376
@herrbrucvald6376 7 жыл бұрын
I like the way Fleming kindly implied that the 2nd soprano was coming off as a nut-case and her high notes were strident and off-tune.
@VeronicaBellSoprano
@VeronicaBellSoprano 3 ай бұрын
Fleming implied no such thing, and the girl was not a nut case at all. She just got excited about learning new techniques and started to realize what she was doing wrong and ended up correcting quite a few mistakes.
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 4 жыл бұрын
I like that Renée lets each singer sing their aria straight through before charging in to comment, criticise, suggest.
@celibidache1000
@celibidache1000 4 жыл бұрын
Why? That's just a waste of time.
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 4 жыл бұрын
@@celibidache1000 Not at all. You think like a bank. Ask any singer what is preferable. The reasons are obvious.
@celibidache1000
@celibidache1000 4 жыл бұрын
@@mckavitt13 I am a singer. I don't need to sing the whole song, I want to get input on my singing. I also teach singing, and I don't need to hear many bars to know what issues to adress. Why is it important to you to sing the whole song through?
@celibidache1000
@celibidache1000 4 жыл бұрын
@@mckavitt13 And what does "you think like a bank" mean? And how can you know how I think. Do you always judge people that quickly. Also, what is the point of even addressing how I think in this context?
@celibidache1000
@celibidache1000 4 жыл бұрын
@@mckavitt13 And the "everybody else does it" argument is one of the weakest arguments there are, since it says nothing about reality, only your perception of reality. Pointless.
@lyssimon4136
@lyssimon4136 8 жыл бұрын
That last singer blows me away. Those runs are excellent and she only got better with the notes she received.
@tseyangou7220
@tseyangou7220 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly the best stage performance of "Glitter And Be Gay" I've ever seen after Natalie Dessay.
@normalperson6304
@normalperson6304 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder what would Mrs. Fleeming, Monse Marti, Elina Garanca, Anna Netrebko, Aprile Milo be in concert all together...
@ercheche8486
@ercheche8486 6 ай бұрын
no se que hace Monse Marti , un absoluto desastre vocal equiparada con los otros nombres de autentica divas
@olgabelov
@olgabelov 8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic teacher, great singer!
@MariaLuisa-gh5es
@MariaLuisa-gh5es 2 жыл бұрын
Bravísimas todas!
@paulorenatodemaria6106
@paulorenatodemaria6106 11 ай бұрын
Seremos breves.
@dwightmerle
@dwightmerle 3 жыл бұрын
1:15 enjoying evaluation so much, praise of English.
@dwightmerle
@dwightmerle 3 жыл бұрын
At 75 minutes, that is.
@xj3689
@xj3689 4 жыл бұрын
Where's at her. I want to lessen vocal coach
@paulocarv4403
@paulocarv4403 5 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this awesome master class and so far what i feel is that those singers need to improve their English. If they want to make a carrier they will need to be able to speak and understand English well.
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 4 жыл бұрын
Paulo Carv Why not Renée Fleming improving her Spanish?
@caninbar
@caninbar 6 жыл бұрын
That third girl doesn't get it. Act, Honey! Act!
@xxsaruman82xx87
@xxsaruman82xx87 4 жыл бұрын
Fleming doesn't get it!
@celibidache1000
@celibidache1000 4 жыл бұрын
@@xxsaruman82xx87 exactly!
@liloruf2838
@liloruf2838 Жыл бұрын
@Xx Agreed! Fleming is no one. That singer is awesome, no need to act like pantomime. Makes it look nothing but stupid!
@thesoubretteoftheopera7313
@thesoubretteoftheopera7313 6 жыл бұрын
First singer at 6:16
@Tungusqa
@Tungusqa 5 жыл бұрын
I also have to tell some commentators on this post that while it is true that in Spain the level of languages is terrible, I also have to tell them that the majority of operas are in Italian, a language more similar to Spanish. It can be seen that you have not heard Joan Sutherland, among other English speakers, sing the stupendous song that his diction in Italian, French, German or Spanish was fatal. También tengo que decir a algunos comentaristas de este post, que si bien es cierto que en España el nivel de idiomas es pésimo, también decirles que la mayoría de óperas son en italiano, idioma más semejante al castellano. Se ve que no habéis escuchado cantar a la stupenda Joan Sutherland, entre otros angloparlantes, que su dicción en italiano, francés, alemán o español era fatal.
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 4 жыл бұрын
Carlos María Juliani Even in English! Incomprehensible. :-)
@sybillefandrich525
@sybillefandrich525 3 жыл бұрын
The too high air pressure comes from the native language Spanish ...
@이에스더-d5e
@이에스더-d5e 4 жыл бұрын
Good 👍♥
@fennelbrisquet7097
@fennelbrisquet7097 6 жыл бұрын
sonic arms race extraordinary
@henkwerf1
@henkwerf1 8 жыл бұрын
Schitterend.
@angelpareja-francisco
@angelpareja-francisco 4 жыл бұрын
15:55
@hobbyist-
@hobbyist- 4 жыл бұрын
1:26:00
@xxsaruman82xx87
@xxsaruman82xx87 4 жыл бұрын
They're all so nasal!
@celibidache1000
@celibidache1000 4 жыл бұрын
Why does all the participants sing nasal and why are all notes above the middle so incredibly shrill and pushed. And why do they have super-wide slow vibratos at the top? You can barely understand what note they mean to sing? Who are the vocal teachers who allow their students to sound like this. And no, it's not about their voices having to mature. Their technique is just off. Nothing can mature from these sounds! And, of course, Fleming, being nasal herself, can do nothing about it. I don't even think she hears it.
@Beadle_Bamford
@Beadle_Bamford 3 жыл бұрын
Look, the super voice teachers and highly appreciated KZbin experts are again on their crusade against any singer who is not shouting for his life... funny!
@celibidache1000
@celibidache1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@Beadle_Bamford Thank you for time, and time again, proving that I'm correct.
@rhanemcquain3853
@rhanemcquain3853 3 жыл бұрын
To be totally fair to Fleming, there’s only so much you can do in a masterclass.
@Beadle_Bamford
@Beadle_Bamford 3 жыл бұрын
@@rhanemcquain3853 These comments are not about fairness or objectivity. Some envious amateurs just try pathetically to pamper their ego.
@Tungusqa
@Tungusqa 5 жыл бұрын
Me parece una falta de respeto que vayan a la Escuela Superior de Canto, o a cualquier conservatorio superior de España, profesores a dar conferencias o clases magistrales en un idioma que no sea el nacional, cuando la mayoría de alumnos y profesores de centros superiores de música de las comunidades autónomas con dos idiomas oficiales, se quejan de que se pueda dar las clases en el otro idioma que no es el castellano. La que se hubiera armado si la ponente en cuestión hubiera hablado en catalán o en euskera!!!
@anselor24
@anselor24 5 жыл бұрын
Totalmente deacuerdo deberían de haber hablado en español
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 4 жыл бұрын
Angel sel hernandez They all sound American, in any case. Great. Ugh.
@mrridikilis
@mrridikilis 3 жыл бұрын
No entiendo exactamente lo que quieres decir. ¿Crees que Renee Fleming debería haber dado la clase magistral en castellano? Es una estrella internacional de la ópera que habla inglés, alemán y francés (y probablemente italiano). No puedes esperar que todo el mundo hable tu idioma. Y, para tu información, el inglés es el idioma por defecto para los negocios, el entretenimiento, el arte y la política internacionales. Hay que aceptarlo.
@ercheche8486
@ercheche8486 3 жыл бұрын
un horror , semejante pesima calidad de cantantes, principiantes y sin voz , exactamente como sus desconocidos maestros , sin talento , sin carreras y sin nombres, pero de gran linaje y parentesco , que verguenza para una escuela superior ; presentar semejantes alumnos incapaces, sin colocacion , sin idiomas , sin saber lo que cantan , despilfarro de una primera Diva como Fleeming que tiene tanto para enseñar
@xxsaruman82xx87
@xxsaruman82xx87 4 жыл бұрын
How to sing nasal, woofy, constricted and throaty! Basically how NOT to sing.
@Beadle_Bamford
@Beadle_Bamford 4 жыл бұрын
I am sure you can sing and teach much better!
@celibidache1000
@celibidache1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@Beadle_Bamford can you?
@liloruf2838
@liloruf2838 Жыл бұрын
Fleming who? She worsens every single one of them.
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