Ren - Hi Ren - You Guys Asked For It!! Aussie Producer Reacts

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PrymalChaos

PrymalChaos

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@kildemahll8908
@kildemahll8908 11 ай бұрын
I have watched dozens and dozens of reactions to this song. Yours is one of my favorites… besides being what I believe is an honest, real, and visceral reaction, I believe you feel what he’s singing about. I’m no musician, so I don’t have any of your background. But I believe deeply that this song speaks not only to musicians (deeply), but also speaks to the common man. His message strikes chords with all. We all have these internal fights… albeit not always artistic. It’s still always our eternal battle.
@ambergarner8471
@ambergarner8471 Жыл бұрын
I knew I was going to enjoy this when you mentioned a pendulum, eminem, and hope long before it was ever referenced in the video. Automatic sub man! Absolutely loved your commentary.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
@Certifieddonkeybrainless
@Certifieddonkeybrainless Ай бұрын
My favorite thing someone has said about Ren is "of course you aren't gonna be the next Jimmy Hendrix, because you are the first Ren." and that make me so happy.
@crashwithkirby6708
@crashwithkirby6708 Жыл бұрын
I love how he leaves the song on an unresolved chord… because the story is never over, the dance goes on…
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!! Ren never seems to be finished. 😂
@lucidmonkey3591
@lucidmonkey3591 Жыл бұрын
Yes that’s why he pauses for that brief moment before he turns to take his guitar off. This song is beyond the realms…
@mstmy7082
@mstmy7082 Жыл бұрын
Great, you're the first person to mention this. It's why one instinctively knows the song can't be over when he stops playing guitar. It's a brilliant addition (or subtraction 😘) by Ren, that seems to go right over most peoples heads. Thanks again 🎉
@robnewsome2407
@robnewsome2407 22 күн бұрын
​@@mstmy7082the songs not over because the dance is eternal...every time I watch this video I find Easter eggs
@epicmage82
@epicmage82 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say I'm out of the storm, but there may be a clear horizon before long. It's a process. Great reaction. 👍
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jesse. Keep fighting the good fight!
@MonsiorTortoise
@MonsiorTortoise Жыл бұрын
Traditionally the Bard was a travelling storyteller, telling tales and singing songs, for food and lodgings! Hence the music style Bardcore
@TOOLandNINfan
@TOOLandNINfan 9 ай бұрын
"The voice that you hear when you loosen the noose on the rope". Probably the strongest line I've heard in years. I hope everyone can hear that voice, no matter where they are on their rope.
@sarahhillier915
@sarahhillier915 3 ай бұрын
It makes me cry every time I hear that line x
@davewilson4493
@davewilson4493 3 ай бұрын
@@sarahhillier915 I (~60 year old man) only found this music a few days ago, and after a *lot* of listens to the original, and watching even more reaction videos, I'm only just about able to sometimes not tear up at that line even now, and that's really not something I normally do. Maybe a good version of Elgar's "Nimrod", or various things by Vienna Teng get me some of the time, but nothing as reliably as this.
@Certifieddonkeybrainless
@Certifieddonkeybrainless Ай бұрын
I feel like the bad voice taking over and doing his whole spiel was symbolizing the moment before suicide and that last "Hi Ren" was the voice of hope pleading with him to listen, alluding to the voice he talks about with the Noose line. I'm not Ren nor a genius so if I can think of that analogy I'm sure he did in advance haha
@diamondflaw
@diamondflaw Жыл бұрын
His finger pickings remind me a lot of how I once heard Mark Knopfler describe his method.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! He does kinda play like that!
@BexlarsIRL
@BexlarsIRL 11 ай бұрын
'no one's this introspective unless they've got nothing else to do' - how right you are, Ren spent years of his life essentially bed bound so I guess this is the result of that lol
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos 11 ай бұрын
Not many would see what he went through as an opportunity to develop great character and become an amazing artist. He is a rare gift.
@BexlarsIRL
@BexlarsIRL 11 ай бұрын
@@PrymalChaos He really is, he is obviously incredibly naturally talented but I don't think we can discredit the sheer amount of time and work he's put into honing his gift, while at the same time having to fight his medical and mental health battles. He's someone I really look up to, especially in my own autoimmune flare-ups. Really loved your take on this song, I love seeing people get just as blindsided by ren's work as I was when I first heard this song ❤️
@JohnGatesIII
@JohnGatesIII Жыл бұрын
Not just two separate characters but even two different melodies. "Dark Ren" has a percussive sound and "Light Ren" has a much more soothing melody. Done live, that means that he was literally switching not only his voice but the melody back and forth. Add into that, that his timing, for the most part, was spot on between the two. Without giving away anything, in "The Tale of Jenny & Screech", you'll not only see him walking, playing and singing, but staying in time as well. It's been said that he attended "Music School" in Bath, England (not sure if it was "grade school" or University). It's also been said that his mom was a "vocal coach" which explains his intro and outro "singing". Ren is a Poet, a Singer, a Rapper, a Musician (acoustic guitar, electric guitar, bass, piano, drums, etc.), a Composer, a Songwriter, an Actor.......an Artist.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
Yeah. An artist in every sense of the word.
@marktyler3381
@marktyler3381 Жыл бұрын
i havnt got near a piona or guitar, but the falsetto melody has light and side too. First half - D DDDDD AAAAAAA Bb ETC Second halh D Eb D Eb etc More devilish
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
@@marktyler3381 yeah that melody is insane! Such an interesting choice. I realised during editing that I hadn't discussed it.
@SkaterWillsy
@SkaterWillsy Жыл бұрын
The 3 part tale is very clever when listened to in the right way (Jenny, Screech and then Violets tale). He has some really good other pieces of art too. Chalk Outlines is another piece of genius. He really is a rabbit hole of musical interest with his work going back years before he went viral with Hi Ren. I haven't felt so connected to music for years and that was due to being in a bad place. Love this
@loadedorygun
@loadedorygun Жыл бұрын
As far as I can tell, his alter is in minors; his “real” self all in major notes. Makes the alter more sinister.
@NoraMorgan
@NoraMorgan Жыл бұрын
Wow. If you don’t like genres, you will LOVE Ren. He plays with them.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
I can already see that he exists on the fringes. Very cool!
@Perspectiveon
@Perspectiveon Жыл бұрын
Don't like genres either and yes I love Ren. Bardcore is my new thing. cheers.
@barking_mad6649
@barking_mad6649 Жыл бұрын
@@PrymalChaos Jenny Screech and Violet's Tale will drive you wild. Just listen to the video where they're back to back. Don't play them out of order!
@chronicinokla
@chronicinokla Жыл бұрын
​@@PrymalChaos ren and chinchilla. Chalk outlines
@mattslade1633
@mattslade1633 Жыл бұрын
Very well said
@TanyaQueen182
@TanyaQueen182 Жыл бұрын
Your reaction is by far one of my favorites so far (and I've watched an unhealthy amount of reaction videos to this song lol) Sub earned.
@m.a.sperry3424
@m.a.sperry3424 Жыл бұрын
I've watched this a hundred times and it gets me every time. It's a story of endurance and resilience, of perseverance and triumph. I think there are good things ahead for Ren. You might enjoy his trilogy of the Tale of Jenny and Screech, And Violet's Tale (in that order). Fyi, he was diagnosed with Lyme disease, finally after many years of misdiagnoses. The symptoms he has suffered sound quite daunting.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
Yeah. The way I understand it is that Lyme disease is a squirrelly illness. Many doctors don't believe it's a thing, especially in some countries. Ask anyone who suffers from it and they'll tell you it's about as real as it gets. What a defeating illness.
@jasoncdebussy
@jasoncdebussy Жыл бұрын
I feel the same - after dozens and dozens of times I still well up. So powerful, so emotional
@Luno870
@Luno870 Жыл бұрын
Between listening to the main video multiple time I am constantly looking for reactions its amazing seeing someone watch it for the first time!!
@cerinicholls6143
@cerinicholls6143 Жыл бұрын
Done live.. in one take.
@duncankushnir4855
@duncankushnir4855 Жыл бұрын
@@cerinicholls6143 I've read that they recorded 4 and he picked the 3rd. What we see is however live and within a single take. Mindblowing.
@steelbat54
@steelbat54 Жыл бұрын
I love this kid. He’s struggled with so much darkness and he has come out of that dark tunnel a thousand miles per hour. Very proud of him. Not many people could get through what he’s endured as unscathed as he has. I’ve probably watched this video with reactions thirty times and 99.9% of the reactions are like yours. Wonder and amazement to speechlessness. Everyone has this internal struggle to different degrees and how we deal with it is individual. This kid is creative to the nth degree. I wish him all the best. He deserves it.. ❤️
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
In my roughly two years of doing this, discovering new artists, none have been as important as Ren. He is just different. When I saw Hi Ren, I was blown away, but K still had that feeling that it was probably a fluke, or a cool gimmick, but he will likely descend back into mediocrity with subsequent material. Honestly I wouldn’t have even been upset! But since then Ren has proved time and time again that he is a sorcerer, somehow always taking it past the limit and destroying expectations. Artists like him are a once in a generation type thing.
@steelbat54
@steelbat54 Жыл бұрын
@PrymalChaos Money Game 1, 2 and especially 3 are must sees. Suicide sticks in your head. He had a very close friend who left him this way. Ren is an enjoyable rabbit hole to descend into..
@AlexG-qv8ri
@AlexG-qv8ri Жыл бұрын
FYI: Ren is Welsh, lives in Brighton. Currently in Canada receiving treatment for his Lyme disease which he crowd funded to provide. He spent 7 years dealing with wrong diagnosis and struggling mostly in a bed. He’s unsigned (even if he was signing with Sony when the disease hit him), completely independent and self produced, he’s the author of everything in his creations and his performances are quite always live (hi Ren definitely is). He basked for years specially in Brighton. His genre of music is called Bardcore (as in Shakespeare) there is over 10 years of Rene music on KZbin covering many musical styles. Ren is super talented. Plays several instruments, sings and raps. Welcome to the rabbit hole!
@allybandy3047
@allybandy3047 Жыл бұрын
Having been through the storm...now in the eye of the storm, it is easier to understand his meaning for sure. I am in the eye because there is no cure for me, simply pushing forward every day knowing I will not give up.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
Stay strong Ally! I don't know what you're struggling with, and honestly probably can't relate, but if I had any advice it would be try not to fixate on your illness 100% of the time. Try to save some space for appreciating the little things and finding room for adventure and passion, even if it seems trivial at the time. At the end of the day, all we are are memories. ❤️
@ChrisLawton66
@ChrisLawton66 Жыл бұрын
💜
@Tim31NJ
@Tim31NJ Жыл бұрын
6 months later, I hope you're staying strong 🙏 sending all the positive vibes your way.
@dottiegillespie8067
@dottiegillespie8067 5 ай бұрын
Im not an artist but i suffer from depression and anxiety. This is how i think about every decision i make. He connect with us all.
@BlooMKunKy
@BlooMKunKy 8 ай бұрын
best analysis of this song. well done Sir
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate that more than you know! Thank you!
@javalily
@javalily Жыл бұрын
You don't have to be a musician or create music to relate to this. This is a human struggle and can be applied to anything in life.
@BrianC1664
@BrianC1664 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, imposter syndrome (which is the contemporary name for self doubt) doesn't only affect the creatives of this world, everyone suffers to some degree.
@wizarddragon
@wizarddragon Жыл бұрын
This is true. I experienced this back in the days when I wrote poetry but the same experience occurs when we make decisions. Start to question if you made the right decision and you start to go through the process of what if this or that happens and so on.
@stacey37m
@stacey37m 5 ай бұрын
Ren Is so profound in his work , everything he does is top notch .
@barking_mad6649
@barking_mad6649 Жыл бұрын
Great reaction. You can only hear this once, the next best thing is watching someone else hear it for the first time. Chase the dragon.
@dalemurray1318
@dalemurray1318 8 ай бұрын
You mentioned generational trauma. Check out "The Tale of Jenny and Screech & Violet's Tale" and then "Money Game" parts 1. 2, & 3
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos 8 ай бұрын
Search PrymalChaos and any of those titles. 😜 Jenny and Screech was a journey!
@pollyg562
@pollyg562 6 ай бұрын
i believe what your trying to express now actually has a term its called "stealing like an artist" meaning nobody is totally og everyone has influences
@MattSmith83
@MattSmith83 3 ай бұрын
I love it when reactors say “Hi REN!” All cheery like at the beginning of the video, unaware of the emotional gut punch they are about to gratefully endure. So good.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos 2 ай бұрын
I got blindsided by that one. My first Ren experience. Definitely a perfect introduction.
@ScottyRosencrance-dq4pj
@ScottyRosencrance-dq4pj 5 ай бұрын
“No one is this introspective, unless they have nothing they can or do do.” That’s the most introspective line ever. We all know how sick he was. No matter how sick he was, he never stops creating. Ever. Amazing
@ehhhh5536
@ehhhh5536 Жыл бұрын
I've watched like 30 reaction videos to this ad I think your take on the message is spot on. You can see in some of these reactions where people can appreciate the art and say it was cool, but then you can see particularly in the ending monologue who has been through the storm. I'm on my way out of it at the moment and its a long process but that spoken word piece has had a big impact on me. I've been telling those involved in my treatment that I've been battling mental health issues for 5 years. And that's how I perceived it. It was exhausting to keep up with what I saw as a fight. But his words about how its not a battle to win, its a pendulum and that you need to soften, has completely lifted a load off my shoulders. I'm learning to soften. I'm learning to go with the flow of the dance and gently guide it in the direction I hope to go. He has a VLOG that he uploaded to youtube before releasing this song. It was from when he was 17 and right in the thick of it. It's one of the hardest things I've ever watched. To know that he took that and produced what is probably one of the most powerful pieces of art I'll see in my lifetime is insane. A credit to that eternal will of his.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you're doing better mate. Often times in life great art can be a beacon that can guide you through the fog. Keep on swinging for the fences.
@becbrown212
@becbrown212 Жыл бұрын
Kindness and compassion go a long way, especially when there is no cure in sight. Life is hard enough without being tough on yourself. The love and forgiveness that you extend to other people should also be turned inwards. By letting go of the pressure to fix everything you can breathe and take time to appreciate the world as it is.
@cherylrobbins715
@cherylrobbins715 Жыл бұрын
Ren still struggles, yet still creates. He’s an independent. Intriguing.
@thatpandaz6094
@thatpandaz6094 Жыл бұрын
As ssomeone who's going through almost the same thing as him, how he does it blows my mind. I could never reach that level with this condition. I can barely leave my bed, yet he's out there peforming, singing, and doing what he loves, letting nothing and no one stand in his way. I'm gonna survive so that I too one day can live up to my potential. He has inispired me like no one else ever has.
@slashv2
@slashv2 Жыл бұрын
Came because of Ren and the masterpiece that is Hi Ren, Stayed because of the Aussie accent. One of the better reactions to this song ive watched..
@Attabasca
@Attabasca Жыл бұрын
I feel like the main message I take away is about hope and mercy. He says he goes "by many names also, some people know me as Hope. Some people know me as the voice that you hear when you loosen the noose on the rope." That's Mercy. A beautiful message about how the darkness is always there, within us and out in the world because we are human and we have both the light and the dark. We need to have both hope and mercy for not only others but ourselves as well.
@leahvolz6524
@leahvolz6524 2 ай бұрын
Him literally saying the words “pendulum” and “hope” in the first 10 minutes had me smirking.
@michaelaghmalone-hansen5656
@michaelaghmalone-hansen5656 Жыл бұрын
Chalk Outlines Ren + Chinchilla would be a great second review. It really highlights his amazing singing voice, but like this, it has a deep message, the lyrics will hit you hard, one line after another, and each line has a hook! People will suggest the trilogy of Jenny, Screech & Violet, which you absolutely should listen to, but as a second review, I feel Chalk Outlines would be a great second introduction to REN.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
Added!
@margaretc5679
@margaretc5679 Жыл бұрын
I second this comment. 100%
@clscragg
@clscragg Жыл бұрын
I found the live version so amazing. For the To be me song I do like the original video.
@Aevistin333
@Aevistin333 Жыл бұрын
This!
@knekk3
@knekk3 Жыл бұрын
Really great reaction and comment, and I have seen a lot of these by now... subscribed.
@salishseamermaid
@salishseamermaid Жыл бұрын
You will really enjoy going down the Ren rabbit hole. Genre bending is his thing, in addition to musical and lyrical genius.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
I'm excited to check out more now!
@Perspectiveon
@Perspectiveon Жыл бұрын
Man. Loved your reaction and insight. As a 58 yo vet struggling with PTSD and depression Ren really resonates. Don't think I've been equally captivated by a song/performance since I was 13 ( When Sultans of swing was released in 77). Subbed and thx.
@artiste247
@artiste247 7 ай бұрын
Great reaction!
@missleni9122
@missleni9122 Сағат бұрын
He's talking about the human experience, not just artists, but because he's an artist he's able to put it into words.
@fatwallet13
@fatwallet13 Жыл бұрын
What this lad is going through with his personal health makes this even more amazing than it is. I wish him all the very best & wish him good health.
@Otherversian
@Otherversian Жыл бұрын
It's interesting to hear someone actually mention his *movement* in this song, for once. Something I find especially interesting is the way he portrays the two sides at the start of the song; "Temptation" Ren is leaning forwards, showing aggression, while "Hope" Ren is leaning back, and pulling his legs up almost defensively. If you place them side-by-side, so that they're facing eachother, it looks like one is recoiling in fear as the aggression tries to intimidate; It's very well done, but most people - myself included - seem not to notice it on first watch.
@kimberlyseeberger9879
@kimberlyseeberger9879 Жыл бұрын
I've never watched a reaction video prior to binge watching every reaction to this video. Yours has been one of the best, very observant and thoughtful and it allowed be to relive my first time watching Hi Ren. I think he's a creative genius! Thank you!
@stephenmoroney5932
@stephenmoroney5932 Жыл бұрын
Ren is so important to me/people that struggle with mental health I have never in my life had someone that explains things so well plus his voice an skill are amazing
@bojnebojnebojne
@bojnebojnebojne Жыл бұрын
The part where he stands up hits very differently if you know his backstory. He suffer rom Lyme disease and autoimmune disorders and has been bedridden for years thanks to his ailments, so the moment he stands up and talk about Hope hits so much harder when ya know this.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
It sure felt heavy in the moment. Even without the context.
@petergilbert7106
@petergilbert7106 Жыл бұрын
I think your reaction video is the most astute out of the 20 or so I have seen to this. To put it in perspective, before this video, I have never watched a reaction video because I have never cared about anyone else's opinion on youtube, but this masterpiece just wants you to watch it over and over again and seek other peoples opinion of it.
@snapdragon8888
@snapdragon8888 Жыл бұрын
You absolutely get it. Even very early on in your reaction, you were tuned in to what he was trying to convey. I agree with you in that I hate genres. In so many reactions that I watch, the reactors spend half the time trying to figure out what genre it is rather than just appreciating the music for what it is. Awesome reaction.
@sayntfuu
@sayntfuu 8 ай бұрын
"It's a message of comraderie for those who have been through the storm." Damn that was insightful as well.
@jeffreyallen-uw9uh
@jeffreyallen-uw9uh Жыл бұрын
Enjoy the rabbit hole of REN!!
@caleyhook4091
@caleyhook4091 4 ай бұрын
Self taught genius.
@pattimann1541
@pattimann1541 Жыл бұрын
"A message of camaraderie for those who have also been through the storm." So very well-said. I've been interested in seeing who this performance connects with and who it doesn't - definitely with creatives who have had to struggle. But I do think there's a certain kind of heightened emotional sensitivity that some possess, and those people are the ones who will resonate with this song the most. Intelligent, thoughtful reaction, thank you.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
Thanks Patti! I appreciate you watching.
@simontemplar3359
@simontemplar3359 Жыл бұрын
Well said. I think for empaths, this hits you in the guts so hard, and you feel it right alongside him. It hurts like hell, but what a dramatic and beautiful story!
@dhr2330
@dhr2330 Жыл бұрын
That was so cool to watch that curveball hit you right between your eyes!
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
Best description of what happened so far. 🤘
@elenaoakes8494
@elenaoakes8494 Жыл бұрын
If you look into Rens back story he has spent a lot of year suffering with some really difficult illnesses that ended up damaging parts of his brain. As someone who also has similar chronic illnesses which leaves me bedbound and house bound this touched my soul deeply. You are right that when you have nothing to do you end up very introspective. It was beautiful and I appreciated your reaction ☺️
@Chrisinpommyland
@Chrisinpommyland 4 ай бұрын
Every time I hear this it’s the triumphant ending that tears me up!
@jlbeem431
@jlbeem431 5 ай бұрын
So many messages in this song its almost impossible for every person who listens not to connect and dry resonate with at least 1 message..every time i listen I get something diffrent out of this
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos 5 ай бұрын
Yeah me too. It’s a shame that reaction videos are a snapshot in time. Often I will pick up so much more nuance in subsequent viewing.
@ScottyRosencrance-dq4pj
@ScottyRosencrance-dq4pj 5 ай бұрын
One last thing…you have dove a deep dive into the Ren rabbit hole, but until you have seen The Hunger, you haven’t finished the whole circle of understanding who he is. He is amazing at everything. But he is absolutely world renowned in his rapping abilities. Is that my fav Ren? Prob not but after hearing reactor after reactor who only does hip hop and lyrics describing ren as the goat, I think it’s official. 😊 Still On my way! To watch more of your reactions I can’t believe you done have ten times the number of reactors. You e been so amazing! Keep rocking it man. Thank uou
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching mate!
@keithstevenson6892
@keithstevenson6892 Жыл бұрын
All his songs are amazing.. If you like things never done before his "Tale of Jenny and Screech - and violet" is a work of art and Chalk Outlines is just epic and its all live in 1 take without any showbiz magic
@Jay-ik1pt
@Jay-ik1pt Жыл бұрын
Hey man, thanks for the video! I've been going through a bunch of these reactions to Hi Ren from different channels and picking up bits and pieces of detail as reactors and commentators point them out; there was a comment you made that I'd like to (try to) expound on, since I likely wouldn't have connected the dots if you hadn't pointed that out. Apologies for the wall of text, hopefully it's worth it. You mentioned after the hope character stood up about how it was there that it was the first time he looked straight into the camera and connects directly with the audience - after he stands... almost but not quite. For the majority of the video as his two sides are playing off each other and building on each others energy, positive and negative as they push back on each other and they both come back more vehemently each time, he's looking almost exclusively left, right, or down. That is, either at his other self, his guitar, or nothing (also notice he tends to look at his hands as he plays mostly when he's in the positive, somewhat anxious "light" character). This is Ren's internal struggle. We the audience watch on, separate. After the "light" Ren tries to suppress "dark" Ren once and for all, fails, and dark Ren takes control back - he's no longer looking exclusively at his other side. As he says "I am the snake in Eden" his head flips from side-on to head-on with the center camera. Not looking at it yet, but *toward* it. Next the shot switches to the right side camera which shows him looking head on at where the front camera would be, but not at our viewpoint. It jumps next to the left side camera as he raises his right arm and looks across the frame *almost* but not quite across center frame to settle on his hand, then back towards the center-front camera position. From there we switch to that center-front viewpoint again, but far enough away that it's tough to tell if he's looking into the camera or merely towards it, and anyway his face is shrouded in shadow as the camera dolly-zooms in. Next, before we get close enough to really clearly see his eyes we switch to right-side view and he again looks towards, across and up from what would be the new center frame. Then center-front camera as he looks forwards but above the active camera. Then left side as he's again staring dead on forward towards the camera we're *not* looking through. This sort of *almost* but not quite looking right at the audience continues throughout this section as dark Ren escalates and claims himself to be essentially primordial immortal pure evil. That whole section serves to subtly and progressively strip away whatever feeling of separation from the scene the audience feels while unsettling us. Pulling us in, breaking that fourth wall subconsciously and adding to that whole general unsettling feeling of that entire section. Jack Nicholson's character in The Shining does something similar. Throughout the entirety of the movie Nicholson looks directly into the camera for just a few frames before looking away. He's the only character who does, he does it repeatedly across the film, never more than once per shot, and it's never addressed. Its as if both Nicholson and dark Ren are acknowledging the audience is there without deigning to address them. You're not safe from what's going on in the shot, you, the audience are part of it. In the next sequence, Ren as Hope raises his head towards the camera and says "Just as sure as the night has dawn", his eyes lock dead on to the active camera as he utters "dawn". There's no evasion, no subtle look near the camera, he looks right at us as if to say "I see you. I'm addressing you as well". Throughout the sequence with Ren as Hope, he looks straight ahead and level but doesn't look directly back into center frame of the active camera until after he stands and he utters "...floor. And I go by many names also...". From here, he's locked onto the camera for the majority of the shots. As if to say, I see you, I'm speaking to you, I know you. The camera is also handheld for the majority of the shots after he stands. Where before we had a cinematic experience from a tripod; the *shot* at least was fairly stable, clinical, a view into this scene from afar - now it's more real, more personal as he stares at the audience and says that he won't be defeated. He's looking straight at the audience as he says "You know how I know that I'll prosper? Because I stand here beside you today" Speaking to his dark side and the audience in equal measure. Standing beside *us* as well. A filmmaker points out in another reaction I watched that these closeup handheld shots are performed physically close up, with a wide lens. It serves to still show a lot of the background but brings the audience closer in to the subject. Less room to breathe. Closer. More personal. Now he puts his guitar down, long since having stripped any audience separation away on a subconscious level, now speaking directly and exclusively to the audience about his own internal struggle, and as he finishes it all he states "I must remember, WE must remember that we are human beings". Driving that nail of connection firmly in, including us EXPLICITLY. WE. We are human beings. He says this immediately after defining the separation between humans, angels, demons, and gods as being the "eternal dance", which immediately before that he defined as his struggles with mental health. His struggle with the light and dark inside himself. Without actually speaking the words, he says to us the audience: "I see you. I know you struggle. It's okay. It's going to be okay. We're all human. We all struggle. You're not alone". He and the videographer have been progressively working towards disarming the audience, and the message is that much more powerful because of it. From the moment he speaks his first "Hi Ren", he's put himself and his self doubt on display for all to see, bearing his soul to us. Here we are at the end, feeling equally transparent, as if we've been looking into a mirror the whole time as the mirror stares back somehow. Incredible.
@sherylw4599
@sherylw4599 Жыл бұрын
I hope you listened to the whole thing without breaks, because the way Ren amps up the pacing, his voice intensifies, the flickering lights (dark Ren + integrated Ren at the end), camera angles… god this kid is such a bloody genius. I get chills every time.
@kevbruce9191
@kevbruce9191 Жыл бұрын
The use of the different lighting from each perspective is brilliant 👏
@gobkin123
@gobkin123 Жыл бұрын
I didn't realize this until after I had watched (quite) a few Ren reactions is that the "She sells seashells by the seashore" is a reference to his song "Money Game Part 2." Recommend you check that out (you don't need to watch Part 1 to enjoy part 2, but its worth watching also)
@ConstantCreator2000
@ConstantCreator2000 Жыл бұрын
Even by modern, highly-produced KZbin videos’ standards, this video stands in its own. It’s tough to find the words to describe the genius in that performance. The sophisticated lyrics, the intricate guitar work, the raw creativity involves is mind-blowing. I cry regularly watching this video. Not because of Rens story, the subject it tackles or how it makes me feel. It’s that his genius makes me feel inadequate. I could never, ever create something like as amazing as this.
@andrewcalvert2801
@andrewcalvert2801 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a song that has connected and been shared around and talked about by so many people, just brilliant
@grischad20
@grischad20 Жыл бұрын
i have absolutely made everyone i felt needed to hear this music listen to this music. if they don't get the message i can't be faulted for trying. at the end of the day everybody suffer, don't be so rigid, learn to bend. the world isn't out to get YOU in particular. at least that's how i understand it.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
He reminds me of a mate of mine who has savage autoimmune problems. He is in constant pain and was unable to work more than two days in a row. However he is also one of the most cheerful and optimistic people I know! People who know what true suffering is can also be the most inspiring.
@jonherron7418
@jonherron7418 Жыл бұрын
People that dont relaye at all to this are either in denial, or are so controllled by their mental illness that they dont realize they are ill. Personally I believe EVERYONE in the world has some form of mental illness.
@dianeshelton9592
@dianeshelton9592 8 ай бұрын
@@PrymalChaosoh don’t put that on him please. It’s hard enough for people with chronic disease to be their own person , let alone to be inspirational to others, what a burden on top of all he has to cope with. You need to listen to REN Chalk outlines to know how that feels. Your friend will paint on a bright smile but some days he is just a chalk outline of who he is walking about. That bright smile gets oh so wearying. I too am chronically ill , live with pain and suffering, I too have days when I am just a chalk outline and sometimes that bright smile is really hard to paint on. Don’t make it harder for your friend to have to carry the burden to be inspiring too. I have had people say that to me as well and I really can’t cope with that added burden .
@lussacmomin6178
@lussacmomin6178 Жыл бұрын
React to jennys tale, screech tale and violets tale a triology by Ren... You'll blow your mind. Ren is a producer, multi instrumentalists, songwriter, genius lyricist, everything you want Ren got it!
@janandersson9411
@janandersson9411 Жыл бұрын
Don’t think I’ve seen you this concentrated before.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
It was an intense experience!
@cyclops60
@cyclops60 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad your reaction appeared in my feed as it is one of the best I've seen. Like a lot of people who have discovered Ren through reaction channels, watching it over and over again through the eyes of others is the closest you can get to how you felt the first time! As someone who is not in the least artistic I thought your insights were really interesting. Do you think I'm right in thinking that some of the guitar intro was a bit 'discordant' to introduce the idea of the negative voice early on? I can understand the self-doubt that artists get as it is inevitible to be influenced by those that you have heard before and the lines can become blurred between the subconscious and plagiarism. I'm a big fan of Kate Bush, Kevin Rowland (Dexy's) and the like who make music for themselves and not as 'product' for the masses. I also think the battle with your subconscious is a universal theme and relatable even if you're not a musician or struggling with ill health. I'm in my 60's and have grown up with music from a lot of decades! I struggle to make the effort to listen to new music these days but Ren has taken me back to when I was obsessed with the Jam and eagerly awaited every new release. I've shared Ren with my friends but sadly they don't seem to get it, which is why I write long rambling comments on you tube!
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
Haha. Yeah I am going through the same thing with introducing Ren to people. They will find him when the time is right. I think you're right about the intro guitar. It's definitely played aggressively for effect.
@DomAtaGlance
@DomAtaGlance Жыл бұрын
I loved what you said about him juggling so Many balls. From what my untrained Eye has come up with he's flawlessly transitioning between characters with their own unique voices, personality, demeanor, instrument playing style, facial expressions, cadence, tone, confidence or lack there of. In my opinion a piece like this, with so many balls in air is just begging for failure. If he comes in a little early or a little late, if he misses the mark at all the entire piece comes crashing down spectacularly. I think the only way he is able to perform it is because it's not a learned and rehearsed piece. It's literally just ren giving himself to the audience. It's a genuine expression of what is inside of him.
@JonathanLeech-r3u
@JonathanLeech-r3u 10 ай бұрын
My friend, I am a 60 year old man, I've been through war and many of lifes hardships. I've managed to come out the other end untroubled but unwittingly self mentally treated. I have listened to many explanations of this video and you my friend strike the right dialogue. This guy is a modern day Shakespeare make no mistake, I only wish I had his insight to explain what many needed to hear. I hope your explanation rings the same chord with many who suffer with mental illness. Especially those who have harboured such suffering but have learnt to deal with it through shear default..... Well done you for your explanation
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos 10 ай бұрын
I’m speechless! Thank you. Sometimes I feel like I’m saying a lot without really finding the words to express how I feel accurately in the moment. It’s wonderful to hear that what I managed to say resonated with you. Ren is a ‘once in a generation’ poet. Often I don’t feel like I’m qualified to even listen to his music let alone comment on it! Thanks again for watching. 😊
@doctorfunkshock
@doctorfunkshock 6 ай бұрын
I've watched a few reaction videos to Ren, yours really hit the spot I think. I love watching people connect with Ren for the first time. He's the real deal, and I see that you really got it and understood and even pre-empted some of what was to come. Great insights.
@z3r0w1ng
@z3r0w1ng Жыл бұрын
Ren is simply a genius musically, since you have now taken the red pill and your eyes are open, Ren's world is an incredible catalog of art. Yes, this is live. Ren is the one take king. This was his 4th take and he nailed it. The Tales of Jenny and Screech (Full Version) is another live one take anthology.
@zenmaster356
@zenmaster356 Жыл бұрын
When you said its a message of camaraderie for those who have weathered the storm... Yes...
@TheyStillCallMeRicky
@TheyStillCallMeRicky Жыл бұрын
THAT speechlessness is almost unanimous with the Musicians that have seen this. It's an explosion of Inspiration that his happening in your beautiful mind. 8-)
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
I'm still speechless. Haha.
@AndyFryArt
@AndyFryArt Жыл бұрын
Great reaction it felt like you really felt it and understood it 💛 I loved how open and raw this performance is especially talking about mental health!
@suzannemurnane2714
@suzannemurnane2714 Жыл бұрын
Great Reaction. Appreciate you explaining how Ren plays the guitar. You truly get him. More Ren please!
@clintgilbertson2712
@clintgilbertson2712 5 ай бұрын
So cool you picked up this is live. Because that just blows my mind that he was able to do this live
@finfouin
@finfouin Жыл бұрын
After a month of watching Ren's reactions i still love it. But i must say yours is one of my favorite! Intelligent with emotions. You even talk before it is brought up about the pendulum, the hope of the "good side" without being cocky, the "bonus" if people likes your art, etc. and also clearly explained the use of the guitar AND the progression of the "good side" personality! Really interesting
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@annaberkley7575
@annaberkley7575 8 ай бұрын
From what i understand, Ren learned a lot of his musical skills from watching KZbin.
@tjh5716
@tjh5716 7 ай бұрын
Check out the shadow changes also
@Shade.85
@Shade.85 Жыл бұрын
Longtime Ren Stan here, I can't explain the joy it brings me to see people discover him. 🥰 He has an insanely vast creative range too, so you'll get to discover him time and time again with every new song! (just don't forget to share when you do 😉) Some tips are Insomnia, Blind Eyed (live) with Sam Tompkins where they're busking in the streets of Brighton, Jenny and Screech's Tale, The Hunger, Chalk Outline with Chinchilla... ...and then take those as your starting point 😅
@remargreg
@remargreg Жыл бұрын
You forgot money games Pt 1&2….😊
@smedjamesful
@smedjamesful Жыл бұрын
I thhink when you mentioned "I want to write something that resonates with me" you are looking at the same cigar but the other angle. You may have alrady made the music that reprsents you perfectly, but this music hasn't connected -- because it doesn't combine with their set of shape definitions -- becaue they're trying to define cigarettes, and this comment is about cigrallos. If writing music just to represent yourself is your goal, then you are missing the opportunity to connect. taking that step to understand and translate IS WHAT MAKES MUSIC GREAT. Not all music forms are aiming at it, but I hope you can see how Ren has just hit the sweet spot for everyone -- it's not your way of description that comes out of your music, it's bridging the gap towards someone else's experience in life. It's rare but I believe anyone who has experienced something like actual love has experienced it, and I think it's what we as people ultimately aim to achieve - ACTUAL connection and understnding.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
Well said! Thank you!
@shevi04
@shevi04 16 күн бұрын
The Best reaction to this video I've seen, spot on!
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos 16 күн бұрын
@@shevi04 Thanks! That means a lot. Hi Ren really is a special piece of art.
@peterwilliamson5953
@peterwilliamson5953 Жыл бұрын
you will be syrprised by how relatable this song is to everyone and it is one of ' the ' best songs i have heard in a very long time , it is a masterpiece , up there with Eminem and even Jimmy Hendrix . it will become a classic .
@janeblacket-darkroomdivaph5865
@janeblacket-darkroomdivaph5865 11 ай бұрын
All his art is live and done in one take. he is extrodinary. he classes his music as Bard Core. Ren has spent ten years of his liofe very unwell. He was mis-diagnosed, and put on trippy drugs, ending in psycosis. A few years ago they discovered he has Lymes disease. So he know this struggle, this dance with innner demons. His music is what got him through all of tihs. he has lived lock down for a decade. he is a lyrical genius
@ScottyRosencrance-dq4pj
@ScottyRosencrance-dq4pj 5 ай бұрын
I’ll remind you You said something like, “Honestly, it’s artist like you who make our jobs easier.” That is not all you said but your thankfulness made a MAJOR MAJOR impact on me I wish I could describe how much I love Ren. And when I saw these sweet words that you sent Rens way, through your comment, I could feel the gratitude. Even most I could feel your love for this man. I could feel that, even though I’d never watched your videos, you were going to HEAR Ren and all he is expressing. You were going to genuinely appreciate it, recognize the once in a lifetime talent, and GET IT, when not every human does, it was gonna get your brain running the eternal Ren circle, the ren Rabbit hole, Talent wise and brilliance academically wise. I lost my words and don’t want to proofread lol So whatever you do, know you are doing it right. I KNOW you are right where you were meant to be. You are such an artist! I run my mouth. I’ve commented on hundredSSSS of ren reactions. I could not be more grateful to watch others go through the same emotions I felt and still feel when I listen to him. By now, I know you’ve dove deep. So glad to have another RENegade! We have a lot so we don’t need you, lol, but we are so grateful to have your powerful energy added to who we are. Can’t wait to watch mire
@nothinghere1647
@nothinghere1647 Жыл бұрын
That long moment of silence after this performance when people get meaning that touches the soul is why I like these reactions.
@karlalyne3558
@karlalyne3558 16 күн бұрын
Keep being creative, keep producing your art… the world needs it, trust me ❤
@Certifieddonkeybrainless
@Certifieddonkeybrainless Ай бұрын
god I love the stunned silence at the end of every react it makes me feel not alone in my understanding.
@aimeekeel
@aimeekeel Жыл бұрын
I love watching reactions to this. It highlights our humanity and the threads and suffering that ties us all together. With the world so divided right now, it’s a breath of fresh air to see such an amazing souls connecting with so many people with all walks of life. Like we all go through this to some extent some people just a little, and some of us are consumed by it, but we can all connect. Love this guy and everything he stands for. He is the change he wants to see in the world and we owe it to him to change with it.
@margaretpickholtz8772
@margaretpickholtz8772 2 ай бұрын
I have watched a number of reactions to HI REN, yours is one of the best
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos 2 ай бұрын
@@margaretpickholtz8772 thank you! I appreciate that more than you know! ❤️ it was certainly an eye opening reaction. I hadn’t heard of Ren at that point.
@hokudadog7637
@hokudadog7637 Жыл бұрын
Your reactions were impressively predictive, and I could see you could relate to the creative struggle. I see your comment lists shared REN’s actual illness history. Great review
@sharoncarroll7998
@sharoncarroll7998 Жыл бұрын
All done live in one take (as are many of his videos), impressive with a 9min piece of musical theatre! Ren has a massive back catalogue and every single one is great. There isn't a single 'filler' among them. I've been following him for years and he has pushed Bowie off my #1 all time greatest artist spot. He's a huge talent. Go explore his other songs... You won't be disappointed
@mattturnpenny7928
@mattturnpenny7928 Жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head at 8:50 before Ren has even finished. Great insight so early on - impressive. This shows how good the storytelling and thought process behind Rens work...
@RyanESmail
@RyanESmail Жыл бұрын
“A message of comaraderie” …. Sir, that was probably the most beautiful definition of what this song is to me that I’ve heard yet.
@johnl3624
@johnl3624 Жыл бұрын
Lots of his videos are done as "1 takes" which really shows the level of preparation and skills this man has because if by some freaky chance that this comes out of him naturally, then we need to strap ourselves in because this man makes raw art and pure genius in how he conveys his message its truly magnetic... absolutely a masterpiece
@direnova6284
@direnova6284 Жыл бұрын
After seeing this about a week ago I looked at his other stuff expecting to be disappointed cos who has more than one masterpiece unless you're a superstar and world renowned... he's amazing and he will be those things.
@kelloneill74
@kelloneill74 Жыл бұрын
When going back and editing this video did you notice how many times you prophetically stated words, themes and ideas that hadn't even been shown yet?? If your reaction wasn't so incredibly authentic and real I would have assumed you'd already seen it. You mentioned Eminem before he did (which is probably just having a good ear tbh) but you also used the words pendulum and hope which we hear about at the end.....then....I was astounded when you started talking about true creativity and making art for yourself and if people like it, it's just a bonus.....you even prefaced it with "this may sound little wanky". Ren then says this exact thing one minute later! The look of surprise on your face because he'd just said what you touched upon leads me to think this was all truly organic and real but man....the coincidences :D This was a fantastic and super smart reaction. Well done.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
Haha. Thanks. Pure coincidence. I think on a certain level I was able to Intuit what he was getting at. Somehow I really connected with what he was saying. Although the beauty of Ren is that he is able to make everyone feel like they can relate to this song, and they project their own insecurities onto it. It's incredibly complex, but at the same time it's a once size fits all emotional rollercoaster. To be fair though. I think I really did miss the point for most of it. I remember thinking (and discussing) it as being about artistic insecurity and self doubt. But by the end it becomes pretty clear that it goes deeper than all that. Thanks for watching!
@RelUnrelated
@RelUnrelated Жыл бұрын
Ren's message gives me hope. It lets me know that there are still people learning to accept that the best they can do is always good enough, no matter what anyone else thinks.
@baskazezulova8404
@baskazezulova8404 Жыл бұрын
it is clear now, that this hits way wider audience than just artists and creative people. Even we - non creatives - do share the feeling of struggle, self doubt, inner fights. You can feel it at work, you can feel it as a parent.. anyone can feel it for multiple kind of reasons.. but it's a nice thought, that we all get connected by the empathy this song evokes in us. Good day, human beings..
@andrewwest8334
@andrewwest8334 Жыл бұрын
Great reaction mate. Subbed and hope to catch you checking out Ren’s other stuff. For me he’s the biggest breath of musical fresh air in decades, literally. The incredible one-shot performance tales of Jenny, Screech and Violet (in that order - very important) and his more melodic, sung numbers ‘Chalk Outlines’ and ‘How to be Me’ with Chinchilla are just beautiful. Then there’s the busking! The list goes on…
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
I'm actually really excited to dive back in.
@TXTrojan
@TXTrojan Жыл бұрын
Ren is (was) a street performer / busker. The Big Push and several projects with his friends. He is used to performing and singing at the same time. He is a performer.
@dalemurray1318
@dalemurray1318 Жыл бұрын
There is always something unique you can bring to a piece, your SELF.
@JulieAiken
@JulieAiken Жыл бұрын
Very Smeagol/Gollum! Great observation. Thanks for a fantastic reaction.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@onthetrailwithrobandluz3520
@onthetrailwithrobandluz3520 Жыл бұрын
Can't express how well I felt you identified this song's message and all the performance nuances. Yours is the best essay and reaction I've seen ( and I have seen a few lol ). Hope you consider checking out his 'Jenny, Screech and Violet's Tales' trilogy. Thanks again.
@PrymalChaos
@PrymalChaos Жыл бұрын
Wow! What a fantastic compliment! Honestly if it was a great reaction it's because Ren brought it out of me. What a fascinating individual.
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