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[@Skybolt211]

Mr. LBoyd, you need to go watch Ren's 35 minute video where he explains exactly what is going on... There's a lot to it and Ren tried his best to work it out, even offered to do a collab with him and let him have 50% percent of whole thing. As far as the scenery part, I highly doubt Ren will be buying more beats from shady producers... lol.

[@alimac1469]

Agreed

[@twichyi3ones312]

this

[@BH17Reacts]

I just want to add to the OG comment that the last panel saying Ren doesnt condone bullying or abuse its actually a G move in terms of legalities and in the era we living its best to try to control the hype that can generate unwanted hate from the fans towards Kujo. Moral High Ground even when u just murked someone, Badass af imo.

[@marcokiki]

Agreed. Watching this without knowing the context of what happened can be rather confusing

[@EsmereldaPea]

He did himself a disservice by not getting up on the sitch by watching Ren's explanation video.

[@gurulimbo]

Literally Ren is the subject matter of “Sick Boi”

[@MegsD79]

Also, the gf became fair game when she got involved and texted she would fly to London and break Ren's kneecaps (don't worry she put "lol" at the end of the sentence so she wasn't threatening him....lol.) She's fair game and I'm glad he addressed her as well!

[@fullmooneve1651]

100%. Typical case of fuck around and find out

[@jamesoblivion]

Ren got an unlimited license on the beat, and he chopped it, and remixed it, and added his own transitions and embellishments. He's not dissing producers, he is a producer. He's dissing Kujo personally, because he's holding the song hostage while his lawyers fight essentially for him to be able to breach the contract, despite the fact that he didn't produce the song. He just built a beat around an uncleared sample, then sold it for a price. His creative input was minimal. He really was just a part of the scenery.

[@ChristineP-qp6vn]

No real producers won’t give a fuck because they know what Kugo did. This is not a video about all producers just the guy who tried to blackmail him and steal from him and illegally copy straight one of his best songs, sick boy

[@strover76]

Thank you 🙏

[@nickmilo932]

Yeah also this dumbass can't even make beats because why else would he reject the 50 50 master split collab ren offered. He prolly steals more than just that choir sample

[@Codex7777]

Love the choir singing, "Stol-en sample, stol-en sample, stol-en sample...". :)

[@Chloe.reynolds96]

No fucking way? That's hilarious😂

[@Loud_Nimai]

I thought I heard a "stolen" in the choir!!

[@mattslade1633]

I knew there was something in that choir bit, thanks for highlighting

[@Xtra_Medium]

Thanks for pointing that out cause I completely missed it 👍

[@cazzhalsall9186]

I knew I heard "sample" in there!!!

[@robertlenzo3303]

She's the girlfriend who stuck her nose in this business and is now catching strays lol

[@RoarinRoots]

She also told Ren she'd break his knees

[@robertlenzo3303]

@@RoarinRoots she "lol" though so we are to not take that seriously 😂 (sarcasm)

[@wendelldobson3264]

Those weren't strays. Ren ain't miss anything lol

[@LeeannG]

Strays might not be the best way to describe the intent here 😂😂😂

[@kronikassassin]

She caught zero strays, those shots were fired directly at her

[@scramblesish]

Long story short - Ren paid for the beat, had a hit and Kujo wanted another slice… he tried to double dip with the wrong guy

[@tomvondeek]

Minute 8:00 you are like, ren shouldn't say something like that, because it would deter other producers. no, every other producers knows this is specifically targeted at kujo.

[@strover76]

🙏

[@AmASexyNugget]

Yeah also Ren doesn’t need any producers. In fact Ren produced this one himself

[@RoarinRoots]

If haven't seen the video Ren released last week he explains the whole situation in full. Should give a watch

[@cathywethington5913]

It's worth watching Top Music Attorney. She's good at explaining the legal issues

[@user-oi6wt6st3w]

The girlfriend said something about breaking his kneecaps. That’s where the “rough” comment stems from. 😁

[@ryanclarke4482]

The one line that made pause, that could be misconstrued if you don't know the details.

[@flashskywalker1980]

Is Ren truly hip hop? He is clearly rapping to me it’s Opera rap. I think Ren is writing and preforming 21st century Operas!! The way he uses the instrumental sounds to create the emotional rollercoaster. He’s genius!

[@-RalphSpencer-]

Producers can be replaced. You can't replace Ren.

[@mikep83]

Ren slaying greed one person at a time..

[@kiwigirljacks]

The subject matter… because it’s Ren’s song Sick Boi that is affected which actually about him. Likes it rough… that’s because Kujo’s girlfriend threatened to kneecap Ren.

[@ratmackay]

The original song was written by Ren, performed by him, ABOUT him, and the beat was even reworked by him...he was, in every way, the subject matter...in your example, Kujo was more like some of the tiles that comprised the mosaic floor of the room that the statue of Ren is displayed in...and not even the prettiest tiles because those he stole from a Bulgarian choir. He doesn't need to be worried about other producers. He now has the resources to do things like THIS...and his record with other artists on collabs speaks for itself.

[@beccasalt8960]

👆 100% this

[@tlg22073]

L Boyd just doesn’t know all the facts.

[@meaghanhoffmann5869]

He's literally the subject matter of the song.

[@MegsD79]

Thank you for reacting to this and for supporting Ren! This song has just become my favorite Ren track and before today I couldn't pick one if you put a gun to my head before this song!!!! I'm hoping that he's selling this single and it counts towards the charts! A number one would be the icing on the cake!!!! 💥💥💥💙💙💙🔥🔥🔥 PS - Kujo has listed that he has songwriter credits on Sick Boi on Beat Stars!! Knox Hill posted the receipts showing this lie on his reaction to this song/video!! Ren is a lyrical titan!

[@arderasempre1]

Agreed, you MUST watch the video Ren put out last week, that explains the whole situation. It's required viewing, to understand this "song"

[@patcow9999]

R Boyd, you are the Governor of breaking down music from a cold, first view perspective. Just to add important context to this one. Yes, there are 2 sides of Ren in this vid, it leans heavily on his Hi Ren, good v evil song. The most important 'cheat sheet' for this song is Ren's 35min explanation video of how he bought a beat in good faith from a 1/3 party, produced by Kujo, which he used on his Sick Boi song (title of his UK #1 album). On Sick Boi from that purchased beat, is a children's choir. Ren uses it for a small part of the overall song (intro and end).This is the white gowned choir reference in this diss, albeit not that same choir sound from the Sick Boi song. Kujo had no distribution rights for that choir piece, Ren bought it in good faith with full future use. It get's awfully complex from there (highly recommend Ren's explanation with full receipts). In short, despite Ren offering some pretty neat solutions, Kujo appears to demand full future and past £££ from Ren for the Sick Boi song. During process, Kujo had You Tube remove Sick Boi in a copyright strikedown move. Kujo then appeared to lean on this as leverage. Finally, Ren decided to keep Sick Boi off You Tube which he'll re-record later with all his own beats. Kujo's partner was also piling in on Ren saying some pretty nasty stuff. Mr Boyd, you referenced Ren sort of belittling of beat producers, he's one himself and in his 35min vid he is very clear of his respect for their role in the music industry. His reference here is the relatively minor part the choir piece plays in his song. Part 2 is not made IMO, I think it's making is more of a threat if Kujo carries on with this nonsense. Finally, I think the statement Ren puts up is absolutely necessary since Ren has many times in this spat has been at pains to say it's his beef only. With a 1.5m+ following, he does not want a pile on.

[@Anuta6675]

Ren was right to put the warning at the end, since most of his fans are new to Hip Hop and have no idea about the rules. He probably just unleashed half a million protective soccer moms (myself included) on Kujo 😂

[@JMK-xXx]

Algo Bump! Love to see the community come together to support Ren! Much love and have a great day!

[@gurulimbo]

That first part wasn’t Hi Ren part two… but it was. Ren trying to stop his angry self from stepping in and doing something. Hope won in Hi Ren. Hope was the voice that you hear when loosen the noose on the rope. Now hope is the rope that will Cho….. well, you heard him 😂😂

[@claycarpenter8625]

Not a diss track and Kujo isn't a producer. Just a beat maker he bought unlimited rights to but Kujo used a stolen sample from a Bungarian choir, hence the choir singing horror film style lol.

[@sigally]

Always love your reactions! 💙 Ren's video is worth the watch. After the DMCA takedown, Ren removed the song from streaming platforms himself. Didn't want to be extorted.

[@user-wo2hf2fp2l]

“You’re part of the scenery” meaning kujo’s sample (that HE STOLE from another third party) was first of all a small part of the instrumental that Ren produced himself. It’s important to differentiate this bc it’s different from what you’re inferring. It’s just the choir part we’re talking about…ren is the reason ppl even got to know kujo in the first place…To me, that sentence feels like saying, ‘You must be clueless for not realizing the opportunity you’re wasting.’” 😇

[@Lunabracco]

I totally agree you must watch Rens video explaining the situation then you will fully understand this video.. It puts it into full context..

[@Benholio1]

Don’t know when Kujo got in the industry but I know when he got out

[@gurulimbo]

Check out Chris Webby “Baggage” Ft Ren. The video alone is amazing! Incredible imagery! Chris and Ren both brought truth in the song. Absolute 🔥 Hope you have a great day!

[@ignis86]

the thing at the end is because kujo and his girl have ALREADY tried to call it bullying that he just took this situation public for clarity on their lies. and they claim he has been sending his fans after them when he has repeatedly called for the OPPOSITE.

[@beccasalt8960]

I like to call them "mad Ren" and "zen Ren"

[@Cdaddy78]

I hear ya on the producer line, somewhat. However, Ren IS a producer. The majority of his work is self produced. And after this particular fall out, i don't see him very eagerly seeking a producer when he can just do it himself, much like he will on the sick boi re-release. Thanks for the video friend ❤

[@MegsD79]

Agreed! And Ren took the beat he bought and changed the arrangement and added the guitar. Kujo only gave him the lumber to build with and when he did, he gave Ren stolen nails to work with and didn't tell him they were stolen.... Dude should've taken the deal Ren offered him, other artists would kill for that offer! (I'm sure Dotta is BS that Kujo was offered to make a song with Ren and split it 50/50 cuz he's been wanting to do just that for months!)

[@HelloCoco888]

The subject of the song Sick Boi is literally Ren himself.

[@agtjackbauer]

Sick boy is a hundred percent all about ren. So when he says he's the subject he's not lying. It's not a shot at the producers. It's about the content that was made.

[@Muzak2283]

Kujo is mad because there was a hold up on his rightful publishing cut being paid to him. BUT, the reason it was "ultimately" delayed was because Kujo himself sold a beat to Ren that contained an unlicensed sample. Kujo had no rights to that sample. The sample owner then later came after Rens team for their piece of the pie. Rens team went back to Kujo and said you are responsible for this(based on the beat stars contract) and should absorb this % out of your %. Kujo and his team said NO. Ren tried multiple ways to reach a compromise even though he did NOT need to do anything further. Kujo and his team dug their heels in further and so Diss Theater was born. Oh and Kujo's GF interjected herself into this all by her boss girl self.

[@marshallyarbrough2972]

Gotta watch the video from last week, he came with receipts.

[@quinjesuis9187]

Ren is letting go of the old sick boi and making a new sick boi; which is a brilliant idea and he will make the new sick boi even more fire 🔥🔥🔥 just like this song and the song "troubles" the dude is absolutely beyond awesome 🔥🔥🔥

[@scottclark3761]

I don't know this Kujo guy....but he f'ked it up big time. Ren's video lays it out, with receipts. Even some of Ren's haters are supporting him here. That's rare...Kujo pulled off a difficult thing....he got the internet to agree on something. And you're right....who is gonna work with this dude? I wouldn't. Ten foot poles aren't long enough.

[@bellah4831]

Pretty sure the disclaimer at the end is just because of the ongoing legal stuff. Rather than giving Kujos lawyer something to twist, hes putting the disclaimer there.

[@donnaewe3692]

Noice! I always thoroughly enjoy your reactions, Sir! And this one's important. ❤Ren ❤ Thank you! P.s. "that" is representing Kujo's girlfriend, who also lied, and stuck her nose where it shouldn't have been. Makes her fair game in this song as well. If you'd like to hear Ren speak on the matters leading up to this release, that can be found in detail on his yt page here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWiVkpWagr-VfaMsi=v9AV2FtjvrQmoECi

[@spoobini]

Your voice just scratches a part of my brain. Its like Neil deGrasse Tyson mixed with Vsauce Michael. So inquisitive, yet so suave. You are a gift to this world

[@ChristineP-qp6vn]

She was brought into that for very good reasons. She lied about him on the Internet. She threaten to break his legs, and then she put up a dog turd copy of the contract that did not exist. Which she can prove because he has all the receipts. He is a 30 minute video, explaining everything and shows those receipts.

[@audivawalsh2983]

Apparently the people in white represent the Bulgarian choir and they die at the end because without their sample the song Sick Boi is dead (I read this from someone else's comment). I think he said in his earlier post and his comment on this video that he would sue their asses off as part two if this isn't the end of it.

[@lillyvanpug]

I love all the reactors coming together to support Ren. You are a force to be reconned with 🖤 Now let's hope that K*** messes up, because I really want a part two 🤞🏼

[@lonnaneil8011]

Ren is a new artist, I’ve been really enjoying him so far. Thank you for your amazing reaction always.🔥❤️

[@thatguy_5240]

Ren and his mental health Journey *IS* the subject matter of his song Sick Boi, that's what he's playing at

[@infernonine]

The beat that REN bought to make Sik Boi had a sample that wasn’t cleared. That’s why it got taken down.

[@infernonine]

I think that’s why all the chanters died in front of them it killed his song

[@christycarrigg1642]

I agree. Watch Ren's explanation. And, the choir in the background is singing something like, "this is not a stolen sample." Ren is 100% justified in this! This was absolute brilliance!

[@nighteye002]

If ren has an alter ego then it is likely called sick boi

[@BillyVatcher]

Ren was wise to put the disclaimer at the end and he repeatedly asked people not to attack or harass Kujo. A lot of people are fervent in their défense of Ren. Plus he needed to protect himself legally.

[@BenBallard13]

Ren's alter ego IS Sick Boi. It's his balance to both sides of him. The light can't exist without the dark and vice versa. Now Ren is feeling unbalanced, the dark has been removed. In Hi Ren he said it was an eternal pendulum and the brighter the light shone, the darker the shadow it cast. Now there's nothing but light and it's going to cast some REALLY Dark shadows. The title "Kujo beatdown" is a triple entendre. It plays on Kujobeats, the verbal ballistic smackdown diss, AND, the fact that Ren removed Sick Boi from all streaming platforms. He took the Kujo beat down. Being a diss track, all bets are off, all cards are on the street floor and no subject is sacred. When he referenced Kujo's gf liking it rough, she said in an IG message exchange that she'd fly to London and break his kneecaps. It was a stupid thing to say on two levels because - 1- Ren is in usually Brighton 2- Now Ren can add threats of violence to copyfraud, actual breach of contract, anticipatory breach of contract, libel, defamation AND extortion. Kujobeats isn't just finished in the music industry, he's going to pretty much be totally eradicated from it. Beatstars may even go through his entire back catalogue on their platform and see if every single beat has been copyright cleared. If not then he may face copyfraud and breach of contract charges on each beat. If he's got 500 beats and just 50% of them breach copyright - that's a fuckton of shit he's just dropped on himself.

[@OZZYANK]

Mr Boyd is the epitome of a "well actually" person. I imagine he's fun at parties.

[@violincredible]

Thanks for the this, and I actually found it very interesting to see a 'cold' reaction, without the frame of knowing all the details of the preamble. Top work, as always!

[@DyvmSlorm]

Ren produces MOST of his stuff on his own. He was looking for beats to inspire himself and found one he really liked so, bought the unlimited license so he could use it. He took it, changed it some, added to it, wrote the lyrics, and then put it all together. He will be releasing a NEW SickBoy song that he will fully produce to go with his lyrics (I'm still hoping he gets the Bulgarian Choir to perform for the new release). Usually, IF he works with a producer, he is very fair. I don't think he has burned any bridges with this one. Kujo, on the other hand, selling a beat which he had not cleared all the samples from... has committed carer ______.

[@river6148]

I think his line, "I'm the subject matter you're a part of the scenery," is so good because of its depth. In this context, it is clearly an insult... however, a slight rewording and inflection change, and the meaning is positive. "I'm the subject matter; you brought life with the scenery," for example. Any artist knows that the background/foundation is important. Wether it be music or visuals, Ren definitely doesnt downplay the importance in the details. What matters most is the quality, and with a producer proud of their work, Ren would highlight their worth beautifully.

[@MagnaRyuuDesigns]

The 'likes it rough' line is in reference to Kujo's GF jokingly talking about 'knee capping' Ren over all the shit.

[@def_not_dan]

Part two is hypothetical.

[@Item_I_ate_them_pac-man]

I think the line about - I’m the subject matter and you’re part of the scenery, might refer to the fact this whole issue is over the Sick Boi song and that whole song if about Ren and his struggles with his health. So he is literally the subject matter of the song.

[@rtj6874]

I don't think he did, but he does now, Sick Boi is the new Slim Shady. But the back and forth is good ren v bad ren as seen in "Ren - Hi Ren."

[@LeeannG]

Oh no without context this is so wiiiiiiiiiild hahahaha

[@optimistinmyprime]

Thanks Mr. LBoyd ❤🔥

[@ronharder6037]

Can we all just agree that ren's alter ego is named Sick Boi?

[@TheConfuzed1]

As shown in ‘Hi Ren,’ Ren does have an alter ego, and they are both Ren. 😊

[@EveryCloud9999]

You went into this one Cold! 😂

[@KimVerhaaff]

Yes, Ren does have an alter ego. Watch hi Ren 😉 I this is what it looks like if that alter ego wins

[@J-Vasa]

The disclaimer is basically ren saying its his personal issues and he will deal with them personally, he doesn't want his fans to go and attack kujo

[@kevingallant8073]

So, the first bit are the same two sides that spoke to each other in "Hi Ren". The devil in Ren, and hope. Hope was for an amicable solution in all of this... but there was a realization that this was not possible, so he handed control to the devil in Ren. To summarize the 30 min video. Ren bought an unlimited license to a beat on Beatstars, which in order for Kujo to sell there, Kujo needs to clear. It wasn't; Kujo sold a stolen sample. The Bulgarian choir went after Ren, then subsequently Kujo for 50% of profits. Also, Ren had requested everything be done legit. His publishing company buggered the payments to Kujo for Sick Boi. Kujo then filed a copyright strike against Ren because of this, without contacting him. Ren sorted out the publishing - Kujo would be paid. Kujo demanded 50% of everything (publishing and master) on the track. Ren declined on principle. He eventually offered a much smaller cut, and even offered a 50/50 split collab on a new tune so everyone would get paid a fair share overall. Kujo played hardball and declined. That said, all the private conversations between Ren and Kujo were two-faced on Kujo's part. Kujo's GF got involved. And started making comments to Ren with fabricated contract info. Ren had a conversation to try and sort out things, and she seemed to come to a relative consensus... until she shitposted Ren the next day in public. The pair are behaving as two faced manipulators hiding behind their lawyer. Kujo still demanded 50% of the master, and the lawyers threatened to take 100% of the profits. So Ren took the song down and is remaking it without the beat. He went public and posted receipts (the 35 min video); idemnifies him from slander/libel. And he made this song to get the emotions out, and at least make something good from this dumpster fire.

[@alimac1469]

Please watch Ren's video which explains it all.

[@ronnie3092]

His girlfriend hinted at breaking Rens knees. That's the "like it rough" part

[@BillyVatcher]

Thank you for your reaction to this sir.

[@winterlady]

You definitely need to watch REN’s video on this situation. He pretty much lays it out. He’s offered so much to this guy, and this guy is a MF’er.

[@YorkshireMatt]

Watched the video then came straight here for a reaction 😊. For a short summery try Justin Hawkins.

[@teraferguson6660]

“Rough” refers to the girl friend saying she was going to break Rens knee caps!

[@guycarroll7404]

Kujos girlfriend waded in with some lies and the choir in the background represents the choir he nicked the sample from that sparked the whole row

[@user-ku8dt8jk9l]

GF both maligned Ren (real libel) and threatened him with bodily harm. So the lyric about "you like it rough" I believe relates to that; I suspect it was not a sexual reference. However, not knowing much you can easily assume. LOL I think it is genius.

[@jakewenzl7601]

You clearly didn't watch the video explaining the whole situation. Ren is the GOAT.

[@kirsten3112]

Watch the video Ren posted prior to this that explains the whole situation. "Scenery" & the disclaimer at the end are all understandable in this context. Ren has his reasons for all of it! 💯

[@FiddlersGreen75]

kujo's career just got flushed. everyone is reacting on this even lawyers.

[@zgreen9673]

You really should watch Ren's video breaking down the situation.

[@mrsainsburys1]

Thank you Sir 🙏🦉❤️🐊👍

[@WordsMeanThings_]

Apparently, a lot of RENegades were attacking KB on social media. Ren had said repeatedly that he doesn't want that or encourage it. He just needed to get the emotions out about it.

[@seasonallyferal1439]

Ren didn't want to do this. There's a 40min video explaining it before the song came out

[@highlightspotent127]

This is Hi Ren all over again. Genius . His internal battle with himself. Then he drags Kujo out . Straight 🔥

[@invisiblechicken]

8:04 No, this is different. The sample is only a part of the beat, it isn’t the whole song. Usually producers would work on the whole song, even if only collaboratively.

[@n_mckean]

The "other side" of Ren is still Ren. Hence "Hi Ren". Its not multiple personality disorder.

[@OrionStarMaxfield]

@2:22 ren's alter ego is screech

[@OrionStarMaxfield]

From Violet's tale

[@MagnaRyuuDesigns]

The first time watching the video when he premiered it I got chills when the Good side just gives in to the Bad side.

[@BrunoBarata78]

Ren alter ego is called Ren. They are both Ren, "a coin with two different sides".

[@steviehinton9403]

the girl is supposed to be Kujo's girlfriend. The "rough" line refers to her threatening to break Ren's knees. Please watch his explanation. It really fills in the context here.

[@JoeBoone82]

I had never heard of this guy, but I see tons of reactions to this video this week. Reminds me of the guy from Peaky Blinders.

[@charleenk71]

Alter ego is Sick Boi

[@Alan_Duval]

Man, you really needed to have watched Ren's previous video. Everything Ren says here is completely justified... including what he addressed to the girlfriend (and numerous female reactors concur). ...and bear in mind that Ren is a producer, including on this track (along with lyrics, composition, and everything else).

[@jnanashakti6036]

It's interesting to watch someone without the full backstory watch this

[@Lou-xq9br]

#ren Ren took video down himself due to all the trouble 🩷

[@niky9226]

1st half is a call back to Hi Ren - his alter ego and the hope that was the rope when you loosen the noose.

[@blackpanther3912]

Subbed to your movie react channel too. Love how you approached this culturally.

[@dale897]

He has to have the disclaimer at the beginning because this could go to court, and they could claim he is threatening them. So he does need the disclaimer to prove it artistic license and that he doesn't want his fans harassing them.

[@ukdnbmarsh]

3:19 John - This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

[@ScottyhavOkz]

the ending is purely for the twist that kujos lawyers may make on the track as they are still in a legal battle currently

[@jackpeyton9225]

I think his alter ego might be Sick Boi