Renaissance Swiss Sabre/Saber in the Wallace Collection

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@tuestaco4514
@tuestaco4514 7 жыл бұрын
I just realized how much I freaking love swiss sabers
@aldor9357
@aldor9357 7 жыл бұрын
I love them more than my octopus pron
@tuestaco4514
@tuestaco4514 7 жыл бұрын
Do you love them more than codpieces?
@EclipsisTenebris
@EclipsisTenebris 7 жыл бұрын
yeah, I always liked our saber too...
@BIIGtony
@BIIGtony 7 жыл бұрын
I always thought it's one of the best looking weapons out there - especially if you like the more complex rapier-like look.
@JanetStarChild
@JanetStarChild 7 жыл бұрын
That Swiss saber is actually a very well thought-out design. An example of excellent engineering in historical weaponry.
@DoktorWeasel
@DoktorWeasel 7 жыл бұрын
In your discussion of a sword for an inexperienced person (the infamous Pewdiepie one), based on all the points you made, I was thinking that one of these would possibly be ideal. Two hands so you're not as reliant on strength and conditioning, complex hilt for protection, and designed for cuts which come more naturally than thrusts. I believe you settled on a longsword, but you had mentioned the advantages of a complex hilt, so this is best of both worlds.
@FiveTen007
@FiveTen007 2 жыл бұрын
Has to be one of the coolest looking sabers ever in my opinion.
@IPostSwords
@IPostSwords 7 жыл бұрын
I know many Hungarian sabres have cutout spines like that on their blades, and they definitely take inspiration from early kilij (not the T spine type, those are late 18thC)
@CarnalKid
@CarnalKid 7 жыл бұрын
"Augusto may be short, but he's got a big ol' piece on him"-Matt Easton 2017
@xiezicong
@xiezicong 7 жыл бұрын
I concur.
@tuestaco4514
@tuestaco4514 7 жыл бұрын
Glad to see fine examples of the rare bladed codpieces. I heard that people in the 16th century wore these to battle to show off that they have the balls to put sabers on their genitals
@nigelomacnigilson3089
@nigelomacnigilson3089 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful. Clearly inspired by the legendary Elvish blades of old.
@crozraven
@crozraven 7 жыл бұрын
Man, that swiss long-saber is a beauty!
@MagickPistacho
@MagickPistacho 7 жыл бұрын
(...)ooO0ºoOoo·o0oooºoo---*oh! There you are, Swiss saber!!* Aaaah, I can feel my soul reaching exponential levels of peacefulness! Thanks for this video, Matt, liking a lot these Wallace Collection series. On the other hand, I wish that scholagladiatora's cinema billboard blesses us with a new hit about the peculiarities and pros/cons of Swiss sabers (Schnepf, as I've seen them refered as in a number of ocassions?) in detail, in the vein of other great blockbuster hits like "Falchions are not little battle axes", "Moro Kris - I like them" or "Pollaxes, halberds and bills". Cheers!
@thelegendaryklobb2879
@thelegendaryklobb2879 7 жыл бұрын
Matt heard your screams from afar, felt guilty and decided to repay you
@MagickPistacho
@MagickPistacho 7 жыл бұрын
Blessed be his persona.
@Robjobprendy
@Robjobprendy 7 жыл бұрын
Was expecting a video on codpieces but not gonna complain, absolutely love sabres and messers
@JohnRaptor
@JohnRaptor 7 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite historical swords.
@aldor9357
@aldor9357 7 жыл бұрын
Well, these are some nice pieces
@JoakimfromAnka
@JoakimfromAnka 7 жыл бұрын
That long saber is awesome!
@HebaruSan
@HebaruSan 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining the purpose of 'S' quillons! I saw that in a museum and didn't understand it; I thought maybe they were bent for storage at some point.
@rickeymariu1
@rickeymariu1 7 жыл бұрын
Never thought Matt would use click bait.
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 7 жыл бұрын
I got the video titles mixed up because I'm editing from somewhere I cannot play the video!!
@exploatores
@exploatores 7 жыл бұрын
did you change the titles, can´t find what is clickbait about it.
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 7 жыл бұрын
Yes I corrected it. Formerly it was "Matt Easton's Massive Russian Porn Tour".
@exploatores
@exploatores 7 жыл бұрын
so where do we find that video :)
@Altrantis
@Altrantis 7 жыл бұрын
Ahahaha really?
@louirudy670
@louirudy670 7 жыл бұрын
Ah. My favourite swords of all time. The swiss sabre. The pinnacle of the messer.
@haveswordwilltravel
@haveswordwilltravel 7 жыл бұрын
I have seen that sword before. A forend of mine owns a replica of it. I have alsways been amazed that such a complex guard existed in the early 16th century.
@basilb4524
@basilb4524 7 жыл бұрын
Those are some exemplary codpieces. Wow, so many codpieces.
@wilowhisp
@wilowhisp 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if standard longsword techniques would be used with that Swiss saber? could the elaborate guard get in the way of that? I may have a training version of that made someday to practice with.
@JRT176
@JRT176 7 жыл бұрын
That Messer next to it looks awesome
@DaelinDwin
@DaelinDwin 7 жыл бұрын
"Armoured codpieces in the Wallace Collection", not a codpiece in sight.
@hector_2999
@hector_2999 7 жыл бұрын
Daelin Dwin clickbaited 😁
@fisadev
@fisadev 7 жыл бұрын
They were wearing them.
@pooly5280
@pooly5280 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Daelin, love your vids.
@DaelinDwin
@DaelinDwin 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, if you like both mine and Matt's videos you are clearly a veritable KZbin connoisseur.
@TheBaconWizard
@TheBaconWizard 7 жыл бұрын
That swiss codpiece looks like it would by really uncomfortable to wear :O
@tyynymyy7770
@tyynymyy7770 7 жыл бұрын
I think it'd be much more uncomfortable to be around a person who wears that kind of codpiece. The original leather strapping has perished, but there are some examples in artwork and historical accounts about them, so we know how the Swiss wore them. The blades we're either perpendicular relative to your body or at slight upwards angle to create the image of youthfulness, fertility and willpower. However, extreme angles were often avoided, because one must always be ready for deep penetration. Sword blade pointing downwards has little to no use in most situations, although they were sometimes used to finish wounded opponents on a battlefield. In modern times that's known as teabagging.
@TheBaconWizard
@TheBaconWizard 7 жыл бұрын
+Tyynymyy ahh yes, the old upward thrust from the codpiece, known in treatises as Morgenruhm or in English, Morning Glory.
@MrMorphine482
@MrMorphine482 7 жыл бұрын
I've played with Swiss sabers a bit and have very much wanted to pick up the Swiss saber made by Vladimir Cervenka. I think the term you're searching for on it is a Transitional Sword? The balance on most Swiss sabers make it decent for the chopping and slashing that some sabers do, but the lack of a curve in the blade means you can't do some of the tricky maneuvers other sabers can. Makes it a solid piece for more complex dueling though.
@beardedbjorn5520
@beardedbjorn5520 7 жыл бұрын
That Hanger next to it is beautiful! Those fullers 😍. More Hangers please Matt
@secutorprimus
@secutorprimus 7 жыл бұрын
I wish I could go to the Wallace collection.
@blakewinter1657
@blakewinter1657 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like we need a longer video discussing the history of this style of weapon and its use!
@the2ndsaint
@the2ndsaint 7 жыл бұрын
OK, I love the look of the Swiss saber, but the grip never looks quite long enough on them. Like, with a long sword you've typically got a pommel that you could grip, but with these the basket hilt looks like it would get in the way or force the hands too close together. Does that make sense? Am I just not seeing the proportions properly because it's in a video? Obviously they wouldn't be made if they weren't effective so I'm sure it's something I'm not seeing, but they always strike me as a bit odd.
@ZhouTie47
@ZhouTie47 7 жыл бұрын
the2ndsaint You’re not seeing the proportions correctly, compare it to the handle of the smaller saber next to it which looks to be for one hand.
@the2ndsaint
@the2ndsaint 7 жыл бұрын
Ah, good point. Thanks!
@radianman
@radianman 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if anyone is making productions of these 2 handed sabres, and if there are any treatises explaining their use.
@xskyhawkx7821
@xskyhawkx7821 7 жыл бұрын
Can you demonstrate what combat might have looked like with this sword?
@bertram238
@bertram238 7 жыл бұрын
I was at Royal Armouries on Saturday and saw a sword with that exact same blade profile, but I can't for the life of me remember what type hilt it had or what section I saw it in.
@Altrantis
@Altrantis 7 жыл бұрын
This type of sword is my single favorite sword type out of all of them. Edit (the lefmost one)
@flintlocke1001
@flintlocke1001 7 жыл бұрын
That's one sharp and pointy armoured codpiece. Wrong title? Still a good and interesting video.
@Aeiouuoiea777
@Aeiouuoiea777 4 жыл бұрын
I saw that kind of sword (Swiss saber) at Kelvingrove's museum of Glasgow
@ColtDouglasMusic
@ColtDouglasMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Finally, a Saber I actually like! Lol.
@mythguard6865
@mythguard6865 7 жыл бұрын
(Solid Snake voice) Where Can I find a Swiss saber?
@raphlvlogs271
@raphlvlogs271 4 жыл бұрын
Was the Swiss sabre designed to be used by the heavy cavalry?
@jarijukkola3482
@jarijukkola3482 7 жыл бұрын
I have a replica of that second sword made by windless! It seems the blade and hilt profiles are bit different..
@thecavalrygeneral3453
@thecavalrygeneral3453 7 жыл бұрын
Are the armoured codpieces of the title the two guys talking about the swiss saber and the langemesser? :P edit: awww Matt edited the title. lol
@ilikewasabe
@ilikewasabe 7 жыл бұрын
To be honest. In my limited knowledge of swords. If that sword were presented to me i would have mistakenly thought of it as a fantasy sword.. But it makes sense though, since a regular longsword has both your hands exposed. Another bucket list sword to my imaginary sword collection written..
@joshuaspector8182
@joshuaspector8182 7 жыл бұрын
Oh so cool. I didn't know these existed, I want one!
@MartinGreywolf
@MartinGreywolf 7 жыл бұрын
The raised back edge is far earlier that kilij, first example that I know of dates to 10th-11th century, found near Bulgarina village Yarebitsa: media.snimka.bg/5132/016518757-big.jpg (far left) The shape of crossguard on that one (short cross ending with two spheres) is characteristic for Magyar sabers of the period. They are also pretty common on mongolian sabres from 13th century.
@Cibohos
@Cibohos 7 жыл бұрын
Oh that's a beautiful specimen
@elgostine
@elgostine 7 жыл бұрын
umm. theres no codpieces, matt i think youve mixed up the footage files
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 7 жыл бұрын
I did.
@elgostine
@elgostine 7 жыл бұрын
but i look forward to a talk on armoured codpieces as well, its not a very widesly explored area
@TheSteelEcho666
@TheSteelEcho666 7 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the BBC series Gunpowder? If so, what did you make of it?
@ShagShaggio
@ShagShaggio 7 жыл бұрын
Nice always wondered if there where two-handed swords with saber/basket hilts. Are there any other examples of this that I might look up?
@Askorti
@Askorti 7 жыл бұрын
Why does the title of the video say "Armoured codpieces in the Wallace Collection" when the video is about a Swiss saber? xD
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 7 жыл бұрын
My error - mixed the videos up.
@Askorti
@Askorti 7 жыл бұрын
By the way, the thumbnail still shows what looks more like a codpiece than a saber. :)
@senatuspopulusqueromanus3011
@senatuspopulusqueromanus3011 7 жыл бұрын
Well... Have I ever mentioned how much I love the Swiss Sabre that they have there. It's one of my all time favorite swords. PS: I came here hoping to see some armored codpieces...
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 7 жыл бұрын
They're coming... I mixed up the videos.
@senatuspopulusqueromanus3011
@senatuspopulusqueromanus3011 7 жыл бұрын
scholagladiatoria No worries. These Wallace Collection videos are fantastic btw. I'm really enjoying them.
@ethanspearman3842
@ethanspearman3842 7 жыл бұрын
Some beefy looking maces in the background there.
@mrdrock
@mrdrock 7 жыл бұрын
Is it possible these are longswords that have been resmithed/refashioned into sabers? If longswords were going out of style, might as well rework the blade into something new instead of tossing it.
@Gloin79
@Gloin79 7 жыл бұрын
Notification "armoured codpieces" *clicks faster than the speed of light* "swiss sabres" *A N G E R Y*
@samueldanealexander180
@samueldanealexander180 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, more like this!
@DeltaGreenA
@DeltaGreenA 7 жыл бұрын
I have a sense that Matt mixed up video titles, for some reason.... :)
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I did. Now fixed.
@pauladams1814
@pauladams1814 7 жыл бұрын
Cool blade
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 7 жыл бұрын
Swiss saber? So it stays neutral in conflicts and banks your ill gotten loot. =)P
@exploatores
@exploatores 7 жыл бұрын
it historical, so it will fight for anybody as long as the money is right :)
@jamcalx
@jamcalx 7 жыл бұрын
Only when it's not Guarding the Pope.😉
@randythomet2385
@randythomet2385 7 жыл бұрын
But the Swiss mercenaries used pike and crossbow.
@exploatores
@exploatores 7 жыл бұрын
I am shure they hade a sidearm.
@beardedbjorn5520
@beardedbjorn5520 7 жыл бұрын
Guys, it’s a bloody joke!
@PARAMONARIOS
@PARAMONARIOS 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible! Swiss nodachi? :)
@syntax13x
@syntax13x 7 жыл бұрын
"Armoured codpieces" - shows swords. Most uncomfortable codpieces I've ever seen.
@asahearts1
@asahearts1 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, Matt, I was just wondering, if you were in a medieval gang fight, it would probably be a good idea to take a dead person's sword and use it as a projectile, no?
@PJDAltamirus0425
@PJDAltamirus0425 7 жыл бұрын
This makes me wonder if it is safe to go Posta Breve crazy with this sword.
@d3m0nprince
@d3m0nprince 7 жыл бұрын
I stumbled onto this post ( myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=17910 ) a while back about a commissioned sword based on this exact piece and have been in love with it ever since. Oh to be able to afford a sword like that...
@DoktorWeasel
@DoktorWeasel 7 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, I actually just linked to the same sword, although the page in the guy's collection as opposed to this discussion page. I deleted it because your link is better and more complete. It really is a beautiful sword, and I think the only reproduction of one I've seen. I also find the blade geometry quite interesting.
@grayblackhelm6468
@grayblackhelm6468 7 жыл бұрын
Now THAT. Is freakin cool.
@EzioIlMentore
@EzioIlMentore 7 жыл бұрын
You see those warriors from Switzerland?
@fomoran
@fomoran 7 жыл бұрын
the ones who used to get a bit confrontational were shipped off to the vatican, forever to humiliated by wearing silly uniforms, a shame to their race (unless you think other more recent war-adjacent actions of the swiss possibly more worthy of shame...)
@creme8338
@creme8338 7 жыл бұрын
well its alright i guess but we're really all just subscribed for the estoc video. lets do it!
@Duchess_Van_Hoof
@Duchess_Van_Hoof 7 жыл бұрын
So they do exist!
@benm5913
@benm5913 7 жыл бұрын
Can we all ignore the title screw up and laugh at THE NODs return? Lol.
@plortpumper5495
@plortpumper5495 7 жыл бұрын
What would be the fighting style of this weapon?
@shrekas2966
@shrekas2966 7 жыл бұрын
What are the UK sword laws? Can i buy a sword here without a license?
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 7 жыл бұрын
Yes you can buy one if you're over 18, so long as it's not curved and over 50cm blade length (then you need martial arts or reenactment membership/insurance).
@shrekas2966
@shrekas2966 7 жыл бұрын
scholagladiatoria Lol whats the problem with curvature. By the way, it has to be less than 50 cm on its own or just under 50 cm if its curved?
@thedanksun9486
@thedanksun9486 7 жыл бұрын
I have a repro of this in the making! :D
@ballerlarva4214
@ballerlarva4214 7 жыл бұрын
How much did that set you back and where did you get it?
@thedanksun9486
@thedanksun9486 7 жыл бұрын
Baller Larva Mine isn't done yet, only the blade is ready. As for where, I used a custom smith Andrzej Mikiciak. As for the price, I dont want to go into details, but depending to what smith you go these go for thousands. That being said, only a handful of smiths can make it, and thats why these are hard to come by. If you want one just for the looks then LUTEL handicraft offers a budget version. It laks the finese of the original, but is significantly cheaper and well-made enough to be usable and functional
@mirzasahinkaya
@mirzasahinkaya 7 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Kilij literally means sword (and all types of sword) in Turkish.
@mikefelix238
@mikefelix238 3 жыл бұрын
I want one!
@xiezicong
@xiezicong 7 жыл бұрын
*big nod* . . *short nod through glass reflection in the beginning of the video* . . . . . *short nod caught by edge of camera* *nods nods nods* *nods nods nods* ♥
@Mythicalmage
@Mythicalmage 7 жыл бұрын
Such a cool sword. ^.^
@hector_2999
@hector_2999 7 жыл бұрын
All those codpiece jokes are lost now, like tears in the rain.
@fomoran
@fomoran 7 жыл бұрын
for the kind of person likely to enjoy this channel there are clues to be found if you care to look for them. We have patterns backing up suggested explanations and even a probable primary written source from the author.
@bearwithbeer1518
@bearwithbeer1518 4 жыл бұрын
We need more swiss sabers in hema :D
@Ken19700
@Ken19700 7 жыл бұрын
Were there any treatises written for the Swiss Sabre?
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 7 жыл бұрын
No
@DoktorWeasel
@DoktorWeasel 7 жыл бұрын
I think the general idea is just use it like a longsword, although with one edge rather than two.
@mlewis3871
@mlewis3871 7 жыл бұрын
Is the leather on the grip original to that Swiss Saber?
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 7 жыл бұрын
Yes I believe so.
@mlewis3871
@mlewis3871 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome, it's in great condition.
@Barberserk
@Barberserk 7 жыл бұрын
Lots of mascots on the channel lately. :P
@ivepesusic8792
@ivepesusic8792 4 жыл бұрын
Third sword from the left have something that looks like dmg done by bullet 🤔🤔🤔
@Jdmsword14
@Jdmsword14 7 жыл бұрын
love it
@krystofdayne
@krystofdayne 7 жыл бұрын
You really are at the Wallace Collection like at least once a week, aren't you?
@AGermanFencer
@AGermanFencer 7 жыл бұрын
Weird Augusto didnt know about those.
@dundschannel
@dundschannel 7 жыл бұрын
Was this a civilian sword ?
@electronkaleidoscope5860
@electronkaleidoscope5860 7 жыл бұрын
The old switcharoo
@yukiminsan
@yukiminsan 7 жыл бұрын
serious question: why call it a sabre if there's no way to use it but like a longsword
@SpecArch96
@SpecArch96 7 жыл бұрын
Hermes The blade. It is single edged and curved, like a sabre. Contemporary folk probably would have called it something else (maybe just langeschwert, seeing as they spoke german). Keep in mind that there ARE swiss sabres with one handed grips, which would've been called a Dusack at the time.
@MadNumForce
@MadNumForce 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, the hilt pretty much prevents from using it like a typical longsword. It's certainly not like saber or broasword either, because it's really two handed. My bet is it would be best used with kenjutsu/kendo methods. It's a sort of european version of the katana, only with much better hand protection, and longer blade.
@FlavioLanfranconi
@FlavioLanfranconi 7 жыл бұрын
Souces suggest hey were probably called "Schnepf" at the time. After the form of the break of the bird with the same name. The name Swissaber was introduced by a swiss curator in the last century. Will post the link to the source when i found it again (in german).
@ZhouTie47
@ZhouTie47 7 жыл бұрын
MadNumForce Honestly thats what my inexperienced mind turned to when I heard “saber blade with a longsword style grip. I also can’t imagine using it in anyway but japanese style fencing with the way that guard would restrict your hands.
@psygrit
@psygrit 7 жыл бұрын
GIMME A SWISS SABER VIDEO!!!
@beaucrawford538
@beaucrawford538 6 жыл бұрын
I like, I like!
@владимирмоскаленко-щ8д
@владимирмоскаленко-щ8д 4 жыл бұрын
да.одна рука мастера. выдают за старину древнюю.
@erojerisiz1571
@erojerisiz1571 3 жыл бұрын
Swiss saber: Saber blade Rapier hilt Longsword length
@beardedbjorn5520
@beardedbjorn5520 7 жыл бұрын
Just for every body asking where are the Cod Pieces, they’re wearing them.
@SergMuller
@SergMuller 7 жыл бұрын
Two-handed sabre? So it's a european no-dachi!
@brandonf5876
@brandonf5876 7 жыл бұрын
Rather like a kyu-gunto Japanese sword.
@adrianjagmag
@adrianjagmag 6 жыл бұрын
Someone repro this, I'm in love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (!^n)!
@TanitAkavirius
@TanitAkavirius 7 жыл бұрын
Clickbait title. There were no codpieces in this video ;)
@Greensleeve11
@Greensleeve11 7 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite swords of all time. That specific example, that is.
@feelz_4_dayz885
@feelz_4_dayz885 7 жыл бұрын
so its like a western katana?
@asahearts1
@asahearts1 7 жыл бұрын
Still a better sword than the katana.
@wchi8391
@wchi8391 7 жыл бұрын
Abradolph Lincler stop ✋ hating on katana
@fomoran
@fomoran 7 жыл бұрын
typical windows fanboy, nobody wants to use your stupid search interface!
@littleratblue
@littleratblue 7 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or did that have nothing to do with armoured codpieces?
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 7 жыл бұрын
My error.
@SirDamned
@SirDamned 2 жыл бұрын
Shame when I went here during covid they had all this sectioned off
@yvranx
@yvranx 7 жыл бұрын
WHERE ARE THE CODPIECES! I DEMAND TO SEE CODPIECES!!11!!!1!
@evillimey6965
@evillimey6965 7 жыл бұрын
That's one painful cod piece
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