ZOE Expert - First Charge

[@zahrahussain7895]

I put my Zoe on charge at a home pod point for 4 hours but it didn’t charge at all and I can’t understand why

[@EdwardJones-gj6mp]

My Zoe ZE40 has a problem charging and this happened from the very first charge. Does anyone know anything about problems with charging that fits this pattern: If I plug in my Zoe after driving, it will fail to charge after about 2 to 3 hours, pause for about 8 hours, then restart charging and charge to full. On the other hand, at the first time if I charge it for about 2 kWh then drive it in and out of the garage, put it back on charge the second charge will continue uninterrupted. It seems that if the car rests before putting it onto charge, then it stands a better chance of charging to full (but I am not completely sure about this working reliably yet). Does anyone have any ideas about what might be going on? Renault UK are only interested in finding a way to show that it can charge, but I know the inconvenient ways in which it can charge and I need to know why it can't charge reliably on the first charge after being driven. Others have this problem, so it is a known problem with the ZE40, even if Renault UK are trying their best to say that it is not. If you encounter unexpected ends of charge, ensure that any testing is done in exactly the same conditions of charge that you follow and do not allow the diagnosing dealer to leave the car resting when you take it to them to test charging.

[@jeanpierregrech3380]

How can I charge a Zoe since Renault decided not to sell or let us rent a battery for a UK second hand import in other countries?

[@martinwinlow]

Confusing message - You have imported a UK Zoe to another EU country... without a battery? Wyh would you do that? If so, buy a battery from a salvage Zoe?

[@jeanpierregrech3380]

I want to import a Zoe. Locally, there is only the top model available from 27,000 euros (Which includes reduction of maximum grants). I saw a lot of second hand Zoe being sold in the UK, which are nearly new and can cost me around 5,000 euros with the government grants for EVs. Though, there is one major problem. Most of these vehicles are sold without batteries which require leasing, and those which are sold with batteries require a new battery one time or another. I talked to local importers of Renault and told me that the manufacturer (Renault) does not let them lease or sell batteries to Renault EVs which are registered in another country. I also checked with Renault France and they told me the same thing. It is very disappointing and frustrating as the Zoe is the best EV out there which has good aesthetics and is small in size. Local second hand EV market is non-existant at this time.

[@rese2001ify]

How can I do that!

[@rapcontest18]

Bouuuuui!!!!!

[@creuzasilva989]

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[@niceboy60]

We are not being told the full story about electric cars !!! such as 1-Battery degradation 2-Ideal Operating Temperatures 3- Idle kw consumption ( I mean can you leave a zoe for few days at the airport and comeback find the battery exactly how you left it ??? 4- Depreciation costs ( 14 months Old Zoes cost 6k ) thats a 16k loss

[@DenianArcoleo]

That seems to be the beauty of the Renault battery lease idea. If the battery efficiency falls below 80% Renault will replace it free of charge.

[@cbflazaro]

wonder how you lose 16k on a car that doesn't cost 16k.

[@wojciechmuras553]

I can tell first-hand about some of these concerns. I have a Nissan Leaf, the closest competitor to Zoe. 1. Degradation. Yeah, it happens. If it's abnormally fast you get your battery replaced tho. My almost 4 years old Leaf has 90% of its original capacity - and Zoes degrade slower thanks to an advanced battery cooling system. 2. Temperatures. Again, true. In summer I get 160 km easy from my 30 KWh Leaf battery. In winter that's closer to 120 km. That's just chemistry. It's a bummer, but not a secret. 3. Idle consumption. It's negligible. I've left my Leaf at 80% at the airport parking for 2 weeks, came back to about 70%. Don't remember the exact number, but I'd be more concerned about the 12V battery going flat in a gasoline car. 4. Depreciation. Zoes in particular seem to lose value insanely quickly. That's an illusion - it's not due to the car depreciating - it's because of the optional battery lease contacts. Those super-cheap cars you see for sale require regular payments to Renault to keep running, while sticker prices on new Zoes include your own, personal battery, which you don't have to pay lease on. That's why there's such a difference. Depreciation on EVs isn't that much different from normal cars. A new Zoe costs €25k where I live, €22k after tax incentives. 1-2 years old Zoes with batteries cost some €17-18k. Not terrible.