Renovation Pruning an Old Apple Tree

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MSU Upper Peninsula Research and Extension Center

MSU Upper Peninsula Research and Extension Center

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@bob_frazier
@bob_frazier 9 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be interesting to revisit this tree a few more times? Would love to see what kind of apple it is!
@2brnt2b
@2brnt2b 2 ай бұрын
Great pruner and hats off to the camera man/editor. Totally enjoy watching and can watch some more.
@t0kinl3lunts
@t0kinl3lunts 11 ай бұрын
Your editor did a great job keeping info in while making the video as short as possible!
@cynthiacollins2668
@cynthiacollins2668 Жыл бұрын
I have a 30+ year old tree that has never been pruned much. Last year, one of my my sons cut some out. With your video, I think I will be brave enough to do some serious pruning on it! Thank you!
@vivians3696
@vivians3696 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing us how to prune a very overgrown apple tree. I thought my apple tree was overgrown but yours was pretty darn overgrown so I’m gonna get to work on mine soon. It’s February now in Northwest New Jersey thank you.
@vf5126
@vf5126 9 ай бұрын
A joy to watch! A ‘fine’ fruit tree pruner myself, having pruned around 20 trees just yesterday ..I had to check what KZbin’s recently posted … and it took me till yours to feel satisfied 🙂 Loved the commentary, and a job well done.
@ionmeta6100
@ionmeta6100 11 ай бұрын
Wow. That was fantastic to see how aggressive you were with your pruning. Makes me much more confident about the choices I have been making with my trees. Thank you. ✨🙏✨
@kahvac
@kahvac 10 ай бұрын
He took off much more than 30% he'll be fighting water sprouts for the next few years !
@ionmeta6100
@ionmeta6100 10 ай бұрын
Yeh, I imagine so. I hope he posts what it looks like the following year. With even what I would consider a very aggressive pruning I take less than half of what he did.@@kahvac
@kahvac
@kahvac 10 ай бұрын
I have a lot of apple trees ...years ago I pruned off about 60% I had water sprouts everywhere nothing but a problem with vertical growth. Took me a few years for it to settle down.@@ionmeta6100
@vf5126
@vf5126 9 ай бұрын
My only concern is sun-scald on top of the large, newly exposed limbs.. Other than that, I’ve done the same. You can climb into that tree around mid July and snap off watershoots by hand; they’ll heal instantly. By leaving the best positioned shoots, next seasons pruning will nearly be taken care of 🙂
@rickschulte8594
@rickschulte8594 10 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this, I have a large old tree coming to do for my Nephew, you helped me have some thought I did not have, thank you
@fala2587
@fala2587 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for great pruning presentation, tools you have used and all wise advices . I am going to do similar pruning old apple trees in my garden in February/ March when weather will be sunny , not wet.
@waynebranson3059
@waynebranson3059 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this excellent video! My friend has many fruit trees that have not been pruned in many years. Thanks to you, I will get started pruning with confidence.
@beretaspaas8161
@beretaspaas8161 9 ай бұрын
Love the insight into how an experienced grower deal with a tree that needs to be helped to a new mode. I am now on to next video what happens the next year. I learn a lot.
@manyourcoolchris
@manyourcoolchris 9 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you! I just bought a property with 7 fruit trees. I'm a completely bigginer to fruit trees and this was immensely helpful.
@fredla7353
@fredla7353 9 ай бұрын
Excellent information! Exactly why I clicked on this video! Thank you! Spot on and to the point. I have pruned my old trees for years, but stopped 5 years ago. My main concern was over pruning. Looks like that is not an issue [within reason].
@robertqueberg4612
@robertqueberg4612 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for a very nice field trip to the apple tree. There have been many changes in the fruit growing methods in the past hundred years. When you drive past a commercial apple orchard, most of the trees are not “shade tree pretty”. They are fruit trees, developed and later pruned to be healthy and productive. It is the flush of water sprouts that come from this type of corrective pruning, that causes some people to lose interest, or think that they can’t do it. As you stated, this is only the beginning of the reclamation process.
@yossarianmnichols9641
@yossarianmnichols9641 10 ай бұрын
Excellent tutorial, much needed
@dfu1685
@dfu1685 4 ай бұрын
I agree with your pruning style AND FANTASTIC LOOKING TREE STRUCTURE! If I were larger man it could be a bonsai!!! But seriously, very nice work! Thank you for taking the time and detail to show the viewer.
@Ezmoshe1
@Ezmoshe1 Жыл бұрын
I really liked this pruning video. Well done.
@dlutkins9
@dlutkins9 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video, very informative and well presented. Thank you!
@FMZweierkette
@FMZweierkette 10 ай бұрын
Would love to see the tree now, one year later.
@antares3796
@antares3796 10 ай бұрын
It is clear, that hundreds of upright branches will come this year because of the radical way he was pruning these trees. I made many trees and one rule is to cut a maximum of one third, but here he did much more than that. Next year he will have the next problem to handle all the new branches. Our rule to handle such old trees is to do it within three years and not in one. Greetings from Germany
@kahvac
@kahvac 10 ай бұрын
That's true he'll have nothing but water sprouts and will be fighting the vertical growth for years !@@antares3796
@FMZweierkette
@FMZweierkette 10 ай бұрын
@@antares3796 Danke sehr :)
@oh_k8
@oh_k8 9 ай бұрын
Very nice work!
@kqclund
@kqclund Жыл бұрын
Will you please shoot another short video of this tree? I'm dying to see the after math
@antares3796
@antares3796 10 ай бұрын
It is clear, that hundreds of upright branches will come in the next year because of the radical way he was pruning these trees. I made many trees and one rule is to cut a maximum of one third, but here he did much more than that. Next year he will have the next problem to handle all the new branches. Our rule to handle such old trees is to do it within three years and not in one. Greetings from Germany
@BeatFiction
@BeatFiction 9 ай бұрын
same
@vf5126
@vf5126 9 ай бұрын
@@antares3796 Americans don’t waste time, only resources 😀 If the tree’s cared for, someone will hop inside around mid July and snap off the unnecessary watershoots.. It’s kinda fun!
@AbdulQadeerKhan-d1w
@AbdulQadeerKhan-d1w 5 сағат бұрын
Blessed is a tree which can host the birds 🦜🕊️
@zanylewis6653
@zanylewis6653 5 күн бұрын
Is there an update you can provide a link to? Was very interesting to watch. Thanks!
@sailorgirl2017
@sailorgirl2017 9 ай бұрын
We just bought a lot with an old apple that looks much like that. Now I have an idea what to do. Thank you.
@oh_k8
@oh_k8 9 ай бұрын
He didn't show this part but he does mention it, when the tree starts to leaf out in a month or so, it's going to try and regrow many branches that got cut off at once, you can go in at that point and just rub those new growths out with your gloved hand. That will save you from having to cut off the regrown watersprouts with tools out the next year.
@murraykriner9425
@murraykriner9425 Жыл бұрын
Wish to know how your efforts turned out after a couple seasons. Always so hard to tell the impact we have when the management has been left so long, as this volunteer had been sitting.
@mcguireg
@mcguireg 11 ай бұрын
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@deltorres2100
@deltorres2100 11 ай бұрын
I totally love that I’m getting mine pruned soon. It’s just too hard to pick fruit. We got 200 pounds of Asian pears last year but it was very difficult. It’s it’s overgrown. It looked like that so I need a lot of work done. I need it to where I can easily harvest the pairs, but I my question is do you have a video of this year after like what it looks like now please make one or put a link in these comments
@radharcanna
@radharcanna Жыл бұрын
That’s a beautiful pruning job. The tree looks great.
@CriaAndKiddFW
@CriaAndKiddFW 11 ай бұрын
I have a few of these on the forclosure property I bought last summer. Thanks for the video!
@MiltonWarmikael-o1m
@MiltonWarmikael-o1m 3 ай бұрын
The trick to slow down vegetative vigor is prune right as the flower buds are blooming. This one had a ton of suckers growth after no doubt.
@mariusmarius4832
@mariusmarius4832 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, enjoyed watching that
@dialarkingsley3924
@dialarkingsley3924 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great instructions and video. We have three very overgrown trees in Ontario, Canada (Toronto area) a delicious, early yellow summer and not sure about the third, possibly a macintosh. The apples usually end up in the compost pile. We love the trees for shade and privacy, plus they attract the baltimore orioles and the cardinals love them for shelter and the long tall branches to perch on. Going to give your techniques a try next early spring (Feb 2024) and see what happens. Can't find your email as mentioned but would love the pattern for your apple picking ladder. Tx.
@vf5126
@vf5126 9 ай бұрын
He really brought this tree down, more so for human harvesting. If wildlife is your major concern, you might leave some higher, yet ‘lateral’ branches..
@dmansurd
@dmansurd 10 ай бұрын
DeWalt makes a really nice 8-inch electric chainsaw. I used it on our trees for the first time this year and it was AWESOME for speeding up the big cuts !!!!
@vf5126
@vf5126 9 ай бұрын
I prune fruit trees, and occasionally use a chainsaw, but unlike cutting firewood at arms length … inside a tight tree, often working at ‘neck height,’ for a beginner.. I’d highly advise against it.
@joeyhardin1288
@joeyhardin1288 10 ай бұрын
Thank you. God Bless, stay safe and warm.
@erinl7376
@erinl7376 5 ай бұрын
You’re a legend Jim.
@qosimbek4436
@qosimbek4436 21 күн бұрын
Good video. Should that be done in Winter, cold days?
@CBeeman1988
@CBeeman1988 9 ай бұрын
How do I get a hold of you guys? I'm MSU alum and would run my own fruit tree pruning business. I've spent thousands of hours working for the biggest orchard in SE Michigan and would very much like to get in touch.
@falconbritt5461
@falconbritt5461 7 ай бұрын
Not to question your expertise, I'm just a bit confused. Had seen somewhere that we shouldn't cut more than 1/3 of a tree off in a single year. What are your thoughts? This looks like more than 1/3.
@DivinityinLove
@DivinityinLove Жыл бұрын
Great job! Very detailed. Thank you. I have a huge tree to do on my allotment. Lol wish me luck!
@MikeBurns-bi5xj
@MikeBurns-bi5xj Жыл бұрын
After u prune the apple tree did it produces big beautiful apples
@geoffmccoll4640
@geoffmccoll4640 10 ай бұрын
Is there a spring image of this apple tree in the USA.?
@ranger178
@ranger178 4 ай бұрын
i have one that was set up as an espalier tree with main branches in two directions along fence but i let it grow too much and it is up in power lines and out over lawn how much can i prune of the tree without harming it ?
@sharit7970
@sharit7970 5 ай бұрын
very informative, thanks for sharing!
@MrMiker47
@MrMiker47 4 ай бұрын
I am a little late to the channel. Do you still have the plans for the wood orchard ladder?? Thank you!!
@markhumphrey8894
@markhumphrey8894 9 ай бұрын
The Google Earth Map still shows the unpruned tree. How is doing now? Thanks for posting. Just did 2 days of pruning Ida Red apple trees at an Apple Orchard on Lake Ontario. Fire Blight on some of the trees. I see why they call it that. Looks like it was burned and its black. Love volunteering there.
@stettenfarms
@stettenfarms 7 ай бұрын
My apple tree is about 7yrs old, 25'tall,beautifully shaped but, i cant even reach the lowest branches. Is there any way i can force it to grow lower branches that i can reach? Or is it too late
@thechaosgardener
@thechaosgardener 10 ай бұрын
I would have just topped it. Strange people think this is extreme. I had 10 50 year old apple trees I cut them down to 3 foot stumps and topworked choice scions into them last year. They are doing amazing
@AbdulQadeerKhan-d1w
@AbdulQadeerKhan-d1w 5 сағат бұрын
Impressve show👍
@tcsadt
@tcsadt 11 ай бұрын
So much for “don’t remove more than 1/3 to 40% of the tree” that you said at 0:50 of the video.
@marklam8548
@marklam8548 10 ай бұрын
Yes ...He butchered that tree he will barely get a half bushel of apples and it will grow back superfast unruly growth no more apples for 3 years.😮😢
@vf5126
@vf5126 9 ай бұрын
That old tree was headed for death, now it’s got much to live for. The tree was not butchered, that was an excellent job! It wasn’t a commercial tree, so production is of little concern. But give it a couple years - wow, little to no thinning, excellent sun infiltration and air circulation.. I’ve lived, and taught this stuff, and though it nearly wore me out ..twas a joy to watch 🙂
@flyingcountryboy
@flyingcountryboy 9 ай бұрын
Nice work. I always scalp them and watch them come back
@srenhjorth4114
@srenhjorth4114 Жыл бұрын
Great job, best video i seen on yt
@gavanwhatever8196
@gavanwhatever8196 Ай бұрын
I wish I had your confidence... I'm looking at an orchard of about 50 trees overgrown to this level and even worse. Plus a stepmother who hates change... She'd prefer to see old, overgrown, diseased trees than deal with the changes that a good prune would bring.
@vincebusinelle886
@vincebusinelle886 4 ай бұрын
How do you get the worms out the tree.😮
@AbdulQadeerKhan-d1w
@AbdulQadeerKhan-d1w 4 сағат бұрын
My plum & apple trees have ceased to fruit, as a consequence of wrong pruning¿😮
@rebeccabeasley9624
@rebeccabeasley9624 8 ай бұрын
Very informative, thank u
@SusanPhillips-is5ox
@SusanPhillips-is5ox 7 ай бұрын
Fabulous! Excellent! Terrific demo. Well conveyed! Excellent, knowledgeable expert! AI can't do it as well. Craft is art. Learn from the best artist. 23:23
@gregridgeway8790
@gregridgeway8790 9 ай бұрын
I was pretty skeptical when you snowed up with a bucket of bow saws because as an arborist, I consider them to be completely obsolete and useless however, skipping to the end to see the results of your work I'd say you did a really fine job of pruning that old apple tree.
@jessicamcintosh231
@jessicamcintosh231 Ай бұрын
Can you save apple trimmings for rabbits?
@SuperGarden78
@SuperGarden78 10 ай бұрын
I prune fruit trees all day long from about March to October, I never seen the need to prune that hard. If you want a calmer regrowth on the older trees, prune hard in the summer to early fall.
@vf5126
@vf5126 9 ай бұрын
Physically removing that much material in summer would likely defoliate whatever’s left.. It’s true that you’d be robbing the roots, thus less growth the following season ..and perhaps a decaying root system.
@lauracoussens6207
@lauracoussens6207 10 ай бұрын
What about the rule to not prune back more than 40% in one year? And...with all due respect...I am a bit confused. That tree looked like it grew vigorously and so why prune it so far back just to get it to grow vigorously again? How much fruit did it produce before being extremely pruned? If it's healthy and old, why not let it be? Or, just prune a little out of the center?
@vf5126
@vf5126 9 ай бұрын
It wasn’t healthy, it was severely neglected.. You don’t see many ‘standing orchards’ anymore, most are trellis-trained for mechanical harvesting. This tree was a disease repository, especially on the East Coast (humidity). The tree (possibly 2 trees, as mentioned) will soon produce larger, cleaner, and if cared for, more usable fruit that it’s recently known..
@helentc
@helentc 9 ай бұрын
I'm with you! That was way too hard a prune. Puts the tree into shock...then massive re-growth....which requires a lot more pruning hours.
@kingjames4886
@kingjames4886 9 ай бұрын
how did this tree manage to grow in a MSU field without someone either removing or tending to it? I imagine there must be random trees coming up all the time that they remove?
@necthar123go
@necthar123go 9 ай бұрын
I’d love to see the tree and 1 years after.
@julieinid1
@julieinid1 2 ай бұрын
There's a video of it in the channel
@rnggall9640
@rnggall9640 10 ай бұрын
Very informative, I hope you take out the background music in future videos, very distracting
@Braham_the_Terror
@Braham_the_Terror 3 ай бұрын
Can you update us on this tree?
@julieinid1
@julieinid1 2 ай бұрын
There's an update on the channel
@xli1059
@xli1059 5 ай бұрын
👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️
@Jonathan-rz8jk
@Jonathan-rz8jk Жыл бұрын
At the start of the video he says " 40 % of the tree needs pruning but he cuts out 90% 😳😳
@adriansprawka4109
@adriansprawka4109 Жыл бұрын
He made too much disproportion between leaves and roots system at once.
@marklam8548
@marklam8548 Жыл бұрын
He go a happy little groove going😅.! To bad for the tree and that years apple crop . 1 tenth of the growth was left.😮
@saltriverorchards4190
@saltriverorchards4190 10 ай бұрын
That tree will be just fine as long as he keeps up with removing the water sprouts or pulling them down and making them new fruiting wood. Orchards do this kind of pruning all the time and it’s not as damaging as you might think. The 30% rule is simply a guideline and makes it a comfortable amount for someone especially if you’re pruning someone else’s tree and you don’t want them mad at you for “destroying” their tree.
@joelyamasaki7780
@joelyamasaki7780 Жыл бұрын
Wheee can I get the plans for that great ladder? Thank you
@vf5126
@vf5126 9 ай бұрын
Get yourself a lightweight aluminum ‘Tallman’ ladder.. Mine’s lived outside for 35 years, they’ll last forever. Many sizes, 8 ft’s my favorite 🙂
@lanceromance6793
@lanceromance6793 9 ай бұрын
#1 rule taught to me by a skilled arborist: Trim the tree, not the branch.
@ihus9950
@ihus9950 Ай бұрын
👍🏻
@BeatFiction
@BeatFiction 9 ай бұрын
that hurts
@Sten-Hansen
@Sten-Hansen 10 ай бұрын
Hallo from Denmark Thats a very god vork 🌳👍🏼👍🏼
@geoffmccoll4640
@geoffmccoll4640 10 ай бұрын
Many plants like a good prune. if this was not the case we would not have to mow our lawns as much
@helentc
@helentc 9 ай бұрын
What kind of logic is that!? That makes no sense. The grass doesn't want or need us to mow it.
@Boomer_in_the_Trees
@Boomer_in_the_Trees 7 күн бұрын
@@helentc Well its grass so it doesn't "want" anything its not cognizant. But it does "need" us to mow it. If you don't mow your grass, it grows tall, then it lops over from the weight, which in turn blocks the sunlight from its base and adjacent blades of grass, each one blocking the next killing it. If your grass is going to live, then you need to mow it.
@just1ivopiratini318
@just1ivopiratini318 Жыл бұрын
Last night Nov 10th 2023 whilst watch I got for short time on UKs Channel 4 as I have done for a few months,for the first time in a few months exclusively all electric cars were not advertised. The tide is changing! 👏👏👏
@edwardmyers3244
@edwardmyers3244 9 ай бұрын
looks like more than 40 percent. no?
@dr.greenthumb6535
@dr.greenthumb6535 Жыл бұрын
Why are you hanging around in that tree? 😮
@letbeyummy9688
@letbeyummy9688 9 ай бұрын
I agree shud not remove more than twenty present on this tree
@janehilbery6596
@janehilbery6596 9 ай бұрын
You have wrecked this tree
@garethwatkins8854
@garethwatkins8854 10 ай бұрын
What happened to taking 40% at the most, you’ve gone way further, 😢
@nelusandor
@nelusandor 11 ай бұрын
you kill it! Never cut more than 30 percent each year. You need 3 years to corect that tree, u did it at once...
@cloudnx147
@cloudnx147 10 ай бұрын
We were taught to not “whip the tree into shape” considering it’s probably weak, diseased and old. Only remove 15-25% the first year, and subsequent years because the tree can go into shock and die. There’s nothing wrong with making large cuts as the tree will seal the wound very quickly. But yeah, you took off easily 75%, which might work for this tree but is not the norm for such old trees.
@ergu7811
@ergu7811 2 ай бұрын
Way too aggressive.
@tisoy909
@tisoy909 9 ай бұрын
5 minutes showing off your saws, are you kidding man?
@erwinbrubacker7488
@erwinbrubacker7488 6 ай бұрын
50% removel, I trust that tree does not go into juvenile state. If she flowers & bears fruit, you should be ok.
@trumpetflowerII
@trumpetflowerII 11 ай бұрын
OMG! The work done is in the area of removing the tree and starting again, but from the first day, train the tree. What you have done is enough to shorten the tree's life, and, If that's what was intended, you did a good job. People who seek knowledge never ask if what you demonstrate is beneficial. When I saw what you were doing, I knew you knew a little, but not much. Just so that you don't feel picked on, I also disrespect so-called arborists who are badly trained and don't think about the harm they do; you know, it's just business. IF you want to improve, I suggest you buy the book Arboriculture by Prof. Richard Harris. First, find the chapter on wounds and then you might see how much irreparable damage you did to that apple tree. Follow the science and improve.
@vf5126
@vf5126 9 ай бұрын
Twixt him & I ..we’d no doubt have a century of pruning experience. Books? Yah, lots of them. Experience, a totally different thing.. At age 28 I inherited the family homestead, with five generations of orchardists and lots of full-sized 80+ year old apple & pear trees. I went to town! Later, I taught advanced grafting & fruit tree pruning for our State Extension Service. This guy salvaged a tree most would have dozed to the burn pile. ..show some respect
@helentc
@helentc 9 ай бұрын
@trumpetflowerll Despite what some have said, you are showing respect, to the Trees!! Those who view it only as a business, have cavalier attitudes towards life. I will look into the book you suggest as I have some major restoration work to do and prefer to give the Trees respect and time to adjust & heal.
@nickstevens885
@nickstevens885 9 ай бұрын
Stop man you kill the tree
@notimportant6506
@notimportant6506 9 ай бұрын
You pruned to much off
@terrisweet
@terrisweet 10 ай бұрын
Agreed, horrible pruning job.
@hanswerner6527
@hanswerner6527 11 ай бұрын
Absolut horrible pruning, its ruining the tree. The large wounds will never complete heal and removing that much wood at ones will kick the tree out of balance.
@juneramirez8580
@juneramirez8580 10 ай бұрын
I have to disagree with you. The tree was very overgrown. You wouldn't do such a severe cutting very often, I feel he did a really good job. He can come back next year and shape it more. I cut back a really big fig tree in two years time so as not to shock the tree too much. I wanted it smaller so I can cover it to prevent the birds from getting all the figs before I could.
@hanswerner6527
@hanswerner6527 10 ай бұрын
@@juneramirez8580 You should never do such a servere cutting, its better to do this in 2-3 steps an years, so the tree is not falling in imbalance and reacting with many water sprouts. The amount of wounds to heal after each pruning would also be less and better to handle for the tree.
@Mangold2865
@Mangold2865 10 ай бұрын
Definitely not going to “ruin the tree”
@djames2377
@djames2377 10 ай бұрын
Nice to hear people comment on trees when they have never done that pruning done it in my orchard of over 60 trees so let us experts do it our way
@saltriverorchards4190
@saltriverorchards4190 10 ай бұрын
I disagree. I would’ve done the exact same thing he did with that tree. I have over 160 trees and my one regret was not being more aggressive with them as far as pruning when they were younger. This tree should’ve been aggressively pruned its entire life and then these big cuts wouldn’t have had to be made. Not all trees are the same and each one will require a different approach.
@joepa6106
@joepa6106 18 күн бұрын
Can we get an update for 2024 ???
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