Repairing New Holland baler crankshafts. Part 2

[@OFW]

Thank you everyone for mentioning me. I do like the S power system and the more I use it the better it becomes. And another great video from Snowball Engineering! The world would fall apart without guys like us!

[@RalfyCustoms]

Too true buddy

[@daveA2024]

A good shout-out to On Fire Welding for taking the time to thank the people who mentioned him here, it's very nice to see that some KZbinrs appreciate their audience. Too many see it as a way to increase their profits and care little or nothing about the people who watch their channel.

[@Watchyn_Yarwood]

Two of my favorite YT creators, OFW and Snowball!!

[@daveA2024]

@@Watchyn_Yarwood You have impeccable taste, my friend.

[@rogerdeane3608]

Oliver, you should be proud of your work. You are so patient and persistent in achieving perfection. Not many people these days would be bothered to go to such lengths the repair that crank. I'm surprised you don't have a lot more subscribers.

[@fredscheerle7592]

Your such a perfectionist and my favorite ahead of IC weld, I did start off watching Cutting edge but the excessive F&C words Lost Me! The Farmer/ Contactor Must Grease Regularly, Right.

[@RalfyCustoms]

Completely and absolutely agree mate

[@Watchyn_Yarwood]

@@fredscheerle7592 Do as I. Stop the vid at the end before it fades to the outtakes.

[@WombleUK]

Full credit for not editing out when you make a mistake, that's the difference between people actually doing real world work & the KZbinrs with an editing team who show then making perfect projects everytime in immaculate workshops that you can tell have never been used to any real work. Also even Clint at C&C Equipment didn't splash out on the same Line Boring kit as Kurtis I think he went for some Italian machine. But Clint & Kurtis can justify spending out on expensive kit with the heavy equipment they repair on a weekly basis £15k vs £3k is a massive difference for a small one man workshop.

[@ronbuckner8179]

We don’t know how much these kits cost them. There in the states there are multiple suppliers that all market merchandise and some might help along with the actual manufactures. In England that maybe the case, I don’t know.

[@shirleyraymond9703]

Twenty years a tool and die maker,you did great. Best of luck!

[@timj1157]

Good video again! You show all the real world problems. I have been working for 40 years and people keep saying “ oh I wouldn’t do it like that “ yes and there job failed after a year or two ! I go back to my old old jobs and still sound ! Keep it up you do what you think 👍 from farmers boy Cornwall

[@Dalbayob69]

There will always be people who can do it with their eyes closed and hands behind their backs🤣 I wouldn’t even mention them, don’t give them the attention. And regarding balancing I think people don’t understand that this is farming equipment and not a nascar race engine crankshaft. Different levels of working speeds and tolerances. Really enjoyed watching this, that jig worked perfectly and you should be proud of the skill set you have.

[@roblonsdale8927]

That crank only runs at about 300 rpm and is under constantly variable loading as the crop passes under it hence why it does,nt have any balance weights on it from factory

[@gerardcallan5655]

Great job. Maybe a clip of the baler in action whenever it makes it to the field and show the fruits of your labour.

[@davidcoates2303]

What a great video Oliver, I’m not an engineer or work in that field but I watch in wonder while you work on the jig, it’s so well made a credit to you young sir and the problem solving is second to none. Keep well and take care of yourself.

[@johnharris5758]

Oliver, you underestimate yourself. Your work is outstanding, I only wish there were more people like you. You are a craftsman,well done. Best regards John, p/s keep the videos coming.

[@markhesselgreaves]

This is a very clever piece of engineering Oliver! Very clever indeed, I doubt that others will have thought of it, but this is engineering isn’t it? Often, time can be spent building a jig so that the job you want to do is a whole lot easier! First Class fabrication! Mark from Scotland 👍😎😀

[@chrislindquist2003]

Incredible job with that jig. People have no idea the time and work it takes to just set some stuff to repair it. Great job Oliver.

[@grahamkahabka66]

Brilliant work from planning to execution. Thank you for taking us along with you on this.

[@paulhammond7489]

Some of the runout on the crank could be attributed to the aftermath after the crank failed while it was operating inside the bailer. Considering how it will be used in the field (pun intended) I think the repaired crank will be fine... Ask the owner for feedback once he gets them re-assembled and operational, even if it's later in the season, me and the your other 42k subscribers will be more than interested :)

[@beesbo1856]

Right, could be slightly bent. And since that is not a new shaft he is measuring, could be just wear on the journal.

[@bobkelly2447]

Wow.... such precision work you do ! ....it's a bailer.... if it's within 1/4" it's going to be close enough to last forever ! you did great !

[@helmutzollner5496]

My Dad had an agricultural repair workshop. He also fixed hay bakers like that. Normal tolerances were 1mm tight tolerances were 0.1 mm. So, I really believe you pretty well placed with these tolerances. Also, I think that one of the reasons for the breaking of the journal in the first place could have been the runout as per factory. I think that you could go into fabrication of spare crank shafts, if they are no longer produced. With all that round stock you seem to have that idea already. Anyway, that jig was a real labour of love! Well done!

[@alshore6168]

Brilliant vid again Ollie, had to chuckle when you said about that commenter who could do it without a jig,probably without welding it as well !! 👍

[@mikehunt3222]

I don’t think that commenter knew how crankshafts work.

[@martinmeasures829]

I'm well impressed mate, well impressed, and the person that said he could rebuild that without a jig must be a magician and all those people do is try to fool others, nuff said. I wish I could like your videos a hundred times, cos I would, every one em,

[@mauricekeithjohnson2598]

The accuracy of aligning any crankshaft assembly is a mental fairyland for us weekend warriors ! Your explanation is thorough beyond belief !

[@mikehunt3222]

That crankshaft will be fine. People don’t realize it isn’t an engine crankshaft with very tight tolerances. Plus it doesn’t look like it was balanced from the factory. Very good repair.

[@daveA2024]

Hi Oliver, Once again your attention to detail and desire to produce the best result possible is admirable, the time and effort you put into building the jig paid obvious dividends in the quality of the repair, I sincerely hope you get more of these to repair, it would be a shame if you did not get the opportunity to make more use of the jig. Your absolute deadpan delivery of the "Would be rude not to buy one" line had me in stitches, classic Yorkshire humour at its best.

[@annettehewitson6426]

As woman I love your craft,and your video,very inspirational to others who doing the trade,women,men.

[@philipspencer1834]

Great work. Better than scrapping the balers. 👍 Hope other farmers bring their broken cranks in so that it becomes a good stream of business for you.

[@andrewrobinson2869]

Ing they could do it without a jig and actually doing it is 2 different things. Its the difference between someone who takes pride in there work like yourself and others who dont care but just weld. Great Job . Looks spot on. Regards Andy Australia

[@RossiDeakin0406]

.3mm tir in a welded assembly, bloody brilliant 👏👌

[@bobhudson6659]

Agreed. And he doesn't rate himself as a machinist - rubbish. Many machinists could not have worked this out. Sure they can make an item off a drawing but to design it from scratch and then devise a method to calibrate and machine it is above many machinist's pay grade, knowledge and skill. Retired fabricator/machinist/mechanic.

[@tomtd]

On Fire Welding has several line borers, he’s just got one of these and posted a great video just yesterday about it, seems to prefer it to the hydraulic Climax as it’s got good torque and is quieter. OFW used the stick out measure off his climax, I’ll bet you could get hold of one, or make a reasonable copy.. Great to see the businessman in you investing in your business, you will go far, you obviously know how to pace yourself in your working future. Power to your elbow, I’ll bet your Dad is so proud of you, I certainly would be, but like most dads they never show it.

[@stephenmeeks684]

You have developed a nice presentation style and your videos are well produced and edited. You are a pleasure to watch.

[@snowballengineering]

Thank you very much!

[@honkstafarian]

The way it's designed in the first place and the way you have it spinning it's pretty much balanced spot on. Some people don't really understand what they think they are talking about ;-0 ;-)

[@steve_weinrich]

Excellent job! I think you nailed it when you observed that the stands had movement when you were measuring the runout. It is likely bang on. I think you now qualify as a machinist.

[@dazzasnipes1911]

im not an engineer and have never used a line borer but those initial cuts looked pretty impressive the amount of material it was taking out

[@Diederik240]

This was undoubtedly a masterrepair you can be proud of, Oliver. For welding different workpiece materials or shafts of higher tensile strength, we use the Ugiweld 4370 wire with 98argon gas mix. They probably used similar filler material at CNH (or stainless 309). They undoubtedly also had the deformation after welding in the factory, they may have 'straightened' this out afterwards in the area of ​​the square tube with the flame torch, like Keith Fenner does when straightening shafts with the local heat pool shrinkage technique Thanks for the nice content video!

[@theessexhunter1305]

Don't question your work as it is very good, I have been doing it a long time and that is a good fix. They are not that good NEW

[@philhermetic]

Probably better than when they were new! Phil

[@caggius42]

I did wonder if you watched CEE. 3000 vs 15000 is agriculture vs precision. You bought what was right for the work you do and it looks a fair bit of kit for the money. Great channel keep up the good work.

[@daveharris5323]

don’t worry about about what some critics say about your work, I’ve been doing fabrication & welding most of my life & retired now, you do great at working things out & fixing things. Those will be absolutely fine for farm equipment as they don’t spin very fast.

[@leongrigson7390]

I guess your more Snowball Precise Engineering (SPE). With making a crankshaft jig and measurements always have to be precise. And always looking forward to your next instalment.

[@colinsmith6280]

This project is very interesting and involved ,but it's great to see you solve the problems and succeed , Keep up your good work

[@Paul-FrancisB]

Great work on getting the alignment as good as you can, probably better than the manufacturer. The comments above balancing that are comical, obviously thinking it is an engine part, possibly connected to connecting rods or the like rather than driving a set of fingers rakes that in addition to the straw can have whatever is lying in the field thrown at them, as well. Makes as much sense a suggestion that a tractor wheel needs putting on a balancing machine, maybe at the local Kwik fit 😁

[@mingthemerciless6855]

Oliver, once again, great problem solving and building skills. Whenever I had work done, the better shops would clean and paint rusted surfaces giving a proper finish. It would always impress me when shops would do that. Cheers.

[@bob-the-Millwright]

Those crankshafts are a repair shop nightmare. I think your repairs are spot on. I am impressed with the S Power line bore equipment, quiet and enough power to handle the task. I look forward to your videos and Thank you.

[@BrucePierson]

You sure make good use of that adjustable workbench (forklift). It helps with working at the best height for comfort.

[@andrewwilson3071]

Great job Oliver, Kurtis would be proud of that repair. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing with us.👍

[@lemmy9996]

Seconded!👍

[@TonyFromSydney]

All that good thinking you did made the jig turn out great, a real asset you got now. It looked good when you showed the machining on the thermal image screen. Thank you Oliver, a good job you did, and most entertaining video again as usual..

[@user-oi8tg3dq7t]

Nice work Oliver. Watching from Eastern Texas.

[@allenbrown7820]

Great job! Don’t worry about the other commenters. You are the one who had the tiger by the tail and done an excellent job ! Keep up the good work and Be Safe!

[@ianmckay1780]

Ollie, you are a genius. That looks as good, (if not better), than the original, Considering it's for a baler, that is, I would say, perfect for the job. As they say, only time will tell, hopefully you will have retired before seeing these again (except when the others go that is). Thanks for teaching me, what I don't ever want to work on! Given that I 'm retired myself, that will be never. Thanks from rural W. Berks.

[@davegills6969]

Great stuff Oliver. Really enjoy your videos. How you work round a problem. Top bloke. Keep those vids coming. Dave........Norwich uk

[@butchphillips873]

Fantastic result with so little runout. Probably less than factory. cheers, Butch.

[@geraldguyette470]

Your solution is as good as the factory piece , maybe better . Very fine work .

[@davidnaudi2601]

You could use an engine hoist using hoist to lift in place and you can organise all the tools for that awesome borer Nice work

[@stephenmeeks684]

Just because others do it doesn’t limit you from making improvements for your operations. Your creativity and intuition are your better assets.

[@richwielechowski5191]

Mighty fine repair, Oliver! Put the baler back together and head for the field! As others have said, would be interesting to hear an update on how the repair is performing in the field.

[@cukhust59]

Nice job on the scoop bucket

[@jn1ty]

Hopefully you will get a lot more of these to repair so you can use your jig. Great job.👍

[@alangrant9114]

That’s a lot of work went into that Ollie , hope you get plenty of referrals to use the jig , make it earn it’s keep😂

[@jeffdayman8183]

I wouldn't worry about that tiny bit of runout, for the reasons you mentioned but also the loads in use as varying amounts of hay/straw go through the machine. Sometimes big heavy slugs go through, other times just a wisp of material. The loads on the crank will change a lot due to load. Nice job! Cheers!

[@69dblcab]

A pleasure to watch your curious mind at work. The out of balance may be accommodated in the attached parts. ???? Thank you for another great video Oliver.

[@ringstinga]

Cracking job again Oliver you really could do to get an overhead crane system even to just assist with moving things to set them up on the machines !

[@johnmcclelland5265]

Beautiful work as always. What a tricky job to do. Way beyond most people’s capabilities.

[@RalfyCustoms]

Morning Oliver, have a great day buddy

[@snowballengineering]

You too!

[@krisbrzezina2289]

just a small pointer for the screws that hold the 35mm reducing bushes only fit them finger tight as they are a pain in the arse to get out when you go to fit the bore welder also the measuring tool is very accurate but you need to sweep it across the tip of the carbide to fit the high spot then do your adjustment from there keep up the good work Olly

[@stefankaufmann8257]

Oliver, there should be a max. temperature written on the motor, for these servos 90°C or even more are normal. The gearbox is a worm gear, efficiency is lower than gearboxes like used in cars, that's why it gets warm too. So don't worry about the temperatures. Very nice job btw. I like your skills on the CNC and i very much like the way you solve problems.

[@jerrybeasley-dq5sd]

it pays to know when close is the best outcome over kill is some times needed but you seem to know what is reasonable, great watching your videos.

[@mikekelly7506]

Truly excellent fabrication and engineering to be able to undertake a task just hope you get a return on your outlay with many more crankshaft jobs to come . Always look forward to your videos .

[@zacdrilling4554]

I truly love watching your channel oliver

[@Harry-ll2xm]

The construction of the jig was a first class piece of equipment a true professional engineer

[@stephenmeeks684]

I suggested it before, but an a-frame gantry crane would be a good investment and a help with lifting heavy things. Your tooling assembly jig is wonderful.

[@brianalder2234]

Serious amounts of set up and jigs etc . Brilliant job hope you can use them again in the future! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😁😁

[@Andrew_Fernie]

Nice fix. Looks like it will do the job. That thing is going to bend and twist like a wet noodle anyway with 3 journals and only supported at the ends. It may well be that they run-out more than that from new, contributing to them breaking. Like you say, it's not an engine crank. Time will tell. I bet there aren't many who would take the job on.

[@andyloebrown8250]

It's just a pleasure to watch a man do precision work! Thanks.

[@mikeburton7077]

A job well done ,almost impossible to be any more accurate, great work !

[@michaelpage7691]

Not being a machinist, you’re pretty good. You use your brain and solve the problems. I’m a fan of Cutting Edge Engineering also and you have the same attitude. 🇦🇺👏👍🏻

[@christopherc7757]

I'm not sure whether you watch Clint's KZbin channel at C&C Equipment? He too has a Chinese (I think) line borer and the motor on his machine also gets very hot. Incidentally, he watches Kurtis at CEE and is also in awe of his (very expensive) line borer. I love your videos and the refreshingly honest approach you take when making mistakes and learning from them. This is another great video, thanks for posting such interesting and educational content!

[@lotsabat8]

I think you were right with the jig Oliver, maybe add the other supports if you've ever seen them snap in other places but you're set for the repairs on those now, get yourself advertised for them.

[@hpda44]

Congratulations! This was a very hard job and you did wonderful.

[@gerryboard6615]

Nice Job. At the correct P.T.O speed those gathering forks don't run very fast, balance is not a problem.

[@endemiller5463]

was wondering myself - maybe the 3 "conrods" are different weights and the overall is "balanced"

[@stephenboyer5303]

It’s Sunday morning and Oliver’s latest video is out time for a coffee. Absolute brilliant work and sharing your thoughts. Love it keep up the great work mate

[@russellwall1964]

You do some amazing work for being “I’m not an engineer”. I’m not one either - just a hobbyist. But I’ve learned a ton from watching Kurtis at Cutting Edge Engineering and…. YOU!!

[@pav1974]

You should build a cart for the line borer that holds control box and all the tooling so it is all in one place and it will mobile.

[@782sirbrian]

Interesting build and thought going into the project. The jig was essential to my thinking or it would be guess work how it lined up correctly. The new line borer looks to be doing a good job. I hope you get some feedback from the customer once the baler is back in use. Thanks for taking us along as you do the job. Brian from South Yorkshire.

[@darrylwagar4144]

Great job, showing real work getting done right.

[@williammills5111]

Fantastic job on a brain teaser. Thought through clearly, well executed and I’m certain well within tolerance for the application. Thanks for taking us along!

[@williamthomas9463]

Brilliant work! I only hope that the price of a new crank from New Holland justifies what you are entitled to charge for all the work that you’ve put into those two alone. Something tells me it does based on the price of parts. Lord knows, you deserve to be compensated for what you’ve put into this project.

[@Colin56ish]

Ideally, both units badly need balancing. Great job Oliver. Nice new Toy to play with.

[@andyworks5428]

You definitely needed to have the ends held in alignment, but you may have gotten away without having the offset holder. I think it would have self aligned. But you had the means, so why not. Great work and another great video.

[@timw2407]

Ur engineering abilities are top notch, Ur deductive thought processes are key. Keep up the fantastic vids !

[@toddplenda5569]

Looking good,Pretty interesting work I sure hope your over head hoist comes soon 👍

[@stuartlockwood9645]

Hi Oliver 😊 absolutely stunning work mate, alot of time and effort went into that jig, but it paid off in the way that the the crank just pulled out after welding whith no springing. As for runout that's as near as damn it is to swearing spot on for that kind of thing, I'm sure after hammering round a field it will be under all sorts of flexing , and battering, you've no worries in your accuracy mate. From an old yorkshire man I say tha's done a grand job ladd. Many thanks for another great video, stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.

[@Curlyim2]

Greg at OnFire Welding just got this machine and he has a Climax as well. He mentioned his second job was better than the first as he got familiar with the tool.

[@RattiDave]

That jig is a brilliant piece of work. Just wish you could show the final working baler in motion. I really don't think the minimal amount of runout you're measuring will have any appreciable negative effect on the operation of the baler.

[@gdmonks1959]

Great job again as usual Ollie, from an engineer to a ‘non-engineer’ 😂😂😂 your not fooling anybody buddy! Your task processing and mechanical skills are a credit to you, well done again another great video 👏👏👏

[@brucecliffe6213]

Given that it is used in a baler for the hay forks I would imagine that its rotational speed would be a little less 60 RPM, probably more like 30RPM I imagine. The shaft wobble at that speed would not be as significant as the out of balance IMHO. The break to me looks like it was caused by the out of balance issue as it looks like the fracture worked from the outside in with an even pattern. It was a pretty clean break. Given that you have an idea of how much out of balance it is would it not be prudent to weld some counterweights on it in a couple of strategic locations. 3.5KG even at 40RPM is a huge amount. Thanks for the video Ollie and all the very best to you. You are one clever bloke.

[@jamesriordan3494]

Great one Oliver - you’re a natural inventor and I hope you can find time to pursue ways to improve our lives

[@JosephCarroll-g6w]

I love the work u do and love watching u at work

[@alandawson2813]

Wow Oliver, What a amazing job. Keep up the great work, From kiwi land.

[@matthoward923]

Your repairs are entertaining. Your repair jigs are absolutely amazing.

[@michaellynskey7124]

Once you have a jig fabricated your data is correct, As long as your happy with the result the crankshaft turned out that’s all that matters, The new Chinese line boring looks a great piece of equipment and reasonably priced 🇬🇧🇮🇪.

[@simsapot]

Hey Oliver! Great Channel, Brilliant Skills! Keep Them Videos Coming!

[@passenger6735]

Could have maybe done with clamping an angle plate to the bed and the upright on that third cut. It wouldn't have bowed the piece and it would have made it more rigid. Rigidity is King when it comes to machining. Great video once again. I'm sure that you will modify the boring machine as you find fault with various aspects. I'll be keen to see these too.

[@b.malnit8983]

Awesome job Ollie! You showed your true ingenuity on this one.

[@constitutionalUSA]

Not my area of expertise but it sure looks like you do an excellent job, the best that can be done with anything you do. You are a smart young man, don't ever let the detractors and smart asses make you second guess yourself. You certainly think things through thoroughly and learn from your mistakes well. I'm sorry that I will not live long enough, as my own sons, to see where you go with your skills. thank you

[@danielgriffith7694]

Excellent work as usual 👍. May I suggest using a jam nut on all the grub screws on the boring bar. Chatter or vibration can make them loose 👍