Replace lithium tablet battery (3/5 wires with 2 wire) INSIGNIA NS-P16AT08

EDUCATIONAL ONLY -- NOT INTENDED AS ADVICE.
BigSLICK fixes a defective Insignia NS-P16AT08 android tablet that, after only 1 year, developed a bad (open circuit) battery.
I show how the original "5 wires battery" (actually, 3 wires...) was replaced with a generic 2-wire lithium polymer battery. New battery has higher capacity and the tablet now has SUBSTANTIALLY LONGER battery life and works better than when new.

[@frankbarby1715]

Dude: thanks for the tips. Did exactly as you recommended and IT WORKED! Really appreciate your adding this video.

[@ardensellars]

Would of been kewl to c the resistor work

[@sangeethc]

white wire to black or red or both ?? where did you connect resistor

[@Griever0608]

Same question as sangeeth

[@user-yi7ez6lf4z]

How do I connect the white one to the other? Should I replace the protection circuit board, too? Because, If you trash the circuit board, White one's tip both start and end should be connected to the others and that seems meaningless.

[@fredjohnson9856]

Thanks for the video. I did some testing of my own, the white wire goes to a thermistor to track battery temp. Higher temp = lower resistance.

[@Terablick]

Yes, it is a very important thing on that battery, because it protects it from overheating = permanent damage and capacity decrease :) I came to see how exactly it was changed from 3 wire to 2 wire battery (that whole circuit from one battery to another one), but it wasn't, so I am a bit disappointed, because "fixing" it by adding permanent resistor is like change a circuit breaker by a nail :) It will work fine, except of any suitable form of protection :)

[@cptrush3671]

@@Terablick although this video is quite old you were partially correct. he still had protection board on new battery. so im sure it was ok.

[@alexkit14]

To those asking where the resistor goes. He said that the white wire goes to the black wire with the resistor in between. 09:01

[@Tudumanu]

The 10k to 12k resistor 😉

[@Griever0608]

Can you show the picture on how you attached the resisitor please?

[@JungleBabaNick]

Thanks for the help. Really useful. Converted a 5 wire battery to solar charging.

[@lovikaifzaidinakanal980]

It would be very useful if you could show - how the resistor was attached.

[@bantuy]

connected short to white and black wire

[@f1ghter677]

Thank you so much for this video. I had some other issues with the charging port so i ordered a charging module and thus video helped me to understand the connections. Thank you so much

[@Lord5oth]

video is much better on 2x speed, thanks for the video.

[@fernandocasar1792]

@2:40 I think the reason might be maintaining a low profile on the connectors, power connectors are often big and bulky. The cheap alternative is just soldering to a big pad.

[@brendandoherty2159]

I've just now replaced a 5 wire battery with a 3 wire battery, similar to you I assumed the 2 red wires on the original battery could safely be connected to the single red wire on the new battery, then same with the black and lastly white to white. Problem is when I try to charge it shows me a blue battery with an exclamation mark in it!!!!!

[@Smmmile]

I believe the white wire is for temperature.

[@JodBronson]

Yes it is!

[@paulrayner8447]

Dud, you are bypassing the battery charge safety circuit. The white wire goes to a thermistor which detects the temperature of your battery. The safey circuit cuts of the connection if your battery heats up too much. Please don't try this at home.

[@nkos6376]

i am not sure but this functionality (and all the other protections) should be inside the lipo battery's protection system. otherwise they will not sell it with only 2 wires.

[@cptrush3671]

although this video is quite old you were partially correct. he still had protection board on new battery. so im sure it was ok.

[@pe7976]

Can you advice how can i directly power a JBL Go using USB direct and bypass the battery? It sounds great compared to its peers in the competition but changing the dead battery will have me change it again after 2 years so there is no point reviving the JBL Go only to do same thing every time the battery no longer holds a charge plus I can still use it outside home by hooking it directly to a USB power bank, which in that case still makes it a go speaker. I have seen one in you tube doing the conversion but it is in Thai and pretty cannot be understood how he does it and I think that video was more of a show off of electrical/electronic skills rather than one one as a tutorial.

[@nunodantas8326]

Hi, have the same problem. I'm buying a 2 wire battery but the original has 5... do I have to replace the new battery board with the older one, you did not show the welding process. appreciate the advise

[@dawntoolbelter7610]

As others have said, DO NOT replace a 3 wire Li battery with a 2 wire. You will be asking for trouble of the explosive kind. If you have a fire and your house or car is damaged, the insurance company will have the device forensically examined and by fitting the wrong battery you will void your insurance.

[@pedromedidata]

Best thing is switching the circuit board of the two batterys, did that and work fine.

[@pr0xZen]

On some battery cells the terminals for connecting the actual cell to the protection board are really difficult to work with. So this is something to evaluate on a case by case basis. Also note that lithium cells are finicky with temperature, and there's zero protection - those connections go straight to the internal cell layers. So be careful not to short them, and if soldering use flux. You need to limit how much heat you apply as it sinks straight into the cell to a minimum, so get the actual soldering done quickly.

[@joepastafari]

@@pr0xZen it's safer than running the battery without all the protection circuits that are built into that board

[@bissib585]

thanks for the tips.

[@johncygan250]

I have the same problem and have received my battery bought on Ebay. I measure 9.7K ohms between the white and black wires. I see a 10K ohm, 1/4watt resistor on RadioShack website. Is this an OK resistor to use or should it be 1/8 watt?

[@bigslick]

wattage does not matter

[@johncygan250]

Thanks!!!

[@pz6pz419]

I don't fucking care

[@dustinsiemers4766]

Only thing I would warn ppl about is that the resistor in the original battery is intended to protect the tablet (and other stuff) from starting on fire. It will change value when it gets too hot and thus stop the charging. So if you do this you probably want to charge it very carefully from now on, especially when this new battery gets old.

[@cptrush3671]

new battery has protection board on it. he did not remove it so it should be fine.

[@iliedraguta1389]

Why don't you show you connected the 2 wires from the battery???

[@JodBronson]

*For me, it was easier to take the old Charging Circuit Board out and replace it with the new one, it was faster and simpler.*

[@ner0p]

Does that even work?

[@JodBronson]

@@ner0p - YES 100% !!!

[@SagarDeswalBR]

It's called BMS(battery management system

[@gphilipc2031]

BS...How do I look up the battery? I would like to purchase a good quality 4000 to 5000mah battery for my little 7" Emerson Tablet. The old battery is shot. Who is the vendor that you purchased from on E-bay?

[@sunrise6091]

Thank you ... succesfully replaced x3soul mini ... direct powered line

[@TheTails63]

Thanks,a lot of good tips to save some headaches.

[@syxxx9]

My tablet use 2 lines. But i bought new battery with 3 lines. How to connect?

[@J.Corr89]

So what do you do with the white wire for it to work and charge right?

[@Benri05]

can I do the opposite? my tablet only takes 2 wires (black and red) and the replacement battery that I got has 3 wires ( black, red, and white), can I just plug the black and red wires and just leave the white one unconnected?

[@mikel4879]

Top 10 E / Yes, because the electronic regulator ( BMS, etc ) is on the main board in this case where your device's battery has only 2 wires from the factory.

[@hananhanan5864]

Tankoyo.yes.Tablit.Merci

[@meowgadgets8165]

Dude,awesome video. I'm trying to do the same except I'm to replace the protection board of the lipo battery I bought from Aliexpress with my smartphone battery's original protection board. Any tips perhaps?

[@noway0815]

thanks for the video... I appreciate you effort

[@JanetDiaz6152]

how do i charge direct a li-po polymer rechargeable with 3 wires, RED/black/ and white 3.7 volts 4100mAh

[@gameconsole9890]

Just apply 4.2v at correct terminals ang calculate the time depending on how much current you want the battery to charge ang how much is the capacity of your battery

[@mctaufan]

Thanks Mate, it works well

[@sonicfuker]

Well done. One less thing in a landfill and you save the money too.

[@syedEpic2]

Can you do tablet without battery for 5 pin battery

[@borjok536]

can u.solder the protection circuit on another battery of the same size of the original battery and use it as replacement? is that possoble?

[@JunglistBass]

I fitted the circuit from my original battery to the new ebay battery, after removing the one on the ebay battery

[@HAIForest18]

As long as it is the same battery type (Li-ion) and same voltage (3.7V) you should be good to go. By changing the battery circuit from the 2 wire to 3 wire system, you are actually making the cheap battery a little bit safer since you are adding some more protections to it.

[@borjok536]

Jakub Lapin thank you for this info..

[@DanWebster]

how much was the new battery?

[@sangeethc]

u connected resistor from white wire to red ? or black ? or both ?

[@RandomNullpointer]

to black

[@ngleeann1247]

N red to red?

[@amin031]

Thanks for this.

[@learnalanguagewithleslie]

Good job man!

[@SSchotu]

CAN I USE 3.7 VOLT 10000 MAH LIPO BATTERY IN LIEU OF 3.7 VOLT 3000 MAH LIPO BATTERY (DEFAULT) IN MY TAB WITHOUT ANY HAZARD/DAMAGE?

[@mikel4879]

Shymal S / 1) Yes, if you use your original regulator and the regulator is in good condition. 2) No, if you just connect directly to the wires because the 10 000 mAh one takes a higher current to charge, so it works but there's danger to get on fire or destroy the device.

[@JodBronson]

Yes, it was easier to take the old Charging Circuit Board out and replace it with the new one, it was faster and simpler.

[@frankdad0n10]

do u have a link to the websit for the battary i have the same tab and i have the same problem

[@bigslick]

from ebay search for: 3.7V 5000 mAh 3194105 battery

[@frankdad0n10]

bigslick thanks

[@expert2792]

Working perfect

[@user-yi7ez6lf4z]

How do I connect the white one to the other? Should I replace the protection circuit board, too? Because, If you trash the circuit board, White one's tip both start and end should be connected to the others and that seems meaningless.

[@expert2792]

@@user-yi7ez6lf4z you just connect a 10k resistor between white and back wire,and then connect positive and negative on bms board

[@humaylkhanyousafzai3909]

My tablet has 6 years old 2012

[@lilwayne9482]

Hehe

[@borjok536]

can u just solder the original battery protection chip to the new one? is that possible?

[@RandomNullpointer]

yes

[@siddhesh6530]

I tried it with my ipod but now it charges 0 to full in 5 mins discharges in 10 mins

[@RandomNullpointer]

Perhaps the battery is dead

[@sistersofmercy]

Hello, thanks,works for me but i use 45k resistor, and start charging , i try with 1k,2k,10k,12k, and then 45k and ir works dont know why but it works,

[@RandomNullpointer]

the white wire goes to a thermistor to track battery temp. Higher temp = lower resistance

[@chudaikhanahindustan4891]

best is used mastercard, visa card to pry open a tablet, phone like that, never use sharp objects, or any plastic will also do...

[@lilwayne9482]

Help please my red wire is cut 💔💔💔💔

[@philipnickerson8664]

The "protecting circuit" is a regulator.

[@jimmurphy5355]

The protection board might be a regulator. But I think it is more likely to be a "BMS." For a single cell like this, the BMS would consist of a voltage detector and some MOSFET switches that simply turn off the current in the event that the cell voltage gets too low or too high. The actual charging regulator, the circuit that converts the 5 volts (or higher) that comes from the wall adapter to the carefully controlled current and voltage to correctly charge the cell, will be on the main board of the tablet.

[@saifhassen32]

Have tablet 10 *2 Year Old*