Replacing A Manhole With An Inspection Tray

Replacing A Manhole With An Inspection Tray in a new Porcelain patio, in this case we use a Peter Savage one.
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[@facepot1]

Now that's quality. Great video with excellent instructions. As a DIY'er this will help me enormously in finishing my patio. Thanks Johnny Boy & the team. Top Job.

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Thanks Rhys for watching appreciate your comment. Tge videos are to provoke dialogue so we can all learn.. thanks for watching

[@jgilder436]

Best video on KZbin about installing one of these. Thank you, love your work and videos.👍

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Wow, thanks! thats so kind mate thank you

[@truelandman9336]

Some of the mintiest cuts I’ve seen - great for you to take time out of your day to do this - all the best John boy

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Cheers Gav mate.. good of you

[@scottnock5241]

I loved the TP going down the shoot!!! Lol. I have to do a well hole cover that is the exact same lid from 1928! Thanks

[@dsslimone]

Just noticed this video . I need to do this in my back door. Brilliant instructions. Looks great attention to detail with cuts etc. Nice.

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Cheers

[@barbkelly3524]

Very well explained in fact the best video I've seen on replacing a manhole, 👍

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Well thank you Barbara thats very kind. Johnyboy

[@jo76563]

Thank you for the Master Class!! 👍

[@GreentopLandscapes]

My pleasure!

[@jismo7]

Exactly what I was after. Thanks for the great video 👍

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Thank you

[@trakside1]

Got to fit one next week, thanks for showing me how to do it and the sponge technique 👌

[@GreentopLandscapes]

No problem 👍

[@jasonmurphy435]

great video as usual.explained it very well and great job👍👌🏻

[@GreentopLandscapes]

I hope i did get it right I was a bit worried appreciate it Jason

[@gloriacreppy6267]

We really doing great job

[@themidlandsflyfisherman]

Excellent video, just doing exactly this at the minute so searched and found your video. Giving it a go in a few days.

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Great news John

[@amyfrankie100]

Perfect absolutely perfect. Go back check all your videos and see how many times you say it lol😂 oh yeah don't forget bang on bang on. Like your vids fellow patio installer.👍👍

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Lol Cheers bud I will, bit of nerves i suppose

[@susanbaynham-evans8453]

Excellent job 👍🏻

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Thanks Susan

[@Menditman2014]

Good job, very informative thanks🙂👍

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Thank you

[@amac1657]

Spot on 👍🏼

[@GreentopLandscapes]

thank you

[@cchapperss6580]

Ive been pulling my hair out trying to figure this out. I was looking for adapters to fit the round riser. This is brilliant

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Cheers Buddy glad it hlped

[@justsamuelhaze]

quality workmanship

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Thanks Sam

[@amyfrankie100]

Do you remember years ago how much we were charging for benching manholes it was great money but you won't get it now and another thing alot of contractors don't use granular in their mixes but I still do when I occasionally have to do one. It's a great material to add to your mix. The porcelain is looking nice and now days I love laying it rather than sandstone. I had a he'll of alot of porcelain last year to lay. The sandstone nowdays is not as good as it used to be especially the project packs I tend to sort mine for the customer or get the supplier to do it for me if they have the time. Keep up the good work.👍

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Takes me back thinking how . we used to bench Manholes its crazy how things have changed then again talking to a civils company in Yorkshire so many things are the same, thanks for taking the time to watch bud.

[@sirbrian9404]

Really nice m8 great stuff 👍

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Thanks

[@CrIMiN8l]

Good video, thanks

[@GreentopLandscapes]

my pleasure

[@chrisbellamy2927]

thanks for doing this, as just had a poor job done resurfacing drive and need this to pick up the mistakes like top stones inside cavity and plastic lip not secured by hardcore/concrete and metal lid left floating loose as i step on it exposing the hole. now i have some ammunition.

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Pleasure mate

[@nkk8885]

This is brilliant! Showed my hubbie, impressed that you can tile over the metal inspection tray. (btw, you are the spitting image of my uncle...who a lot of people, including me, think he looks exactly like an Indian version of Richard Gere...Just saying :))

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Thats so funny but thank you, hope it all works out for you guys always here to help stay safe

[@ProfessorCodemunkie]

Thanks for the tips! Do you ever find that the metal tray protrudes above the plastic frame? I picked up a few Clark recessed covers for my patio but the metal tray is slightly higher in some spots than the plastic frame. Should I lay the tray flush with the metal or the plastic? Or I could grind down the metal frame a bit so it's flush with the plastic.

[@firestickfirestick460]

Tommy lar nice video top tip of the day get ya self a umbrella put it down the hole open it up as much as you can this will catch any falling stones cerment etc

[@GreentopLandscapes]

good advice

[@bleddynpullen8329]

I like it

[@Mark...]

Liking the 1080p picture, much easier to watch 👍

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Thanks Mark mate

[@GazlarW]

Great job as always , picking up some great advice for my first porcelain patio 🙃 What depth tray is sufficient for 20 m porcelain?

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Hi Mate, you can use a 50mm tray

[@garethcooper2096]

Great video, explaining the process, as are all your videos :) One question regarding your cuts around the corners of outer frame, where the cut porcelain is essentially a "L" shape. How do you produce a clean cut without marking the porcelain, ie as the circular saw continues to cut (the distance from the bottom of the saw along the circumference to the top of the tile) ....I hope that makes sense? Cheers Gareth

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Hi Gareth first of all many thanks for watching, I am not quite sure I understand your question, however I am. more than happy to take your call my friend

[@Mark...]

Looking good, what stopped you from putting the frame hard against the porcelain like you suggested you might do near the start? Was it because the frame would then be overhanging the manhole a little?

[@GreentopLandscapes]

I just wanted to sit it even on the chamber Mark, I would of soon been pulled up on that if i did not, lol

[@garyharris184]

Very tidy job cant fault finsh product When im doing those lids i always leave the sub base low around it and make up the ground to suite much easier to build up than dig out ,l also putva sheet of polythene under the lid and under my sub base before putting lid back on again so never problem with stuff going down the channell when you finished the works on the new lid simply cut away poly thene . Not a critisism just a thought great job

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Great response Gary thank you mate.

[@heathbland6354]

Evening Johnny boy, 2 questions. First question. when you have set the plastic frame in and ready to cut the slabs around it, if using 6mm spacers on the slabs do you keep the cuts 6mm off the frame? Second question. When cutting the slabs inside the cover, do you again keep the 6mm joint from the metal cover? Hope you understand the questions mate

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Hi g the plastic frame in place the tray back in the plastic frame to ensure it goes down square, and yes always maintain the same size gap. stay safe Bud

[@wayneosullivan1549]

John boy 😁 happy day doing my manhole drain tomorrow 😞 it’ will be my first time 👍

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Have fun! Good luck

[@wayneosullivan1549]

@@GreentopLandscapes thanks 🙏 let’s get the party started 😎🇬🇧

[@garvielloken3929]

NOOICE!

[@adammcguffie8382]

Hi mate thanks for all the video's very helpful. Which is the best blade for cutting porcelain tiles? Cheers

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Hi Adam mate here are just to many to mention and every one has there opinion, I think the thing is it will depend on the Porcelaine as there is good quality porcelain like the Italian and Spanish make then there is the the stuff from Poland India and Turkey etc, So really you want a full bodied Porcelain as it is not like honey combed inside, so basically depending on what quality Porcelain you are cutting will depend on the quality of the blade and how good the cus will be, thanks for watching and stay safe mate. Johnyboy

[@adammcguffie8382]

Is the Turkish porcelain any good? Cheers mate stay safe

[@TheMark1840]

Great video - what goes in the void around the perimeter where it meets the house? Pea shingle?

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Hi Mark, we used a black contemporary pebble, hope your safe

[@TheMark1840]

@@GreentopLandscapes Thanks Johnyboy, you too.

[@mkca]

Hi mate, quick question my garden is sloping and existing old cover is flush which is no good. When I fit new one what's best to build the higher point of the tray up could I just use plenty of concrete underneath at the front to get the correct fall. Hope it makes sense. Cheers

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Hi Micheal I think it does make sense unless I am confused lol but Yes Sir

[@drekly]

How do you deal with it when it's not flush with the ground? We have a riser on the manhole cover which sits at least a few inches proud. I've unscrewed it and I'm pulling like hell - it wobbles but it's not coming up!

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Some times Sam site guys Screw from the side

[@johnadams7585]

I want to widen my block paved drive way onto my lawn by about 1.5 metres but there are two plastic square manhole covers there. I checked and these covers' edges are just sitting on soil below the turf with the round inspection hole connected to a round plastic deep drain. If i wanted to replace these with recessed manhole covers capable of being driven over, how do I prepare below them please? In your video it is currently concrete that you dig out - what if it is compacted soil?

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Hi John you will need concrete below the trays and bedded in correctly to take the weight.

[@jarfar95]

So if I dig out soil to make a concrete bed around plastic deep drain that allows new manhole cover to seat into drain at correct height and edges of manhole secure in bed of concrete? How deep must the concrete be?

[@andreicotorobai731]

good job , could i ask where did u purchased that tray please? thanks

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Thank you you can get these from any builders merchants

[@supertrowel1]

Hi so the tray finishes flush with top of slab ?or did you keep it down a few mm ?

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Yes Gary mate, stay safe

[@Jaaammmbbbooo]

All I was thinking is, rats. I had several run past me once. Chucked a load of rat killer down there and I kid you not, this dead rat was like a small cat, tucked itself into one of the unused channels. Probably a couple of weeks old, dead, that mixed with the general stench of a sewer, you can imagine. Brings back bad times lol

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Lmao 🤣

[@karanbajwa83]

May I ask what mix you used for benching the manhole. Was it the same as that for bedding the manhole and what mix is this? Thank you

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Hi Bud, It was with grano dust at 5 to one,

[@karanbajwa83]

@@GreentopLandscapes thank you great channel and work by the way I am a fan of yours

[@tylerpassey3313]

Is there a limit to how much a patio can be built up around a manhole ? Is there a certain depth you got to stick to?

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Hi Tyler wel generally he deeper it gets the bigger it should be to allow access, stay safe mate

[@onefortheroad1]

Nice job sir. What are those flags called?

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Granito they are porcelain.. thanks so much for your response.. Johnyboy

[@1987kahil]

Hi John, i have a question. I have an inspection manhole in my garden which when i open the lid, it is around 5ft or so down. Im planning to build a small bathroom there. Can i shove insulation blocks to fill the empty gap and protect any pipes, then purchase the inspection tray in your video with rubber frame and then tile the floor like you did so theres still access? Will that be ok? And will it stop any smell coming up?

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Give us a call mate

[@1987kahil]

​@@GreentopLandscapestried calling but says unavailable and to email

[@GreentopLandscapes]

07795595994

[@zoehealey1213]

How come you remove the old metal circle cover? Can't you get a tray slightly bigger so you would lift it up in the same way if you needed access but then the metal cover would be still there underneath which you would then lift? I'm just thinking for smells it would be like double the protection? Maybe I'm missing something but sure there's probably a reason?

[@GreentopLandscapes]

The Tray is a sealed unit

[@scummyweasel1]

Hi folks. I have a buchan trap in my back garden (360×240) but I want to put block paving down. I can't find anything to fit. Any tips? Thanks.

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Buchan?

[@juliedonnelly6704]

Hi John, great video as always When installing a manhole cover do you recommend a polyurethane and metal one or one that all polyurethane

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Thanks Julie half and half is better

[@juliedonnelly6704]

Thanks John, your videos are always a great help 👍

[@GreentopLandscapes]

My pleasure

[@glennsurgey6206]

Hi if needed to can the tray be set fully to one side ?

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Not sure what you mean Glenn mate, but call 📞 me mate if you like 👍

[@adammcguffie8382]

And what size spacers do you use? I've got 450×900 what size would you recommend?

[@GreentopLandscapes]

I. would not use 3mm like some do as this is more internal, 5mm seems sensible but every one has a view on this, thanks for watchin Adam stay safe mate

[@adammcguffie8382]

pavingstonesdirect.co.uk/vitrified-porcelain-paving/133-bianco-cream-porcelain-900x450-2106-m2.html These are the slabs I've got, they sound Italian but not to sure, could you please tell me if these are a good quality? www.buybrandtools.com/acatalog/Marcrist-CK850-300mm-Diamond-Blade.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwhOD0BRAQEiwAK7JHmK_N8Drx1oVKo8fm6dDl0G34w8jVaaBfh2cO4ngaY4M1Fc6MSBTQLRoCBbgQAvD_BwE This is the blade I've ordered. I didn't know which to choose between the RUBI TVH or the RUBI CPC, but this claimed to be the best on the market or money back. Was it a good choice? Thanks for your help mate stay safe 👍

[@Frenchwine15]

It's not cement it's mortar or concrete cement is the powder used to make the mortar. If you used a gauging trowel it would give you a much better tighter finish to your branching than any sponge could ever do. Other wise it looks good.

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Great advise david thank you, i did go ever with a gauging trowel afterwards mate, and thank you be safe mate.

[@tonyallen5182]

Hi, can you change service man holes or not?

[@johnroberts3679]

Well, that's a good question, it can depend if there is an easement on it and you just may need access to it.

[@kaisermahmood2641]

Does the manhole have to level? What if it tips slightly?

[@GreentopLandscapes]

level to the paving

[@antonios4926]

Hi thanks for the video. My new one has a metal frame. Is it worth drilling and screwing down as well as laying concrete?

[@GreentopLandscapes]

Thanks for watching, the metal frames seems to have a tendency to rust

[@antonios4926]

@@GreentopLandscapes I always buy the wrong one. I will coat it with some anti-rust. At least it will last a few more years. Thanks for the reply.

[@adouthwaite1501]

I didn’t see you washing the top of the ‘brickers hole with soapy water mate like the lady on the previous video! checking the level with surrounding paving wasn’t even mentioned in hers🤣

[@GreentopLandscapes]

? Not sure what you talking about sorry, if I missed something I am very sorry

[@bokintuli2690]

Where do i find this inspection tray in south africa.

[@GreentopLandscapes]

?

[@ashleymckenzie1889]

what size is the inspection tray ??

[@GreentopLandscapes]

I think it was 600 x 450

[@bstrysik]

Do you know of any companies that will ship this to the US?

[@GreentopLandscapes]

What Are you after SIr?

[@bstrysik]

@@GreentopLandscapes The inspection tray from the video. Thanks! I'm having a tough time finding a company that will deliver to the US. There is one company in the US that is similar but its commercial grade for city use.

[@bstrysik]

For anyone else in the US who was interested, this company will ship to the states if you contact them. recessedmanholecovers.co.uk/

[@soulboy6073]

id'a pisst mi sen if a big log had shot past @4.01 lol

[@GreentopLandscapes]

lol it has sometimes