Replacing Water Pump Impeller in Old Mercury Outboard

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Yardwork with John

Yardwork with John

Күн бұрын

I'm going to replace the rubber impeller in the water pump inside my old 1980's Mercury 90 HP outboard boat motor. This involves removing the lower unit, taking it apart a little bit, then re-installing it back on the motor. This maintenance will help insure your boat motor runs nice and cool as designed.

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@Gnarz1234
@Gnarz1234 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I've been thinking about replacing my impeller myself but haven't found a video of a similar enough engine to be confident doing it. I have a 1982 Mercury 90 so this is perfect guidance. Will definitely rewatch when the time comes. Thanks!
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn Жыл бұрын
Put the shifter in drive/forward before you remove the lower unit! I think that will make reassembly easier. Good luck!
@jimseefeldt2252
@jimseefeldt2252 Жыл бұрын
Regarding whether or not the old impeller was actually bad, remember that in order to pump water, the impeller has to have a good solid seal against the interior of the pump housing. This seal is what provides the pressure needed to push the water vertically into the motor. If that seal is weak, it allows water to pass between the impeller vanes and the pump housing and the resulting reduction in pressure keeps water from travelling up the intake tube. Note that new impellers have straight vanes, while old, used impellers have bent vanes. As noted in the video, you have to kind of force the new impeller into the pump housing by spinning it and bending the vanes so it will fit. Being wedged in there like that is what provides the solid seal against the side of the pump housing. If you go back in a week and remove the impeller, the vanes will try to straighten back out. But over time, these vanes weaken and become permanently curved. At that point, they aren't really pushing against the pump housing very firmly anymore. So even if an old impeller looks OK, isn't dry rotted, etc, it can still be underperforming because it's no longer able to get that tight seal. I personally don't go more than two years without replacing at least the impeller, and each time I perform this service to my boat I also scrutinize the gaskets and plates to see whether or not they need to be replaced as well. Even if you haven't used your boat much, the impeller can dry rot, so 24 months max is my threshold.
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'll never know what my problem actually was. It could have been the impeller, it could have been kinks in the water output hose, it could have been a super old thermostat. All three seems a little iffy but not too bad, so many all three were working together to reduce just enough water flow to give me problems. But I replaced all three (not in this video) and it runs nice and cool now! No more rowing my boat home :D
@kevincowart542
@kevincowart542 21 күн бұрын
Yup, 1989 115 two stroke.. Put it in reverse, and it went back together like magic. That impeller kit is something else. I didn't mess with the tube o-rings, just put a little marine grease on the impeller housing tube side so it would slide in easier.
@joewg3
@joewg3 9 ай бұрын
Having the same issue getting the lower unit in myself! It's the entire reason I watched the video. Now... back out to the shop. Glad it's not just me!
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 9 ай бұрын
Yeah it was a real pain. It took a lot longer in person than it looked in this highly edited video. You gotta just keep working it and eventually it will go in.
@joewg3
@joewg3 9 ай бұрын
@@YardworkWithJohn I found that turning the flywheel worked for me! Thanks!
@metrork1
@metrork1 8 ай бұрын
Possibly a ratchet strap might work while trying to push the lower end consisting of the impeller back in.
@joshradford1989
@joshradford1989 8 ай бұрын
Put in foward before you remove the lower unit then you can spin the prop to align the splines during reassembly.
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 8 ай бұрын
@@joshradford1989 Yeah I read this tip after I had already not done this :)
@HondaCivic-le9bv
@HondaCivic-le9bv 2 ай бұрын
Had the same issue getting the lower unit back on. I ended up getting the lower barely threaded on and used a wrench to turn the motor over by hand which allowed the lower to slip into place. Hindsight being 2020 I should’ve just left it in drive so I could spin the prop by hand.
@ryanjames5799
@ryanjames5799 10 ай бұрын
I have an 87 mercury 135 and am currently struggling with getting it to remount. So you put it in gear and then out of gear then it drive shaft seated properly? I will try that, the drive shaft just is not matching up. Thank you for the tip and great video.
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 10 ай бұрын
I was having a lot of trouble too. Lots of clips edited out of me trying to jam it up there and it not going. One thing people on the forums told me is that grease on TOP of the shaft will stop it from seating properly. Assuming thats not the case.... So what ultimately worked for me was what I did with the jack, I put a little bit of upward pressure on the lower unit so when I moved the throttle, it was able to suddenly side up. You could do the same thing if you had a helper. Have someone put the boat in and out of gear while you physically push it into place and see if it goes.
@ryanjames5799
@ryanjames5799 10 ай бұрын
@@YardworkWithJohnThank you very much for your reply. It turned out to be the marine grease I put in the grooves, I cleaned it out and it fit in with a little resistance. Your video was really helpful because I could not figure out what was wrong.
@MartinHentges
@MartinHentges 7 ай бұрын
I wonder if the shaft key came off the impeller and that caused it to not spin and suck water. - Thank you for the video
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 7 ай бұрын
I don't think so, the key was right where it belonged when I took the old impeller off. Also it did seem to work at higher RPM.
@3Mflatty95
@3Mflatty95 3 ай бұрын
Hey mate any chance i could ask you a few questions? I have the same motor just the 115 model
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 3 ай бұрын
I may not know the answers, but sure go for it.
@thangknowa3288
@thangknowa3288 4 ай бұрын
When the lower unit does not go all the way up, slowly bump-bump-bump it softly up as you barely turn the prop just a little until it slips all the way up. Something turned the prop just a little, probably the garbage can, if NOTHING moves, they usually slip right in. When it doesn't, just a small fraction of a turn, and pop, it goes in. Motor should be in reverse in this process. Also, next time antiseize the bolts.
@smeg8557
@smeg8557 10 ай бұрын
Can I ask you what kind of grease are you using?
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 10 ай бұрын
I'm using a thick quicksilver marine grease, I believe this is the exact grease I'm using: amzn.to/4cDLTtT
@smeg8557
@smeg8557 10 ай бұрын
@@YardworkWithJohn thank you
@smeg8557
@smeg8557 10 ай бұрын
One more thing you don’t have to torque any of the bolts?
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 10 ай бұрын
You know, it's one of those things. I'm sure if you asked Mercury tech support, they'd say yes you have to torque all the bolts. But I've taken apart and reassembled enough different things in my days that for something like this, I get by just doing it by feel.
@smeg8557
@smeg8557 10 ай бұрын
@@YardworkWithJohn yeah I was thinking the same thing I watched a couple other videos and they didn’t torque anything either. Thanks so much for replying. I really appreciate it.
@petervankoch
@petervankoch 6 ай бұрын
I am currently struggling to get the lower unit off.. its in neutral - does it has to be in gear ? Did you touch the linkages at all ? Thanks
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 6 ай бұрын
Off or ON? To get it off, all you have to do is undo the bolts and then tap it off and it should slide right out. Is it possible you are missing a bolt or two? Putting it in neutral or drive only has to do with reassembly, not taking it apart.
@jeremyyow8013
@jeremyyow8013 5 ай бұрын
Do you have a link for the impeller kit you used
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 5 ай бұрын
I do not, there are tons of different specific impellers, so you really need to look up the part number that your specific motor calls for.
@myriammorrison9840
@myriammorrison9840 6 ай бұрын
No grease on top! It can cause the shaft not to completely seat properly
@littletoze
@littletoze 9 ай бұрын
Marine grease? Do you mean lithium grease? Did you have to drain the 90w from the lower unit first? Curious if you were to twist the prop a little to align the gear/shaft, if that would have made it slip in easier?
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 9 ай бұрын
I believe this is the grease I use: amzn.to/3UDrdK5 I did not drain the gear oil in the lower unit. And spinning the prop wouldn't help because it wasn't in gear when I removed it. If I had put it into gear first, then its possible spinning the prop may have helped.
@metrork1
@metrork1 8 ай бұрын
I think the reason the lower half wouldn't go in easy is because the splines on the shaft were misaligned.
@mikekelso5744
@mikekelso5744 5 ай бұрын
Just Curious, how long did the job take??
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 4 ай бұрын
Well its hard to say because when you're filming, everything takes forever. And then I had to wait for the gaskets to arrive because I didn't pre-order though because I was hoping to reuse the old ones but that didn't happen. So for me it took a few weeks. But if I had to do it again this season, I could probably bust it out in two hours.
@HollerboiMI99
@HollerboiMI99 2 ай бұрын
I replaced the w.p impeller and now I cant get it to shift right has anyone had this problem. Is it the shift linkage ? Just not lined up right ?
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 2 ай бұрын
That would be my guess.
@vxycripter906
@vxycripter906 2 ай бұрын
There is a smaller shaft in your lower unit spin it all the way to neutral with plyers then place it back in correctly. I had this problem a while back
@rogerbranham5083
@rogerbranham5083 8 ай бұрын
I have an 1989 mercury 80hp, can't find anyone who sells the impeller, where may I ask did you get yours, thanks
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 8 ай бұрын
Oh you can get them everywhere. You just need to google the part number. The forum on iboats.com is a great source for info like this. I believe this was the exact one I purchased but if you google that number, you can get them anywhere: www.boats.net/product/mercury/43026T2?titan_sku=43026T2
@rogerbranham5083
@rogerbranham5083 8 ай бұрын
@@YardworkWithJohn Thanks!
@bluezim116
@bluezim116 7 ай бұрын
Do you think this will fix the water not coming out of the hole?
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 7 ай бұрын
There could be a lot of reasons that is happening. Mine seemed to be a combination of old impeller, old/crimped water hose, and corroded thermostat. There have also been times where I've been boating in really overgrown waterways and weeds get stuck and clog the input.
@ericjump5337
@ericjump5337 8 ай бұрын
For the love of boats and all that floats...I've watched 6 videos about removing lower unit on merc outboards and absolutely none of them explain getting the shift linkage off...
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 8 ай бұрын
I don't think there is anything to get off. When you slide the lower unit off, the shift linkage is another smaller shaft that slides out of the top of the engine at the same time the main drive shaft does. Unless you're talking about something else?
@ericjump5337
@ericjump5337 8 ай бұрын
@@YardworkWithJohn thank you .
@joshradford1989
@joshradford1989 8 ай бұрын
It odd also a spline it will just slip off.
@NicholasQuickLiveStreams
@NicholasQuickLiveStreams 8 ай бұрын
is the prop on your boat the "Stock Prop" if it is, what pitch
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 8 ай бұрын
Its the prop that came with the motor when my dad traded in the 55 HP back in 1992. That's all I really know about it.
@nedkent5239
@nedkent5239 8 ай бұрын
You forgot the housing/shaft seal.
@YardworkWithJohn
@YardworkWithJohn 8 ай бұрын
Which seal is this?
@kevincowart542
@kevincowart542 21 күн бұрын
@@YardworkWithJohn I saw that shifter coupler fall off when you pulled it apart, It was laying on the ground on your first attempt to reinstall the lower unit.. you must have corrected that seeing it went into gear.
@tommysanfilippo3165
@tommysanfilippo3165 6 ай бұрын
That’s impeller is shot. Compare it to the new one. Once the vanes stay curved then it’s pretty much spent.
@jasonpollock1731
@jasonpollock1731 6 ай бұрын
I’m still looking,but I’m pretty sure it has to be in a gear or neutral, can’t remember which that’s the reason why I’m watching videos. I don’t remember why it’s important.
@robertrobinson7368
@robertrobinson7368 4 ай бұрын
mercury inboard & out board s every thing is done in forward gear as far as the pump housing put the impella & key on the pump base first slide the pump body down the drive shaft to the impella hold down on it & turn the prop with your foot . never use a floor jack if both lower unit & shift handle or controls are in forward and the water tube is lined up it should just slip right back on .
@jasonpollock1731
@jasonpollock1731 6 ай бұрын
P.s. use soap not grease.
@daniel3188
@daniel3188 7 ай бұрын
Yea no... that impeller is not perfect. It's old.
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