Repurposing Obsolete Rifles: The Lebel R35 Carbine

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@damienwhisenant9115
@damienwhisenant9115 7 жыл бұрын
So it's a rear line rifle made free up front line rifles that were actually rear line rifles made to free up front line rifles.
@ivanrivera3293
@ivanrivera3293 5 жыл бұрын
That's a switcherino if I've ever seen one
@willdog3
@willdog3 4 жыл бұрын
how very french of them
@danielnavarro537
@danielnavarro537 Жыл бұрын
The French during the 1930s: “Les problèmes modernes exigent des solutions modernes.”
@maotisjan
@maotisjan 11 ай бұрын
You lost me 😵‍💫
@atomicmonkey84
@atomicmonkey84 7 жыл бұрын
Is Ian,dare I say it, a Oui-aboo?
@therealfranklin
@therealfranklin 7 жыл бұрын
That may be the greatest (non-shite) neologism of our times. I am stealing it.
@cloudkitt
@cloudkitt 7 жыл бұрын
Move to replace francophile with this, your honor.
@ivanrivera3293
@ivanrivera3293 5 жыл бұрын
See this pun? It's mine now.
@James_Hough
@James_Hough 7 жыл бұрын
3 round magazine in a military carbine in 1936.....oof.
@Usmodlover
@Usmodlover 7 жыл бұрын
There were only about 4,000 produced before someone realized it was completely pointless and none of them were issued.
@MrBioniclefan1
@MrBioniclefan1 6 жыл бұрын
And which rifle was that?
@AgentTasmania
@AgentTasmania 6 жыл бұрын
AngPur That was done more or less by accident, someone took a joke by Churchill literally
@jalpat2272
@jalpat2272 6 жыл бұрын
@@AgentTasmania the resources could be used for more sten instead.
@Sockem1223
@Sockem1223 5 жыл бұрын
@@AngPur I need to read about this.
@shooter575
@shooter575 7 жыл бұрын
I picked up a 1940 marked one of these in real nice shape. Came with 200 rounds of Syrian mg ammo. A batch of Boxer brass with dies and bullets. To me recoil is not that stiff. Well worth my 135.00 investment :-)
@shooter575
@shooter575 7 жыл бұрын
When a bunch of us were checking it over one guy asked" What is that metal finish?" My reply was that famous French process called Kry lon.
@DynamicDurge
@DynamicDurge 7 жыл бұрын
I have to say Ian, I remember watching your videos way back when people would complain about the "heavy breathing behind the camera". Fast forward several years and the channel has come so far. Keep up the content!!
@grochomarx2002
@grochomarx2002 7 жыл бұрын
I call his presentations "simple profesionalism" Where the presentation is boiled down to a minimum but dose not slip down into amature status. An exelent example of the "KISS" principle at work where economy and simplicity yeald exelent results for the time and effort involved. It is all it needs to be, no more and no less.
@plumbherhub1664
@plumbherhub1664 Жыл бұрын
Gun jesus
@wingwangtingtang
@wingwangtingtang 7 жыл бұрын
"Hey Ian we've got this French rifle in the ba-" Gunjesus: "say no more fam"
@daktari
@daktari 7 жыл бұрын
"Damn, I already have this one. Do you have a MAS36CR39? It's the only French rifle I'm missing from the 1850-1975 period"
@BillehBobJoe
@BillehBobJoe 7 жыл бұрын
This looks like his own house, he is into French guns its not impossible hes a lebel collector
@wingwangtingtang
@wingwangtingtang 7 жыл бұрын
supercrapnstuff11 it was a joke my guy I can see it looks like his filming room
@Lowlandlord
@Lowlandlord 4 жыл бұрын
@@wingwangtingtang He has a FAMAS too actually, so there are not many he is missing between the adoption of the cartridge and their modern HK416F. Karl has a civvie 416 too.
@JustSomeGuy489
@JustSomeGuy489 7 жыл бұрын
Cup of coffee, and Ian looking at an obscure french rifle. This is a good morning.
@leszekkadelski9569
@leszekkadelski9569 7 жыл бұрын
Same here, in Warsaw, Poland - though it's afternoon. But there's definetely something about Ian's voice that allows to chill while watching this kind of stories ;)
@JayRaxter
@JayRaxter 7 жыл бұрын
Same from NC but I'm sipping white liquor while a fire crackles in the grate....Watching Gun Jesus and mellowing out...
@dchil15
@dchil15 7 жыл бұрын
Same but with a cheeseburger at night in QLD Australia.
@deepwoodskentuckian
@deepwoodskentuckian 6 жыл бұрын
Tea with Jim beam for me! Lol
@stochinblockin
@stochinblockin 7 жыл бұрын
"Tense" during the late 1930s is an understatement.
@jlavamesa
@jlavamesa 7 жыл бұрын
Every time you say 'Tulle', I think Tula for some reason .... "Wait a French gun made in Russia? Oh .... Tulle with an 'e'"
@nindger4270
@nindger4270 7 жыл бұрын
I think the appropriate sound for the "U" in Tulle is just something completely foreign to the English language. I could say it's similar to the German "Ü", but that's getting us nowhere. :D
@leterrierdinari2861
@leterrierdinari2861 7 жыл бұрын
Robin Schuhmacher I think the English use it in the word Tutu (you know, the thing for dancers)
@nindger4270
@nindger4270 7 жыл бұрын
Maxime Vincent Do they? Whenever I heard that pronounced in English, it was pronounced like tootoo, which is nowhere close to what it should sound like.
@daktari
@daktari 7 жыл бұрын
The actual French pronounciation would be "Tull", the E at the end is silent.
@reeeeeee
@reeeeeee 7 жыл бұрын
Even in the south, the final "e" is pronounced very softly and unstressed. Well, maybe not in Marseille, but that's all.
@TheBurg229
@TheBurg229 7 жыл бұрын
Love mine. It is a bear to shoot though. Someone in my family brought it back after the war and was ignored in the will, so when I discovered it I was given the rifle. It’s this gun that got me into collecting historical firearms.
@TheBananamonger
@TheBananamonger 11 ай бұрын
Ahhh, to be a boomer with your whole life just handed to you for free. I am jealous of how easy your generation got it. You wouldn’t have made it as a zoomer or gen alpha
@TheBurg229
@TheBurg229 11 ай бұрын
@@TheBananamonger Wut?
@dakerson1234
@dakerson1234 7 жыл бұрын
The perfect hangover channel
@dmtdave207
@dmtdave207 7 жыл бұрын
I make my hookers watch this....during AND after.
@confusedcapitalist2242
@confusedcapitalist2242 5 жыл бұрын
Poly-Rhythmic Octopoid OMG
@Solsys2007
@Solsys2007 7 жыл бұрын
Pause at 0:12 to see Gun Jesus blessing this carbine :)
@greyhoundTex
@greyhoundTex 7 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!
@Tobascodagama
@Tobascodagama 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see one of these with a full-sized bayonet mounted on it.
@mysss29
@mysss29 7 жыл бұрын
One of you has pictures...go on, we'll wait. :D
@jhutch1470
@jhutch1470 2 жыл бұрын
I happen to have a full numbers match R-35 with the full sized bayonet. It's pretty cool.
@laurentdevaux5617
@laurentdevaux5617 2 жыл бұрын
Ian just forgot one little thing... There was another difference with the original Lebel : the long rifle was blued, except the bolt, the buttplate and the trigger guard, left in the white. The R35 parts were all parkerized and the barrel, receiver, handguard and nosecap were covered with a black paint, baked in oven for a better resistance, just like the MAS 36. You can see it clearly here
@alexio1942
@alexio1942 7 жыл бұрын
is it jsut me or has anyone realised that when Ian has shown us all the 'forgotten weapns' they wont be forgotten anymore
@clownworld4655
@clownworld4655 Жыл бұрын
Just bought one in excellent condition with a bayonet after wanting a lebel for years. Want to get the full sized one as well
@davelebel1
@davelebel1 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I just won a Lebel R35 carbine at auction. After watching this video, I am so excited to pick it up next week. I had to have this gun as my namesake is Lebel, and I already had bought the cool Lebel Rosalie bayonet that was originally paired with this rifle before it was sent off to the auction. I even managed to recently get my hands on two boxes of new Privi ammo so I am ready to go!
@JohnDoe-lu9fg
@JohnDoe-lu9fg 11 ай бұрын
Excellent video. As always. The best collectors specialist on internet. 👍👍👍
@briancox2721
@briancox2721 7 жыл бұрын
Well, the description of the geopolitics of the period as "tense" has to be the most under stated thing I've heard this month.
@williammagoffin9324
@williammagoffin9324 7 жыл бұрын
"R35", just showing that the US isn't the only country to have the problem of naming all your military hardware the same name. "Contact the manufacturers and request a new batch of R35s be produced" Tanks get delivered. "I meant contact Tulle not Renault!"
@TheStewieOne
@TheStewieOne 7 жыл бұрын
The French could not get rid of this rifle.
@hanskc3302
@hanskc3302 7 жыл бұрын
Ain't so simple to drop Lebel. Ba-dum, tss.
@daktari
@daktari 7 жыл бұрын
They actually came back after WWII and after the French Army tried to get rid of it they popped up again in Algeria, but in the hands of the FLN this time around.
@rogainegaming6924
@rogainegaming6924 4 жыл бұрын
Rumor has it if you enlist in the french military and you ask your armorer nicely, they'll hand you a spare lebel.
@richardanderson2742
@richardanderson2742 3 жыл бұрын
Since I own one of these, let me say that wanting to shoot one is the best incentive to get into hand loading. Anything approaching full power ammo will rock your world….and not in a good way. However hand loading mild cast bullet loads makes this a very enjoyable rifle to shoot. Since they received new barrels in the relatively short period leading up to the armistice, they are your best bet for a minty bore Lebel.
@DSMattitude
@DSMattitude 7 жыл бұрын
I am constantly blown away by Ian's knowledge on guns.
@nc_classics_9610
@nc_classics_9610 7 жыл бұрын
You should up with Larry Vickers and do a whole video on the Stoner 63 mg
@nc_classics_9610
@nc_classics_9610 7 жыл бұрын
lptomtom Yep thats what im referring too. Most people I know with machine guns tell me you bring the ammo I'll keep the brass, and you buy the food and beer.
@thelegendaryklobb2879
@thelegendaryklobb2879 7 жыл бұрын
Are you planning to do a video on the MAS 49 and 49/56? I think it's the only modern french rifle you are missing, since you already did the FAMAS. Cheers, love your channel!
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
The ones still left in my series are the MAS 44, MAS 49, MAS 49/56, MAS-36/51, and MAS 36 CR 39. Oh, plus the Meunier A6 and the MAS 49/56 MSE. And the Chassepot and Gras variations. :)
@oOkenzoOo
@oOkenzoOo 7 жыл бұрын
Don't Forget that after that, you still have to do the machineguns and submachineguns with the STA 24, MAS 38, HOTCHKISS mle CMH2, MAS 48-C3, MAT 49, Darne mle 33, Reibel MAC 31, AAT-52 and AANF1 ;) Oh and since you've already talked about the FR-F2 sniper rifle, a video on the PGM Hécate II would be awesome =D
@thelegendaryklobb2879
@thelegendaryklobb2879 7 жыл бұрын
Cool, nice setlist!
@grochomarx2002
@grochomarx2002 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting and informative as always. Thank you Ian for your good works.
@BaguetteShooter
@BaguetteShooter 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Ian, thank you for your videos and what you do to promote french history. Just one thing regarding the markings : The R35 rifles were made from either original " long " Lebels or from blank parts that were not used after WW1. So to distinguish a R35 rebuilt from an original long Lebel or a " new " made one, the R35 marking is in line with "Mle 1886" when it's a new made one like the one in your video and it's under the "Mle 1886 93" marking when it's built from an original long one. I plan to to a long video about this, I hope, in the next months.
@jorisjamroziak7024
@jorisjamroziak7024 7 жыл бұрын
Are you following French lessons? Your pronounciation is improving tremendously with every new video! I just hope France have enough rifles left for you to practice. :)
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
Je practique tous les jours... :)
@Dino01__
@Dino01__ 7 жыл бұрын
"Pratiquer" is the correct verb in French. ;) French logic right there. I really like your love for French armament and language, and I have to say I agree with Joris here. ^^
@jorisjamroziak7024
@jorisjamroziak7024 7 жыл бұрын
Is this part of your plan to convince the French government that you're an expert in 'the removal of those unsafe pre 1950 rifles they have in stock for only a tiny fee'?
@MrSogrek
@MrSogrek 7 жыл бұрын
Next step: pronouncing Tulle "tul", not "tuleu" or "tula". But congrats
@deadpool8221
@deadpool8221 7 жыл бұрын
Never been this early. Great video, your channel got me interested in going into weapon design after college.
@Bevobaseball44
@Bevobaseball44 5 жыл бұрын
"They are rough to shoot, they have quite a lot of recoil..." Very honest statement.
@markoneil6562
@markoneil6562 Ай бұрын
God, from WW1 to WW2 the French's weapons were like 20 years behind the times, and most of them were down right goofy.
@brabhamfreaman166
@brabhamfreaman166 7 жыл бұрын
Especially impressed by your fearless (and, in all honesty, not teabag [yep, aVe meme alert]) attempts at the French markings and even more impressed by your typically thoroughly researched info on 'Franksteined' Lebels, and their varying manufacturing locations and mish-mash of mixed markings present.
@MikeDCWeld
@MikeDCWeld 7 жыл бұрын
I would have lengthened the bayonet to keep the overall length the same as the original rifle version.
@crabyman3555
@crabyman3555 7 жыл бұрын
I think Ian might be the only large gun youtuber, who pays any real attention to French weapons.....and thats a shame.
@Alan.livingston
@Alan.livingston 7 жыл бұрын
From what I can tell most KZbin small arms content is Amerocentric given it’s mostly American creators funded by their local small arms industry. I watch less than a third of the content that comes through my subscriptions because it’s just not relevant.
@sargesacker2599
@sargesacker2599 7 жыл бұрын
With Ian I learnt about so many firearms I didn't even know existed whether they be cheap mass production SMG's or indigenous rifles from small countries. Other fire arm channels tend to do the mainstream western firearms such as the M16, M82 etc. Ian is probably the best one out there as he tells you the history and takes apart the firearm. That's why we love him.
@frankperkin124
@frankperkin124 7 жыл бұрын
The French make interesting small arms for sure.
@AB-xn6un
@AB-xn6un 7 жыл бұрын
*made
@Logan-zp8bi
@Logan-zp8bi 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Alan.livingston That is most KZbin channels, the worst is tech channels by far. Either you get a channel that is a sellout or praises linux. Linux is the worst OS ever made, it makes MS-dos look like windows 10, it only survives because its free and server hosts use it. Looking at most firearms channels either they try to sell you on getting a 10,000$ gun or have bias information. Some of them only do it to inflate the value of a particular firearm, since youtube fame increases the value of something by a significant margin.
@FirmMathers
@FirmMathers 7 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely peculiar piece.
@demonprinces17
@demonprinces17 4 жыл бұрын
So good watching again
@thumperpaul
@thumperpaul Жыл бұрын
That would be a shoulder thumper
@GHDEFIANT
@GHDEFIANT 7 жыл бұрын
Morning Ian, just noticing you haven't done a video in front of your rifle wall in awhile. Any changes or additions recently?
@adrianparker-wy1hn
@adrianparker-wy1hn Жыл бұрын
i love to listen american talk about weapons from my country
@bradonmartin3010
@bradonmartin3010 Ай бұрын
The one of these that i have seen still has the m93 mark on the receiver with the r35 mark under it. Why is that?
@FordPrefect23
@FordPrefect23 7 жыл бұрын
Before this series on French rifles I knew next to nothing of them. Now after watching Ian's videos I have developed a soft spot for the Berthier and the whole thing has resulted in me reinstalling Arsenal of Democracy so I can play as France!
@saltofpetra-4502
@saltofpetra-4502 7 жыл бұрын
HOI4? You sir are a scholar and a gentleman!
@FordPrefect23
@FordPrefect23 7 жыл бұрын
Part of it is nostalgia, HoI4 is on my list to get
@yves-mariesellin6026
@yves-mariesellin6026 7 жыл бұрын
intéressant! comme toujours
@vonmazur1
@vonmazur1 5 жыл бұрын
You missed AEG barrels as well. You have one but did not mention it. There is also a cavalry version with the stock sling on the side, like a Berthier carbine late model. The Germans had some of these made in Krakau using French barrelled receivers and parts to assemble them.
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 4 жыл бұрын
The obvious and sensible thing the French Ordnance Dept should have do with such rifles they declared obsolete is to sell them as surplus, sell the old stocks of 8mm ammo as well. Then use the money from surplus to ramp up production of new modern rifles. If you really need these rifles because you're being invaded then the best place they can be is scattered all over the country and if you don't know where they are then the enemy can't know either.
@demonprinces17
@demonprinces17 4 жыл бұрын
More afraid of own population then the Germans
@R32R38
@R32R38 7 жыл бұрын
Using these carbines for rear-echelon troops is the same thing that the US did with the M-1 Carbine.
@maotisjan
@maotisjan 11 ай бұрын
Three shot rifle with a hard to load magazine, No thank you I'll stick with a pistol or thrown rocks
@Oivindjensen
@Oivindjensen 7 жыл бұрын
Really interesting rifle, I have never seen one before
@T4nkcommander
@T4nkcommander 7 жыл бұрын
"If you're interested in the development of the Berthiers, well I have a while bunch of videos documenting that series." Hah. Hahahahah
@timb9606
@timb9606 7 жыл бұрын
I've recently taken an interest in French firearms. Is there any reference material on post-WWII French firearms? It's a bit hard to slough through the internet looking for information.
@gregoryfilin8040
@gregoryfilin8040 7 жыл бұрын
Tim B there probably are. I’d start by looking for well known publishers of firearms and see if they have any books on them.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
The one good book out there is Jean Huon's "Proud Promise" about French semiauto rifles, which covers the MAS 44, 49, and 49/56.
@anchorbait6662
@anchorbait6662 7 жыл бұрын
5am couldn't sleep so I turned to KZbin. Great now I'm sucked in :)
@hueyfellows7750
@hueyfellows7750 7 жыл бұрын
You said that the m93 markings were scrubbed and replaced with the r35 but i was looking at one of these in a gun shop and it still had the m93 marking with the r35, however the barrel was dated 1937 so maybe it was something they decided to change later on
@z31drifterlf
@z31drifterlf 7 жыл бұрын
If by tense you mean "we built this huge concrete wall between us and the Germans" then yes it was tense
@marsproductions1
@marsproductions1 7 жыл бұрын
If the French build a worthless wall then it's completely necessary but when I build a worthless wall to keep out my neighbor's dog it is "inhumane" and "you can't place spike pits at the edge of the driveway" smh.
@z31drifterlf
@z31drifterlf 7 жыл бұрын
"Punji Pits are wrong", "why are you so evil" they kept on yelling what has the world come to
@TheRogueWolf
@TheRogueWolf 7 жыл бұрын
Neighborhood kids step on ONE antipersonnel mine and people just flip their lids.
@Jeremiah90526
@Jeremiah90526 7 жыл бұрын
You should see what happens when someone trips a fougasse, even when you put a sign that says no parking or driving through this spot. The words, "unleashing unholy hellfire" end up being seen in the list of offences in the HOA fines. I dare them to point where it says I am not allowed to do that in the HOA rules.
@z31drifterlf
@z31drifterlf 7 жыл бұрын
If my neighbor can have that stupid desert scape i should be able to make an improvised mortar where ever i want.
@anglosaxonking
@anglosaxonking 7 жыл бұрын
Ian I caught your video with Bloke; what's the MOA on this rifle?
@bobbyarnette1911
@bobbyarnette1911 Жыл бұрын
Very fine ❤
@timknapper6990
@timknapper6990 7 жыл бұрын
Sir have you ever heard of 41 colt
@C-otter_
@C-otter_ 7 жыл бұрын
The bayonet was shortened -flaps hands for thirty seconds- . . . to fit the pattern of the rifle
@JosiahSiegel
@JosiahSiegel 7 жыл бұрын
"Shortened." "Fourteen-inch." ...right.
@stevesalinas9508
@stevesalinas9508 4 жыл бұрын
I traded some motorcycle parts for a sportsterized MF1937 marked model with a bent bolt, allowing for a scope mount. Fitted with a highly figured buttstock with monte carlo cheekpiece and a wide and checkered front stock ending at the first band. Its a nice deer and elk gun and the three shot mag is perfect for that. Any idea if this is a one off custom or something that was done fairly common with the R35?
@gz7006
@gz7006 7 жыл бұрын
Très bien! Just in time for breakfast. I'm feeling like breaking out the good butter and relaxing while watching this one.
@denerumsby6789
@denerumsby6789 6 жыл бұрын
Why is the second rifle marked AEG on the barrel? - this doesn't match with the barrel manufacturers mentioned in the video. Not nit-picking, just curious
@scumbagrebels6900
@scumbagrebels6900 6 жыл бұрын
Love your shirt👍
@thescatologistcopromancer3936
@thescatologistcopromancer3936 4 ай бұрын
Hawk Tula
@Eastwood007x
@Eastwood007x 7 жыл бұрын
I’d love to own one of these
@paulameloot9380
@paulameloot9380 7 жыл бұрын
7:28 love your french accent lol (my english accent isn’t better) ;) By the way 7:46 it’s « Société Alsacienne de Construction Mécanique » (Alsacian Society of Mecanical Manufacturing) Anyway great video 👍🏻
@theswissgunsmith2122
@theswissgunsmith2122 7 жыл бұрын
Errr... That would actually translate as "Alsatian Mechanical Works Company"
@paulameloot9380
@paulameloot9380 7 жыл бұрын
The Swiss Gunsmith oups ok as I said my english is not very good. Thanks
@treyriver5676
@treyriver5676 7 жыл бұрын
Many of its vices are due to being an emergency production. If France had a bit more time I Wonder if they might have tried making a "magnum" powered pistol carbine by creating a new cartridge with the same rim dia. but a shorter case to allow for more rounds in the magazine ? Maybe with the Bullet used in the 8x27R ? Even just downloading the case with the 8mm pistol bullet would have made the weapon easier to use. The 7,8g or 120gr bullet could have been pushed to 1800/2000 fps with out much issue as it is jacketed.
@hmhbanal
@hmhbanal 4 жыл бұрын
Type 12 Murata was way better.
@mhouse16
@mhouse16 7 жыл бұрын
I have a Larga 65 with a broken off bolt handle. I can't find parts anywhere especially since it was made in Argentina.
@terrysmith7751
@terrysmith7751 7 жыл бұрын
I may have missed it (because I am old), but what is magazine capacity for this shortened Lebel?
@FreekaPista
@FreekaPista 7 жыл бұрын
3 +1 +1 French practice was to have 3 in the tube, and chamber a round at command.
@GustavMeyrink
@GustavMeyrink 7 жыл бұрын
Good looking gun.
@admiralpercy
@admiralpercy 7 жыл бұрын
Are there any curio rifles that have barrels under 16" that are specifically exempt from the NFA? Apart from the stocked Broomhandles and High Powers.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, a bunch. In particular, early lever action "trapper" carbines. If you look up the ATF's C&R list, it has a whole section listing these exemptions.
@gregorycakes
@gregorycakes 7 жыл бұрын
Hi can someone explain the “only dropped once” shirt for me? I don’t get the reference.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
There is a common joke among US gun collectors about French rifles being never fired and only dropped once, because soldiers dropped them and fled (I think it started because of the imports of factory refurbished MAS 36 rifles being imported, which looked brand new). My point with the shirt is that they were typically dropped only once: when the poilu carrying them was killed in combat.
@everettchris1
@everettchris1 7 жыл бұрын
There's an overused meme of sorts in the gun community about French rifles that were "never fired, only dropped once", supposedly when French troops quickly surrendered. The shirt is a rebuttal to that, a reference to all of the very brutal battles the French were in in WW1... and their rifles were only dropped when they died.
@MrSebfrench76
@MrSebfrench76 7 жыл бұрын
Ian , you have no idea of what this simple shirt means to us. Thank you sincerely from a frog , so bored with the usual joke about the frenchies.
@ericbrauch9677
@ericbrauch9677 7 жыл бұрын
how about the 30-40 craig?
@wmh829386
@wmh829386 7 жыл бұрын
I will hate it so much if I have to face the German with it....
@thesuperpierre59
@thesuperpierre59 7 жыл бұрын
Wich it was never meant to ( sort of) if you were to face a german you would be given a mas-36
@wmh829386
@wmh829386 7 жыл бұрын
Remind me how the French plan in WW2 went though...
@Sam-gz7om
@Sam-gz7om 7 жыл бұрын
The germans came from belgium instead of directly attacking where there's no maginot line and invaded
@CPoLofVancouver
@CPoLofVancouver 7 жыл бұрын
How did they deal with the potential problem of bullet tips impacting primers during firing? The spitzer, straight-walled nature of the 7.5 cartridge seems like it would be a problem.
@tsuhobbs
@tsuhobbs 7 жыл бұрын
On his other video last week, he said the tip of the bullet was angled in the magazine so it didn't sit on the primer and the back of the shell casing had a lip for it to sit in.
@zacht9447
@zacht9447 7 жыл бұрын
It's in 8mm still
@zacht9447
@zacht9447 7 жыл бұрын
8mm does have a spitzer bullet but the way the case is shaped the taper is too great for that to happen
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 7 жыл бұрын
The rounds aren't 'parallel' in the tube, they angle down because of the shape of the case
@victorwaddell6530
@victorwaddell6530 7 жыл бұрын
toomanyaccounts After the LeveRevolution 30-30 came on the market I read an article in a gun mag where the writer loaded 30-30 Win with Spitzer bullets . He then loaded them in a tube magazine fed rifle and fired it remotely . He couldn't get a magazine discharge after several rounds . Can anyone out there find a verified story of Spitzer bullets causing a tube magazine discharge ? Maybe the whole tube discharge fear is unfounded. Not that I'm going to use myself or my rifle as a guinea pig . I've loaded soft point Spitzer bullets in 30-30 Win for my Savage 24V-A . She's an over -under double gun , 30-30 over 20ga. Those rounds shot well , but I've never killed game with them .
@adamhauskins6407
@adamhauskins6407 7 жыл бұрын
How much did this costs?
@Technocrat6400
@Technocrat6400 7 жыл бұрын
We should start a GoFundMe to get Ian another shirt.
@Francois15031967
@Francois15031967 7 жыл бұрын
The correct pronunciation for Tulle is without the final "e"
@SNOUPS4
@SNOUPS4 7 жыл бұрын
Except if you are a speaker from the southernmost part of France, but I agree. On another note, the alsacian company's name was nicely pronounced: congrats!
@agbrown111
@agbrown111 7 жыл бұрын
Ian, is there a milsurp carbine out there that would make a decent deer rifle that wouldn't be super expensive and the ammo would be easy to get my hands on?
@brandonbennett1618
@brandonbennett1618 7 жыл бұрын
Some sort of Carbine Mosin-Nagant. Cheap gun, Cheap ammo. Reliable and good bullet.
@agbrown111
@agbrown111 7 жыл бұрын
I have an m39 and it is awesome. I am wanting something that isn't a Mosin. You are correct though mosin does fit the bill.
@Floeh396
@Floeh396 7 жыл бұрын
Get a K31
@pennsylvaniafellow4409
@pennsylvaniafellow4409 7 жыл бұрын
Anything Yugo or Czech that happens to be bolt action.
@zacht9447
@zacht9447 7 жыл бұрын
Ishapor enfield in 308 pr a Vz48 I think it's also in 308
@yank-tc8bz
@yank-tc8bz 7 жыл бұрын
How do you load it ?
@treyriver5676
@treyriver5676 7 жыл бұрын
Same as the M1886, kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6qwZ2uPe9-Ffbs
@Pandemoniumusic
@Pandemoniumusic 7 жыл бұрын
We don't pronounce the "e" in Tulle ;-) Great vid as always!
@GuntherRommel
@GuntherRommel 7 жыл бұрын
Pandemoniumusic so it's pronounced "Tool"?
@theswissgunsmith2122
@theswissgunsmith2122 7 жыл бұрын
Almost. The French "u" that has no equivalent sound in English, and the double "l" is pronounced as dragging on it. So "Tewll" wous ble closest, I think.
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 7 жыл бұрын
It's trickier than that. It is (around here anyway) pronounced but only just. As you finish saying 'tull' you throw in a soft token ''eh' as you relax the tongue to finish 'tull'. Don't worry about it. My French club colleagues are always asking each other about what is the correct grammar and pronunciation for assorted things. The older ones revert to the local patois which is a species of Occitan and incomprehensible to most of the others.
@Sippi200
@Sippi200 7 жыл бұрын
3:43 Does anyone else see the front sight shifting its position in the video? Im very interested how this happend. Im pretty shure it has to do with the video file or sth since the rest is pretty normal in this second.
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 7 жыл бұрын
An OLD school bolt action lebel with a tube mag that holds a whopping 3 rounds. In WW2. WOW. I can't say that I would be filled with confidence in my superiors with THAT sort of armament...
@sethrich5998
@sethrich5998 7 жыл бұрын
At least the US gave rear line guys M1 Carbines.
@LeSarthois
@LeSarthois 7 жыл бұрын
The US was under no direct threat; also, you have to remember that in the 1920's and 1930's, because of WWI and the Spanish Flu, the French population was weakened, losing 4 million people, most of them men, in 4 years. Survivors of the war were not willing to go at war, and the military budget was cut to allow more spending for rebuilding and reinvigorating the economy. People wanted to forget war. Many army projects were delayed or never made, which explain why by the mid 30's the French army was equipped with obsolete tanks, had almost no planes, and still had those 8mm Lebel rifles available. Ironically the government that reacted the most and dropped much money in military was the leftist "Front Populaire" (alliance of the Socialist and Communist parties). But it was 1936 and it was too late to make enough new guns , so repurposing obsolete guns was a temporary "good" solution.
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 7 жыл бұрын
No shit it was for the rear line, I JUST WATCHED THE VIDEO. And, yet, if the rear line guys ever came under attack, they weren't being attacked by rear line guys with bolt action rifles designed in the LATE 1800s, with a tube mag whose capacity was REDUCED to all of 3 cartridges. Again, there were ground soldiers - ANY ground soldiers - in WWII that were given a late 1800s bolt action with tube mags that were reduced to 3 round capacity. To defend themselves with. Seriously.
@sethrich5998
@sethrich5998 7 жыл бұрын
I understand why France had to do that. I was just saying that even being rear line it doesn't make that a good option compared to what other rear line troops were getting. Certainly the situation in France didn't allow for anything better and they made with what they had.
@tisFrancesfault
@tisFrancesfault 7 жыл бұрын
small and light, what most rear lines cared about at the time (if you're an artilleryman in a rifle battle you're already sure you're up shit creek), and cheep, and in regards to the M1 it existed (at the time).
@stephenbritton9297
@stephenbritton9297 6 жыл бұрын
"This rifle had a repaired buttstock..." There goes the theory of only dropped once... ;)
@Elsneakakaze
@Elsneakakaze 7 жыл бұрын
Am i an idiot or is that bayonet round? Is that supposed to look like that? Does it work?
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
Cruciform. Looks like a + from the business end.
@Jeqavy_Wavy
@Jeqavy_Wavy 7 жыл бұрын
I have seen one of these.
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 7 жыл бұрын
So I have a question, did the Germans use captured stocks of French weapons such as this or did they hand them over to the Vichy?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
I have not looked into what they may have returned to Vichy forces, but the Germans did use substantial amounts of captured French arms themselves. A lot of it went to troops on the Atlantic Wall and occupation duties, where they were not expected to see combat and thus the logistics of ammunition and parts supply were not all that important.
@jodc2760
@jodc2760 7 жыл бұрын
+Hunter Smith. I guess they didn't. The Germans wanted a Vichy state with a very weak army. The Milice (fascist paramilitary organisation) was equipped as bad as the french resistance.
@jamesjross
@jamesjross 7 жыл бұрын
I have so much respect for that dropped once t-shirt. How many french soldier were lost in both wars?
@recon7580
@recon7580 7 жыл бұрын
WW1: 1,4 million, WW2: 220k
@jamesjross
@jamesjross 7 жыл бұрын
I realise I could have searched it. Thanks Napoleon.
@oOkenzoOo
@oOkenzoOo 7 жыл бұрын
WW1 = around 1.4 Million killed (military alone), >1.7 Million killed (+ the civilians), 4.266 Million wounded WW2 = between 210 and 220 K killed (military alone), around 600 K killed (+ the civilians), 390 K wounded (also, it's estimated there are between 1 and 2 Million civilians dead in Indochina due to the Japanese occupation)
@juanmanuelmarchioli
@juanmanuelmarchioli 7 жыл бұрын
Today in War Thunder the French tanks arrive in game... now i found this... ¿Cosmic conextion? May be Gun Jesus have a wird plan for all of us??? I dont know... mon petits... i must go to find a bagette... i think this video have a subliminal message... Vive le france! sorry... :-D
@williamprince1114
@williamprince1114 7 жыл бұрын
My first guess as to purpose was police carbine or similar civil service agency like forest ranger or postal service. Was there a Lebel or Berthier developed for the civil service?
@LeSarthois
@LeSarthois 7 жыл бұрын
French civil services aren't armed, aside from the Police Nationale. Even municipal police isn't armed, and those days it's a hot topic - although most people would fear the bunch of simpleton they hire to carry a gun :) Only a few municipalities have the proper budget to buy weapons and maintain them trained anyway. Forest services can be seen with guns, but it's their own personnal gun, their personal licence, as wildlife regulation is made in accordance with local hunter. Makes everyone happy.
@Hidalguense
@Hidalguense 7 жыл бұрын
Are French rifle expensive? I want one because of Ian.
@BillehBobJoe
@BillehBobJoe 7 жыл бұрын
el hidalguense. Very expensive, if you *really* want a french bolt action maybe a MAS 36 is your only choice without spending your life savings
@Hidalguense
@Hidalguense 7 жыл бұрын
toomanyaccounts thanks for your reply. Good day
@BillehBobJoe
@BillehBobJoe 7 жыл бұрын
My Apologies, my line of answering was in regards to the lebel, because that IS a very expensive gun
@Hidalguense
@Hidalguense 7 жыл бұрын
toomanyaccounts I want a French rifle ,that is reliable and good price, any suggestions. Thanks
@Tripp426
@Tripp426 6 жыл бұрын
Oh the French factory is called Tulle. I thought you were saying Tula. I was thinking "What the hell? A Russian factory making French guns?"
@WeakendVermin7
@WeakendVermin7 7 жыл бұрын
I just kept thinking about a gt-r every time Ian said r-35 😂😂😂
@nimbly1693
@nimbly1693 7 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! I am wondering if combine, concubine, recombine, turbine, and Columbine, are pronounced bine like vine, why is carbine pronounced car-bean?
@sethrich5998
@sethrich5998 7 жыл бұрын
Nimbly Because it's originally from a French word, and therefore pronounced differently. He has an entire video on pronunciation of that word if you want more of an explanation.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
Ravine, machine, cuisine, pristine, marine, tangerine.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJiVl4Z6Z7ufa5o
@jojuca92
@jojuca92 4 жыл бұрын
AAAWWW, it's so cute ! look at this chubby little thing.
@RobFeldkamp
@RobFeldkamp 7 жыл бұрын
is tit me or should you not pronounce the L in Tulle? like in Marseille?
@MrBlindcat1
@MrBlindcat1 7 жыл бұрын
Nice cold fam.
@Jeff-lf4yr
@Jeff-lf4yr 7 жыл бұрын
Is the bolt action system the most produced gun in the world? or would that be ak47. I really wish to know.
@stephenbinion6348
@stephenbinion6348 7 жыл бұрын
dank memes which bolt action?
@Bladsmith
@Bladsmith 7 жыл бұрын
Dude. That's like asking whether the most produced vehicle in the world is a car or an F-150. :I
@MikeBaxterABC
@MikeBaxterABC 7 жыл бұрын
Dank Memes ... If your question is meant as posted ... I would say yes, the volume of ALL versions of bolt action rifles manufactured combined would outnumber the production of AK-47 style rifles.
@sethrich5998
@sethrich5998 7 жыл бұрын
That's a weird question for several reasons. Comparing an operating system type to a specific model. And what you mean by "most" is ambiguous. Most total numbers produced? Most different variants?
@pitschmit4583
@pitschmit4583 7 жыл бұрын
VIVE LA FRANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell me yo found a MAS 38/39 or a MAS 40!!!! If you found one, your my new God!!!!
@pitschmit4583
@pitschmit4583 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry...... But for a french guy, i promise, i'm good....;
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I have not. Yet...
@pitschmit4583
@pitschmit4583 7 жыл бұрын
If you find one, your lucky. I think only 60were made, so it's hard to find one.
@pitschmit4583
@pitschmit4583 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@pitschmit4583
@pitschmit4583 7 жыл бұрын
Mas 38/39 and Ma 40were semi automatic rifles. They were produce after WW2 as MAS 44 and Mas49
@costantinoandruzzi2219
@costantinoandruzzi2219 7 жыл бұрын
Only 3 rounds?! A pistol was much better than this, IMHO.
@costantinoandruzzi2219
@costantinoandruzzi2219 7 жыл бұрын
I agree on the armor-piercing argument. As to maximum firing range, I don't think the R35 carbine could reach that far!
@Ensign_Cthulhu
@Ensign_Cthulhu 7 жыл бұрын
It will reach; it just won't reach with anything resembling accuracy or consistency unless the area you're trying to hit is the size of a football field. And to be fair, rifle sights out past a thousand yards or so weren't really meant for anything except mass volley or area fire anyway.
@bowmen08
@bowmen08 7 жыл бұрын
Pistol would have much less stopping power, and effective range with them, if memory serves, is usually around 25-50 metres. Especially if you consider that we're talking French who were using .32 ACP guns and 7.65 Longue, which was similar. A carbine like this would allow you to legitimately engage something 100-200 metres away and hurt it plenty if you do hit.
@costantinoandruzzi2219
@costantinoandruzzi2219 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, I know, but I was just being ironic about the hilariously low capacity of the R35 tube magazine as opposed to a sidearm, be it a pistol or even a revolver...
@royperkins3851
@royperkins3851 7 жыл бұрын
Costantino Andruzzi not if your being shot at by a rifleman ,a pistol is as useful as a rock in combat except in house clearing ! Even then I'd prefer a smg!
@BluestedSRT4
@BluestedSRT4 7 жыл бұрын
La arme à feu Jésus
@tomp905
@tomp905 7 жыл бұрын
BluestedSRT4 l'arme a feu de jesus
@Sam-gz7om
@Sam-gz7om 7 жыл бұрын
If you meant Gun Jesus the translation you're looking for is "Le Jésus des armes"
@dsfs17987
@dsfs17987 7 жыл бұрын
6 not amused French viewers so far for this video...
@marks_sparks1
@marks_sparks1 7 жыл бұрын
jz1199 whose to say the dislikers are French??? Ian is displaying their arms history without bias and indeed some respect to their efforts.
@dsfs17987
@dsfs17987 7 жыл бұрын
marksandsparks1 you do know what the "only dropped once" is all about, right?
@MrSebfrench76
@MrSebfrench76 7 жыл бұрын
Just like you , obviously. You made yourself a bit ridiculous there.
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